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Title: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: mongers on July 24, 2011, 12:31:58 PM
Thread rule, post a wacky conspiracy theory you've come across and the next poster has to 'top' that with something more bizarre.

Never heard of this before, until I found out about it yesterday, I give you, the Chemtrail conspiracy theory:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory)

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The chemtrail conspiracy theory holds that some trails left by aircraft are actually chemical or biological agents deliberately sprayed at high altitudes for a purpose undisclosed to the general public in clandestine programs directed by government officials.[1]

http://aircrap.org/world-chemtrail-awareness-day-january-22-2011/33385/ (http://aircrap.org/world-chemtrail-awareness-day-january-22-2011/33385/)

Seems some scientologists are into this as well:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/jun/23/chemtrailsbeckisbackbutis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2008/jun/23/chemtrailsbeckisbackbutis)
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Do we have to have come across them, or can they be of our own devicing?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: mongers on July 24, 2011, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Do we have to have come across them, or can they be of our own devicing?  :hmm:

You win, thread locked.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 24, 2011, 12:47:52 PM
British government released giant maneating badgers to devour Iraqis.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6295138.stm
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 24, 2011, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Do we have to have come across them, or can they be of our own devicing?  :hmm:

You win, thread locked.

But you haven't even read my manifesto.  :(
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: JonasSalk on July 24, 2011, 01:13:07 PM
Chemtrails are real. They dramatically increase the number of people who think they are chemtrails.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Josquius on July 25, 2011, 04:03:01 AM
The chemtrail one is pretty established. I've a friend believes it.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: CountDeMoney on July 25, 2011, 04:21:19 AM
Quote from: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:52:03 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 24, 2011, 12:36:48 PM
Quote from: Slargos on July 24, 2011, 12:34:12 PM
Do we have to have come across them, or can they be of our own devicing?  :hmm:

You win, thread locked.

But you haven't even read my manifesto.  :(

We read it. Every fucking day.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 04:39:04 AM
I think that one comes from a misunderstanding that it works as a bug poison, apparently stemming from a Hoax (something I came across while looking for ways to kill ants).

I don't know if your tops man eating badgers, but I'll do a better one.  The Queen of England (along with many other people), are blood drinking lizard people from another dimension.  And yes, people actually believe that.  They are centered around David Icke, who as far as I can tell is having severe delusions.

I know of a lot of these.  I know of some really, really weird ones.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Viking on July 25, 2011, 04:57:24 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.

:hug:

http://www.yrad.com/cs/

This is the conspiracy theory podcast which is a weekly (usually) podcast that has one guest with which the host discusses a conspiracy theory. Pretty good.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 05:14:14 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 04:39:04 AM
I think that one comes from a misunderstanding that it works as a bug poison, apparently stemming from a Hoax (something I came across while looking for ways to kill ants).

The really cool thing would be is, if it's true, I'd be the one to prove it, and I'd have a massive lawsuit on my hands.

I came across it because something (probably different somethings) in Pepsi Ones and Coke Zeroes does, in fact, make me kind of sick.

QuoteI don't know if your tops man eating badgers, but I'll do a better one.  The Queen of England (along with many other people), are blood drinking lizard people from another dimension.  And yes, people actually believe that.  They are centered around David Icke, who as far as I can tell is having severe delusions.

I know of a lot of these.  I know of some really, really weird ones.

I'm familiar with the Lizard People stuff from old.  It's like someone realized that anti-Semitism was bad, Jews were just regular folks, and shit like the Holocaust (assuming you don't deny it happened) sort of stands as irrefutable evidence that Jews haven't historically control anything well enough to keep six million of them from being killed, but they still needed a shadowy conspiracy of inhuman monsters to justify their crap lives and paranoia.  And then some of them forgot the point of the whole exercise, and just started saying Jews are reptile people.

If they really did just want to drink human blood, I'm pretty sure it would be preposterously easier to just buy it than control a shitty planet like Earth.  I have the same complaint about vampires.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2011, 05:38:59 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.
Dude, do you have any fucking teeth left?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
One of the more famous ones (In America) would have to be McCarthyism.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: The Brain on July 25, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
One of the more famous ones (In America) would have to be McCarthyism.

:rolleyes: It did actually exist you know.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: grumbler on July 25, 2011, 10:49:34 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 25, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
One of the more famous ones (In America) would have to be McCarthyism.
:rolleyes: It did actually exist you know.
Can you prove it, without relying on suspect historical materials?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Grey Fox on July 25, 2011, 10:51:55 AM
The Apollo program was abandoned because when 11 landed, Aliens informed Nixon that the moon was offlimit & should not return there.

He was allowed 6 more landing tho. Which should be credited to his surprisingly awesome negotiation skills.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:54:08 AM
Quote from: The Brain on July 25, 2011, 10:17:15 AM
Quote from: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
One of the more famous ones (In America) would have to be McCarthyism.

:rolleyes: It did actually exist you know.
Riiiiight riiiight.  :shutup:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
What about the one where there is a race of robotic dwarves who live in the center of the Earth and kidnap women to rape and torture them.  This one is not clear how many actually believed it (since it was originally couched in fiction), but the author certainly did and there's evidence that others did as well.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Admiral Yi on July 25, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2011, 05:38:59 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.
Dude, do you have any fucking teeth left?

Why would a person lose their teeth from drinking diet soda? :huh:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 02:05:50 PM
Quote from: Zeus on July 25, 2011, 10:15:14 AM
One of the more famous ones (In America) would have to be McCarthyism.

This is somewhat forgotten today.  The thrust of McCarthy's (and other Republicans) arguments at the time was not just that the government had communists in it.  That the communists in the State Department somehow caused China to go communist, which is of course absurd.  This was largely a populist argument to win the election of 1950 ( which was successful).  It quickly spiraled out of control to the point where partisans were attacking the army and even accusing Eisenhower of being a communist, at that point it Republicans moved to put a stop to it.  I think it should be seen as a manifestation of Conservative populism that seems to creep up every so often.  Today it's the Tea Party, in the 1990's it was the Militia Movement etc.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 25, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2011, 05:38:59 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.
Dude, do you have any fucking teeth left?

Why would a person lose their teeth from drinking diet soda? :huh:

Lizard People.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Malthus on July 25, 2011, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 25, 2011, 01:58:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on July 25, 2011, 05:38:59 AM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:29:58 AM
Those people who think aspartame kills you.  Why aren't I dead, dudes?

I mean, I've got my problems, but if aspartame is as poisonous as some people think I'm betting 12-20 diet sodas a day for ten years probably would leave a more marked effect than a caffeine addiction.
Dude, do you have any fucking teeth left?

Why would a person lose their teeth from drinking diet soda? :huh:

Curb-stomped by angry milk retailors?  :hmm:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Josquius on July 25, 2011, 03:36:03 PM
Bildeberg- did you know that people who attend that meeting then become powerful?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
What about the one where there is a race of robotic dwarves who live in the center of the Earth and kidnap women to rape and torture them.  This one is not clear how many actually believed it (since it was originally couched in fiction), but the author certainly did and there's evidence that others did as well.

Where did the robotic dwarves come from? :unsure:  Thetans?
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Tonitrus on July 25, 2011, 04:53:42 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
What about the one where there is a race of robotic dwarves who live in the center of the Earth and kidnap women to rape and torture them.  This one is not clear how many actually believed it (since it was originally couched in fiction), but the author certainly did and there's evidence that others did as well.

You clearly got the conspiricy wrong.  The Sasquatches live towards the center of the Earth, not robot dwarves.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
What about the one where there is a race of robotic dwarves who live in the center of the Earth and kidnap women to rape and torture them.  This one is not clear how many actually believed it (since it was originally couched in fiction), but the author certainly did and there's evidence that others did as well.

Where did the robotic dwarves come from? :unsure:  Thetans?

Dero, DEtrimental Robots.  Weird bullshit back in the 1940's.  Was published in the pulps, with claims that it is true.  It was moderately popular for a while.  It turned out the author was a mental patient and his stuff was rewritten by the  publisher.  It's not clear if publisher believed or disbelieved it.

Another one is that Wilhelm Reich was being persecuted by the Government because of his findings.  Reich had been a respected psychologist and student of Freud.  As he got older his work became stranger and stranger, to the point where he thought he could channel sexual energy to create clouds.  Or destroy clouds, I forgot.  UFO eventually got involved.
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Camerus on July 25, 2011, 08:06:23 PM
Now I feel better about my 2-3 diet sodas a day.   :huh:
Title: Re: Conspiracy Theory Poker - I'll See Yours And Raise This One.
Post by: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 08:12:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 08:06:19 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on July 25, 2011, 04:08:18 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on July 25, 2011, 01:31:55 PM
What about the one where there is a race of robotic dwarves who live in the center of the Earth and kidnap women to rape and torture them.  This one is not clear how many actually believed it (since it was originally couched in fiction), but the author certainly did and there's evidence that others did as well.

Where did the robotic dwarves come from? :unsure:  Thetans?

Dero, DEtrimental Robots.  Weird bullshit back in the 1940's.  Was published in the pulps, with claims that it is true.  It was moderately popular for a while.  It turned out the author was a mental patient and his stuff was rewritten by the  publisher.  It's not clear if publisher believed or disbelieved it.

Another one is that Wilhelm Reich was being persecuted by the Government because of his findings.  Reich had been a respected psychologist and student of Freud.  As he got older his work became stranger and stranger, to the point where he thought he could channel sexual energy to create clouds.  Or destroy clouds, I forgot.  UFO eventually got involved.

Orgone is real, dude.  I use it to power my alternative fuel vehicle.