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Started by Berkut, May 17, 2011, 09:19:24 AM

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Josephus

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Ideologue

#16
Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.

No, that's really easy.

But fucking in tremendously uncomfortable positions, staying hard through cuts, coming in a synchronized fashion with other actors, not to mention the hours at the gym and the waxing.

For female talent in straight porn, it's at least as intense--much of the above applies, especially getting fucked in uncomfortable positions, and add to that also getting fucked in uncomfortable places (like the back of Volkswagen).

Of course, this mainly refers to top-flight pornography.  More amateur stuff is almost assuredly a method for guys with a disposable income to fuck prostitutes while hiding behind their First Amendment rights--although in some cases it's clearly a labor of love (Camille Crimson, for example).  Tastes can certainly vary, but I don't expect the perfect-people porn invented in the late 90s and its gonzo development in the 00s isn't to disappear anytime soon, and so there will still be seriously talented and dedicated people making sixty movies a year.

I dunno, I just think it's a tad disrespectful to find a work of art attractive enough that you literally jerk off to it and then dismiss the efforts of everyone involved in it.
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Berkut

Well, I am sure all the people involved in making porn are crushed to know that their art is not respected in the manner it deserves.
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Valmy

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 10:59:31 AM
Fwiw, there is some serious skill that goes into a pornographic performance.

Yes but that is not why people watch porn now is it?
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I've probably mentioned this before, but I had an acquaintance (more just knew this person tangentially) who graduated from college with a research oriented degree that wasn't marketable. While going to nursing school she got a part time job with google researching all the different types of porn on the internet.
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Ideologue

#20
Quote from: Berkut on May 17, 2011, 11:22:04 AM
Well, I am sure all the people involved in making porn are crushed to know that their art is not respected in the manner it deserves.

Probably not, because society doesn't seem to think that day's hard work making art that other people will enjoy isn't worth respecting if the work is professional fucking.  Even though we need pornography a lot more than a billion dollar movie about colonialism.

Of course, I'm probably a hypocrite, since I haven't paid for porn since I bought New Wave Hookers 4 (that is some cinema right there).  Granted places like YouPorn appear (?) to work in association with the industry, but at the same time I came to the conclusion that it was pretty shitty to draw an arbitrary line between supporting one thing I like (say the couple of comics I buy every month, or the BD-DVDs I buy of movies that I feel deserved a little extra support like Moon or Watchmen, or each new Bad Religion album) and another thing I like (say Miyu Misaki getting bukkaked by eighty gentlemen).  So pretty soon I'm gonna start paying in to the system which has given me so very much.

Quote from: ValmyYes but that is not why people watch porn now is it?

The aesthetic and salutary value in witnessing an act of skillfully performed copulation isn't why people watch porn? :unsure:
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Malthus

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 11:16:02 AM
Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.

No, that's really easy.

But fucking in tremendously uncomfortable positions, staying hard through cuts, coming in a synchronized fashion with other actors, not to mention the hours at the gym and the waxing.

For female talent in straight porn, it's at least as intense--much of the above applies, especially getting fucked in uncomfortable positions, and add to that also getting fucked in uncomfortable places (like the back of Volkswagen).

Of course, this mainly refers to top-flight pornography.  More amateur stuff is almost assuredly a method for guys with a disposable income to fuck prostitutes while hiding behind their First Amendment rights--although in some cases it's clearly a labor of love (Camille Crimson, for example).  Tastes can certainly vary, but I don't expect the perfect-people porn invented in the late 90s and its gonzo development in the 00s isn't to disappear anytime soon, and so there will still be seriously talented and dedicated people making sixty movies a year.

I dunno, I just think it's a tad disrespectful to find a work of art attractive enough that you literally jerk off to it and then dismiss the efforts of everyone involved in it.

Now there is a man who is serious about his porn. 
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crazy canuck

Quote from: Josephus on May 17, 2011, 11:04:56 AM
Trying to get a bullseye with the money shot right in the eye takes great timing.

And practice.  Lots of practice.

katmai

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Ideologue

#24
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.
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Valmy

Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:


:hug:

Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?
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Zmiinyi defenders: "Russian warship, go fuck yourself."

Ed Anger

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.

I still look at porn sometimes.
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Ideologue

Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.

I still look at porn sometimes.

That's why I qualified it with "enough."  To fully pull me off porn, I think it would have to be around three a day, which I doubt is a realistic hope. :P

Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation.  It's easier, generally, than an actual sexual encounter; even taking all other difficulties out of the equation (finding someone who will have sex with you, finding someone who will have sex with you that will not annoy you, arguing over the acceptance of a personal check), there's still the immediate feedback aspect, which you can't get from anyone else.

And there's always the inspiration value of a pornographic work.  It turns out, for example, that chicks in gas masks?  Really hot.  I don't think I could've figured that out on my own.  I don't even own a gas mask.
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Malthus

Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:


:hug:

Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?

Yeah, katami - tell us all your fluffer secrets.  ;)
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Ed Anger

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on May 17, 2011, 12:37:44 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.

I still look at porn sometimes.

That's why I qualified it with "enough."  To fully pull me off porn, I think it would have to be around three a day, which I doubt is a realistic hope. :P

Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation.  It's easier, generally, than an actual sexual encounter; even taking all other difficulties out of the equation (finding someone who will have sex with you, finding someone who will have sex with you that will not annoy you, arguing over the acceptance of a personal check), there's still the immediate feedback aspect, which you can't get from anyone else.

And there's always the inspiration value of a pornographic work.  It turns out, for example, that chicks in gas masks?  Really hot.  I don't think I could've figured that out on my own.  I don't even own a gas mask.

Masturbation bores me. I like the thrill of the hunt.
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