Saw this rather funny Q&A:
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Q. Men: Do all men look at porn? Seriously? It used to bother me so much that I found my husband looking at porn so much. We have an active sex life and a good marriage. He is looking at very "normal" stuff. Why do they do it? I've resigned myself not to get upset about it anymore, but it does bother me to an extent.A: There was a researcher not long ago who wanted to do a study comparing men who looked at porn to men who never looked at porn. He was unable to come to any conclusions because he couldn't find any men who had never looked at porn. Now we find out that there was porn on the computers at Osama Bin Laden's lair.
:lol:
The blind?
Blind men probably use Barbie dolls.
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
Blind men probably use Barbie dolls.
Siegy isn't blind. :huh:
Female sexuality never ceases to amaze me. Is it really that big of a mystery why men look at porn? Can they really be so different? Sometimes I think yes and sometimes I think no but man it varies so much from woman to woman.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Female sexuality never ceases to amaze me. Is it really that big of a mystery why men look at porn? Can they really be so different? Sometimes I think yes and sometimes I think no but man it varies so much from woman to woman.
It never amazes me as I find it irrelevant. ^_^
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Female sexuality never ceases to amaze me. Is it really that big of a mystery why men look at porn? Can they really be so different? Sometimes I think yes and sometimes I think no but man it varies so much from woman to woman.
Why do we look at porn?
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 17, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Why do we look at porn?
For the fine acting and brilliant cinematography.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Female sexuality never ceases to amaze me. Is it really that big of a mystery why men look at porn? Can they really be so different? Sometimes I think yes and sometimes I think no but man it varies so much from woman to woman.
they have porn. it's just boring and they call it romance novels.
Besides, they sex toy industry is't a billion dollar industry for nothing.
Quote from: HVC on May 17, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
they have porn. it's just boring and they call it romance novels.
Heh those are literotica in all but name...or so I have heard.
i have a coworker who reads those things at work. Guy couldn't get away with readinga playboy at work (for the articles) :lol:
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 10:14:24 AM
Female sexuality never ceases to amaze me. Is it really that big of a mystery why men look at porn? Can they really be so different? Sometimes I think yes and sometimes I think no but man it varies so much from woman to woman.
women like to read. Offer them porn stories and they'll like it. And yes, it's often called "romance novels" and it's very "graphic" in literrary terms.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 10:26:58 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 17, 2011, 10:25:31 AM
Why do we look at porn?
For the fine acting and brilliant cinematography.
Fwiw, there is some serious skill that goes into a pornographic performance.
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.
Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.
No, that's really easy.
But fucking in tremendously uncomfortable positions, staying hard through cuts, coming in a synchronized fashion with other actors, not to mention the hours at the gym and the waxing.
For female talent in straight porn, it's at least as intense--much of the above applies, especially getting fucked in uncomfortable positions, and add to that also getting fucked in uncomfortable places (like the back of Volkswagen).
Of course, this mainly refers to top-flight pornography. More amateur stuff is almost assuredly a method for guys with a disposable income to fuck prostitutes while hiding behind their First Amendment rights--although in some cases it's clearly a labor of love (Camille Crimson, for example). Tastes can certainly vary, but I don't expect the perfect-people porn invented in the late 90s and its gonzo development in the 00s isn't to disappear anytime soon, and so there will still be seriously talented and dedicated people making sixty movies a year.
I dunno, I just think it's a tad disrespectful to find a work of art attractive enough that you literally jerk off to it and then dismiss the efforts of everyone involved in it.
Well, I am sure all the people involved in making porn are crushed to know that their art is not respected in the manner it deserves.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
Fwiw, there is some serious skill that goes into a pornographic performance.
Yes but that is not why people watch porn now is it?
I've probably mentioned this before, but I had an acquaintance (more just knew this person tangentially) who graduated from college with a research oriented degree that wasn't marketable. While going to nursing school she got a part time job with google researching all the different types of porn on the internet.
Quote from: Berkut on May 17, 2011, 11:22:04 AM
Well, I am sure all the people involved in making porn are crushed to know that their art is not respected in the manner it deserves.
Probably not, because society doesn't seem to think that day's hard work making art that other people will enjoy isn't worth respecting if the work is professional fucking. Even though we need pornography a lot more than a billion dollar movie about colonialism.
Of course, I'm probably a hypocrite, since I haven't paid for porn since I bought New Wave Hookers 4 (that is some cinema right there). Granted places like YouPorn appear (?) to work in association with the industry, but at the same time I came to the conclusion that it was pretty shitty to draw an arbitrary line between supporting one thing I like (say the couple of comics I buy every month, or the BD-DVDs I buy of movies that I feel deserved a little extra support like Moon or Watchmen, or each new Bad Religion album) and another thing I like (say Miyu Misaki getting bukkaked by eighty gentlemen). So pretty soon I'm gonna start paying in to the system which has given me so very much.
Quote from: ValmyYes but that is not why people watch porn now is it?
The aesthetic and salutary value in witnessing an act of skillfully performed copulation isn't why people watch porn? :unsure:
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.
No, that's really easy.
But fucking in tremendously uncomfortable positions, staying hard through cuts, coming in a synchronized fashion with other actors, not to mention the hours at the gym and the waxing.
For female talent in straight porn, it's at least as intense--much of the above applies, especially getting fucked in uncomfortable positions, and add to that also getting fucked in uncomfortable places (like the back of Volkswagen).
Of course, this mainly refers to top-flight pornography. More amateur stuff is almost assuredly a method for guys with a disposable income to fuck prostitutes while hiding behind their First Amendment rights--although in some cases it's clearly a labor of love (Camille Crimson, for example). Tastes can certainly vary, but I don't expect the perfect-people porn invented in the late 90s and its gonzo development in the 00s isn't to disappear anytime soon, and so there will still be seriously talented and dedicated people making sixty movies a year.
I dunno, I just think it's a tad disrespectful to find a work of art attractive enough that you literally jerk off to it and then dismiss the efforts of everyone involved in it.
Now there is a man who is
serious about his porn.
Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.
And practice. Lots of practice.
Ide has always been a porn savant
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:
:hug:
Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
I still look at porn sometimes.
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
I still look at porn sometimes.
That's why I qualified it with "enough." To fully pull me off porn, I think it would have to be around three a day, which I doubt is a realistic hope. :P
Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation. It's easier, generally, than an actual sexual encounter; even taking all other difficulties out of the equation (finding someone who will have sex with you, finding someone who will have sex with you that will not annoy you, arguing over the acceptance of a personal check), there's still the immediate feedback aspect, which you can't get from anyone else.
And there's always the inspiration value of a pornographic work. It turns out, for example, that chicks in gas masks? Really hot. I don't think I could've figured that out on my own. I don't even own a gas mask.
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:
:hug:
Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?
Yeah, katami - tell us all your fluffer secrets. ;)
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
I still look at porn sometimes.
That's why I qualified it with "enough." To fully pull me off porn, I think it would have to be around three a day, which I doubt is a realistic hope. :P
Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation. It's easier, generally, than an actual sexual encounter; even taking all other difficulties out of the equation (finding someone who will have sex with you, finding someone who will have sex with you that will not annoy you, arguing over the acceptance of a personal check), there's still the immediate feedback aspect, which you can't get from anyone else.
And there's always the inspiration value of a pornographic work. It turns out, for example, that chicks in gas masks? Really hot. I don't think I could've figured that out on my own. I don't even own a gas mask.
Masturbation bores me. I like the thrill of the hunt.
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
Blind men probably use Barbie dolls.
Siegy isn't blind. :huh:
Classic fallacy.
All blind men use barbie dolls, but not all men who use barbie dolls are blind. :hmm:
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Scotsman fallocy. :mad:
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Scotsman fallocy. :mad:
You made a typo.
It's spelled "phallusy". ;)
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Scotsman fallocy. :mad:
You made a typo.
It's spelled "phallusy". ;)
Or perhaps I didn't make
enough of a typo. :hmm:
But yes. I was making a dick joke.
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know
And anyway, I think those were rather good points. Our "real" art is focused entirely on conflict instead of cooperation, and almost exclusively upon pain rather than pleasure. Perhaps "adult" films
are truly more adult, in that they don't often feel the need to wallow in misery and awkwardness.
Is there--
could there be, outside religion--a fiction more utopic and inspiring than a well-made gangbang scene? No war and no violence (as such)--indeed, no conflict and no
enemies to be found here: only a celebration of collective action and pleasure in a natural state. It is all quite fantastic, of course. But it is beauty; should it not then be truth?
Its too bad playboy is going broke Ide, you would have made a good writer for that mag.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.
Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should. :P
The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know
And anyway, I think those were rather good points. Our "real" art is focused entirely on conflict instead of cooperation, and almost exclusively upon pain rather than pleasure. Perhaps "adult" films are truly more adult, in that they don't often feel the need to wallow in misery and awkwardness.
Is there--could there be, outside religion--a fiction more utopic and inspiring than a well-made gangbang scene? No war and no violence (as such)--indeed, no conflict and no enemies to be found here: only a celebration of collective action and pleasure in a natural state. It is all quite fantastic, of course. But it is beauty; should it not then be truth?
I dunno - The "Mona Lisa" on the one hand, "Anal Intrusions II" on the other ... it's a tough choice.
So why choose? Why not just ... combine them? ;)
[Personally, I think you were born the wrong species - you oughtta have been a bonobo. :D
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior ]
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
Wrong.
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation.
OTOH, many women apparantly get upset about their husbands masturbating, too.
I can understand why a woman would get upset if her man prefers masturbation to having sex with her, but not whent he does it when she's unavailable.
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 12:54:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:
:hug:
Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?
Yeah, katami - tell us all your fluffer secrets. ;)
Dead men tell no tales.
Quote from: dps on May 17, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation.
OTOH, many women apparantly get upset about their husbands masturbating, too.
I can understand why a woman would get upset if her man prefers masturbation to having sex with her, but not whent he does it when she's unavailable.
From where do you get this information?
I wonder how much of what we "know" is just a fabrication of television.
For instance, perhaps niggers are actually wonderful people.