Awesome!
From the author of Pride & Prejudice & Zombies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X58RPS665V0
I saw this book at the store the other day, I tried to read the jacket but I just couldn't do it.
:bleeding:
Antibellum emo vampires? Can't really see it. These must be pre-mormon pre-emo and pre-sticky knickers vampires. I'll read.
Since when did books have trailers anyway?
Quote from: Tyr on April 27, 2010, 04:39:59 AM
Since when did books have trailers anyway?
Welcome to the 21st century.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 27, 2010, 02:46:52 AM
:bleeding:
The reviews have been great, even the Abraham Lincoln blog liked it. Tim Burton has already optioned the film rights.
Your Honor, exhibit #598 of why Tim needs to be punched in the nuts repeatedly
It's a best seller, as was Pride & Prejudice & Zombies before it, and both are being made into movies. You can't pin this on me.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 27, 2010, 08:39:24 AM
It's a best seller, as was Pride & Prejudice & Zombies before it, and both are being made into movies. You can't pin this on me.
Objection overruled.
I pronounce you guilty.
Then I must counterattack with the upcoming movie "Leonardo da Vinci and the Soldiers of Forever"
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/warner-bros-making-leonardo-da-vinci-actionadventure.html
QuoteDa Vinci is best known as the painter behind "Mona Lisa" and "The Last Supper," though he also was an inventor, engineer, architect, mathematician among many other occupations. The project re-imagines Da Vinci as a member of a secret society who falls headlong into a supernatural adventure that pits the man against Biblical demons in a story involving secret codes, lost civilizations, hidden fortresses and fallen angels. Think "National Treasure" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" by way of "Clash of the Titans."
Boring.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 27, 2010, 09:41:15 AM
Boring.
Of course. The Hack Attack follows every original idea and produces tons of boring unoriginal copies. Happened to fantasy, happened to vampire novels, and now to the "unusual combo" genre.
Philip Jose farmer did all of this stuff much better than the modern writers, back in the 1960s and 1970s.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 27, 2010, 09:29:47 AM
Then I must counterattack with the upcoming movie "Leonardo da Vinci and the Soldiers of Forever"
http://www.heatvisionblog.com/2010/03/warner-bros-making-leonardo-da-vinci-actionadventure.html
QuoteDa Vinci is best known as the painter behind "Mona Lisa" and "The Last Supper," though he also was an inventor, engineer, architect, mathematician among many other occupations. The project re-imagines Da Vinci as a member of a secret society who falls headlong into a supernatural adventure that pits the man against Biblical demons in a story involving secret codes, lost civilizations, hidden fortresses and fallen angels. Think "National Treasure" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark" by way of "Clash of the Titans."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churchill:_The_Hollywood_Years
die die die
Abe Lincoln vs. vampires actually sounds like it would work very well as an allegory -- vampires being parasites who survive off of the life energy of others.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 27, 2010, 08:17:20 AM
Your Honor, exhibit #598 of why Tim needs to be punched in the nuts repeatedly
Hear, hear!
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on April 27, 2010, 11:54:51 AM
Abe Lincoln vs. vampires actually sounds like it would work very well as an allegory -- vampires being parasites who survive off of the life energy of others.
Then there could be a sequel: Vladimir Lenin vs. Vampires.
:bleeding:
Goddammit Tim. I couldn't stand this sort of overclever thing when it was just the one book. Now that the bandwagon is being jumped on by every second-rate hack, I refuse to pay any attention to this crap.
Quote from: grumbler on April 27, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
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Philip Jose farmer did all of this stuff much better than the modern writers, back in the 1960s and 1970s.
I wish a omnibus of the
Riverworld novels was shoved up Tim's ass.
Or a minibus.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 27, 2010, 06:11:49 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 27, 2010, 02:46:52 AM
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The reviews have been great, even the Abraham Lincoln blog liked it. Tim Burton has already optioned the film rights.
:bleeding:
Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since Mars Attacks!
Quote from: Jaron on April 27, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie since Mars Attacks!
I love that movie. :lol:
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 27, 2010, 06:47:12 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 27, 2010, 06:11:49 AM
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on April 27, 2010, 02:46:52 AM
:bleeding:
The reviews have been great, even the Abraham Lincoln blog liked it. Tim Burton has already optioned the film rights.
:bleeding:
What are you eye bleeding about? :yeahright:
Quote from: grumbler on April 27, 2010, 11:45:56 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 27, 2010, 09:41:15 AM
Boring.
Of course. The Hack Attack follows every original idea and produces tons of boring unoriginal copies. Happened to fantasy, happened to vampire novels, and now to the "unusual combo" genre.
Philip Jose farmer did all of this stuff much better than the modern writers, back in the 1960s and 1970s.
And that wasn't that good to begin with. I think the original writers of the pulps and fantasy and sci-fi and weird fiction (1920's-1940's didn't really care that their works weren't taken seriously, and the next generation 1950's-1970's felt snubbed and strained to be respectable and deep, and current generation just wallows and celebrates it's hackery.
Honestly, it's hard enough coming up with a storyline that's somewhat original, a writer can hardly be expected to come up with a unique *type* of story.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 27, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Honestly, it's hard enough coming up with a storyline that's somewhat original, a writer can hardly be expected to come up with a unique *type* of story.
:lmfao: duh! That's why we talk about "genre" books and movies and whatnot. I don;'t know of anyone who "expects" a writer to come up with "a unique 'type' of story." Whoever it is must be disappointed a lot, as there are about 4,000 books published
per day in the world, and a new genre comes along once a century or so.
Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2010, 06:34:33 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 27, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Honestly, it's hard enough coming up with a storyline that's somewhat original, a writer can hardly be expected to come up with a unique *type* of story.
:lmfao: duh! That's why we talk about "genre" books and movies and whatnot. I don;'t know of anyone who "expects" a writer to come up with "a unique 'type' of story." Whoever it is must be disappointed a lot, as there are about 4,000 books published per day in the world, and a new genre comes along once a century or so.
I don't know about that. The 20th century was full of new genres.
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
I don't know about that. The 20th century was full of new genres.
Depending on what you call a genre, I suppose you are correct. Let me change that to "decade or so" then. :P
I wanna see one about George washington's Continental Army being infected with lycanthropy and spreading the disease world wide, eventually leading to a show down in Mecca with an aged Oliver Twist's freedom fighters.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 27, 2010, 09:58:12 PM
Honestly, it's hard enough coming up with a storyline that's somewhat original, a writer can hardly be expected to come up with a unique *type* of story.
They can but its hard.
And then harder again for said new type of story to be accepted and published.
The 20th century being full of new genres....maybe its a case of everything has already been invented?- not literally of course but to quite a degree.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.homepagedaily.com%2Fuploads%2F20091020%2Ffcc49d4e-b004-4d69-8ccd-2e63c6d59ed1%2Flincoln20rape.jpg&hash=c64ddf107d9a699eece0f46e82e22dbaef72a84d)
What I hope hope happens to purchasers of this drek.
Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2010, 08:50:40 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
I don't know about that. The 20th century was full of new genres.
Depending on what you call a genre, I suppose you are correct. Let me change that to "decade or so" then. :P
I can accept that.
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey. In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey. In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.
Found!?
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
I was thinking just fantasy (SF existed in the 19th C) , but after reflection concluded you were right. Cyberpunk, e.g., really was a genre, not a sub-genre.
Now I want to see the Odyssey redone as Cyberpunk.
Quote from: frunk on April 28, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Now I want to see the Odyssey redone as Cyberpunk.
What is odd is how little you'd have to change. Aside from adding computers, that is.
Thing is, the ancient Greeks had those, too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
:D
[Yes I know it is not the of the same era as the late Mycenaen. So sue me.]
Well Snow Crash had Sumerian programmers in it.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 28, 2010, 02:56:16 PM
Well Snow Crash had Sumerian programmers in it.
Don't lie.
Quote from: frunk on April 28, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Now I want to see the Odyssey redone as Cyberpunk.
Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of Doritos on which a slender programming manual and a list of passwords lay crossed. A yellow bathrobe, unfasted, was was sustained gently behind him on the stale morning air. He held his hand aloft to the color of a television tuned to a dead channel sky and intoned:
—Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,.
Halted, he peered down the dark winding stairs and called out coarsely:
—Come up, Kinch! Come up, you fearful cyborg!
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey. In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.
I must have missed the part where Odysseus battled the Cyberspace Klingons.
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 04:09:54 PM
Quote from: dps on April 28, 2010, 04:03:25 PM
Quote from: Jaron on April 27, 2010, 07:01:23 PM
Tim Burton hasn't made a good movie!
FYP
Fuck you. Batman ruled.
Burton wasn't really the guy who made that one. He got the credit, but it wasn't really his movie.
Quote from: dps on April 28, 2010, 04:12:47 PM
Burton wasn't really the guy who made that one. He got the credit, but it wasn't really his movie.
So his good movies were not "really his" but the bad ones were? :P
Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood were good movies, as was Batman already noted. Lotsa drek as well, for sure.
Quote from: Burton's director credits at IMDBFrankenweenie (2011) (pre-production)
Alice in Wonderland (2010)
... aka "Alice in Wonderland: An IMAX 3D Experience" - USA (IMAX version)
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007)
... aka "Sweeney Todd" - USA (short title)
Cinema16: American Short Films (2006) (V)
Corpse Bride (2005)
... aka "Tim Burton's Corpse Bride" - Singapore (English title), USA (complete title)
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005)
... aka "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: The IMAX Experience" - USA (IMAX version)
Big Fish (2003)
Planet of the Apes (2001)
The World of Stainboy (2000)
... aka "Stainboy" - USA (alternative title)
Sleepy Hollow (1999)
Mars Attacks! (1996)
Ed Wood (1994)
Batman Returns (1992)
Edward Scissorhands (1990)
Batman (1989)
Beetle Juice (1988)
... aka "Beetlejuice" - USA (alternative spelling), USA (DVD title)
"Faerie Tale Theatre" (1 episode, 1986)
... aka "Shelley Duvall's Faerie Tale Theatre" - USA (alternative title)
- Aladdin and His Wonderful Lamp (1986) TV episode
"Alfred Hitchcock Presents" (1 episode, 1986)
- The Jar (1986) TV episode
Pee-wee's Big Adventure (1985)
Frankenweenie (1984)
Vincent (1982)
Luau (1982)
Hansel and Gretel (1982/II) (TV)
Doctor of Doom (1979)
Stalk of the Celery (1979)
... aka "Stalk of the Celery Monster" - USA (alternative title)
The Island of Doctor Agor (1971)
Hmmm, Jaron may be on to something, though I thought Corpse Bride and Big Fish were ok and haven't seen Alice yet.
His first credit appears to be a film made when he was 13. :lol:
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey. In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.
I must have missed the part where Odysseus battled the Cyberspace Klingons.
"It was all written in the Odyssey" is just another way of saying "I don't understand what you guys are talking about but want to sound smart anyway." :P
I'd say he's always been spotty, but his good work is still well worth the time.
Excellent:
Sweeney Todd (mostly riding on Sondheim here)
Big Fish
Ed Wood
Pee Wee's Big Adventure
Good:
Corpse Bride
Batman Returns
Edward Scissorhands
Batman
Beetle Juice
Middling/Uneven:
Alice in Wonderland
Sleepy Hollow
Bad:
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Planet of the Apes
Mars Attacks!
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
Quote from: grumbler on April 28, 2010, 08:50:40 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 08:41:03 AM
I don't know about that. The 20th century was full of new genres.
Depending on what you call a genre, I suppose you are correct. Let me change that to "decade or so" then. :P
I can accept that.
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Aren't space opera and cyberpunk just sub-genres of sci-fi?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 28, 2010, 06:39:56 PM
Aren't space opera and cyberpunk just sub-genres of sci-fi?
They are related in the sense that they all use a high tech future as the backdrop and/or as a plot device for their stories.
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on April 28, 2010, 12:52:42 PM
Quote from: Neil on April 28, 2010, 11:08:34 AM
I would consider sci-fi, space opera, cyberpunk, post-apocalyptic, super-hero and high fantasy to be fiction genres spawned out of the 20th century, although I suppose one could group them all under an 'adventure' genre.
Most of those genres can be found in the Odyssey. In truth, there haven't been any new genres in a few thousand years.
I must have missed the part where Odysseus battled the Cyberspace Klingons.
It translates differently into ancient Greek. And they used different costume and set designers.
The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 28, 2010, 07:34:10 PM
The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.
:hug:
Quote from: Savonarola on April 28, 2010, 03:15:36 PM
Quote from: frunk on April 28, 2010, 02:42:29 PM
Now I want to see the Odyssey redone as Cyberpunk.
Stately, plump Buck Mulligan came from the stairhead, bearing a bowl of Doritos on which a slender programming manual and a list of passwords lay crossed. A yellow bathrobe, unfasted, was was sustained gently behind him on the stale morning air. He held his hand aloft to the color of a television tuned to a dead channel sky and intoned:
—Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,.
Halted, he peered down the dark winding stairs and called out coarsely:
—Come up, Kinch! Come up, you fearful cyborg!
Better than the original, fortunately. Although that's not hard.
Quote from: Scipio on April 30, 2010, 07:08:10 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 30, 2010, 07:00:24 AM
Quote from: The Brain on April 29, 2010, 01:07:16 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 28, 2010, 07:34:10 PM
The Odyssey is best read in the original Klingon.
:hug:
:hug:
You don't like the Odyssey, Scipio? WTF!
Reading comprehension fail, Timmay. I don't like Ulysses.
Ah, well I never read it. No wonder I couldn't figure out what passage he was referencing. :blush:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 30, 2010, 07:17:04 AM
Ah, well I never read it. No wonder I couldn't figure out what passage he was referencing. :blush:
There's also a clever reference to Neuromancer and Lord of the Rings in there. It's an interextual Geek epic.
Quote from: Scipio on April 30, 2010, 07:08:10 AM
Reading comprehension fail, Timmay. I don't like Ulysses.
The reading comprehension fail was yours, though. Ulysses was written by Tennyson thousands of years after the Odyssey was written.
Though Ulysses could be awesome as cyberpunk:
It little profits that an idle CPU
By this still memory, among this barren code,
Matched with an agèd RAM, I write and dole
Unequal worms unto savage viri,
That rewrite drives, and replicate, and email themselves, and know not me.
Fuck. I had forgotten all about this monstrosity. Damn you Tim!
I read that Pride and Prejudice and Zombies book. The idea would have worked better with a shorter work imo.