L.A. Noire' to be first game screened at Tribeca Film Festival

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derspiess

#45
June 01, 2011, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah I miss the traffic partner although the homicide one grew on me.  I did like the much larger scale of the vice cases.  But yeah, I agree that doubt was generally the safe option. I also recognized the importance of checking what evidence I had - I always sort of assumed I could use the fact that I found the drugs/murder weapons in the possession of the suspect as evidence - but it often seemed not to qualify as proof when accusing them of lying. :(

My problem was that I was actually thinking the other way-- that none of my evidence was airtight enough to back up an accusation.

MINOR SPOILER

Like, for example, the dude who helped Mr. Black fake his own death.  The receipt that was in the trunk for a live pig did not IMO prove he was at the supposed crime scene.  It only proved that he bought the pig.

Also btw, wtf-- Mr. Black was 32 years old?  More like 52.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

derspiess

#46
June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 10:53:11 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 31, 2011, 02:49:35 PM
I was not totally sold on the plot until the very end.  The cut-scene it shows after you sit through all the damned credits actually explains in more detail how it all started.

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I thought the plot seemed to unravel by the end. Everyone is in on this great conspiracy. Assassins burst forth to attack in a record room at the Hall of Records? Way too many people were in on the conspiracy => referring to the real estate stuff, not the drugs.

The only thing that really bugged me around that part was the film you find that ties all the real estate investors together.  I guess I was also bugged by the tired old cliches of the evil amoral capitalist, paranoid anti-communists, etc.

QuoteCole Phelps - Quite a dick in his behavior and really no explanation to the whole affair bit. Elsa wasn't all that.

Elsa was not all that, but all the women in the game looked a little weird.  The face capture technology is awesome, but either the actresses they used were not the most attractive or the technology has a little way to go.  Anyway, I guess it left you to assume that opposites attract.  What annoyed me a lot more was how everyone was so repulsed by Phelps after word got out that he cheated on his wife with a German gal a couple years after the war.  People on the street even call him a crooked cop :huh:

QuoteJack Kelso - Super dick! What did he think dumbass Sheldon would do once he was informed about the conspiracy? Sent him to his grave.

Why did they choose to have us play as Kelso in the last act? Woohoo, I'm an insurance investigator and I solve puzzles with an adding machine?! :w00t: :dgul:

:lol:  Well he did start working for the DA (I honestly didn't know DAs had their own investigators) at a certain point.  I have a feeling they got him involved just to set him up as the main character in the sequel.

QuoteOverall, fun game but it seemed to have jumped off the rails when rushing to the final conclusion.

*And why is Phelps considered a great detective? You spend most of the game putting away people for crimes that they didn't commit. :lol:

He's smarter than all the other detectives.  But yeah, that just means he's the only one smart enough to get duped by the actual conspirators.
"If you can play a guitar and harmonica at the same time, like Bob Dylan or Neil Young, you're a genius. But make that extra bit of effort and strap some cymbals to your knees, suddenly people want to get the hell away from you."  --Rich Hall

garbon

#47
June 01, 2011, 09:56:14 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:37:29 AM
Quote from: garbon on May 31, 2011, 04:30:34 PM
Yeah I miss the traffic partner although the homicide one grew on me.  I did like the much larger scale of the vice cases.  But yeah, I agree that doubt was generally the safe option. I also recognized the importance of checking what evidence I had - I always sort of assumed I could use the fact that I found the drugs/murder weapons in the possession of the suspect as evidence - but it often seemed not to qualify as proof when accusing them of lying. :(

My problem was that I was actually thinking the other way-- that none of my evidence was airtight enough to back up an accusation.

MINOR SPOILER

Like, for example, the dude who helped Mr. Black fake his own death.  The receipt that was in the trunk for a live pig did not IMO prove he was at the supposed crime scene.  It only proved that he bought the pig.

Also btw, wtf-- Mr. Black was 32 years old?  More like 52.

True, true. It was odd that he folded when confronted with said "evidence."
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

garbon

#48
June 01, 2011, 10:01:46 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
The only thing that really bugged me around that part was the film you find that ties all the real estate investors together.  I guess I was also bugged by the tired old cliches of the evil amoral capitalist, paranoid anti-communists, etc.

True, I didn't understand why they would have filmed that meeting and then left it on display in a broken down warehouse.

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
Elsa was not all that, but all the women in the game looked a little weird.  The face capture technology is awesome, but either the actresses they used were not the most attractive or the technology has a little way to go.  Anyway, I guess it left you to assume that opposites attract.  What annoyed me a lot more was how everyone was so repulsed by Phelps after word got out that he cheated on his wife with a German gal a couple years after the war.  People on the street even call him a crooked cop :huh:

The crooked cop bit was funny. I was like the affair had nothing to do with his job!

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
:lol:  Well he did start working for the DA (I honestly didn't know DAs had their own investigators) at a certain point.  I have a feeling they got him involved just to set him up as the main character in the sequel.

Yeah that makes sense. Still didn't appreciate the transition as then when we saw evidence of fire starting stuff in the firebug's shack, Kelso had no reaction whereas Phelps would have.  I think I didn't like knowing way more than either character...which was also something disappointing about the newspaper sequences.

Quote from: derspiess on June 01, 2011, 09:55:07 AM
He's smarter than all the other detectives.  But yeah, that just means he's the only one smart enough to get duped by the actual conspirators.
Yeah he fell for all the evidence planted by the Black Dahlia killer. Actually I would have liked more info or at least background on that temp bartender.
"I've never been quite sure what the point of a eunuch is, if truth be told. It seems to me they're only men with the useful bits cut off."
I drank because I wanted to drown my sorrows, but now the damned things have learned to swim.

Habbaku

#49
June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
The medievals were only too right in taking nolo episcopari as the best reason a man could give to others for making him a bishop. Give me a king whose chief interest in life is stamps, railways, or race-horses; and who has the power to sack his Vizier (or whatever you care to call him) if he does not like the cut of his trousers.

Government is an abstract noun meaning the art and process of governing and it should be an offence to write it with a capital G or so as to refer to people.
-J. R. R. Tolkien

Razgovory

#50
June 01, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Razgovory

#52
June 01, 2011, 09:54:09 PM
Quote from: ulmont on June 01, 2011, 06:45:01 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 01, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: Habbaku on June 01, 2011, 02:14:37 PM
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/3347-L-A-Noire

I didn't know he put one out today.

Every Wednesday, although today's was late.

Yeah, I checked around noon and it wasn't there so I figured wasn't one today.  They guy does some good reviews when he isn't deliberately antagonizing his audience.  Only problem is that most of the games he plays and the ones I play are worlds apart.
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017

Caliga

#53
June 04, 2011, 05:52:09 PM
Got this game earlier today.  I like it so far.
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Caliga

#54
June 06, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
I wonder why all of the women in the game look like crack whores. :hmm:
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Kleves

#55
June 07, 2011, 01:29:37 AM
I just finished it. It was enjoyable, but I think many of the things that spiess and garbon said are true. They seem to have over-reached a bit. It also would have been fun to have something to do between missions.
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

Jacob

#56
June 10, 2011, 08:47:55 PM
Quote from: Caliga on June 06, 2011, 08:03:10 PM
I wonder why all of the women in the game look like crack whores. :hmm:

Rockstar does not believe in hot chicks.

Caliga

#57
June 15, 2011, 09:16:06 PM
It also doesn't help that they keep turning up brutally murdered. :Embarrass:

Rockstar: misogynist? :)
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Josquius

#58
June 20, 2011, 07:38:19 PM
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Razgovory

#59
June 23, 2011, 02:45:17 PM
I've given it serious thought. I must scorn the ways of my family, and seek a Japanese woman to yield me my progeny. He shall live in the lands of the east, and be well tutored in his sacred trust to weave the best traditions of Japan and the Sacred South together, until such time as he (or, indeed his house, which will periodically require infusion of both Southern and Japanese bloodlines of note) can deliver to the South it's independence, either in this world or in space.  -Lettow April of 2011

Raz is right. -MadImmortalMan March of 2017
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