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Title: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:16:05 PM
always run to see what happened when they here a gunshot? :huh:
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
The black ones don't.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: MadImmortalMan on April 13, 2011, 10:18:53 PM
Thread over.  :lol:
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
The black ones don't.

False. I've seen more than enough black people on Law & Order run towards gunshots.  I pegged it as unrealistic. -_-
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:17:28 PM
The black ones don't.

False. I've seen more than enough black people on Law & Order run towards gunshots.  I pegged it as unrealistic. -_-

That's because the only black people on Law & Order are the cops.  Talk about fiction writing.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
That's because the only black people on Law & Order are the cops.  Talk about fiction writing.

:huh:

Law & Order loves to explore the lives of black people in fictional places with whimsical names like Harlem, The Bronx and Queens. An often repeated scene is some black minister declaring how the cops would be trying harder if it was a dead white kid/woman.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
That's because the only black people on Law & Order are the cops.  Talk about fiction writing.

:huh:

Law & Order loves to explore the lives of black people in fictional places with whimsical names like Harlem, The Bronx and Queens. An often repeated scene is some black minister declaring how the cops would be trying harder if it was a dead white kid/woman.

I dunno, I often lose that track of that stuff to Munch's ocassional anti-Republican pot shots.  But I do so love that Ice T.  So glad he's got work. :wub:

And yes, this just in: cops will always work harder for dead white kids/women.  It's just the way it is.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: viper37 on April 13, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:16:05 PM
always run to see what happened when they here a gunshot? :huh:
in tv shows, every one has a gun, where as in reality, 25% of the US population owns 200% of the guns ;)
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
I dunno, I often lose that track of that stuff to Munch's ocassional anti-Republican pot shots.  But I do so love that Ice T.  So glad he's got work. :wub:

Were you a fan of Homicide: Life On The Street? :x
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 11:02:54 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:49:26 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:36:13 PM
I dunno, I often lose that track of that stuff to Munch's ocassional anti-Republican pot shots.  But I do so love that Ice T.  So glad he's got work. :wub:

Were you a fan of Homicide: Life On The Street? :x

:ph34r:
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Strix on April 13, 2011, 11:05:08 PM
In Rochester they don't do anything when they hear gunshots. It's normal everyday sounds to them.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 13, 2011, 11:23:05 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:16:05 PM
always run to see what happened when they here a gunshot? :huh:

Usually the characters in that situation are cops, soldiers or adventurers.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 12:56:39 AM
Dead bodies are cool.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 14, 2011, 01:18:24 AM
I loved "Homicide" but I've never felt like watching "The Wire." 

In Philadelphia, I never went running towards gunshots, which were infrequent in my neighborhood, but all the time in West Phillly.

But when those flashing lights would show up on my block, I'd hid behind the curtains and watch.  One time they were coming for my next door neighbor.  I happened to be up and sipping heavily on vermouth when the middle brother went crazy... hearing through the walls, I think it had to do with milk expiration dates... next thing the two other brothers were restraining him against the fence to the alley, while he howled like a loon... and I wandered out to my concrete back lot and asked "Is everything alright here?"  One brother said "No!  Call the cops!"  I debated this for a little while, but the cops were there soon enough.  By then, all my roommates had been woken up from the screaming and lights, and we laid low.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 01:59:20 AM
Actually, I always went out on the balcony whenever there gunshots from the now-defunct dance club across the street.  At least I did, till I got indirectly maced from fifty feet away.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Brazen on April 14, 2011, 04:02:27 AM
What winds me up is no-one ever says goodbye when they end a phone call on TV or in movies. Never.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Slargos on April 14, 2011, 04:12:01 AM
Quote from: Brazen on April 14, 2011, 04:02:27 AM
What winds me up is no-one ever says goodbye when they end a phone call on TV or in movies. Never.

They do.

When they're about to do something they are pretty sure will kill them. I lends it an ominous tone.

Also as part of a game of "no, you hang up"

Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2011, 04:53:01 AM
Quote from: Slargos on April 14, 2011, 04:12:01 AMAlso as part of a game of "no, you hang up"

I always win that one.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Josquius on April 14, 2011, 04:59:45 AM
Cameras add 20 pounds and subtract 20 iq points
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Grey Fox on April 14, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
I've never heard a real gun shot. :unsure:
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2011, 06:17:44 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 14, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
I've never heard a real gun shot. :unsure:

Then you've never lived.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: The Larch on April 14, 2011, 06:25:25 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 14, 2011, 01:18:24 AM
I loved "Homicide" but I've never felt like watching "The Wire."

You should, it's great.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: dps on April 14, 2011, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 13, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:16:05 PM
always run to see what happened when they here a gunshot? :huh:
in tv shows, every one has a gun, where as in reality, 25% of the US population owns 200% of the guns ;)

I'm not sure if this is a troll, a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt at a joke, or what (given the wink smilie, I'm guessing an attempt at a joke), but gun ownership is probably more along the lines of 50% rather than 25%.  Actually, I suspect that it's a bit higher than 50%, probably closer to 60%.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: ulmont on April 14, 2011, 12:52:17 PM
Quote from: dps on April 14, 2011, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: viper37 on April 13, 2011, 10:36:40 PM
in tv shows, every one has a gun, where as in reality, 25% of the US population owns 200% of the guns ;)

I'm not sure if this is a troll, a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt at a joke, or what (given the wink smilie, I'm guessing an attempt at a joke), but gun ownership is probably more along the lines of 50% rather than 25%.  Actually, I suspect that it's a bit higher than 50%, probably closer to 60%.

No. 

Quotedata from the 1994 telephone survey (National Survey of Private Ownership of Firearms—NSPOF) indicate
that just 35 percent (plus or minus 1.3 percent) of households own guns.
http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles/165476.pdf

Quote39 Percentage of Americans reporting a gun in their home
http://reason.com/archives/2001/05/01/gun-ownership-the-numbers

Quote25 percent of all adults, and 40 percent of American households, own at least one firearm.
http://www.ojjdp.gov/pubs/gun_violence/sect01.html
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: dps on April 14, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
40% is closer to 50% than it is to 25%, but I'm guessing that there is some under-reporting of gun ownership.  Not so much for criminal reasons, but I figure that there are households where someone owns a gun that they're not telling the rest of the household about, and others where they have granddad's old hunting rifle up in the attic somewhere, but forget about it when someone asks if they have a firearm in the house.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: ulmont on April 14, 2011, 03:51:07 PM
Quote from: dps on April 14, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
40% is closer to 50% than it is to 25%

But is not "a bit higher than 50%, probably closer to 60%."  Also note that the only source which went down to "adults" rather than "households" found only 25% of adults reporting as gun owners.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Siege on April 14, 2011, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 12:56:39 AM
Dead bodies are cool.

No they are not.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Razgovory on April 14, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 14, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
I've never heard a real gun shot. :unsure:

Really?  That's weird.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Razgovory on April 14, 2011, 05:12:52 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 14, 2011, 04:46:11 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on April 14, 2011, 12:56:39 AM
Dead bodies are cool.

No they are not.

It's really, weird.  They stop looking like people.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: The Minsky Moment on April 14, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
That's because the only black people on Law & Order are the cops.  Talk about fiction writing.

:huh:

Law & Order loves to explore the lives of black people in fictional places with whimsical names like Harlem, The Bronx and Queens.

Must be a Dutch writer on the show . . .
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Siege on April 14, 2011, 07:35:07 PM
TV is made for the lowest common denominator.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Caliga on April 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I hear gunshots all the time.  But a human is shot here maybe once a decade.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 14, 2011, 08:39:56 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I hear gunshots all the time.  But a human is shot here maybe once a decade.

Let's hear it for shooting the beer bottles off the top of the primer gray bitchin Camaro under the tarp back behind the trailer then.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Ed Anger on April 14, 2011, 08:44:45 PM
Quoteprimer gray bitchin Camaro

I knew a guy who had one. It was an awesome car. I kept offering him money for it but he was stubborn. Then he put it into a chain link fence and boy, was his face red.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: garbon on April 14, 2011, 09:44:28 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 14, 2011, 05:21:33 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2011, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2011, 10:27:12 PM
That's because the only black people on Law & Order are the cops.  Talk about fiction writing.

:huh:

Law & Order loves to explore the lives of black people in fictional places with whimsical names like Harlem, The Bronx and Queens.

Must be a Dutch writer on the show . . .

I've heard them talk a few times about a place named Brighton Beach and Russians. Who comes up with this stuff?
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Iormlund on April 15, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 14, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 14, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
I've never heard a real gun shot. :unsure:

Really?  That's weird.
Not really. Unless you go hunting or enlist the chances of hearing one over here are virtually nil as well.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Malthus on April 15, 2011, 01:24:37 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on April 15, 2011, 01:20:04 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 14, 2011, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 14, 2011, 06:16:34 AM
I've never heard a real gun shot. :unsure:

Really?  That's weird.
Not really. Unless you go hunting or enlist the chances of hearing one over here are virtually nil as well.

You have to basically never go into the country. I hear gunshots pretty well every other week, up at the cottage - mostly, folks shooting tin cans, or hunting.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Eddie Teach on April 15, 2011, 01:31:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I hear gunshots all the time.  But a human is shot here maybe once a decade.

Justified would have us believe otherwise.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Siege on April 15, 2011, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I hear gunshots all the time.  But a human is shot here maybe once a decade.

They need some combat training.
I'll start with basic marksmanship and individual movement techniques, and then move on to team movement techniques and tactics, and live fire exercises.

Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: The Brain on April 15, 2011, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: Siege on April 15, 2011, 03:21:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 14, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
I hear gunshots all the time.  But a human is shot here maybe once a decade.

They need some combat training.
I'll start with basic marksmanship and individual movement techniques, and then move on to team movement techniques and tactics, and live fire exercises.

^_^
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Iormlund on April 16, 2011, 03:46:28 AM
Quote from: Malthus on April 15, 2011, 01:24:37 PM
You have to basically never go into the country. I hear gunshots pretty well every other week, up at the cottage - mostly, folks shooting tin cans, or hunting.
I've lived in a couple small villages a few miles off the city and still can't remember hearing a single shot even though my next door neighbor was a hunter. It is probably different on remote rural areas. IIRC you can only shoot (or even carry loaded) weapons in specially designated zones.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: citizen k on April 16, 2011, 05:06:01 AM
Quote from: Iormlund on April 16, 2011, 03:46:28 AMIIRC you can only shoot (or even carry loaded) weapons in specially designated zones.

In the U.S. we have specially designated zones for not carrying weapons.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2011, 07:32:53 AM
I recently noticed signs up at my bank and work place prohibiting fire arms.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2011, 07:32:53 AM
I recently noticed signs up at my bank and work place prohibiting fire arms.

Unfortunately, morons need to be reminded.  But ohnoes, that's Nanny statism.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2011, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
Unfortunately, morons need to be reminded.  But ohnoes, that's Nanny statism.

:huh:  Neither my bank nor my employer are owned by the government.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2011, 07:43:14 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 16, 2011, 07:38:49 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2011, 07:37:09 AM
Unfortunately, morons need to be reminded.  But ohnoes, that's Nanny statism.

:huh:  Neither my bank nor my employer are owned by the government.

Good.  Then you don't have to fear them.
Title: Re: Why do characters on tv...
Post by: Ed Anger on April 16, 2011, 08:03:26 AM
I like the occasional news story of some jackoff bringing a weapon into a federal building.