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Title: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: jimmy olsen on March 29, 2011, 11:54:51 PM
Sounds pretty sweet.  :cool:

http://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/03/29/6370186-la-noire-to-be-first-game-screened-at-tribeca-film-fest
Quote'L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Fest

Rockstar Games

By Winda Benedetti

Movie critic Roger Ebert may believe that video games will never be able to deliver the high falutin' high art displayed by our finest films, but for the first time ever a video game is being allowed to join the prestigious cinematic ranks at the Tribeca Film Festival.

The Tribeca Film Festival — founded by actor Robert De Niro — announced Tuesday that the forthcoming Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 game "L.A. Noire" will be given a special "interactive screening," followed by a question-and-answer session that focuses on the very busy crossroads where games and film meet.

Team Bondi and Rockstar Games (the makers of the famed "Grand Theft Auto" franchise) are developing "L.A. Noire" — an open-world crime thriller done in gritty, film noir style.

"L.A. Noire" launches on May 17 and is being touted as a first-of-its-kind video game, thanks not only to the unique facial capture technology the developers are using to make the digital actors look more realistic than ever, but also for the way it merges cinematic storytelling from the 1940s and 50s with some very modern crime-solving gameplay.

"What Rockstar and Team Bondi have accomplished with 'L.A. Noire' is nothing less than groundbreaking," said Geoff Gilmore, Tribeca's Chief Creative Officer. "It's an invention of a new realm of storytelling that is part cinema, part gaming, and a whole new realm of narrative expression, interactivity, and immersion. We are poised on the edge of a new frontier."

As Rockstar has explained it, the game will give players "an unprecedented interactive experience" in which you play out the story of a young detective's rise to prominence in the LAPD. To do so, you'll have to solve historically inspired crimes in a fully-interactive recreation of 1947 Los Angeles.

The screening — which will show off one of the crime cases players must solve — will take place April 25 and will include a discussion about "the video game, the technology behind it, and narrative and action in this medium." (For more information and tickets, check out the site here.)

"We're thrilled that 'L.A. Noire' is being recognized by the Tribeca Film Festival in this way," said Sam Houser, founder of Rockstar Games, in a statement. "It's a real honor, and another step forward for interactive entertainment."

Indeed, those of us who've played games over the years have watched as video games and film have learned from each other and moved closer toward one another in both narrative and visual style. Rockstar's last game — the excellent "Red Dead Redemption" — gave us a fresh new take on a Wild West most of us know best from watching old Clint Eastwood and John Wayne films. Personally, I can't wait to see what they do with the film noir genre.

Certainly the Tribeca screening should help put a much-deserved spotlight on just how creative, stunning and, yes, even artistic modern video games can be.

One can only hope Ebert will be in attendance.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Habbaku on March 29, 2011, 11:56:20 PM
Tainted.  :(
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 13, 2011, 11:36:46 PM
I'm tempted to buy an X-box just for this.

http://kotaku.com/5756015/solving-the-mystery-of-la-noires-gameplay
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: sbr on May 14, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
I'm confused.  You necro'ed a 6 week old thread to post a link to a 13 week old article?   :huh:

We should invite the 2 jokers that had the innane conversation in the comments section here, though Teran would have to find a new schtick, that one is already taken here.

Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on May 14, 2011, 03:11:53 AM
Forget it Sbr, it is Timmay.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 14, 2011, 03:45:31 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 14, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
I'm confused.  You necro'ed a 6 week old thread to post a link to a 13 week old article?   :huh:

We should invite the 2 jokers that had the innane conversation in the comments section here, though Teran would have to find a new schtick, that one is already taken here.
I don't care about the article, I care about the trailer. A trailer which hasn't been posted in this forum yet.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 05:33:59 AM
[nitpick]Then why quote the article?[/nitpick]
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Josquius on May 14, 2011, 07:00:26 AM
Its being advertised on TV rather a lot.
Wish I had a sex-box.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 10:12:11 AM
:w00t: That looks OSSUM!

...and I do have an Xbox 360. :showoff:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Liep on May 14, 2011, 12:29:07 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:

Stop worrying, this can only be good. :yes:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
I don't taint shit. :wacko:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: grumbler on May 14, 2011, 08:27:09 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
I don't taint shit. :wacko:
No, but you taint everything else. :contract:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: jimmy olsen on May 15, 2011, 02:18:58 AM
Guardian posted their review early by accident, but Google cache caught it.
review (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?hl=en-gb&oe=UTF-8&q=cache:9EjXLNHmP_gJ:www.guardian.co.uk/technology/gamesblog/2011/may/13/la-noire-game-review)
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Norgy on May 15, 2011, 04:02:48 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
I don't taint shit. :wacko:

Yes, you do. You have tainted big boobs. Now they are no longer fun.  <_<
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on May 15, 2011, 10:54:00 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 15, 2011, 04:02:48 AM
Yes, you do. You have tainted big boobs. Now they are no longer fun.  <_<
No... no... that's not true.... that's IMPOSSIBLE!
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Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Barrister on May 15, 2011, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 15, 2011, 04:02:48 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
I don't taint shit. :wacko:

Yes, you do. You have tainted big boobs. Now they are no longer fun.  <_<

I have to respectfully disagree.  Big boobs will always be fun. -_-
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Syt on May 20, 2011, 10:46:45 PM
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Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Octavian on May 21, 2011, 12:38:46 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 15, 2011, 11:16:17 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 15, 2011, 04:02:48 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 14, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
Quote from: Norgy on May 14, 2011, 12:22:01 PM
Stop tainting it!  :mad:
I don't taint shit. :wacko:

Yes, you do. You have tainted big boobs. Now they are no longer fun.  <_<

I have to respectfully disagree.  Big boobs will always be fun. -_-
:hmm:


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Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Norgy on May 21, 2011, 07:15:15 AM
Reviews say: Tainted.  <_<
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2011, 07:23:52 AM
Quote from: Barrister on May 15, 2011, 11:16:17 AM
I have to respectfully disagree.  Big boobs will always be fun. -_-
:cool:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on May 21, 2011, 07:24:26 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 21, 2011, 07:15:15 AM
Reviews say: Tainted.  <_<
:(
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Norgy on May 21, 2011, 08:37:21 AM
Quote from: Caliga on May 21, 2011, 07:24:26 AM
Quote from: Norgy on May 21, 2011, 07:15:15 AM
Reviews say: Tainted.  <_<
:(

I don't think it's your fault, rather the scope and ambitions of the game being seriously hampered by it being a video game...

But when the big game sites do not drool and rave over this, it can only mean it's mediocre. I recieved my copy yesterday, but feel little or no incentive to fire it up and try. It'll be Alan Wake again.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Camerus on May 21, 2011, 09:16:54 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 14, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
We should invite the 2 jokers that had the innane conversation in the comments section here, though Teran would have to find a new schtick, that one is already taken here.

Indeed.   :lol:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 21, 2011, 12:35:26 PM
Sounds like playing the cop side of Law & Order. I could dig but not at $60.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Syt on May 21, 2011, 01:15:33 PM
Yeah, I guess I'll wait till it's in the bargain bin.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 05:54:41 PM
Quote from: Pitiful Pathos on May 21, 2011, 09:16:54 AM
Quote from: sbr on May 14, 2011, 12:35:43 AM
We should invite the 2 jokers that had the innane conversation in the comments section here, though Teran would have to find a new schtick, that one is already taken here.

Indeed.   :lol:
Actually, I just assume that "Viking" was already taken on that forum and he couldn't spell "Tehran."  :cool:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Josquius on May 21, 2011, 09:49:20 PM
It sucks?
Aww...I knew it couldn't get anywhere near the hype but I was hoping for something decent at least. Like Farenheight maybe. The start of it anyway.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: grumbler on May 21, 2011, 09:55:24 PM
Quote from: Tyr on May 21, 2011, 09:49:20 PM
It sucks?
Aww...I knew it couldn't get anywhere near the hype but I was hoping for something decent at least. Like Farenheight maybe. The start of it anyway.
I don't know from the reviews I have seen that it sucks.  I just don't think it wins any of the traditional accolades.  That can be good.

Lacking a console, I have no horse in the race, but it sounds fascinating to me, even if broken a bit.  Hell, we all are here because of fascinating but broken (a bit, or more) games.

I'll wait for reviews from people I trust.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: LaCroix on May 22, 2011, 01:30:30 AM
my roommate bought it, and so while i've not played it to completion i have seen some of it-

it kinda sucks. i mean, it's like they took a gta game with the linear storyline, removed or reduced the sandbox element and forced the player to play out missions ("cases") like some modern fps while pretending to be open-ended. there's no detective-work required; all you do is run around waiting for the controller to vibrate, press x, rinse and repeat for the crime scenes. interrogations are lame, the combat is no different from the rest of the rockstar games, and in general- feels like a waste of $60. there may be an intriguing storyline behind it, but if there is i never saw it
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Queequeg on May 22, 2011, 11:11:38 AM
The plot does end up getting pretty great.  I actually enjoyed it a lot; the combat mechanics weren't great, and I don't think it had that many pretenses to non-linearity, but as as a rather traditional adventure game I think it succeeded pretty well. 
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Barrister on May 22, 2011, 02:45:12 PM
I have bought it.  We'll see how it goes.  I'm a sucker for non-traditional game mechanics.   :blush:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on May 22, 2011, 09:12:54 PM
Yeah only reason i didn't pick it up yet was because leaving town for month so no chance to play it.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Scipio on May 22, 2011, 09:18:42 PM
Only reason I didn't pick it up is because these fuckers won't do a PC release for it.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on May 23, 2011, 12:55:00 PM
I played through it a bit this weekend.  It's a pretty solid game overall; maybe not quite the 9 out of 10 that Gamespot gave it, but at least a solid 8.  The presentation & cutscenes are great and the scenery is amazing.  The gameplay for the investigative parts is good, if somewhat simplistic.  I'm having some difficulty on some of the interviews/interrogations, and I don't know if that's due to me just not getting the hang of it just yet or if the "right" guesses are just that arbitrary.

The driving part is better than I thought it would be, and I like that you can have your partner drive to far-away destinations (which saves time since it skips directly to the destination).  Fighting/shooting is pretty standard GTA.

Some things I don't like:
-too linear.  You can do side missions, but the main storyline forces you along a single track.

-3 discs for the Xbox 360 version.  Not a huge deal since you only have to change discs twice if you're simply doing one playthrough, but it would have been nice if they at least let you rip all 3 discs to the hard drive and play off of disc 1 the entire time.  The PS3 version comes on one nice, neat single blu-ray disc, of course.

-the game is set in 1947 & it makes it sound as if all WWII veterans became drug addicts, wife beaters, murderers, or hobos (or in one single case, a brilliant police detective) due to the war.


I think it's a good game overall, and I think it goes about as far as it can for a detective game on a console.  But I think it's replayability is going to be absolute crap compared to GTA or Red Dead Redemption.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 29, 2011, 08:17:05 PM
Broke down and bought it today as I realized I had a gift card.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 30, 2011, 12:41:17 AM
So very entertaining, but like D said, I don't think there would be much past one run through.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on May 30, 2011, 01:44:13 AM
They are planning DLC for it no?
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
Quote from: katmai on May 30, 2011, 01:44:13 AM
They are planning DLC for it no?

Yeah-- and anyone who had pre-ordered from Gamestop already has the first two DLC cases.

I was not totally sold on the plot until the very end.  The cut-scene it shows after you sit through all the damned credits actually explains in more detail how it all started.

The one thing that happens at the end of the last Vice Desk case did annoy me, though.  I can't imagine that even in 1947 someone would have been treated like such a pariah for that.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 31, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
The one thing that happens at the end of the last Vice Desk case did annoy me, though.  I can't imagine that even in 1947 someone would have been treated like such a pariah for that.

Yeah, I just got to arson and that vice thing was rather annoying.  Although moving to vice was annoying - I was horrible an interview vice witnesses/suspects. :blush:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 04:18:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 03:16:31 PM
Yeah, I just got to arson and that vice thing was rather annoying.  Although moving to vice was annoying - I was horrible an interview vice witnesses/suspects. :blush:

Vice annoyed me because of the partner.  The cases were pretty cool.  Interviewing in general is pretty damned annoying.  I think I got to the point where I could tell whether or not they were telling the truth, but distinguishing between doubt & lie got a little iffy.  Doubt seems to be the safest option if you're not sure.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 31, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 04:18:15 PM
Vice annoyed me because of the partner.  The cases were pretty cool.  Interviewing in general is pretty damned annoying.  I think I got to the point where I could tell whether or not they were telling the truth, but distinguishing between doubt & lie got a little iffy.  Doubt seems to be the safest option if you're not sure.

Yeah I miss the traffic partner although the homicide one grew on me.  I did like the much larger scale of the vice cases.  But yeah, I agree that doubt was generally the safe option. I also recognized the importance of checking what evidence I had - I always sort of assumed I could use the fact that I found the drugs/murder weapons in the possession of the suspect as evidence - but it often seemed not to qualify as proof when accusing them of lying. :(
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on May 31, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
I was not totally sold on the plot until the very end.  The cut-scene it shows after you sit through all the damned credits actually explains in more detail how it all started.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS


I thought the plot seemed to unravel by the end. Everyone is in on this great conspiracy. Assassins burst forth to attack in a record room at the Hall of Records? Way too many people were in on the conspiracy => referring to the real estate stuff, not the drugs.

Cole Phelps - Quite a dick in his behavior and really no explanation to the whole affair bit. Elsa wasn't all that.
Jack Kelso - Super dick! What did he think dumbass Sheldon would do once he was informed about the conspiracy? Sent him to his grave.

Why did they choose to have us play as Kelso in the last act? Woohoo, I'm an insurance investigator and I solve puzzles with an adding machine?! :w00t: :dgul:

Overall, fun game but it seemed to have jumped off the rails when rushing to the final conclusion.

*And why is Phelps considered a great detective? You spend most of the game putting away people for crimes that they didn't commit. :lol:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 01:00:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
*And why is Phelps considered a great detective? You spend most of the game putting away people for crimes that they didn't commit. :lol:

:hmm:  Beeb and Strix count any imprisonment as a win.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Barrister on June 01, 2011, 01:11:32 AM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 01:00:56 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
*And why is Phelps considered a great detective? You spend most of the game putting away people for crimes that they didn't commit. :lol:

:hmm:  Beeb and Strix count any imprisonment as a win.

I know you meant it as a joke, but...

fuck you.

I count nothing more, and nothing less, than convicting the guilty as a win.  I've literally ran down to the courthouse to order the release of the innocent from custody.

Jailing the innocent is just slightly bigger a sin as releasing the guilty.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah I miss the traffic partner although the homicide one grew on me.  I did like the much larger scale of the vice cases.  But yeah, I agree that doubt was generally the safe option. I also recognized the importance of checking what evidence I had - I always sort of assumed I could use the fact that I found the drugs/murder weapons in the possession of the suspect as evidence - but it often seemed not to qualify as proof when accusing them of lying. :(

My problem was that I was actually thinking the other way-- that none of my evidence was airtight enough to back up an accusation.

MINOR SPOILER

Like, for example, the dude who helped Mr. Black fake his own death.  The receipt that was in the trunk for a live pig did not IMO prove he was at the supposed crime scene.  It only proved that he bought the pig.

Also btw, wtf-- Mr. Black was 32 years old?  More like 52.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
I was not totally sold on the plot until the very end.  The cut-scene it shows after you sit through all the damned credits actually explains in more detail how it all started.

SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS


I thought the plot seemed to unravel by the end. Everyone is in on this great conspiracy. Assassins burst forth to attack in a record room at the Hall of Records? Way too many people were in on the conspiracy => referring to the real estate stuff, not the drugs.

The only thing that really bugged me around that part was the film you find that ties all the real estate investors together.  I guess I was also bugged by the tired old cliches of the evil amoral capitalist, paranoid anti-communists, etc.

QuoteCole Phelps - Quite a dick in his behavior and really no explanation to the whole affair bit. Elsa wasn't all that.

Elsa was not all that, but all the women in the game looked a little weird.  The face capture technology is awesome, but either the actresses they used were not the most attractive or the technology has a little way to go.  Anyway, I guess it left you to assume that opposites attract.  What annoyed me a lot more was how everyone was so repulsed by Phelps after word got out that he cheated on his wife with a German gal a couple years after the war.  People on the street even call him a crooked cop :huh:

QuoteJack Kelso - Super dick! What did he think dumbass Sheldon would do once he was informed about the conspiracy? Sent him to his grave.

Why did they choose to have us play as Kelso in the last act? Woohoo, I'm an insurance investigator and I solve puzzles with an adding machine?! :w00t: :dgul:

:lol:  Well he did start working for the DA (I honestly didn't know DAs had their own investigators) at a certain point.  I have a feeling they got him involved just to set him up as the main character in the sequel.

QuoteOverall, fun game but it seemed to have jumped off the rails when rushing to the final conclusion.

*And why is Phelps considered a great detective? You spend most of the game putting away people for crimes that they didn't commit. :lol:

He's smarter than all the other detectives.  But yeah, that just means he's the only one smart enough to get duped by the actual conspirators.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on June 01, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah I miss the traffic partner although the homicide one grew on me.  I did like the much larger scale of the vice cases.  But yeah, I agree that doubt was generally the safe option. I also recognized the importance of checking what evidence I had - I always sort of assumed I could use the fact that I found the drugs/murder weapons in the possession of the suspect as evidence - but it often seemed not to qualify as proof when accusing them of lying. :(

My problem was that I was actually thinking the other way-- that none of my evidence was airtight enough to back up an accusation.

MINOR SPOILER

Like, for example, the dude who helped Mr. Black fake his own death.  The receipt that was in the trunk for a live pig did not IMO prove he was at the supposed crime scene.  It only proved that he bought the pig.

Also btw, wtf-- Mr. Black was 32 years old?  More like 52.

True, true. It was odd that he folded when confronted with said "evidence."
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on June 01, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
The only thing that really bugged me around that part was the film you find that ties all the real estate investors together.  I guess I was also bugged by the tired old cliches of the evil amoral capitalist, paranoid anti-communists, etc.

True, I didn't understand why they would have filmed that meeting and then left it on display in a broken down warehouse.

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
Elsa was not all that, but all the women in the game looked a little weird.  The face capture technology is awesome, but either the actresses they used were not the most attractive or the technology has a little way to go.  Anyway, I guess it left you to assume that opposites attract.  What annoyed me a lot more was how everyone was so repulsed by Phelps after word got out that he cheated on his wife with a German gal a couple years after the war.  People on the street even call him a crooked cop :huh:

The crooked cop bit was funny. I was like the affair had nothing to do with his job!

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
:lol:  Well he did start working for the DA (I honestly didn't know DAs had their own investigators) at a certain point.  I have a feeling they got him involved just to set him up as the main character in the sequel.

Yeah that makes sense. Still didn't appreciate the transition as then when we saw evidence of fire starting stuff in the firebug's shack, Kelso had no reaction whereas Phelps would have.  I think I didn't like knowing way more than either character...which was also something disappointing about the newspaper sequences.

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
He's smarter than all the other detectives.  But yeah, that just means he's the only one smart enough to get duped by the actual conspirators.
Yeah he fell for all the evidence planted by the Black Dahlia killer. Actually I would have liked more info or at least background on that temp bartender.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3347-L-A-Noire
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Razgovory on June 01, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3347-L-A-Noire

I didn't know he put one out today.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: ulmont on June 01, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3347-L-A-Noire

I didn't know he put one out today.

Every Wednesday, although today's was late.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Razgovory on June 01, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: ulmont on June 01, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3347-L-A-Noire

I didn't know he put one out today.

Every Wednesday, although today's was late.

Yeah, I checked around noon and it wasn't there so I figured wasn't one today.  They guy does some good reviews when he isn't deliberately antagonizing his audience.  Only problem is that most of the games he plays and the ones I play are worlds apart.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on June 04, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Got this game earlier today.  I like it so far.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on June 06, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
I wonder why all of the women in the game look like crack whores. :hmm:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Kleves on June 07, 2011, 01:29:37 AM
I just finished it. It was enjoyable, but I think many of the things that spiess and garbon said are true. They seem to have over-reached a bit. It also would have been fun to have something to do between missions.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Jacob on June 10, 2011, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
I wonder why all of the women in the game look like crack whores. :hmm:

Rockstar does not believe in hot chicks.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on June 15, 2011, 09:16:06 PM
It also doesn't help that they keep turning up brutally murdered. :Embarrass:

Rockstar: misogynist? :)
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Josquius on June 20, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Is it this good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTOaFs40Vk&feature=feedu
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Razgovory on June 23, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 20, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
Is it this good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUTOaFs40Vk&feature=feedu


I admit some of that guys stuff is pretty funny.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3GzMPzGa1Y&feature=relmfu
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Habbaku on June 27, 2011, 10:31:14 PM
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Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on June 28, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I played the first DLC case last night.  I forget the name but it's in the Traffic desk.  Anyway, they have the tall goofy guy who was Rob Lowe's assistant in Wayne's World as a goofy used car salesman :)

Also, it still cracks me up how bloodthirsty the police captains are.  I'm sure they were less sensitive in 1947 to bad guys getting shot than they are today, but in the game it seems like the best possible outcome is always for the criminals to get gunned down :D
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on June 28, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
So back at home, should i get this game or what?
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on June 28, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I played the first DLC case last night.  I forget the name but it's in the Traffic desk.  Anyway, they have the tall goofy guy who was Rob Lowe's assistant in Wayne's World as a goofy used car salesman :)

Also, it still cracks me up how bloodthirsty the police captains are.  I'm sure they were less sensitive in 1947 to bad guys getting shot than they are today, but in the game it seems like the best possible outcome is always for the criminals to get gunned down :D

Oh I played that one. Was alright I guess.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Barrister on June 28, 2011, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 28, 2011, 03:52:01 PM
So back at home, should i get this game or what?

Depends how intrigued you are by the concept.

In the end it's not game of the year - the interviewing mechanism is wonky.  But as I said before I'm a sucker for innovative game concepts, so I don't regret my purchase one bit.

If you buy just one game this year though, don't make it LA Noire.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I'm tempted as my favorite genre of books are the old Chandler, Hammett works that are foundation on noire films.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on June 28, 2011, 05:28:32 PM
I like it and I think it's worth a purchase.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:29:07 PM
Thank you stinky carpetbagging cousin.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Caliga on June 28, 2011, 05:29:55 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:29:07 PM
Thank you stinky carpetbagging cousin.
I smell rather nice, thanks.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Barrister on June 28, 2011, 05:31:01 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I'm tempted as my favorite genre of books are the old Chandler, Hammett works that are foundation on noire films.

Then definitely get it.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:31:43 PM
I will my poor southern compatriot!
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on June 29, 2011, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: katmai on June 28, 2011, 05:27:52 PM
I'm tempted as my favorite genre of books are the old Chandler, Hammett works that are foundation on noire films.

It felt like it borrowed at least as much from LA Confidential as anything else, not that that's a bad thing in & of itself.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on June 29, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I played the first DLC case last night.  I forget the name but it's in the Traffic desk.  Anyway, they have the tall goofy guy who was Rob Lowe's assistant in Wayne's World as a goofy used car salesman :)

Also, it still cracks me up how bloodthirsty the police captains are.  I'm sure they were less sensitive in 1947 to bad guys getting shot than they are today, but in the game it seems like the best possible outcome is always for the criminals to get gunned down :D

Oh I played that one. Was alright I guess.

I totally screwed it up on the first playthrough.  Arrested the right guy but used the wrong evidence.  Also screwed around too much running to the Western Union office and missed out on interviewing the stupid broad.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on June 29, 2011, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 29, 2011, 03:59:39 PM
Quote from: garbon on June 28, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 28, 2011, 03:46:14 PM
I played the first DLC case last night.  I forget the name but it's in the Traffic desk.  Anyway, they have the tall goofy guy who was Rob Lowe's assistant in Wayne's World as a goofy used car salesman :)

Also, it still cracks me up how bloodthirsty the police captains are.  I'm sure they were less sensitive in 1947 to bad guys getting shot than they are today, but in the game it seems like the best possible outcome is always for the criminals to get gunned down :D

Oh I played that one. Was alright I guess.

I totally screwed it up on the first playthrough.  Arrested the right guy but used the wrong evidence.  Also screwed around too much running to the Western Union office and missed out on interviewing the stupid broad.

Oh yeah I failed because I was trying to rush and get it finished and didn't bother talking to the consul.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: katmai on July 04, 2011, 02:13:44 AM
I sure hope i'm not suppose to be kind to these criminals, everyone that has tried to run i end up headshotting. :lol:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: derspiess on July 05, 2011, 12:27:43 PM
Quote from: katmai on July 04, 2011, 02:13:44 AM
I sure hope i'm not suppose to be kind to these criminals, everyone that has tried to run i end up headshotting. :lol:

Don't worry.  Body count seems to impress your captain more than anything.  There are a few isolated instances where you fail the mission for shooting the suspect, but the restart point is usually pretty convenient.

In some cases it's possible to fire your gun in the air to stop them, but you have to do it a specific way and it there's a timer that has to complete before it happens.

So yeah, shoot first & ask questions later.


I did the Nicholson Electroplating DLC last weekend & thought it was a pretty decent case.  I guess Reefer Madness will be the final one.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Syt on March 04, 2013, 02:44:35 AM
Finished this over the weekend.

The good:
Awesome recreation of a large chunk of post-war L.A. with lots of little details. Face capture technology worked fine for me - I played the game in black/white and the atmosphere was amazing. The story is decent for the most part.

The bad:
Half way through the game became a bit boring. I really liked the traffic cases which were rather varied. The murder cases became repetitive, and I hated that even though you had all the trimmings of a serial killing, you had to pin it on one of the suspects, even if I was rather certain that they hadn't done it and had been duped. The finale of Black Dahlia was a bit weak. Vice was where he game almost lost me. I didn't care much for the cases (except Naked City, though that was rather convoluted), and I hated Roy Earle. The game felt more like his story at this point and I was along for the ride. Arson picked up again, fortunately, and brought the story to a decent (if hillariously convoluted) end - I was surprised no "Reinemachefrau" showed up.

The ugly:
The case work mini games become very repetitive:
- search for clues,
- solve little puzzles - the one at Hall of Records was almost hillarious, but a nice demonstration how research worked in the pre-computer days,
- chases by car or on foot
- shoot outs
- interrogations (where the results were not always making sense to me, like sometimes expecting you to select "lie" which then goes off on a remote tangent of the previous statement; also, the "twitches" were sometimes very minute, though that was obviously the point)
Additionally, I didn't really care for Phelps. He was the proverbial stick in the mud and you learn little about him except during the flashbacks, so there's not much identification going on for me. Where the fuck did the affair come from? He avoided talking about his family, but I didn't take this as a hint there were marital problems (possibly related to his war experiences). Kelso was much more relatable.
Finally, the ending was rather unsatisfying (but appropriate given the style they were going for), in that the crooked cops and politicians get away scot free. Heck, the biggest jerkwad holds the eulogy. Only the real estate tycoon and the doctor get what's due (and the poor firebug). The post credit cutscene didn't really help to explain the main plot, and told you basically what you already knew.


Final verdict:
Overall, the game has three things going for it:
- the well researched setting and atmosphere (some anachronisms not withstanding), from the streets to the cars to the apartments and indoor locations. Absolutely amazing.
- the story (for the most part)
- the facial technology (which, while not perfect, did a lot to draw me into the game). I found it worked much better in b/w than in color.
It felt less than a game and more like an interactive story with a few brain teasers/action bits, very linear and always taking your hand when you were stumped. Hell, you can skip the action scenes if you fail them too often, and still make it through the game if you botch up every single case. Though considering the huge amount of data in the game (14GB or so with DLC?), I understand why branching storylines or alternative outcomes of cases or even dialogue choices like in Mass Effect weren't an option. They supposedly already cut the burglary and fraud case desks for that reason.

In total I enjoyed the ride, and I may revisit a few cases to get a better score, and maybe complete the auto collection achievement and the street crimes. For the price of €7.49 (Steam Summer Sale) I can't complain. :P
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Josquius on March 04, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
My verdict on the game so far-the biggest pile of shit I've ever bought.
Can't get the freaking thing to even work. And googles show I'm not the only one. Very unexpected
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: garbon on March 04, 2013, 07:24:57 AM
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Sheilbh on March 04, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
I enjoyed it a lot. I thought the whole corrupt developers thing was because it was going for a Chinatown vibe[spoiler] - especially because you end up dead and most of the baddies get away -[/spoiler] which I really liked
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Razgovory on March 04, 2013, 08:00:32 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 04, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
I enjoyed it a lot. I thought the whole corrupt developers thing was because it was going for a Chinatown vibe[spoiler] - especially because you end up dead and most of the baddies get away -[/spoiler] which I really liked

You Brits are a weird bunch.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Sheilbh on March 04, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
What's weird about that? :mellow:
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: DontSayBanana on March 04, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Quote from: Tyr on March 04, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
My verdict on the game so far-the biggest pile of shit I've ever bought.
Can't get the freaking thing to even work. And googles show I'm not the only one. Very unexpected

This is why I don't try to do console games on PC.  Loved it on the XB360.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Razgovory on March 04, 2013, 09:06:24 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 04, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
What's weird about that? :mellow:

You guys always seem to like it when the bad guys win.  It's like a whole nation of masochists.
Title: Re: L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival
Post by: Queequeg on March 05, 2013, 11:16:50 AM
Quote from: Sheilbh on March 04, 2013, 07:30:56 PM
I enjoyed it a lot. I thought the whole corrupt developers thing was because it was going for a Chinatown vibe[spoiler] - especially because you end up dead and most of the baddies get away -[/spoiler] which I really liked
Yeah, the plot took a lot from Chinatown.