Robert Harper, born in Belfast in 1717... why oh why did you have to emigrate to Philadelphia in 1727 and ultimately become my great great great great great great grandfather!? :weep:
Ok, that's it... I'm not doing any more genealogy work. :mad:
Only thing you can do on receipt of news like that is go get blind drunk.
:hmm:
If he came from Belfast perhaps he was: Protestant?
Some of these things don't seem to go well together:
QuoteRobert Harper, being forced by persecution to flee from his home in Ireland , secured passage to Philadelphia by becoming an indentured servant to John Buzby, a wealthy Quaker of Oxford Township. He died in 1765 in Philadelphia County, Pa.. He died possessed of a considerable fortune He was living in Oxford Twp.. He was an Iron Worker in Frankford, Montgomery County, Pa.. He was Scotch-Irish.
if you start calling yourself irish-american i'm gonna hint your ass down and kick you in the nuts <_< :P
Scots Irish isn't Irish. :mad: :scots:
Though I believe I have a touch of Irish Irish too.
I recently found out my son is descended from Swedes :(
I should have researched the origin of my wife's maiden name.
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2011, 07:32:44 PM
by becoming an indentured servant to John Buzby,
Hey, that's Tonitrus' great great great great great great grandfather! lulz pwn3d.
I'm descended from the Busby/Buzby family as well. Harper married one of their daughters. Despite being an indentured servant, he was incredibly HOTT like all of his male descendants, so he was able to marry up. :)
I'd guess he was a prod. The Anglicans in Ireland liked picking on Calvinists (which the Church of Scotland is) and various other unorthodox protestants just the same as catholics.
How are you doing this BTW? I've always fancied looking into mine.
Quote from: Tyr on April 10, 2011, 07:50:34 PM
I'd guess he was a prod. The Anglicans liked picking on Calvinists (which the Church of Scotland is) and various other unorthodox protestants just the same as catholics.
How are you doing this BTW? I've always fancied looking into mine.
Ancestry.com has zillions of records in their database from all over. But you have to pay a bit of money. But it is a hell of a lot cheaper than getting access to each on its own. Also simply putting names into Google or Google books can have suprising results to. So many histories of obscure parts of England are published on google books for free and I found that very useful.
I have been collecting geneaology crap on and off most of my life, and lately I've been using LOL INTERNETS to fill in some of the gaps.
Without going into too much detail, I have ancestry stemming from the following families in the following locales in Britain and on the Continent:
Busby of (Great?) Tew, Oxfordshire, England
Chateau of Charleville, Champagne, France
Eaton of Llewgoogoogaga (or something like that), Radnorshire, Wales
Harper of Belfast, County Antrim, Ireland
Hausele of Bad Kreuznach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Leichtweis of Bad Kreuznach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Lynn of Glanbrücken, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Marjorum of Cheverell, Wiltshire, England
Sheibley of Canton Basel, Switzerland
Watts of Leeds, Maidstone, Kent, England
Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
Ancestry.com has zillions of records in their database from all over. But you have to pay a bit of money. But it is a hell of a lot cheaper than getting access to each on its own. Also simply putting names into Google or Google books can have suprising results to. So many histories of obscure parts of England are published on google books for free and I found that very useful.
I don't pay for Ancestry.com. It's a giant ripoff because, like you said, you can easily find most of the same stuff for free.
ACW records are free for access on ancestry.com until April 14.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 07:42:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2011, 07:32:44 PM
by becoming an indentured servant to John Buzby,
Hey, that's Tonitrus' great great great great great great grandfather! lulz pwn3d.
:huh:
You seriously have to work with me on those things, Tonitrus. IMMA THROWING BUT YOU AINT A-SWINGIN SON
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 10, 2011, 08:58:37 PM
You seriously have to work with me on those things, Tonitrus. IMMA THROWING BUT YOU AINT A-SWINGIN SON
That's like throwing at a batter who is sleeping in the dugout. :lol:
That actually sounds like something CdM would do.
That's what happens when you dig in at the plate. Or anywhere else.
I had Irish ancestors I believe. They seemed to have been involved in the same business as my current Italian relatives. <_<
Belfast?
So you have the Good kind of Irish roots. :hug:
<----- 3/8th Good Irish.
Yes, I suppose I can still: wear orange on St. Patrick's Day. :cool:
In the 18th Century, if he was persecuted it was probably because he was a Presbyterian under the penal laws.
Yeah he was probably a non-Anglican Protestant.
Read about the United Irishmen Rebellion of 1798 for more information:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Rebellion_of_1798
I can't mock the irish either since I too have Irish ancestry back in the 1850's.. sorry, 850's I have some ancestors without patronyms with christian first names (almost certainly christian Irish slaves of Viking masters). Apart from that my ancestry consists of "Firstname Firstnamesson, born Iceland" for 30 generations with the exception of one danish woman entering (polluting) my gene pool back in the 17th century.
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2011, 08:11:30 PM
I have been collecting geneaology crap on and off most of my life, and lately I've been using LOL INTERNETS to fill in some of the gaps.
Without going into too much detail, I have ancestry stemming from the following families in the following locales in Britain and on the Continent:
Busby of (Great?) Tew, Oxfordshire, England
Chateau of Charleville, Champagne, France
Eaton of Llewgoogoogaga (or something like that), Radnorshire, Wales
Harper of Belfast, County Antrim, Ireland
Hausele of Bad Kreuznach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Leichtweis of Bad Kreuznach, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Lynn of Glanbrücken, Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany
Marjorum of Cheverell, Wiltshire, England
Sheibley of Canton Basel, Switzerland
Watts of Leeds, Maidstone, Kent, England
Somebody has a crop of kraut in their background. :)
Mine came from Baden.
That would be my poor Palatine/Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry. AFAIK all of them were in Pennsylvania prior to 1750. Before that they were in England, where the English weren't sure what to do with them because, although there were fellow Protestants, they had no useful skills. :blush: Before that, they were in the Rhineland, Alsace, and Switzerland getting repeatedly raped by French armies under Louis XIV. :(
Quote from: Brazen on April 11, 2011, 06:06:23 AM
In the 18th Century, if he was persecuted it was probably because he was a Presbyterian under the penal laws.
All I really know from the record is that he was "not a Quaker" when he arrived.
I do happen to know that there were a number of Scots-Irish in Ulster prior to the Revolution who ended up in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. My high school was named for Rev. William Tennent, who was one such Scots-Irish Presbyterian. One of his sons founded Princeton as a Presbyterian seminary originally.
Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2011, 07:38:41 PM
I recently found out my son is descended from Swedes :(
I should have researched the origin of my wife's maiden name.
gz
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2011, 08:12:27 PM
Quote from: Valmy on April 10, 2011, 07:57:34 PM
Ancestry.com has zillions of records in their database from all over. But you have to pay a bit of money. But it is a hell of a lot cheaper than getting access to each on its own. Also simply putting names into Google or Google books can have suprising results to. So many histories of obscure parts of England are published on google books for free and I found that very useful.
I don't pay for Ancestry.com. It's a giant ripoff because, like you said, you can easily find most of the same stuff for free.
I've been rather poor at this. I haven't managed to get past my great-great grandfather from DC who went to Stanford. :blush:
I wish I could trace my dad's ancestry back, but you hit a gigantic brick wall as soon as you go to the old country. WWII was pretty good at destroying all those records in Austria/Poland/Ukraine/wherever...
You Americans have so much fun doing genealogy, since you find that you have relatives from all over Europe. All we can hope to prove is that we have less consanguinity a few generations back, than those peasants from the next village.
I got high grade DNA. Non-inbred Nordic. As if my skull and intelligence didn't convince you.
Quote from: Caliga on April 10, 2011, 07:29:22 PM
Robert Harper, born in Belfast in 1717... why oh why did you have to emigrate to Philadelphia in 1727 and ultimately become my great great great great great great grandfather!? :weep:
Ok, that's it... I'm not doing any more genealogy work. :mad:
:nelson:
edit: I have a smattering of Scots-Irish mixed in with my grandma's Scottish background (Clan McAlpine representin'), but I prefer to think they were just all Scots who temporarily lived in Ireland.
Church records for my Y chromosome lineage only go back 10 generations for me. After that it's down to annals, self-serving geneaologies and eventually, sagas.
Quote from: Legbiter on April 11, 2011, 05:49:28 PM
Church records for my Y chromosome lineage only go back 10 generations for me. After that it's down to annals, self-serving geneaologies and eventually, sagas.
I thought you were too plebian for me.... meh...
Quote from: Viking on April 11, 2011, 05:56:58 PM
I thought you were too plebian for me.... meh...
Church records here usually don't go much further than the 18th. century. Having 10 generations of them is fairly rare.
You puffin fucking Westman Islands inbred. ;)
Quote from: Legbiter on April 11, 2011, 06:28:41 PM
Quote from: Viking on April 11, 2011, 05:56:58 PM
I thought you were too plebian for me.... meh...
Church records here usually don't go much further than the 18th. century. Having 10 generations of them is fairly rare.
You puffin fucking Westman Islands inbred. ;)
Actually, my family only goes back 4 generations on the westman islands.. the bulk of my family is from the westfjords.
haven't you looked in islendingabok.is?