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Started by Berkut, May 17, 2011, 09:19:24 AM

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Slargos

Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 10:10:13 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 17, 2011, 09:24:20 AM
Blind men probably use Barbie dolls.

Siegy isn't blind.  :huh:

Classic fallacy.

All blind men use barbie dolls, but not all men who use barbie dolls are blind.  :hmm:

mongers

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P
"We have it in our power to begin the world over again"

Malthus

Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Slargos

Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]

Scotsman fallocy.  :mad:

Malthus

Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]

Scotsman fallocy.  :mad:

You made a typo.

It's spelled "phallusy".  ;)
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Slargos

Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:05:08 PM
Quote from: Slargos on May 17, 2011, 01:03:46 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]

Scotsman fallocy.  :mad:

You made a typo.

It's spelled "phallusy".  ;)

Or perhaps I didn't make enough of a typo.  :hmm:

But yes. I was making a dick joke.

Ideologue

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Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]

Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all   
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know

And anyway, I think those were rather good points.  Our "real" art is focused entirely on conflict instead of cooperation, and almost exclusively upon pain rather than pleasure. Perhaps "adult" films are truly more adult, in that they don't often feel the need to wallow in misery and awkwardness.

Is there--could there be, outside religion--a fiction more utopic and inspiring than a well-made gangbang scene?  No war and no violence (as such)--indeed, no conflict and no enemies to be found here: only a celebration of collective action and pleasure in a natural state.  It is all quite fantastic, of course.  But it is beauty; should it not then be truth?
Kinemalogue
Current reviews: The 'Burbs (9/10); Gremlins 2: The New Batch (9/10); John Wick: Chapter 2 (9/10); A Cure For Wellness (4/10)

crazy canuck

Its too bad playboy is going broke Ide, you would have made a good writer for that mag.

Malthus

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 01:15:47 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 01:01:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on May 17, 2011, 12:59:15 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:19:40 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
Now there is a man who is serious about his porn.

Pornography deserves serious attention: it is the only genre that can drive narrative without conflict; it is the only genre capable of seamlessly melding practical and moral education with visceral entertainment; and it is the last bastion of the unashamedly utopian in art.

Just to correct Malthus, you think way more about porn that you should.  :P

The porn that can be philosophised about is not the true porn. [/Lao Tzu]

Beauty is truth, truth beauty,—that is all   
Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know

And anyway, I think those were rather good points.  Our "real" art is focused entirely on conflict instead of cooperation, and almost exclusively upon pain rather than pleasure. Perhaps "adult" films are truly more adult, in that they don't often feel the need to wallow in misery and awkwardness.

Is there--could there be, outside religion--a fiction more utopic and inspiring than a well-made gangbang scene?  No war and no violence (as such)--indeed, no conflict and no enemies to be found here: only a celebration of collective action and pleasure in a natural state.  It is all quite fantastic, of course.  But it is beauty; should it not then be truth?

I dunno - The "Mona Lisa" on the one hand, "Anal Intrusions II" on the other ... it's a tough choice.

So why choose? Why not just  ... combine them?  ;)

[Personally, I think you were born the wrong species - you oughtta have been a bonobo.  :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo#Sexual_social_behavior ]
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane—Marcus Aurelius

Neil

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 09:25:58 AM
If she were a good partner and brought him enough other women to fuck, I bet he wouldn't look at porn.
Wrong.
I do not hate you, nor do I love you, but you are made out of atoms which I can use for something else.

dps

Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM

Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation. 

OTOH, many women apparantly get upset about their husbands masturbating, too.

I can understand why a woman would get upset if her man prefers masturbation to having sex with her, but not whent he does it when she's unavailable.

katmai

Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 12:54:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:


:hug:

Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?

Yeah, katami - tell us all your fluffer secrets.  ;)
Dead men tell no tales.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

dps

Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 17, 2011, 12:54:30 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 17, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 17, 2011, 10:40:34 AM
Aw shucks :blush:


:hug:

Does being part of the process ruin or add to the magic?

Yeah, katami - tell us all your fluffer secrets.  ;)
Dead men tell no tales.

When did you die?

Slargos

Quote from: dps on May 17, 2011, 05:55:32 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 17, 2011, 12:49:58 PM

Of course, I suppose there's something to recommend masturbation. 

OTOH, many women apparantly get upset about their husbands masturbating, too.

I can understand why a woman would get upset if her man prefers masturbation to having sex with her, but not whent he does it when she's unavailable.

From where do you get this information?

I wonder how much of what we "know" is just a fabrication of television.

For instance, perhaps niggers are actually wonderful people.