Quote
US minorities becoming the majority, census suggests
Preliminary data shows non-Hispanic white babies now make up the minority of those born in America for first time
Non-Hispanic white children now make up the minority of babies born in the US for the first time, according to latest census estimates, highlighting demographic changes that could reshape US government policy.
Preliminary census estimates also show the share of African-American households headed by women – comprised mostly single mothers – now exceeds African-American households with married couples.
The findings offer a preview of final 2010 census results, released this summer, that provide detailed household breakdowns by age, race and relationship.
Demographers say the numbers provide the clearest indication yet that non-white minority groups will become the majority in the US by the middle of the century.
Currently non-Hispanic white children make up just under half of all three-year-olds in the US, the youngest age group shown. In 1990 the proportion was more than 60%.
Demographer William Frey from the Brookings Institution, which analysed the data, said the data released so far suggested minorities already outnumber whites among babies under two.
By contrast non-Hispanic white people make up the vast majority of older Americans – 80% of the over 65s and 73% of those between 45 and 64.
"The recent emergence of this cultural generation gap in states with fast growth of young Hispanics has spurred heated discussions around immigration and the use of government services," Frey said. "But the new census makes plain that our future labour force is absolutely dependent on our ability to integrate and educate a new diverse child population."
Kenneth Johnson, a sociology professor and senior demographer at the University of New Hampshire, noted much of the change is being driven by increases in younger Hispanic women having more children than non-Hispanic white women.
The census figures come amid heated debate on a number of controversial issues including immigration, gay marriage and the rising cost of welfare benefits.
Alabama became the latest state this month to pass a wide-ranging anti-immigration law which requires schools to report their students' immigration status to the authorities. This follows tough immigration measures passed in similarly Republican-leaning states such as Georgia, Arizona and South Carolina.
But Massachusetts, New York and Illinois have all opted out of a federal plan to deport criminals who are not US citizens, saying it has made illegal immigrants afraid of reporting crimes to police. California may also opt out.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/23/us-minorities-becoming-majority-census (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jun/23/us-minorities-becoming-majority-census)
There's probably some grant you can apply for now.
Worried about Iran or NK having The Bomb? You should start worrying more about what happens when Cholos start running the show in the US.
Hispanic is a bullshit ethnic category.
When did nonAnglo-Saxon whites pass Anglo-Saxons? Nobody knows and nobody cares, it doesn't matter.
Great, a self-hating Hispanic. You're a walking cliché, Tim.
He wants to be white.
Not in my house.
Quote from: The Brain on June 24, 2011, 04:12:28 AM
Great, a self-hating Hispanic. You're a walking cliché, Tim.
Can't hate something that doesn't exist.
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on June 24, 2011, 07:17:34 AM
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
I figure about 90% of them are 20% white.
They're generally not white, black and native blood excluding even. Even in Britain there has traditionally been a distinction between light, white Europeans and dark, latin ones.
Sorry, Timmay. When you're a mix between Latin European, negro and amerind, you don't qualify as white.
"Hispanic White" is a contradiction in terms.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on June 24, 2011, 07:17:34 AM
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
I don't know. Italians don't necessarily look whiter than many "non white" hispanics, but we consider them white in this country. In Latin America there are a lot of people that look european, and are probably mostly if not completely of european descent, but those tend not to be the people that immigrate. There has also been a lot of south european immigration to latin america, which can skew appearances. I suspect a spanish speaking italian would be considered hispanic much of the time.
This is not something I really give a damn about.
Much as I dislike for Tim to get off the hook, the answer is obviously to declare the lighter skinned Hispanics white; much like was done for Italians, Jews, Irish and various Slavs before them.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 07:53:10 AM
I don't know. Italians don't necessarily look whiter than many "non white" hispanics, but we consider them white in this country.
Italians have much the same range as Spaniards. But Spanish settlement in some parts of Latin America was a drop in the bucket next to the indigenous population.
Quote from: Jacob on June 24, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
Much as I dislike for Tim to get off the hook, the answer is obviously to declare the lighter skinned Hispanics white; much like was done for Italians, Jews, Irish and various Slavs before them.
Caucasian Hispanics are part of the elite in their native countries, though. They are not likely to make up a major part of Latino immigrants.
The overwhelming majority of our Latinoamerican immigrants have distinct Amerindian features. The exception are those from Argentina who came during their last crisis and have markedly better education and jobs.
Quote from: Iormlund on June 24, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
Caucasian Hispanics are part of the elite in their native countries, though. They are not likely to make up a major part of Latino immigrants.
The overwhelming majority of our Latinoamerican immigrants have distinct Amerindian features. The exception are those from Argentina who came during their last crisis and have markedly better education and jobs.
When Obama appointed a hispanic to the Supreme Court, the Republicans through a fit about her being described as the first hispanic on the court, because in the early 1900s some Republican apparently appointed a guy with Spanish heritage (he came to the US by way of the Netherlands or somewhere). I assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
There were a lot of Italian immigrants to the US that came by way of Argentina. I wonder if their descendants could qualify as hispanic?
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 10:44:58 AMI assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
The thought of claiming an ancestry is quite alien to me. Would that grant me any material advantages?
Quote from: Iormlund on June 24, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 10:44:58 AMI assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
The thought of claiming an ancestry is quite alien to me. Would that grant me any material advantages?
I don't know all the ins and outs, but probably not. You could possibly benefit from affirmative action programs, but unless you are applying to a college or selling services to the government from a business you own, I doubt it would help you.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 24, 2011, 03:59:11 AM
Hispanic is a bullshit ethnic category.
When did nonAnglo-Saxon whites pass Anglo-Saxons? Nobody knows and nobody cares, it doesn't matter.
About 1910.
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on June 24, 2011, 07:17:34 AM
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
Cameron Diaz. Martin Sheen. Christina Aguilara.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 10:44:58 AM
When Obama appointed a hispanic to the Supreme Court, the Republicans through a fit about her being described as the first hispanic on the court, because in the early 1900s some Republican apparently appointed a guy with Spanish heritage (he came to the US by way of the Netherlands or somewhere). I assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
I don't remember any controvery about it, but are you talking about Cardozo?
Speaking of Cardozo's Spanish heritage, did Siege steal his own sunglasses? :cool:
Quote from: Brazen on June 24, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
There's probably some grant you can apply for now.
Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?
Quote from: Zoupa on June 24, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
Quote from: Brazen on June 24, 2011, 03:18:35 AM
There's probably some grant you can apply for now.
Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?
Talk to Dorsey.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 24, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?
Here are some I found:
United Negro College Fund
Hispanic College Fund
Bureau of Indian Affairs
American Indian College Fund
Source: http://www.collegescholarships.org/grants/minority.htm
Example criteria of the Marriott Scholars Program, from the HCF page:
Quote
- Be of Hispanic/Latino heritage
- Be U.S. citizen or permanent resident residing in the United States or Puerto Rico
- Be an upcoming freshman or sophomore for the 2011-2012 school year
- Plan to enroll as a full-time undergraduate student during the 2011-2012 school year in a hospitality management or culinary program.
- Plan to pursue a degree within the hospitality management, hotel management, culinary, or food beverage field.
- Have a cumulative grade point average of 3.0 or better on a 4.0 scale.
Quote from: Iormlund on June 24, 2011, 10:35:00 AM
Caucasian Hispanics are part of the elite in their native countries, though. They are not likely to make up a major part of Latino immigrants.
Except for those countries where the elites were/are the immigrants. Cuba for sure, and maybe Venezuela.
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 11:09:34 AMselling services to the government from a business you own
There is a significant benefit for winning government contracts. So much so that pretty much all the contractors I encounter try to find ways to become minority-owned businesses or veteran-owned or something. Anything that they can put on a business card.
Quote from: dps on June 24, 2011, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on June 24, 2011, 07:17:34 AM
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
Cameron Diaz. Martin Sheen. Christina Aguilara.
:hmm:
Quote from: Jacob on June 24, 2011, 10:16:54 AM
Much as I dislike for Tim to get off the hook, the answer is obviously to declare the lighter skinned Hispanics white; much like was done for Italians, Jews, Irish and various Slavs before them.
Sure, although the overwhelming majority of people in those groups you listed have Caucasian skin tones and features, which certainly makes deeming them "white" easier than peoples who are obviously Mestizos (which the vast majority of Hispanic immigrants are), etc. But that may well come to pass, as you say.
Anyhow, I am not too concerned with people's skin colour, but culture is important. Will such a large influx of immigrants be willing to carry on the values of democracy, personal liberties, etc. Luckily, North American history seems to suggest it won't be a problem with integrating large swathes of people of different cultures. Hell, I've seen for myself how children of non-white immigrants born in Toronto (where a sizeable majority of the population are immigrants) seem to have almost no difficulty in becoming Canadianized and adopting Canadian values. So, over all, it is probably a non-issue.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 24, 2011, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 11:09:34 AMselling services to the government from a business you own
There is a significant benefit for winning government contracts. So much so that pretty much all the contractors I encounter try to find ways to become minority-owned businesses or veteran-owned or something. Anything that they can put on a business card.
It's a common ploy for contractors to take a person with a Spanish surname as a business partner in order to qualify as a minority business in order to get some of the set-asides.
Quote from: Iormlund on June 24, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 10:44:58 AMI assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
The thought of claiming an ancestry is quite alien to me. Would that grant me any material advantages?
Ancentry is everything. It tells me from where you came and where you are going.
Quote
It's a common ploy for contractors to take a person with a Spanish surname as a business partner in order to qualify as a minority business in order to get some of the set-asides.
That...is just messed up. Its not like all white people have private yachts and spend their weekends sipping fine wine and eating expensive caviar.
I hate race and gender based positive discrimination. It should just be wealth based and then it would accomplish much the same thing except be fairer.
Quote from: Siege on June 24, 2011, 07:17:22 PM
Ancentry is everything. It tells me from where you came and where you are going.
No it doesn't.
Snatch a baby from Africa and have an Irish family raise him and his ancestry counts for squat.
Quote from: dps on June 24, 2011, 02:45:19 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on June 24, 2011, 07:17:34 AM
Hispanic may be too broad an ethnic label, but what % of Hispanics who come to the US are actually white? Most of the time, it's pretty obvious someone is of Latin American origin. The only Latin American I ever met who looked white was this Danish-Venezuelan girl of wealthy parentage who later joined Opus Dei.
Cameron Diaz. Martin Sheen. Christina Aguilara.
Alexis Bledel,
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wallcrow.com%2Fimages%2FA%2FAlexis%2520Bledel%2FAlexis%2520Bledel-0878.jpg&hash=52633f7727a03bbe6fdd4a168566f1d0fed335df)
Bledel was born
Kimberly Alexis Bledel in Houston (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston), Texas.
Her mother, Nanette (née Dozier), is Mexican (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mexicans), and her father, Martin Bledel, is an Argentine of Danish descent. She has a younger brother. Her first language is Spanish, and she did not learn English until she began school.
Sara Paxton
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blog-city.info%2Fen%2Fimg2%2F2947_sara-paxton-300a100606.jpg&hash=438fc39ad6b5c67cd748911d80eb97e4ed98af78)
Paxton, an only child, was born in Woodland Hills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodland_Hills,_Los_Angeles), Los Angeles to what she has described as "a very mixed family."
[2] Her father, Steve, is of Irish, Scottish, and English descent, and is distantly related to actor Bill Paxton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Paxton).
Her mother, Lucia, was born in Monterrey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monterrey), Mexico and raised in Ciudad Acuña (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciudad_Acu%C3%B1a).
[3][4][5][2] Paxton's mother is Jewish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Mexico) and Paxton's father converted to Judaism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conversion_to_Judaism) upon marrying her mother]/b].[6][7][8] Both her parents are dentists.[9]
Too old and fat.
Ah yes. A Jew in Hollywood. That's a shocker. :P
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
That's already starting. Some government and HR forms now ask the question of Hispanic origins separately from the question of "race".
I'm also curious to see how many people will start identifying themselves as mixed/multiple as that option continues to proliferate.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
I'm wondering if, in a hundred years, the concepts of "white" and "black" and "yellow" and "red" and whateverelse to describe people won't be laughed at as a silly concept. I am laughing now.
"Retard" will still be around. :console:
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
T'would make more sense to consider the majority of them a variant of Native American.
Quote from: grumbler on June 25, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
I'm wondering if, in a hundred years, the concepts of "white" and "black" and "yellow" and "red" and whateverelse to describe people won't be laughed at as a silly concept. I am laughing now.
Are you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? :(
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 03:10:13 PM
Are you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? :(
Well there's a terrifying, dystopian view of the future.
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 03:10:13 PMAre you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? :(
Nonsense, it has taken thousands of years for him to get that way.
Quote from: Strix on June 25, 2011, 03:29:06 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 25, 2011, 03:10:13 PMAre you implying that in 100 years, we will all be grumbler? :(
Nonsense, it has taken thousands of years for him to get that way.
Exactly. One cannot get this advanced in a mere century. :showoff:
Everyone, carry on with your "one drop" nonsense.
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
They certainly stretch our concepts of race and nationality. We put these things into context as if the other minority groups have the sort of racial nationalistic conciousness the Black Americans do. But the Latinos (and the other rapidly growing immigrant group the Asians) are divided into dozens of ethnic and national groups. They are more likely to join the American Borg like the Euro immigrants before them then create a culture all their own like the Black Americans (and even in their case they created theirs mostly out of necessity). So the whole 'minority majority' thing is not going to mean much.
I mean Texas is minority majority and nobody points to what an incredibly diverse culture we have.
Quote from: grumbler on June 25, 2011, 02:16:53 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
I'm wondering if, in a hundred years, the concepts of "white" and "black" and "yellow" and "red" and whateverelse to describe people won't be laughed at as a silly concept. I am laughing now.
Well we can always hope.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 24, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?
A pedigree showing pure Asian roots going back a thousand years!
Actually I think it is an honor system in most cases.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 08:04:48 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 24, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
Are there really grants specifically for asians or african-americans in the US? Do they ask for any sort of "proof"?
A pedigree showing pure Asian roots going back a thousand years!
Actually I think it is an honor system in most cases.
I know that at one time, the requirement to get any of the set-asides for being Hispanic was to have a Spanish surname. Which kind of screws someone who's 15/16 Spanish, but the 1/16 happens to be the person whose their surname came from. OTOH, there was a guy who was an Anglo, a member of one of the FFVs (first families of Virginia) who legally changed his last name to Hernandez or something like that to qualify for a set-aside, and the courts sided with him and said that he qualified IIRC, so Congress changed the law rather quickly.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 25, 2011, 02:28:26 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 25, 2011, 05:42:37 AM
I find the whole Hispanic thing weird. They'll be considered a sub-group of white within a hundred years, just like the Italians and the Irish are now.
T'would make more sense to consider the majority of them a variant of Native American.
I think you are right.
The latinos descend from native americans from the spanish colonies that learned to speak their conquerors' language.
Majority of mexicans appear to have zero spanish genes, anyway.
I think you are right. Brown latinos should be considered native-americans, and white latinos a subgroup of caucasian.
And whoever is not happy, can call himself mixed race.
I'm pretty sure the majority of humankind are mixed race one way or another.
I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.
In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification. At least officially.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.
In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification. At least officially.
Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.
Which is clearly nonsense.
Quote from: dps on June 27, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.
In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification. At least officially.
Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.
...as long as it's black?
Quote from: Siege on June 24, 2011, 07:17:22 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on June 24, 2011, 11:04:32 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 24, 2011, 10:44:58 AMI assume that you could claim hispanic heritage in the US.
The thought of claiming an ancestry is quite alien to me. Would that grant me any material advantages?
Ancentry is everything. It tells me from where you came and where you are going.
Not really. For the record among my surnames are at least two typical examples of
converso family names, which means I likely have some Jewish or Muslim ancestry.
Quote from: The Brain on June 27, 2011, 02:04:10 PM
Quote from: dps on June 27, 2011, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
I think you can choose Native American and Hispanic...if you choose to do so.
In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification. At least officially.
Yeah, the way the census forms put it is that Hispanics can be of any race.
...as long as it's black?
:lol:
Touché.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 01:41:38 PM
In any case races in the US are not based on genetic descent but self identification. At least officially.
Although self-identification is certainly shaped by external factors. ^_^
Quote from: garbon on June 27, 2011, 03:05:28 PM
Although self-identification is certainly shaped by external factors. ^_^
Well yeah. Though I did like your efforts to identify as Indian.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 03:08:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 27, 2011, 03:05:28 PM
Although self-identification is certainly shaped by external factors. ^_^
Well yeah. Though I did like your efforts to identify as Indian.
I was actually thinking about how I can/have identified myself as solely black but would feel weird saying I'm solely white.
Quote from: garbon on June 27, 2011, 03:11:19 PM
I was actually thinking about how I can/have identified myself as solely black but would feel weird saying I'm solely white.
I know that makes no sense. But then the whole thing is silly. I am sorta glad we have alot more different sorts of people now so maybe we can stop with the rigid black/white thing.
I was thinking how absurd it would be if I had married a black woman my kids would somehow not really be part of my family in some stupid way...at least according to society.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 03:14:00 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 27, 2011, 03:11:19 PM
I was actually thinking about how I can/have identified myself as solely black but would feel weird saying I'm solely white.
I know that makes no sense. But then the whole thing is silly. I am sorta glad we have alot more different sorts of people now so maybe we can stop with the rigid black/white thing.
I was thinking how absurd it would be if I had married a black woman my kids would somehow not really be part of my family in some stupid way...at least according to society.
:lol:
Now that's just silly.
Why reach for straws when there's plenty of nicely rooted branches?
Quote from: Slargos on June 27, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
:lol:
Now that's just silly.
Why is it silly? We have people questioning whether Obama is American enough when the American roots on his mothers side go back over 300 years.
Roots was made up.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 03:17:33 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 27, 2011, 03:16:00 PM
:lol:
Now that's just silly.
Why is it silly? We have people questioning whether Obama is American enough when the American roots on his mothers side go back over 300 years.
It's silly because even though your child would be a mongrel bastard, I don't think even the most unapologetic racist would claim you're not family.
Obama's place of birth is under fire, not his genetic heritage. What kind of asinine idiot would under the current political climate dispute Obama's eligibility for President on the basis that he's a jiggerboo?
Quote from: Slargos on June 27, 2011, 03:29:42 PM
It's silly because even though your child would be a mongrel bastard, I don't think even the most unapologetic racist would claim you're not family.
Except those kids usually are not considered mongrel bastards but 100% one thing or the other. Which is what I was gettin' at.
:yes: Robocop was 100% something.
Quote from: Valmy on June 27, 2011, 03:31:15 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 27, 2011, 03:29:42 PM
It's silly because even though your child would be a mongrel bastard, I don't think even the most unapologetic racist would claim you're not family.
Except those kids usually are not considered mongrel bastards but 100% one thing or the other. Which is what I was gettin' at.
Then why not say that instead of what you did say? :hmm:
Which is what I was getting at. :sleep:
Quote from: Slargos on June 27, 2011, 03:41:07 PM
Then why not say that instead of what you did say? :hmm:
I thought I did. But if I did not then disregard what I first said.
Quote from: Siege on June 27, 2011, 01:36:12 PM
I think you are right.
The latinos descend from native americans from the spanish colonies that learned to speak their conquerors' language.
Majority of mexicans appear to have zero spanish genes, anyway.
Not true. Various genomic studies suggest that the typical Mexican has about 50% native, 40% European, and 10% other unique genomes, IIRC. The percentage of uniquely European genomes increases as one goes north in the country, and as one's looks at higher social classes.
QuoteI'm pretty sure the majority of humankind are mixed race one way or another.
Which is why the concept of different "races" is so silly. Self-identification is just guesswork based on anecdotes.
Quote from: The Brain on June 27, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
:yes: Robocop was 100% something.
Whoah. A RoboCop tagline reference. Bravo sir.
Quote from: The Brain on June 27, 2011, 03:32:16 PM
:yes: Robocop was 100% something.
Would he be a white machine?