So, I'm thinking of getting a dog but my lifestyle (working 10-12 hours per day) means I may not have enough time for him and would hate to make him suffer. Are there any races of dogs that can stay at the apartment alone for extended periods of time like that without going all sad, depressed and angry?
The feline kind.
Maybe if you worked harder and didn't post on Languish so much you could do your job in eight hours or less a day.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 26, 2011, 04:55:21 PM
Maybe if you worked harder and didn't post on Languish so much you could do your job in eight hours or less a day.
Just because he's posting on Languish doesn't mean he's not billing someone. :hmm:
Why not adopt a South East Asian baby instead? Have to get in on the fad whilst it lasts.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 26, 2011, 05:03:57 PM
Why not adopt a South East Asian baby instead? Have to get in on the fad whilst it lasts.
He could set up a shoe manufacturing business at home.
Any dog that is well-trained. However, I would exclude Labradors, Retrievers, Setters, Spaniels, etc. Pit Bulls are a good choice.
It would make more sense to look around for dog walkers. Very common in NYC.
Very yuppie. You could brag to people about it.
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
Quote from: Barrister on September 26, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
The feline kind.
This. Dogs can't handle that much time alone.
Quote from: ulmont on September 26, 2011, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on September 26, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
The feline kind.
This. Dogs can't handle that much time alone.
Not always true. Cats can get lonely too (especially Siamese).
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
Yeah, my sis did this. Got a big black lab, tore the shit out of her place. I don't think she's every paid for the damages. She finally gave the dog away when she found that it growled at her daughter. I was proud of her for doing that.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
Agreed. Get two cats - sisters or mother and daughter work - or one can get lonely if you're having it as a house cat.
My families had a number of dogs (admittedly mostly border collies) and I don't think any of them could be left alone for that long. It's just cruel.
Edit: Incidentally on the cat front go to a home and get a pair of old dears. We used to have a (very) elderly mother and daughter pair (the daughter, sadly, was albino, blind, deaf and forgetful). They're good housepets for small flats and you're doing something good giving a nice home to them - plus they're far, far less likely to leave dead vermin around the house.
And anyway, this is Martinus we're talking about...anything bigger than a Chihuahua is too non-gay.
What is this, Marti's search for a topic where he cant get something wrong?
Seriously though, Marty shouldn't get any pet. He'll quickly tire of it and the animal will likely suffer.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 26, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
It would make more sense to look around for dog walkers. Very common in NYC.
Very yuppie. You could brag to people about it.
I was wrong - I now see where Marti was going with this.
Quote from: Martinus on September 26, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
Are there any races of dogs that can stay at the apartment alone for extended periods of time like that without going all sad, depressed and angry?
Big dogs.
Actually, rescued greyhounds are known to be good apartment/condo dogs; larger bowels and bladders as a larger dog, but former racing greyhounds (after 3 or so years of service) are used to long, extended down times in cages between bouts of exercise, and the requisite good temperment and patience that needed in that environment that isn't subject to abandonment issues.
But for you, I'd skip it. As a fag, you're too selfish to care for another living creature.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2011, 06:07:34 PM
But for you, I'd skip it. As a fag, you're too selfish to care for another living creature.
Bingo. It's not a gay thing, my brother is very good with animals and keeps two dogs. Marty is self centered though. He's probably getting a dog to impress one his boyfriends or something. It's not like a bike where you can get it, glow in the admiration of your lover, and then put it away. It's a living creature. I wouldn't trust Marty with a goldfish.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 26, 2011, 06:11:21 PM
He's probably getting a dog to impress one his boyfriends or something.
No, Marty's just figured out that the only thing that gets more attention at the cafe than being seen using an Apple(tm) product is being seen using an Apple(tm) product with a dog tied to the table leg.
QuoteI wouldn't trust Marty with a goldfish.
Amen. That's one dead ass goldfish.
We've left our dog alone for up to about 12 hours before, and he seemed ok with it. I mean, I'm sure he doesn't like it, but he didn't go nuts or shit all over the place or anything. He just slept in his crate. He's allegedly half-Boxer and half-other stuff (supposedly German Shepherd and Labrador).
The late Brodie and current Louis Anton had/have an Adventure Dog person, she takes dogs in her van to the Senator Warren Magnuson State Park.
The Park has a huge off leash area, and the gaggle of Fidos get to run wild for two hours. Solved the 11-12 hour thing nicely.
Quote from: Martinus on September 26, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
So, I'm thinking of getting a dog but my lifestyle (working 10-12 hours per day) means I may not have enough time for him and would hate to make him suffer. Are there any races of dogs that can stay at the apartment alone for extended periods of time like that without going all sad, depressed and angry?
Get an English Mastiff
Dogs don't have a sense of time.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 26, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
Dogs don't have a sense of time.
Their bladders do.
Dogs don't like to lie where they have shit & pee. Put them in a small enough cage & they'll hold it as long as possible.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 26, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
Dogs don't have a sense of time.
Their bladders do.
Dogs don't like to lie where they have shit & pee. Put them in a small enough cage & they'll hold it as long as possible.
Real humanitarian.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 26, 2011, 08:45:43 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 26, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
Dogs don't have a sense of time.
Their bladders do.
Dogs don't like to lie where they have shit & pee. Put them in a small enough cage & they'll hold it as long as possible.
Real humanitarian.
Thats what any animal trainer will do.
If you keep them in too large a space, they'll designate a part of it as the bathroom. If it's a crate the right size for them (big enough to stand, but not big enough to walk around) they won't.
Of course you have to give them lots of attention and exercise afterwards.
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 26, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 26, 2011, 08:02:00 PM
Dogs don't have a sense of time.
Their bladders do.
Dogs don't like to lie where they have shit & pee. Put them in a small enough cage & they'll hold it as long as possible.
Never have to do this if you know how to train a dog.
I`d have to say a cat would be more fitting for your lifestyle. Or a set of guinea pigs.
Leaving a dog alone so long sucks. I`ve done it on very rare occasions with mine and she generally isn`t very happy about it, and is dying for the loo.
Well, other people told me about cats, too, but I kinda dislike cats. I was thinking of something small like a cocker spaniel etc. But I guess it wouldn't work. :(
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 26, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
It would make more sense to look around for dog walkers. Very common in NYC.
Very yuppie. You could brag to people about it.
I was wrong - I now see where Marti was going with this.
Seriously, I am not as shallow to want a dog as a fashion accessory. :rolleyes:
When I was growing up, we always had a dog or two (my parents own a big house with a garden so that was never an issue), and I miss having a dog waiting for me at home when I get back in the evening.
I guess I could like a cat, but they always feel like a poor substitute for a dog to me.
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2011, 01:42:55 AM
Seriously, I am not as shallow to want a dog as a fashion accessory. :rolleyes:
Yes, you are.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
Yes. You can buy a rare kind of cat and show it off to people.
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2011, 01:42:55 AM
Quote from: crazy canuck on September 26, 2011, 06:05:04 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 26, 2011, 05:31:59 PM
It would make more sense to look around for dog walkers. Very common in NYC.
Very yuppie. You could brag to people about it.
I was wrong - I now see where Marti was going with this.
I guess I could like a cat, but they always feel like a poor substitute for a dog to me.
Agree with you there
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
I agree with the Gaul. Also leaving the dog alone for 10-12 hours each day is animal cruelty. Especially in an apartment.
Quote from: Octavian on September 27, 2011, 03:24:34 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 26, 2011, 05:43:41 PM
Get a cat. Dogs and appartments don't mix.
I agree with the Gaul. Also leaving the dog alone for 10-12 hours each day is animal cruelty. Especially in an apartment.
On the other hand, it would have to spend the other half of the day with Marty.
Quote from: Martinus on September 27, 2011, 01:42:55 AM
Seriously, I am not as shallow to want a dog as a fashion accessory. :rolleyes:
Yeah, you are.
Get fish. They're pretty and gay friendly.
Seriously do not get a dog or even a cat with the amount of time you're about every day. It's cruel. Two cats at a pinch to keep each other company, but if you don't like them meh.
Don't forget to add in long walks before and after work which will be in the dark and probably snow before too long. Besides, you don't seem like the type to want to clean up poop, whether in a litter tray, on the pavement or on your bed.
I time my departure in the morning to catch the girl across the way walking her dog about 15 minutes before she goes to work.
Don't know her name or anything, but she has a totally bumping body. Wears those tapered, tight blouse type tops with slacks for work. Yummy.
A buddy of my wife's, who owns a rather large house, used to own as pets a colony of gerbils. They had the second floor.
Eventually, he imported a Thai wife, and the gerbils vanished.
Quote from: Martinus on September 26, 2011, 04:44:44 PM
So, I'm thinking of getting a dog but my lifestyle (working 10-12 hours per day) means I may not have enough time for him and would hate to make him suffer. Are there any races of dogs that can stay at the apartment alone for extended periods of time like that without going all sad, depressed and angry?
Nice you are thinking this through.
I think it is a terrible idea. Dogs are a very high maintenance pet and not suited for the gay lawyer about town.
Quote from: Brazen on September 27, 2011, 05:26:54 AM
Get fish. They're pretty and gay friendly.
There are pets who are gay unfriendly? A homophobic parrot or something?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 27, 2011, 05:30:29 AM
I time my departure in the morning to catch the girl across the way walking her dog about 15 minutes before she goes to work.
Don't know her name or anything, but she has a totally bumping body. Wears those tapered, tight blouse type tops with slacks for work. Yummy.
God damn it Seedy. She's an animal, you are an aminal lover. You need to get some Animal love with her!
Quote from: Valmy on September 27, 2011, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: Brazen on September 27, 2011, 05:26:54 AM
Get fish. They're pretty and gay friendly.
There are pets who are gay unfriendly? A homophobic parrot or something?
Tits and pussy.
Quote from: Valmy on September 27, 2011, 07:52:06 AM
Quote from: Brazen on September 27, 2011, 05:26:54 AM
Get fish. They're pretty and gay friendly.
There are pets who are gay unfriendly? A homophobic parrot or something?
AWK! Matthew Shepard is in Hell! AWWWWK!
Quote from: Barrister on September 26, 2011, 04:49:49 PM
The feline kind.
Bad idea. Haven't you seen Trainspotting?
Quote from: Malthus on September 27, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
A buddy of my wife's, who owns a rather large house, used to own as pets a colony of gerbils. They had the second floor.
Eventually, he imported a Thai wife, and the gerbils vanished.
Did she eat them?
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 27, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
A buddy of my wife's, who owns a rather large house, used to own as pets a colony of gerbils. They had the second floor.
Eventually, he imported a Thai wife, and the gerbils vanished.
Did she eat them?
:D
No. I think that once he obtained a wife, the emotional benefits of having a tribe of gerbils living in your second floor ensuite ment less to him.
Of course, the fact that he had said tribe could explain why he had to import a wife ...
Caring for a colony of animals is a noble calling.
Like, you call it a "zoo" and charge admission, and you're a regular working joe. You do it because it's a fun hobby and you like animals and don't wish to see them endangered in their natural state and you're an eccentric, at best. People are just fucked up in their mores.
On the other hand, gerbils are nasty little beasts.
My brother had gerbils. Turns out the little buggers are cannibals. Also the family dog killed one of them (simply by putting a paw on one. I have Gerbil must have had a heart attack or something when it happened). I don't recall what happened to the rest of them. Hated the little critters. They stunk.
Yeah Marty, dogs are pretty high maintenance.
Getting a puppy and leaving it at home for 10-12 hours a day will definitely mess it, and your home, up. Now, if your office allows you to bring the dog with you, if you arrange doggie day care or a dog walker when you're away it's doable. But it will still take up a lot of your time and attention.
The unconditional affection is pretty nice though.
I'd suggest reading a few books on how to raise a dog before making the decision. To give you some ideas about the effort and kind of problems you're likely to encounter.
If you do decide to get a dog, I'd also like to suggest that you consider getting a rescue dog instead of a breeder dog.
Quote from: Jacob on September 27, 2011, 01:05:12 PM
getting a rescue dog instead of a breeder dog.
S.O.P.
Quote from: Jacob on September 27, 2011, 01:05:12 PM
Now, if your office allows you to bring the dog with you
:blink:
QuoteIf you do decide to get a dog, I'd also like to suggest that you consider getting a rescue dog instead of a breeder dog.
Agree. Cheaper and far, far less likely to have a ton of inbreeding-related health problems. If you insist on getting a purebred dog, it WILL be inbred.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 27, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
A buddy of my wife's, who owns a rather large house, used to own as pets a colony of gerbils. They had the second floor.
Eventually, he imported a Thai wife, and the gerbils vanished.
Did she eat them?
Better yet, shot them out her pussy.
I would like to avoid getting a breeder dog. I'd prefer a fabulously gay dog instead.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 27, 2011, 08:34:23 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 27, 2011, 12:19:04 PM
Quote from: Malthus on September 27, 2011, 07:40:03 AM
A buddy of my wife's, who owns a rather large house, used to own as pets a colony of gerbils. They had the second floor.
Eventually, he imported a Thai wife, and the gerbils vanished.
Did she eat them?
Better yet, shot them out her pussy.
:lol: