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Title: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Jos Theelen on April 11, 2009, 12:27:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Gardens (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grey_Gardens)
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Grey+Gardens
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 11, 2009, 12:58:47 PM
 :lol:

Nice site.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 01:16:46 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on April 11, 2009, 12:58:47 PM
:lol:

Nice site.
Thanks, I think I'll get a lot of use out of it here. ^_^

What's up with the guy in your avatar?  :huh:
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Oh it's meant to be a great film, though I've never seen it.

Edit:  I don't understand why it's a gay thing though :huh:
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Ed Anger on April 11, 2009, 01:23:56 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Grey+Gardens

:lmfao:

Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Syt on April 11, 2009, 01:26:28 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Grey+Gardens

:lol:
Good one.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: DisturbedPervert on April 11, 2009, 01:30:45 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 01:16:46 PM
What's up with the guy in your avatar?  :huh:

Just some dude wrapped up in duct tape I found on GIS.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 11, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Oh it's meant to be a great film, though I've never seen it.

Edit:  I don't understand why it's a gay thing though :huh:

"The documentary has been adapted into a full-length musical"
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 11, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Oh it's meant to be a great film, though I've never seen it.

Edit:  I don't understand why it's a gay thing though :huh:

"The documentary has been adapted into a full-length musical"
So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Syt on April 11, 2009, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM

So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.

There's an opera about Angela Merkel. :)
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Savonarola on April 11, 2009, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 11, 2009, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM

So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.

There's an opera about Angela Merkel. :)

There's one about Richard Nixon too.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 02:40:13 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on April 11, 2009, 02:35:47 PM
Quote from: Syt on April 11, 2009, 01:46:29 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM

So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.

There's an opera about Angela Merkel. :)

There's one about Richard Nixon too.
The difference between that one and the Gadafi, Maggie and probably Merkel ones, is that it's good.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 04:31:52 PM
Speaking of "gay interest", today I was shopping at a Polish equivalent of Virgin/HMV megastore and they had a movie section titled "Arthouse Cinema/Musicals". For some reason it had "Thelma & Louise" in it.

They may have titled it "Movies for Gays" instead. :P

I got "Thelma & Louise", "Run Lola Run" and "Sound of Music".  :blush:
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:43:23 PM
Quote from: The Nickname Who Was Thursday on April 11, 2009, 01:38:42 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Oh it's meant to be a great film, though I've never seen it.

Edit:  I don't understand why it's a gay thing though :huh:

"The documentary has been adapted into a full-length musical"
So's the story of Colonel Gadafi and Maggie Thatcher, not to mention Jesus Christ.  Doesn't mean they're of especial interest to queens.
From what I read the documentary is considered the "classic of camp". I was actually hoping you, garbon or Habsburg (i.e. the arthouse fags) here would chime in and provide some insight into it.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Sheilbh on April 11, 2009, 05:18:52 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 04:32:56 PM
From what I read the documentary is considered the "classic of camp". I was actually hoping you, garbon or Habsburg (i.e. the arthouse fags) here would chime in and provide some insight into it.
My understanding was that it was a poignant film about the pretensions of old money when the money runs out :mellow:

You should read Susan Sontag's 'Notes On Camp' if you're interested in it, it's very good.

I resent being put in the same bracket as Garbo and Habs <_<  We're all rather different.  Though all enjoyable and essential to the board's ecosystem in our own little ways.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on April 11, 2009, 06:09:52 PM
Grey Gardens is a fantastic documentary, touching and quite funny at the same time.  I don't think it's a film of exclusively gay interest -- it's directed by the Maysles brothers, who also made Salesman (a great documentary about door-to-door Bible salesmen in the late 60s) and other documentaries -- but I do have a few gay (male) friends who went wild for it and even started trying to dress like Little Edie for a short period.   :D

I wouldn't say it's really camp per se, but just that the Beales are such unconventional and theatrical characters.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: garbon on April 11, 2009, 10:59:13 PM
Sorry, but my sister had to explain to me what Gray Gardens was this week whilst I was in New York. I'd never heard of it.

Also, Sheilbh, what are you talking about? I'd certainly think Thatcher and Jesus would be of interest to queens.  My first musical was Joseph and his amazing rainbow coat. :)
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 12, 2009, 03:31:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Ancient Demon on April 12, 2009, 11:21:21 AM
Never heard of it.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: garbon on April 12, 2009, 11:33:43 AM
Amazing.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 12, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2009, 03:31:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P

Well all of you need to step it up then. :p

Actually unless you are a real film buff/scholar likely until a few years ago it's unlikely you would have heard of it. very much a cultish thing until it's recent (a few years ago now) Criterion release, and subsequent art-house runs (only allowed after Jackie O's death.)  and the B-Way show... It now has become a bigger cult thing.

If you like it... check out other Maysles Bros stuff like Salesman or Gimme Shelter. Equally awesome docs.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 13, 2009, 04:22:57 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
I post there a lot.  :huh:
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: katmai on April 13, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 12, 2009, 01:01:24 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 12, 2009, 03:31:14 AM
Quote from: BuddhaRhubarb on April 11, 2009, 11:01:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on April 11, 2009, 12:09:57 PM
I heard it mentioned several times lately and it feels like my homo education is lacking for not knowing it.

What is it?

I knew you weren't gay I just knew it.  :p
It seems my lack of knowledge of Grey Gardens is on par with Sheilbh's and garbon's. :P

Well all of you need to step it up then. :p

Actually unless you are a real film buff/scholar likely until a few years ago it's unlikely you would have heard of it. very much a cultish thing until it's recent (a few years ago now) Criterion release, and subsequent art-house runs (only allowed after Jackie O's death.)  and the B-Way show... It now has become a bigger cult thing.


HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Neil on April 13, 2009, 06:57:29 AM
Quote from: Martinus on April 13, 2009, 04:22:57 AM
Quote from: Neil on April 12, 2009, 06:52:24 PM
Those Feast of Fools forums are really rounding out your education.  I can understand why you don't post there though.
I post there a lot.  :huh:
I'm surprised by that.  I would think that the other gays would mock you pretty ruthlessly, given your provincialism and their own lack of maturity, and you'd be ashamed.

Then again, you're not ashamed about the whole 'lawyer' thing, so I guess I shouldn't be as surprised as I am.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 13, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.

I'd assumed that's why Marty heard a lot about it recently.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Martinus on April 13, 2009, 10:34:18 AM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2009, 10:20:19 AM
Quote from: katmai on April 13, 2009, 04:31:32 AM
HBO has made a film with Drew Barrymore and Jessica Lange premiering this month.

I'd assumed that's why Marty heard a lot about it recently.
This is correct.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on April 13, 2009, 12:08:47 PM
The trailer for the film version looks good. but trailers often do. I'm guarded in my optimism.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Habsburg on April 13, 2009, 04:35:44 PM
I've heard it's going straight to cable.

Too bad, Dame Lange should get another Oscar nomination.

Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2009, 04:47:42 PM
Well yes, it is a film for HBO.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: Habsburg on April 13, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 13, 2009, 04:47:42 PM
Well yes, it is a film for HBO.

It wasn't originally filmed for HBO.  No one else would pick it up for theatrical distribution.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: garbon on April 13, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
Gotcha.
Title: Re: What is "Grey Gardens"?
Post by: fhdz on April 13, 2009, 05:35:51 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on April 11, 2009, 12:32:32 PM
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Grey+Gardens

:lol: :lol: :lol: