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QuoteThere's a new U.S. symbol for healthful eating: The Agriculture Department unveiled "My Plate" on Thursday, abandoning the food pyramid that had guided many Americans but merely confused others.
The new guide is divided into four slightly different-sized quadrants, with fruits and vegetables taking up half the space and grains and protein making up the other half. The vegetables and grains portions are the largest of the four.
Gone are the old pyramid's references to sugars, fats or oils. What was once a category called "meat and beans" is now simply "proteins," making way for seafood and vegetarian options like tofu. Next to the plate is a blue circle for dairy, which could be a glass of milk or a food such as cheese or yogurt.
Some critics, including congressional Republicans, have accused the Obama administration of overreaching on regulation, especially when it comes to new rules that tell schools what children can eat on campus.
But the plate is supposed to be a suggestion, not a direction, said Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack.
"We are not telling people what to eat, we are giving them a guide," he said. "We're not suggesting they should not have a cookie or dessert, that's not what it's about."
Vilsack said the new round chart shows that nutrition doesn't have to be complicated. After almost 20 years of leaders preaching good eating through a food pyramid the department now says was overly complex, obesity rates have skyrocketed. He showed off the new plate with first lady Michelle Obama, who has made healthful diets for children a priority.
"Parents don't have the time to measure out exactly three ounces of protein," Mrs. Obama said as she introduced the new graphic. "We do have time to look at our kids' plates."
The department is planning to use social media — posting advice every day on Twitter, for example. The address of the accompanying website, choosemyplate.gov, is written on the chart. That website will eventually feature interactive tools that help people manage their weight and track their exercise.
The new chart is designed to be "more artistic and attractive" and to serve as a visual cue for diners, said Robert Post of the Agriculture Department's Center for Nutrition Policy and Promotion. He has spent two years developing the plate and the website.
Even though the plate is divided into four different-sized sections, the servings don't have to be proportional, say officials who developed the symbol. Every person has different nutritional needs, based on age, health and other factors.
The graphic is based on new department dietary guidelines released in January. Those guidelines, which are revised every five years, tell people to drastically reduce salt and continue limiting saturated fats. They say diners can enjoy food but should balance calories by eating less. The guidelines also suggest making half of your plate fruits and vegetables — a message easily translated on the dinner plate.
"We know Americans want to be healthy, but making those healthy choices is not easy, it's hard," said Surgeon General Regina Benjamin, who joined Mrs. Obama and Vilsack to unveil the plate. "We're trying to make it easier."
Many nutritionists and nutrition groups praised the new effort, crossing their fingers that people will listen.
Marion Nestle, professor of nutrition, food studies, and public health at New York University, said there are already a lot of symbols out there telling people what to eat.
"This brings it all together," she said.
Cheese makers are gonna be pissed.
Quote from: HVC on June 02, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
Cheese makers are gonna be pissed.
Nah, you're now supposed to drink cheese in a cup. :)
Quote from: HVC on June 02, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
Cheese makers are gonna be pissed.
It's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
Quote from: garbon on June 02, 2011, 03:07:35 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 02, 2011, 03:06:13 PM
Cheese makers are gonna be pissed.
Nah, you're now supposed to drink cheese in a cup. :)
Pretzels w/ beer cheese!! :punk:
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Protein? :perv:
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Carbohydrates are present everywhere :huh:
How many times are they going to relaunch it this decade?
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Polish food plate:
Beets, Black bread, Blood of Jews
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 02, 2011, 04:33:18 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Polish food plate:
Beets, Black bread, Blood of Jews
What about kielbasa and pierogi?
Doesn't fit with my comedy.
Dairy shouldn't be on there at all (much as I like it myself). However, as long as politicians are still taking bribes and blowjobs from lobbyists, it's never gonna go away completely.
Quote from: Caliga on June 02, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
Dairy shouldn't be on there at all (much as I like it myself). However, as long as politicians are still taking bribes and blowjobs from lobbyists, it's never gonna go away completely.
I'm surprised it doesn't consist entirely of corn and soy.
Quote from: Caliga on June 02, 2011, 06:32:08 PM
Dairy shouldn't be on there at all (much as I like it myself). However, as long as politicians are still taking bribes and blowjobs from lobbyists, it's never gonna go away completely.
Why not?
Marti complains about fruits. I snicker uncontrollably. :P
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
And sugar.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 02, 2011, 04:21:36 PM
Carbohydrates are present everywhere :huh:
Ok, grumbler.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 02, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Why not?
Because you can live a perfectly healthy life without ever having consumed dairy products, and further a huge percentage of the world's people are lactose intolerant. When was the last time you had cheese at a Chinese restaurant? :)
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
Yes, you can have too much fruit. All that natural sugar isn't good for you. Less fruit, more leafy greens.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2011, 06:00:02 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
Yes, you can have too much fruit. All that natural sugar isn't good for you. Less fruit, more leafy greens.
And that's why the vegetables portion is roughly twice the size of the fruit portion. Nobody is asking you to become a fruit bat.
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2011, 06:00:02 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
Yes, you can have too much fruit. All that natural sugar isn't good for you. Less fruit, more leafy greens.
And that's why the vegetables portion is roughly twice the size of the fruit portion. Nobody is asking you to become a fruit bat.
'Cause we don't need to ask.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 03, 2011, 06:26:54 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 06:15:19 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 03, 2011, 06:00:02 AM
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
Yes, you can have too much fruit. All that natural sugar isn't good for you. Less fruit, more leafy greens.
And that's why the vegetables portion is roughly twice the size of the fruit portion. Nobody is asking you to become a fruit bat.
'Cause we don't need to ask.
Wut?
I'm eating a banana right now. :)
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 02, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Why not?
Because you can live a perfectly healthy life without ever having consumed dairy products, and further a huge percentage of the world's people are lactose intolerant. When was the last time you had cheese at a Chinese restaurant? :)
When was the last time I wanted to live like I was Chinese? :hmm:
Besides, I'm not sure why it would be beneficial to tell people who aren't lactose intolerant to eat something nutritious. Even if it is just: Have a glass of milk instead of a soda.
Cal has turned into a damned hippy.
#1 on the Ed Anger disapproval list. SON, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 07:17:05 AM
Cal has turned into a damned hippy.
#1 on the Ed Anger disapproval list. SON, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Actually I think he just wants people to suffer from low calcium.
All I'm trying to say is that it's not necessary for a balanced diet so it probably shouldn't be on this dumb 'food plate' thing.
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 08:06:15 AM
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
:huh:
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 07:17:05 AM
Cal has turned into a damned hippy.
#1 on the Ed Anger disapproval list. SON, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Actually I think he just wants people to suffer from low calcium.
unless you're a menopausal woman you get all the calcium you need from leafy greens and meat. And even if you're a menopausal woman dairy won't give you enough and you'll need supplements.
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 07:17:05 AM
Cal has turned into a damned hippy.
#1 on the Ed Anger disapproval list. SON, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Actually I think he just wants people to suffer from low calcium.
unless you're a menopausal woman you get all the calcium you need from leafy greens and meat. And even if you're a menopausal woman dairy won't give you enough and you'll need supplements.
I'm sure that everyone eat sufficient amounts of leafy greens a day. :P
And then of course, there is the related issue that many people suffer from vitamin d deficiencies.
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 08:54:36 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 08:51:21 AM
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 07:22:13 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 07:17:05 AM
Cal has turned into a damned hippy.
#1 on the Ed Anger disapproval list. SON, I AM DISAPPOINT.
Actually I think he just wants people to suffer from low calcium.
unless you're a menopausal woman you get all the calcium you need from leafy greens and meat. And even if you're a menopausal woman dairy won't give you enough and you'll need supplements.
I'm sure that everyone eat sufficient amounts of leafy greens a day. :P
And then of course, there is the related issue that many people suffer from vitamin d deficiencies.
less greens means more meat so it balances out :lol:
Unless you're a nomad you really don't need milk as a balanced part of your diet. which is what i believe cal was getting at.
I think the protein slice is too big. :unsure:
Quote from: KRonn on June 03, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
I think the protein slice is too big. :unsure:
there's proteing in a lot of stuff. i don't like this plate. Give me pictures of stuff i'm supposed to eat not a coloured wedge that could mean any combination of things.
Are you supposed to eyeball the areas? And what do the areas represent? Calories, portions, something else?
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 08:57:02 AM
less greens means more meat so it balances out :lol:
We have a lot of sources of non-food. Besides, it is totally possible to get through the day with little leafy greens and little meat.
I bet you can stack several steaks on that small portion area.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 03, 2011, 09:47:48 AM
I bet you can stack several steaks on that small portion area.
Mmmmmm, a stack of Filet Mignon. A new item from Denny's.
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 02, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Why not?
Because you can live a perfectly healthy life without ever having consumed dairy products, and further a huge percentage of the world's people are lactose intolerant. When was the last time you had cheese at a Chinese restaurant? :)
People who are lactose intolerant will be outcompeted. My bones are adamantium--thanks to milk!
Martinus' bones are probably like chalk.
Dairy products rock.
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 08:06:15 AM
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
:huh:
It's pretty rare to drink milk for Euros (except baby formula of course). My family only keeps milk for cooking purposes, cakes, pastries, that sort of thing. We do eat lots of cheese and yogurt though.
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 08:06:15 AM
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
:huh:
It's pretty rare to drink milk for Euros (except baby formula of course). My family only keeps milk for cooking purposes, cakes, pastries, that sort of thing. We do eat lots of cheese and yogurt though.
I just can't fathom where a glass of milk would be a preferable beverage to anything else. I eat dairy products, and I put a lot of milk in my coffee and the like, but drinking a glass of pure watery cow fat? No thank you. I can get my calcium from much more appetizing sources.
I have always been especially grossed out by the concept of people having a glass of milk to a dinner meal or some such. Totally disgusting.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 02, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Why not?
Because you can live a perfectly healthy life without ever having consumed dairy products, and further a huge percentage of the world's people are lactose intolerant. When was the last time you had cheese at a Chinese restaurant? :)
People who are lactose intolerant will be outcompeted. My bones are adamantium--thanks to milk!
Martinus' bones are probably like chalk.
Never had a bone in my body broken.
Besides, a vegetarian isn't really in a position to lecture anyone about a balanced diet. :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Larch on June 03, 2011, 05:53:45 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 02, 2011, 04:19:50 PM
Ugh, too much fruit. Carbs anyone? :rolleyes:
Too much fruit? What the fuck?
This is what happens when you solicit culinary advice from a Pole and and Irishman.
Quote from: KRonn on June 03, 2011, 09:03:26 AM
I think the protein slice is too big. :unsure:
It really depends on what you are trying to accomplish (and why such pictures and one-size-fits-all diets are a crock of shit). You need to eat different food when you want to lose weight, and different food when you are exercising and need to get energy and muscles. Plus individual intolerance to certain types of foods is often ignored, with bad results.
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 08:06:15 AM
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
:huh:
It's pretty rare to drink milk for Euros (except baby formula of course). My family only keeps milk for cooking purposes, cakes, pastries, that sort of thing. We do eat lots of cheese and yogurt though.
I just can't fathom where a glass of milk would be a preferable beverage to anything else. I eat dairy products, and I put a lot of milk in my coffee and the like, but drinking a glass of pure watery cow fat? No thank you. I can get my calcium from much more appetizing sources.
I have always been especially grossed out by the concept of people having a glass of milk to a dinner meal or some such. Totally disgusting.
it's good when accompanied with something sweet like cookies.
Key missing element on this plate: the big circle for fermented grape products.
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 04:00:12 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 03:56:56 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on June 03, 2011, 03:53:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 03, 2011, 08:49:01 AM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 08:06:15 AM
Adults shouldnt consume milk as a drink. Period.
:huh:
It's pretty rare to drink milk for Euros (except baby formula of course). My family only keeps milk for cooking purposes, cakes, pastries, that sort of thing. We do eat lots of cheese and yogurt though.
I just can't fathom where a glass of milk would be a preferable beverage to anything else. I eat dairy products, and I put a lot of milk in my coffee and the like, but drinking a glass of pure watery cow fat? No thank you. I can get my calcium from much more appetizing sources.
I have always been especially grossed out by the concept of people having a glass of milk to a dinner meal or some such. Totally disgusting.
it's good when accompanied with something sweet like cookies.
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 03, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
Key missing element on this plate: the big circle for fermented grape products.
Seconded.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on June 03, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
Key missing element on this plate: the big circle for fermented grape products.
make it part of your fruit and carb quotient.
If booze is included, the English circle for it would be HUGE.
One problem that I see with this plate is that half of it is not made up of blueberries.
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
Ya, that's just wrong. i rarelydrink milk myself. Have it around for the random bwl of cereal or the like. My mom drinks a ton of it though. she's one of those kind of people who can drink it on its own as just a normal drink. i can't do that. tastes odd.
and even the milk i drink is 1% so as little actual "cow taste" as possible.
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
Ya, that's just wrong. i rarelydrink milk myself. Have it around for the random cowl of cereal or the link. My mom drinks a ton of it though. she's one of the kind of people who can drink it on its own as just a normal drink. i can't do that. tastes odd.
and even the milk i drink is 1% so as little actual "cow taste" as possible.
Might as well drink water if you are drinking 1%.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 04:12:07 PM
Quote from: HVC on June 03, 2011, 04:06:51 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
Ya, that's just wrong. i rarelydrink milk myself. Have it around for the random cowl of cereal or the link. My mom drinks a ton of it though. she's one of the kind of people who can drink it on its own as just a normal drink. i can't do that. tastes odd.
and even the milk i drink is 1% so as little actual "cow taste" as possible.
Might as well drink water if you are drinking 1%.
I want my animal teet juice as diluted as possible :lol:
You vill drink 2% or whole milk! OR ELSE. :P
I gotta say that when I actually do drink milk (with cereal or cocoa for example), I prefer 3%, as at least it has some taste. In fact, my favourite coffee addition is condensed milk, as it has a much richer taste.
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
My sister in law does that. One of her many quirks-- she really makes it too easy for me to mock her.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
You vill drink 2% or whole milk! OR ELSE. :P
Seriously!
I drink milk with lots of things at home.
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
You vill drink 2% or whole milk! OR ELSE. :P
I like skim milk, but 2% or whole for cooking.
Quote from: derspiess on June 03, 2011, 04:53:58 PM
Quote from: Martinus on June 03, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Ok, I'm going to admit it.
Still, I have seen people drink a glass of milk with a steak or stuff like that. :shutup:
My sister in law does that. One of her many quirks-- she really makes it too easy for me to mock her.
I do that. I really like milk.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
You vill drink 2% or whole milk! OR ELSE. :P
I like skim milk, but 2% or whole for cooking.
You'd like a Tres Leche cake.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/tres-leche-cake-recipe/index.html
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 06:39:54 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 06:28:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 03, 2011, 04:17:49 PM
You vill drink 2% or whole milk! OR ELSE. :P
I like skim milk, but 2% or whole for cooking.
You'd like a Tres Leche cake.
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/tres-leche-cake-recipe/index.html
Yes. Yes, I would. :mmm:
They are: delicious.
Quote from: Ideologue on June 03, 2011, 02:14:41 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 03, 2011, 05:24:32 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 02, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Why not?
Because you can live a perfectly healthy life without ever having consumed dairy products, and further a huge percentage of the world's people are lactose intolerant. When was the last time you had cheese at a Chinese restaurant? :)
People who are lactose intolerant will be outcompeted. My bones are adamantium--thanks to milk!
Martinus' bones are probably like chalk.
Kids here are given milk by the school, but I'm sure they get much less calcium in their diet then western kids and they break bones all the damn time. It's fucking ridiculous.
I can't stand drinking plain milk. My kids are just like my ex, they are always drinking huge glasses of milk and that is all they drink with dinner. :yuk:
Milk is just about the healthiest nice tasting beverage. Water is better, but :yawn:
Quote from: Maladict on June 02, 2011, 03:34:54 PM
It's not meant to be taken literally; it refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.
^_^