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Title: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
I have discovered Gaga's latest clip: Judas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc)


The bitch has outdone herself once again!  Yeah it's standard religious stuff guaranteed to push the right buttons for a lot of people but the beat is sick and the imagery blew me away!  And Jesus is actually HOTT in that video.





G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Caliga on May 06, 2011, 06:54:24 AM
Can't watch at work, but since she made tons of money ripping off 'Express Yourself', is this now a ripoff of 'Like A Prayer'? :)
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Syt on May 06, 2011, 07:27:39 AM
The only Judas-related music act worth mentioning:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fde%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fba%2FJudas_priest_logo.svg%2F550px-Judas_priest_logo.svg.png&hash=4c546e9c5117950c3305eddb085e441319fe2719)
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Caliga on May 06, 2011, 07:42:35 AM
:punk:

NOSTRADAMUS, VINDICATION
NOSTRADAMUS, HE'S AVENGED!

:punk:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Duque de Bragança on May 06, 2011, 08:41:53 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 06, 2011, 07:27:39 AM
The only Judas-related music act worth mentioning:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fde%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fba%2FJudas_priest_logo.svg%2F550px-Judas_priest_logo.svg.png&hash=4c546e9c5117950c3305eddb085e441319fe2719)

Jawohl!
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 06, 2011, 08:47:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDzxn66W3uM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDzxn66W3uM)
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Larch on May 06, 2011, 09:48:01 AM
I see that Lady Gaga is a Sons of Anarchy fan.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.

I didn't originally like BTW, but I like it a lot now. I think it may have to do with the video, which did not impress me - on its own, the song is pretty catchy. Also, the Glee performance helped too, I guess.  :blush:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2011, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.

I didn't originally like BTW, but I like it a lot now. I think it may have to do with the video, which did not impress me - on its own, the song is pretty catchy. Also, the Glee performance helped too, I guess.  :blush:

Glee already played the song?!

Oh wait you are surely talking about Born This Way.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:43:28 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.

I didn't originally like BTW, but I like it a lot now. I think it may have to do with the video, which did not impress me - on its own, the song is pretty catchy. Also, the Glee performance helped too, I guess.  :blush:

I did like the Country Road version better.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Josquius on May 06, 2011, 03:17:58 PM
That song couldn't be gayer if it was soundtracking two dudes shagging.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 03:56:12 PM
I didn't care for the music that much, but the Jesus is pretty hot (and has cute feet  :blush:). I could convert to the Church of Gaga, if Christianity looked like that. :unsure:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 03:56:40 PM
Quote from: Valmy on May 06, 2011, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.

I didn't originally like BTW, but I like it a lot now. I think it may have to do with the video, which did not impress me - on its own, the song is pretty catchy. Also, the Glee performance helped too, I guess.  :blush:

Glee already played the song?!

Oh wait you are surely talking about Born This Way.

Yes, I said so (BTW = Born This Way).
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: jamesww on May 06, 2011, 04:01:36 PM
One of the first albums I bought:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amiright.com%2Falbum-covers%2Fimages%2Falbum-Judas-Priest-Screaming-for-Vengeance.jpg&hash=afd75c53e9eedefcd51dca851704ade01215b660)

:blush:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Valmy on May 06, 2011, 04:04:38 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 03:56:40 PM
Yes, I said so (BTW = Born This Way).

When I saw BTW my mind said 'By the Way'.  Curse common internet shorthand.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 06, 2011, 04:35:07 PM
Common internet shorthand is great, it's the ad hoc acronyms that cause needless confusion.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Slargos on May 06, 2011, 04:55:07 PM
Born this way is a fine generic pop song. However, it's far from the high point of her career.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
I have discovered Gaga's latest clip: Judas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc)


The bitch has outdone herself once again!

Are you fucking tone deaf?  Helen Keller couldn't stand this song.

On the plus side, it's easily the worst thing I've ever heard from her.  It clears that bar by kilometers.  So she's "outdone herself" in that respect.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Scipio on May 06, 2011, 07:16:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
I have discovered Gaga's latest clip: Judas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc)


The bitch has outdone herself once again!

Are you fucking tone deaf?  Helen Keller couldn't stand this song.

On the plus side, it's easily the worst thing I've ever heard from her.  It clears that bar by kilometers.  So she's "outdone herself" in that respect.
If you watch it with the sound turned off, it's got a hypnotic train-wreck thing going for it.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: jamesww on May 06, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Quote from: Scipio on May 06, 2011, 07:16:53 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 07:00:21 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 06:51:14 AM
I have discovered Gaga's latest clip: Judas - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wagn8Wrmzuc)


The bitch has outdone herself once again!

Are you fucking tone deaf?  Helen Keller couldn't stand this song.

On the plus side, it's easily the worst thing I've ever heard from her.  It clears that bar by kilometers.  So she's "outdone herself" in that respect.
If you watch it with the sound turned off, it's got a hypnotic train-wreck thing going for it.

Would it improve still further, if one also 'watched it' with the vision off ? :unsure:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 07:00:21 PM


Are you fucking tone deaf?  Helen Keller couldn't stand this song.

On the plus side, it's easily the worst thing I've ever heard from her.  It clears that bar by kilometers.  So she's "outdone herself" in that respect.



Someone who dated Korea for 6 years isn't in a position to question other people's preferences...





G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 08:19:47 PM
I... guess? :huh:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: jamesww on May 06, 2011, 08:22:49 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 07:00:21 PM


Are you fucking tone deaf?  Helen Keller couldn't stand this song.

On the plus side, it's easily the worst thing I've ever heard from her.  It clears that bar by kilometers.  So she's "outdone herself" in that respect.
Someone who dated Korea for 6 years isn't in a position to question other people's preferences...

G.

This is possibly the worst taste post I've yet seen on languish.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 08:26:12 PM
Quote from: jamesww on May 06, 2011, 08:22:49 PM


This is possibly the worst taste post I've yet seen on languish.



You haven't been here long enough.




G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: LaCroix on May 06, 2011, 09:09:02 PM
no, it's pretty awful. the ah-ah-ah gaga part is especially (didn't bother finishing it, so maybe it gets even worse) irritating
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
Yep.  That was ear-gouging.  And I say this as someone who enjoyed the non-words in "Bad Romance," which is probably my favorite song of the last couple of years.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 06, 2011, 10:16:31 PM
Quote from: Martinus on May 06, 2011, 11:10:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 06, 2011, 11:00:17 AM
I like this song much better than Born This Way, though not sure I'm in love.

I didn't originally like BTW, but I like it a lot now. I think it may have to do with the video, which did not impress me - on its own, the song is pretty catchy. Also, the Glee performance helped too, I guess.  :blush:

So you got the message that this was something that gays were suppose to like and so you decided to like it?  God, you are pathetic.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
You know, that Lettow quote really is pretty great.  "...Or in space."
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 06, 2011, 11:10:46 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 06, 2011, 10:47:42 PM
You know, that Lettow quote really is pretty great.  "...Or in space."

His mental health is either in rapid decline or he's put his act into a higher gear.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: LaCroix on May 07, 2011, 03:38:11 AM
it's strange languish thinks he's either (1) troll or (2) mentally insane. there's no middle ground of purposely exaggerated desires
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Syt on May 07, 2011, 05:09:52 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 06, 2011, 07:27:39 AM
The only Judas-related music act worth mentioning:

Forgot another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YanCesjz3bw
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Slargos on May 07, 2011, 05:21:39 AM
Judas sounds like a Eurovision contestant.

First Gaga song I can really say that I immediately don't like.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 07, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
Quote from: Slargos on May 07, 2011, 05:21:39 AM
Judas sounds like a Eurovision contestant.

First Gaga song I can really say that I immediately don't like.

:rolleyes: It's "Judas", not "Judeas".
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Neil on May 07, 2011, 11:13:29 AM
Quote from: Grallon on May 06, 2011, 08:15:37 PM
Someone who dated Korea for 6 years isn't in a position to question other people's preferences...
Oh yes he is.  Even if Korea was terrible (an assertion that I don't necessarily accept.  She seemed perfectly nice.), she's still a woman.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2011, 11:19:26 AM
Korea seems nice to me.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 07, 2011, 11:50:45 AM
Korea seems nice. I want to cane her.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on May 07, 2011, 03:38:11 AM
it's strange languish thinks he's either (1) troll or (2) mentally insane. there's no middle ground of purposely exaggerated desires

Well, there's always the possibility that I'm so far gone that Lettow's perfectly normal statements are being twist by my mad Psyche and I only think he's saying strange things. 
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 07, 2011, 12:43:11 PM
I think even though Lettow is exaggerating, he's still a bit of a freak.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 07, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
Quote from: Neil on May 07, 2011, 11:13:29 AM

Oh yes he is.  Even if Korea was terrible (an assertion that I don't necessarily accept.  She seemed perfectly nice.), she's still a woman.


While Gaga is a goddess.  Bow and worship infidel!

In point of fact Korea was not bad the few times around I spoke to her - I just felt like snapping at H. for his uncouth comments.




G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
Well, that's all well + good, I just don't understand how you can like this song.  She's really done so much better.

Quote
While Gaga is a goddess.  Bow and worship infidel!

I've always been a little mystified by the gay cult that grows up around some female pop stars.  She's talented and makes good dance music (when she's not making area-denial weapons like "Judas," anyway), but other than that, where is the attraction?  The outsize personality?  She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume.  She's pretty hot, but I'd reckon that isn't the reason.  Is it the lack of an actual gay male superstar?
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2011, 07:46:53 PM
All gays want to secretly be flamboyant women.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 07, 2011, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume. 

Gays* don't like the slightest hint of testosterone in their music.

*Well, at least Grallon, Marty and Garbon don't.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 07, 2011, 10:13:58 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 07, 2011, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume. 

Gays* don't like the slightest hint of testosterone in their music.

*Well, at least Grallon, Marty and Garbon don't.

:huh:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 07, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
Well, that's all well + good, I just don't understand how you can like this song.  She's really done so much better.

Quote
While Gaga is a goddess.  Bow and worship infidel!

I've always been a little mystified by the gay cult that grows up around some female pop stars.  She's talented and makes good dance music (when she's not making area-denial weapons like "Judas," anyway), but other than that, where is the attraction?  The outsize personality?  She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume.  She's pretty hot, but I'd reckon that isn't the reason.  Is it the lack of an actual gay male superstar?

Bowie makes crap music these days.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Razgovory on May 07, 2011, 10:21:14 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 07, 2011, 07:52:24 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume. 

Gays* don't like the slightest hint of testosterone in their music.

*Well, at least Grallon, Marty and Garbon don't.

I hold garbon above Marty and Grallon.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Eddie Teach on May 07, 2011, 11:06:45 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 07, 2011, 10:13:58 PM
:huh:

Judgment based on the stuff you post in the "What are you listening to" thread. :contract:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 07, 2011, 10:14:19 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 07:42:17 PM
Well, that's all well + good, I just don't understand how you can like this song.  She's really done so much better.

Quote
While Gaga is a goddess.  Bow and worship infidel!

I've always been a little mystified by the gay cult that grows up around some female pop stars.  She's talented and makes good dance music (when she's not making area-denial weapons like "Judas," anyway), but other than that, where is the attraction?  The outsize personality?  She's into gay rights, yeah, but whoopty-shit; so were David Bowie and Freddie Mercury, one would presume.  She's pretty hot, but I'd reckon that isn't the reason.  Is it the lack of an actual gay male superstar?

Bowie makes crap music these days.

The man is almost dead; he makes virtually no music these days.  The last album he released was Reality in 2003, and while it wasn't very good, Heathen from the previous year was pretty great.  He made The Pixies fucking listenable, for a change.  (Just kidding, but the original version of "Cactus" did suck.  Also, "Slow Burn" is probably the second best Bowie song period, after "Life on Mars" and tied with "Five Years."  Kinda weird that they're separated by about thirty years, though.)
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 17, 2011, 08:32:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S08KonZiew4

Sounds like this album will be good for forgettable dance tracks.  Will I be purchasing next week? But of course. :lol:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Caliga on May 17, 2011, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on May 07, 2011, 11:19:26 AM
Korea seems nice to me.
Seemed nice to me too.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: 11B4V on May 17, 2011, 08:59:50 PM
Quote from: Syt on May 06, 2011, 07:27:39 AM
The only Judas-related music act worth mentioning:

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fde%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fba%2FJudas_priest_logo.svg%2F550px-Judas_priest_logo.svg.png&hash=4c546e9c5117950c3305eddb085e441319fe2719)

Seconded. I think I will listen to "SWoD".
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Caliga on May 17, 2011, 09:09:24 PM
The Ripper :punk:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Neil on May 17, 2011, 09:12:27 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 07, 2011, 02:04:33 PM
While Gaga is a goddess.  Bow and worship infidel!
No, she's really not.  Take it from someone who is intimately familiar with the divine:  She's a flash in the pan who is good at marketing alienation.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Neil on May 17, 2011, 09:13:21 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on May 07, 2011, 11:15:26 PM
The man is almost dead; he makes virtually no music these days.  The last album he released was Reality in 2003, and while it wasn't very good, Heathen from the previous year was pretty great
Quoted for the fucking truth.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 24, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
So Gaga's record is out now. What is Grallon's comment?
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Pat on May 24, 2011, 12:23:59 PM
I don't like Lady Gaga, but I was impressed by the opening monologue of born this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV1FrqwZyKw

The good vs. evil thesis vs. antithesis = synthesis with the focus on the pendulum choice is a succint summary of the dialectic between the right and the left hemisphere, and it's impressing because it is probably stated independantly of the recent synthetical advances between neuroscience and history (though of course it has been known implicitly almost forever and has been stated explicitly by Hegel and others).
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 24, 2011, 03:37:41 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 24, 2011, 12:16:38 PM
So Gaga's record is out now. What is Grallon's comment?


I don't buy albums.  I listen to songs on YouTube and may or may not like them.  'Born this way' was good, 'Judas' fantastic, 'Edge of Glory' nostalgic.  For the rest of the album we shall see.



G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 24, 2011, 03:49:33 PM
Don't you have Spotify or equivalents in your Third World country? :console:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 28, 2011, 07:59:28 AM
Well I came to the rest of the album on YouTube again.

Most of these songs are insanely catchy!



G.

-----

Personal favorites:

Bloody Mary

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwmKL5OL-Q&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFwmKL5OL-Q&feature=related)

Government Hooker

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8uMXyxvbKA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8uMXyxvbKA)

Scheiße

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNi9nIXxVo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sNi9nIXxVo&feature=related)
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 28, 2011, 08:14:25 AM
Catchy? I will never understand the gay mind.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Neil on May 28, 2011, 08:34:29 AM
Some people seem to like that sort of thing.  Grallon isn't Martinus, and so doesn't fall into the same 'it's gay and so therefore good' trap.  He's just got pedestrian tastes.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 28, 2011, 08:39:47 AM
Quote from: The Brain on May 28, 2011, 08:14:25 AM
Catchy? I will never understand the gay mind.


:lol:  It's the drama - her entire musical corpus is suffused with it. 

That's why it was love at first sight when I stumbled upon 'Judas'.  In that clip she appears as Mary-Magdalene but more importantly as consort of Jesus - therefore his equal.  When I say 'she's a goddess' I mean it - she's playing with religious symbolism, weaving it about herself with maestria.  Where Madonna criticized religion - therefore appearing subversive - Gaga embraces it - therefore attempting to transcend the role of mere pop icon.

She's making herself both the Idol to be worshiped and the High Priestess of that new cult ( the Mother Monster ethos, the Gaga hook repeated like a mantra in most of her songs, the steaming sexuality laced in ).  All of it teems with pagan vibes.

Is it conscious on her part?  I don't know but I think it's fascinating to watch.




G.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Slargos on May 28, 2011, 09:48:55 AM
"Pagan vibes" :bleeding:


Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 28, 2011, 10:19:13 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 17, 2011, 08:32:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S08KonZiew4

Sounds like this album will be good for forgettable dance tracks.  Will I be purchasing next week? But of course. :lol:

Revised position : a do not buy (/I haven't bought it)

From what I've heard of the tracks on e-bay youtube, she seems to have lost the sense of pop and gone on to create these elaborately constructed, not fun "art" tracks. Crap. :(

*edit: don't know where my head was at when I wrote e-bay :blush:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: The Brain on May 28, 2011, 10:23:50 AM
Yeah the whole record is a snorefest. Catchy? Anything but.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Zoupa on May 30, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
I just clicked the link in the OP.

That was just terrible. Couldn't get past 45 seconds, tops. Who cares about the video when the music is shit and hurts your ears.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: johnbriner on May 30, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
She's on again! Her videos were all done in a perfect way, I mean nice prod! She's really into making music videos, that's why when Lady Gaga, it is her videos I can imagine!
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Jacob on May 30, 2011, 12:56:21 PM
A signature spam-bot?
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2011, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: Grallon on May 28, 2011, 08:39:47 AM
In that clip she appears as Mary-Magdalene but more importantly as consort of Jesus - therefore his equal.

Consorts, like apostles, are not equals. 

QuoteWhen I say 'she's a goddess' I mean it - she's playing with religious symbolism, weaving it about herself with maestria.  Where Madonna criticized religion - therefore appearing subversive - Gaga embraces it - therefore attempting to transcend the role of mere pop icon.

Your analysis is as misguided as your politics.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on May 30, 2011, 12:36:24 PM
I just clicked the link in the OP.

I refuse.
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: jamesww on May 30, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
I saw her on the Graham Norton show, and the somewhat gay leaning audience went mental for here, even before she'd done, sung or said anything. :yawn:
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: Grallon on May 30, 2011, 03:52:07 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 30, 2011, 03:04:23 PM

Your analysis is as misguided as your politics.


:lol: My analysis is right on cue.


You really should listen to 'Bloody Mary' - it's even better than 'Judas'.  All the tracks of the album have now been released in audio clips.  I can't wait to see her next video clip. *squee*  :P




G.

Title: Re: Judas
Post by: garbon on May 30, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: jamesww on May 30, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
I saw her on the Graham Norton show, and the somewhat gay leaning audience went mental for here, even before she'd done, sung or said anything. :yawn:

Omg, some excitable audience members got excited. :o
Title: Re: Judas
Post by: jamesww on May 30, 2011, 04:43:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 30, 2011, 04:29:08 PM
Quote from: jamesww on May 30, 2011, 03:27:27 PM
I saw her on the Graham Norton show, and the somewhat gay leaning audience went mental for here, even before she'd done, sung or said anything. :yawn:

Omg, some excitable audience members got excited. :o

We're talking about  :bowler: audiences.  ;)