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Title: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: citizen k on June 02, 2011, 11:54:55 PM
Ed Anger has mentioned before how Martin Bashir should be sent back to UK.

QuoteIs Palin's bus tour illegal?
Thu Jun 2

New York – MSNBC's Martin Bashir claims the former Alaska governor is violating federal law by waving the flag while raising money

Rumored presidential candidate Sarah Palin has taken plenty of heat for her ambiguous, unorthodox, and press-unfriendly "One Nation" bus tour. But MSNBC's Martin Bashir has gone beyond routine criticism, suggesting that Palin's east-coast jaunt might be "in breach of federal law." Citing the United States Flag Code, Bashir says you can't use the nation's flag in any form of advertising and Palin, he argues, is using her bus, which is plastered with giant images of the flag, not for campaigning, but for "filling her pockets." Does he have a point, or is this just an anti-Palin cheap shot?

This guy does not know what he is talking about: Martin Bashir is an ignorant political hack, says Alex Fitzsimmons at News Busters. The nonpartisan Congressional Research Service, which provides legal advice to Congress, says observance of the Flag Code is strictly voluntary. And if the Supreme Court says you can burn the flag, surely you can decorate a bus with it.
"Martin Bashir: Sarah Palin's bus tour a 'breach of federal law'"

This is hypocritical and blatant Palin-bashing: Bashir is just singling out Palin because she's conservative, says Patterico's Pontifications. Why didn't he complain when Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton, and John Kerry — Democrats all — used the flag in their political ads? The fact is that "politicians wrap themselves in the flag all the time." And Bashir's own network has liberally, and inappropriately, splashed the flag on the screen, too.
"Martin Bashir is shocked and angry that ... a politician is using a flag in an ad"

It may be legal, but Palin is exploiting the flag: "Palin is not promoting a book, a candidacy, or anything but herself," says Alex Moore at Death + Taxes. There are indeed no legal penalties for violating the Flag Code, as "it's more just a base line code for decency and respect." But this blatant exploitation of the stars and stripes proves that Palin is a charlatan who sells herself as the pinnacle of patriotism, but "can't even rise to meet this basic benchmark" of decency.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 12:12:21 AM
Didn't think I would find my self agreeing with a guy from NewsBusters.  I'll be damned.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: MadImmortalMan on June 03, 2011, 12:44:33 AM
Plenty of real stuff to criticize Palin about. What a waste.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: garbon on June 03, 2011, 01:20:50 AM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on June 03, 2011, 12:44:33 AM
Plenty of real stuff to criticize Palin about. What a waste.

This.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 01:29:00 AM
Hmm.  I seemed to have confused Martin Bashir with Roland Martin (who is also a hack).  Still this Bashir guy made a really stupid statement.  So happily the world is large enough for them both to be hacks.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 03, 2011, 01:34:02 AM
Nice to see MSNBC upholding its high standards.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 01:38:45 AM
Fighting fire with fire.  :)
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 01:58:20 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 01:38:45 AM
Fighting fire with fire.  :)

I don't see Palin as a serious candidate anymore.  She's not even worth wasting words on anymore.  There's little reason to attack her, she's already destroyed her own credibility.  Even amongst GOP faithful.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Josquius on June 03, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
I really hope Palin does get the nomination. That would be funny.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2011, 05:53:04 AM
Quote from: Tyr on June 03, 2011, 05:46:18 AM
I really hope Palin does get the nomination. That would be funny.

Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 05:54:29 AM
Quote from: citizen k on June 02, 2011, 11:54:55 PM
Ed Anger has mentioned before how Martin Bashir should be sent back to UK.



:yes:

I tried watching his show on MSNBC. He is a very,very stupid man.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: grumbler on June 03, 2011, 06:27:48 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 01:38:45 AM
Fighting fire with fire gasoline.  :)
FYP.  These kinds of absurd accusations only help the accused - particularly people like Palin, who run on the platform of "the MSM [sic] is out to get me!"  :)
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Legbiter on June 03, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 01:58:20 AM

I don't see Palin as a serious candidate anymore.  She's not even worth wasting words on anymore.  There's little reason to attack her, she's already destroyed her own credibility.  Even amongst GOP faithful.

But don't you want to vote for her out of morbid curiosity, just to see how a Palin presidency would play out? I picture it'd be like 1984 crossed with a lot of skinned animals.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 07:03:45 AM
While this country does seem to be getting stupider by the year, I still don't think a charlatan like her is going to con her way into the White House any time soon.  By the time America is stupid enough to elect a Sarah Palin, demographic shifts mean it'll be electing Sierra Perez instead.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Slargos on June 03, 2011, 08:30:21 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 07:03:45 AM
While this country does seem to be getting stupider by the year, I still don't think a charlatan like her is going to con her way into the White House any time soon.  By the time America is stupid enough to elect a Sarah Palin, demographic shifts mean it'll be electing Sierra Perez instead.

:lol:

Unwittingly raciss?  :lmfao:
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 08:34:05 AM
Sorta reminds me of the movie Idiocracy, where the future stupid people are all vaguely brown-ish.

Mike Judge, you naughty man, I see what you did there.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Berkut on June 03, 2011, 08:47:24 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 01:38:45 AM
Fighting firestupid with fire even more stupid.  :)

FYP.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: KRonn on June 03, 2011, 09:00:46 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 01:58:20 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 01:38:45 AM
Fighting fire with fire.  :)

I don't see Palin as a serious candidate anymore.  She's not even worth wasting words on anymore.  There's little reason to attack her, she's already destroyed her own credibility.  Even amongst GOP faithful.
Heh, agreed. She's just a mouth piece for the Tea Party types. I'd be surprised if she runs, but even more so if she gets anywhere if she does run.

And still, some of the media is in a frenzy over her, following her, while at the same time seeming to lament the media coverage of her, even if it's their own.   :D   
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 09:34:39 AM
Quote from: Legbiter on June 03, 2011, 06:54:08 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 01:58:20 AM

I don't see Palin as a serious candidate anymore.  She's not even worth wasting words on anymore.  There's little reason to attack her, she's already destroyed her own credibility.  Even amongst GOP faithful.

But don't you want to vote for her out of morbid curiosity, just to see how a Palin presidency would play out? I picture it'd be like 1984 crossed with a lot of skinned animals.

No.  No more then I would want to put rancid roadkill in my mouth just out of curiosity.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
Quote from: Slargos on June 03, 2011, 08:30:21 AM:lol:

Unwittingly raciss?  :lmfao:
Not raciss, realisstic.  Also I love Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, etc. :)
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Valmy on June 03, 2011, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
Not raciss, realisstic.  Also I love Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, etc. :)

They are some of my best friends :)
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Scipio on June 03, 2011, 10:58:23 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 03, 2011, 09:43:57 AM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 09:34:56 AM
Not raciss, realisstic.  Also I love Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Cubans, etc. :)

They are some of my best friends :)
They make some of my favorite cigars.  And rum.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Valmy on June 03, 2011, 10:59:12 AM
It is going to be so hard to tune out the idiocy of this election.  If only I could move to Australia until 2013.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: dps on June 03, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 07:03:45 AM
While this country does seem to be getting stupider by the year, I still don't think a charlatan like her is going to con her way into the White House any time soon.  By the time America is stupid enough to elect a Sarah Palin, demographic shifts mean it'll be electing Sierra Perez instead.


When I read the bit about a charlatan conning their way to the White House, I kind of shivered, wondering how close we might have come to John Edwards in the Oval Office.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Tonitrus on June 03, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about the doctor from DS9.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 08:50:49 PM
How is it possibly illegal to use the flag in an advertisement?
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 08:50:49 PM
How is it possibly illegal to use the flag in an advertisement?

He said it violates the Flag Code, which isn't a real law.  It's asinine.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Valmy on June 03, 2011, 10:26:52 PM
Quote from: dps on June 03, 2011, 07:50:00 PM
When I read the bit about a charlatan conning their way to the White House, I kind of shivered, wondering how close we might have come to John Edwards in the Oval Office.

A victory in Ohio and a murder of Kerry away
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 04, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
We already have had plenty of inept Presidents.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 04, 2011, 09:04:27 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 03, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about the doctor from DS9.
Dirty Augments!  :mad:
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 04, 2011, 10:17:29 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on June 04, 2011, 04:15:05 AM
We already have had plenty of inept Presidents.

Yes, but I'm not sure we've elected a president who's primary selling point was stupidity.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: HisMajestyBOB on June 04, 2011, 12:05:25 PM
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Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: The Brain on June 04, 2011, 12:09:56 PM
Obama is a Republican?
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ed Anger on June 04, 2011, 02:28:18 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 04, 2011, 12:09:56 PM
Obama is a Republican?

BA-ZING
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ideologue on June 04, 2011, 02:31:24 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 04, 2011, 09:04:27 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on June 03, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
I thought this thread was going to be about the doctor from DS9.
Dirty Augments!  :mad:
:lol:
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 04, 2011, 06:58:44 PM
I think the Chimp would have at least finished it's term as Governor.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Scipio on June 05, 2011, 10:57:44 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 04, 2011, 06:58:44 PM
I think the Chimp would have at least finished it's term as Governor.
I'd think anyone mocking the intelligence of a politician would know the difference between "its" and "it's."
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 05, 2011, 11:05:12 AM
Why would you think that.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 05, 2011, 12:03:50 PM
Mocking the perceived lack of intelligence in others is a universal pastime in humans which is independent of one's own mental capacity. :yes:
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 05, 2011, 12:15:00 PM
Also, I make typos.  A lot of typos.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Ed Anger on June 05, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
You people aren't important enough for me to do more that press the spell check button on Google toolbar. You fucks are lucky to get that.
Title: Re: Martin Bashir:"Palin bus tour illegal"
Post by: Razgovory on June 05, 2011, 12:53:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 05, 2011, 12:28:10 PM
You people aren't important enough for me to do more that press the spell check button on Google toolbar. You fucks are lucky to get that.

That's what I do.  Several words count as misspelled despite being spelled correctly using that though.  I find it annoying.