I have to fly to Phoenix in June. Fucking fuck.
"But it's a dry heat, man." Well, so's your fucking oven. Fucking Arizona in summer.
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2010, 05:36:17 AM
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
My office.
:lol: :P
:nelson:
I knew the honeymoon wouldn't last but sheesh seedy.
Opportunity to bang a mexican chick.
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2010, 05:51:52 AM
:nelson:
I knew the honeymoon wouldn't last but sheesh seedy.
:lol: I love my new job, but man....Phoenix? In June?
Boss: "So, you're going to go to the meeting in Phoenix?"
Me: "I've already tasked M---- for that."
Boss: "Oh, so he's going with you?"
Me: "Message received. D'oh."
Try to catch a ballgame at Chase Field. It's supposedly pretty cool, temperature wise, esp. with the roof closed.
I'd take Phoenix heat over fucking humid 90+ of east coast in June.
Not sure if this counts as "travel" the way you mean it, but when my last job closed, the only way to avoid layoff was to accept a transfer to Morehead, South Dakota. Needless to say, I declined.
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2010, 06:11:06 AM
I'd take Phoenix heat over fucking humid 90+ of east coast in June.
That's the weather in Singapore. :(
Thought for a minute there they'd actually made you get a passport :P
Worst place I ever had to go for work? Probably Newport, Wales.
State College, Pa
Seedy, Phoenix in June is perfectly fine. In fact, we have a very large Arizona operation and I'm actually trying to arrange getting out to Phoenix or Tucson this summer.
I've not been to Arizona in the summer, but I've been to New Mexico in the summer. The thermometer might say 110, but since it's so bone-dry it feels like 80 or so... seriously.
Back to the question in the OP: my boss kept trying to get me to go to northern Wisconsin this past December. I was like.... ummmm yeah, Don.... there's sort of a problem with the system that demands my undivided attention... sorry about that I was really looking forward to it :shifty:
I hear they have air conditioning there.
The desert also cools at night even though it sucks during the day
Yes, that's true... there's nothing to retain the heat or something like that.... IIRC in extreme cases like the Sahara it often gets freezing cold at night.
Heh, when I was in New Mexico we were mountain climbing and we camped on a peak one night where it got down below 20 F, in the middle of July.
I'm going to some small town in Missouri where the per capita income is around 10k a year (according to wiki). If I stop posting, I probably got shot.
Hey Fredo, how would you feel about giving a guy a foot massage?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 15, 2010, 07:31:57 AM
Hey Fredo, how would you feel about giving a guy a foot massage?
Not really my cup of tea.
Quote from: CountDeMoney
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
Whenever I have to go on a business travel, I'm always annoyed... especially because most flights leave quite early.
But then the experience is always rewarding, so I end up never regretting them.
If the weather is a problem, just go hotel-taxi-place of business-taxi-hotel. The permanent air conditioning will keep you cool.
But I wouldn't recommend it. Wouldn't the place you'll be travelling to invite you to some special occasion... like a good dinner? (and possibly call girls)
We have operations going live in Honolulu and San Juan, PR this year and I'm trying to figure out a way to break something in the system that will somehow magically require me to be there onsite to fix it. :hmm:
Quote from: DontSayBanana on April 15, 2010, 06:29:46 AM
Not sure if this counts as "travel" the way you mean it, but when my last job closed, the only way to avoid layoff was to accept a transfer to Morehead, South Dakota. Needless to say, I declined.
You're from Jersey, so not so needless. :lol:
I traveled to Duenschede, Germany. I'm not even able to pronounce it correctly.
Trees, trees, rain, rain, rain, trees and some more rain. And an obnoxious (and ugly) female coworker .
L.
Quote from: Pedrito on April 15, 2010, 07:57:08 AM
Trees, trees, rain, rain, rain, trees and some more rain. And an obnoxious (and ugly) female coworker .
:D
It's true that for outsiders, the german forests do stand out when we first go there. Especially for an Iberian - we're just not used to having so much wood around.
Caliga, you are on drugs.
I lived in Tucson and Phoenix for a long time. 110 degrees is fucking HOT, and I don't give a shit how "dry" it is. It is fucking hot. Insanely hot. Don't go outside hot, and certainly don't get into a car hot.
And yeah, it cools right off into the 90s at night in July.
The average overnight low in July is 83 degrees in Phoenix, btw. Record is 96.
Yeah, it gets cold in the desert at night - in the "winter". Not in the summer.
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2010, 06:11:06 AM
I'd take Phoenix heat over fucking humid 90+ of east coast in June.
June is extremely pleasant on the East Coast, generally. Second half of July, and all of August...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2010, 05:36:17 AM
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
Copenhagen. The place is a borehole.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 15, 2010, 08:42:16 AM
Copenhagen. The place is a borehole.
I like Copenhagen, but I do feel like I've seen it all and done it all in just two two-day trips.
Quote from: katmai on April 15, 2010, 06:11:06 AM
I'd take Phoenix heat over fucking humid 90+ of east coast in June.
I kinda miss that humidity.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 08:06:08 AM
Caliga, you are on drugs.
I lived in Tucson and Phoenix for a long time. 110 degrees is fucking HOT, and I don't give a shit how "dry" it is. It is fucking hot. Insanely hot. Don't go outside hot, and certainly don't get into a car hot.
:huh:
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Probably massive and arterial for me given my gluttony, but I digress. :(
Anyway, maybe somehow Arizona is different than New Mexico.... dunno. But it didn't really bother me and I remember being shocked to see the thermometer given how it felt outside to me.
What's the big deal seedy? You aren't 60 yet so you shouldn't die of heat stroke.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 08:06:08 AM
Caliga, you are on drugs.
I lived in Tucson and Phoenix for a long time. 110 degrees is fucking HOT, and I don't give a shit how "dry" it is. It is fucking hot. Insanely hot. Don't go outside hot, and certainly don't get into a car hot.
And yeah, it cools right off into the 90s at night in July.
I lived in Phoenix for a few years too. One day it was 122. The airport had to close because of the heat.
The good thing is that 120 feels exactly the same as 110.
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 09:19:57 AM:huh:
Different strokes for different folks, I guess. Probably massive and arterial for me given my gluttony, but I digress. :(
Anyway, maybe somehow Arizona is different than New Mexico.... dunno. But it didn't really bother me and I remember being shocked to see the thermometer given how it felt outside to me.
I think altitude may play a part. IIRC Phoenix is quite a bit lower than most of Arizona and New Mexico. CBA to look it up though.
What's the difference? You can't go outside in Baltimore either without wearing a snorkel in the summer. :P
You guys who lived in Arizona obviously know better than me--I was merely offering my own ancedotal experience.... and Max is probably right about altitude playing a role.
I can certainly report that Houston and New Orleans are often intolerable in the summer. :bleeding:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2010, 05:36:17 AM
I have to fly to Phoenix in June. Fucking fuck.
"But it's a dry heat, man." Well, so's your fucking oven. Fucking Arizona in summer.
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
Yeah, but I generally don't blubber about it online.
Our traditional client base has been located in secondary (or worse) markets, but we're getting more in larger cities, Florida, and the Pacific northwest. So my trips tend to alternate between places I like & places I hate.
So for every crappy little rust belt or Appalachian town I have to travel to, there is a trip to Fort Lauderdale, Sarasota, Miami, Seattle, or Grants Pass (Oregon).
I haven't been to Arizona (save for a quick jump across the state line) but I visited New Mexico 3 times back in 1997 and loved it. No humidity and a cool arid landscape I had never seen before. No desire to live there, but a nice place to visit.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2010, 10:49:52 AM
What's the difference? You can't go outside in Baltimore either without wearing a snorkel in the summer. :P
I bet you also really sweat a lot under those bullet proof wests.
I'll take every single time and place mentined on this thread over travelling to Ross River, Yukon in January.
Quote from: derspiess on April 15, 2010, 11:01:26 AM
So for every crappy little rust belt or Appalachian town I have to travel to, there is a trip to Fort Lauderdale, Sarasota, Miami, Seattle, or Grants Pass (Oregon).
We're acquiring more operations in 'cool' places, too, like the ones I mentioned in Honolulu and Puerto Rico. We also just bought a huge operation in Seattle and I was hoping I'd be asked to go out there, but they didn't need me.
In fact, there's a discovery visit taking place right now at an operation in Nags Head, NC. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 10:52:53 AMI can certainly report that Houston and New Orleans are often intolerable in the summer. :bleeding:
New Orleans is fine in the summer, unless you're some kind of pansy.
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
You guys who lived in Arizona obviously know better than me--I was merely offering my own ancedotal experience.... and Max is probably right about altitude playing a role.
I can certainly report that Houston and New Orleans are often intolerable in the summer. :bleeding:
Flagstaff is one of the nicest places to be in the summer because it's on top of a mountain covered in nice big pine trees. The climate is very comfortable there.
Quote from: sbr on April 15, 2010, 10:46:27 AM
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 08:06:08 AM
Caliga, you are on drugs.
I lived in Tucson and Phoenix for a long time. 110 degrees is fucking HOT, and I don't give a shit how "dry" it is. It is fucking hot. Insanely hot. Don't go outside hot, and certainly don't get into a car hot.
And yeah, it cools right off into the 90s at night in July.
I lived in Phoenix for a few years too. One day it was 122. The airport had to close because of the heat.
The good thing is that 120 feels exactly the same as 110.
That is true - once you crack 110, it really makes no difference anymore. It is so searingly hot that it doesn't really matter anymore.
Summers in Phoenix are like winters in upstate New York - it isn't just the extreme of the weather, it is the seemingly never ending consistency of it. Once it breaks 100, it is going to be over 100 every single day for months.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2010, 11:19:54 AM
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 10:52:53 AM
You guys who lived in Arizona obviously know better than me--I was merely offering my own ancedotal experience.... and Max is probably right about altitude playing a role.
I can certainly report that Houston and New Orleans are often intolerable in the summer. :bleeding:
Flagstaff is one of the nicest places to be in the summer because it's on top of a mountain covered in nice big pine trees. The climate is very comfortable there.
Lived there for a few years as well.
Flagstaff is very nice, climate wise. It gets pretty damn hot at times (into the 90s) but it isn't that every day, inescapable heat that you get in Phoenix. It will get hot, then cool down, then get hot again, etc., etc. Flagstaff in general is pretty nice all year though.
Kind of a shitty little town though, as far as the city itself.
Do you prefer Upstate NY, Berkut?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 11:49:49 AM
Do you prefer Upstate NY, Berkut?
That is an excellent question.
Right now, I miss Arizona, but I suspect that is because I just came out of another upstate NY winter. I remember how much I wanted to get out of the desert when I graduated though - I didn't even consider staying in Arizona.
So I don't really know.
I do know that I miss Colorado though.
It's hot outside in Louisville today. :cool:
We had a 'bad' winter by Kentucky standards, in that we got 16 inches of snow. :o
Fortunately, the winter ended by the first week of March and it's summer now.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 12:01:29 PM
That is an excellent question.
Right now, I miss Arizona, but I suspect that is because I just came out of another upstate NY winter.
You have to admit, for the kids, those winters rock. I remember snow deeper than I was tall on many occasions back in Brockport.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on April 15, 2010, 12:27:32 PM
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 12:01:29 PM
That is an excellent question.
Right now, I miss Arizona, but I suspect that is because I just came out of another upstate NY winter.
You have to admit, for the kids, those winters rock. I remember snow deeper than I was tall on many occasions back in Brockport.
Of course - although they were both pretty excited to see the weather finally warm up a bit.
Snow is great, but even kids find getting into and out of snow gear pretty damn annoying after a while.
Normally, Vienna takes a week to go from 0 to 18-20° C. Currently we have a few days to reach 20, then suddenly drop back to single digits and start over.
It's been raining for three days now, which is rare here. :weep:
I like travelling for work. You get paid to just sit on a bus.
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 11:09:12 AM
I'll take every single time and place mentined on this thread over travelling to Ross River, Yukon in January.
Why you ask is Ross River, Yukon so bad?
Well you have to drive. It's a 4 1/2 hour drive from Whitehorse. First hour and a half aren't bad - at least the road is paved. But from there? You don't pass through ANY towns/communities. The road is twisty, windy, with steep cliffs and no guard railes. And it's unpaved half the way. And road clearance is not a priority.
If anything happens, good luck to you. I've driven that road meeting all of 2-3 oncoming vehicles, for the entire time. And it's the Yukon, so winter temps of -40c are common (especially further inland, like Ross River).
Once you get there? Well it's slightly better now - the only hotel (and only restaurant) is open again. There used to be NOTHING for awhile, and right before the hotel closed there was no point looking at the menu - you had to ask what (if anything) they actually had in stock to cook.
I've stayed there with no heat. I've stayed there with no tv. I've stayed there with no lock on the door (thankfully these are 3 separate occasions).
The only store (and only gas) closes at 6pm, so you better make sure you have supplies purchased before then.
Oh - and everyone in towns knows I'm the prosecutor. :ph34r:
That sounds kinda like my town, Bee Bee, aside from the extreme cold. :cool:
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 01:12:08 PM
That sounds kinda like my town, Bee Bee, aside from the extreme cold. :cool:
Your town doesn't have 200 people, and isn't hours away from the next nearest town.
BB, what does the people of Ross River do? Indians?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
BB, what does the people of Ross River do? Indians?
Yukon doesn't have reserves, but yes, most of the people of Ross River are members of the Kaska First Nation. There's a new mine up towards the NWT border that is employing a number of town members.
Well, this is true. But the nothing ever being open and everyone knowing you parts are true. :cool:
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
BB, what does the people of Ross River do? Indians?
Yukon doesn't have reserves, but yes, most of the people of Ross River are members of the Kaska First Nation. There's a new mine up towards the NWT border that is employing a number of town members.
Do Territories have income taxes?
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
BB, what does the people of Ross River do? Indians?
Yukon doesn't have reserves, but yes, most of the people of Ross River are members of the Kaska First Nation. There's a new mine up towards the NWT border that is employing a number of town members.
Do Territories have income taxes?
Of course. :huh:
Quote from: Tyr on April 15, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
I like travelling for work. You get paid to just sit on a bus.
I really liked it when I started this job in 2005 (first day on the job, my boss & I hopped a flight to New Orleans & walked down Bourbon Street). I didn't have a kid at the time, I got to see parts of the country I had never visited, and sometimes took my wife along & extended the trip into a mini-vacation. Airline delays & whatnot didn't bother me as much as they do now.
I still like it depending on the destination, but it's tough sometimes to be away from the family for a full week :(
Quote from: derspiess on April 15, 2010, 01:52:24 PM
Quote from: Tyr on April 15, 2010, 12:55:56 PM
I like travelling for work. You get paid to just sit on a bus.
I really liked it when I started this job in 2005 (first day on the job, my boss & I hopped a flight to New Orleans & walked down Bourbon Street). I didn't have a kid at the time, I got to see parts of the country I had never visited, and sometimes took my wife along & extended the trip into a mini-vacation. Airline delays & whatnot didn't bother me as much as they do now.
I still like it depending on the destination, but it's tough sometimes to be away from the family for a full week :(
a few more years and you'll be grateful for that week alone :p
A few days is nice.
5 days or so, maybe a week, is ok.
More than that it really starts to suck.
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 02:47:58 PM
A few days is nice.
5 days or so, maybe a week, is ok.
More than that it really starts to suck.
I dunno - my current court circuit is pretty crappy, but I don't mind it too much as it's only 2-3 days. Mr previous circuit was to a bigger town, with better highways, hotels, and restaurants (in that the road is paved and there is more than one of each), but as it would typically stretch to 5 days which quite sucked...
I just don't like foreigners with their smelly ways and their BAR BAR BAR jibber jabber.
And that was just Chicago.
Yeah, Yuma was pretty warm when I dropped by there one lovely summer.
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 01:48:59 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:42:01 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 01:26:37 PM
Quote from: Grey Fox on April 15, 2010, 01:21:52 PM
BB, what does the people of Ross River do? Indians?
Yukon doesn't have reserves, but yes, most of the people of Ross River are members of the Kaska First Nation. There's a new mine up towards the NWT border that is employing a number of town members.
Do Territories have income taxes?
Of course. :huh:
How do the indians avoid paying taxes then?
Quote from: Berkut on April 15, 2010, 02:47:58 PM
A few days is nice.
5 days or so, maybe a week, is ok.
More than that it really starts to suck.
Yeah, agree 100%
For my part, work trips have been to: Sao Paulo, San Diego, New York, Hong Kong and LA.
They can be good, they can be tedious - depends how close they are together, how long they are and what else is going on in my life at the time.
They once wanted me to go to New Jersey at the start of my christmas vacation.
Last December I had to go to a tiny town north of the Arctic Circle for court. I didn't mind it because I'd never been there before, that would get immensely tiresome very quickly if I had to go routinely:
-no restaurant at all
-no hotel at all, only a bare-bones B&B (but they don't serve breakfast)
-dry community
-amazingly cold
-virtually no sunlight
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
Last December I had to go to a tiny town north of the Arctic Circle for court. I didn't mind it because I'd never been there before, that would get immensely tiresome very quickly if I had to go routinely:
-no restaurant at all
-no hotel at all, only a bare-bones B&B (but they don't serve breakfast)
-dry community
-amazingly cold
-virtually no sunlight
Did you have to hunt down your own seal in your off-hours, and chew the blubber for sustenance? :lol:
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
Last December I had to go to a tiny town north of the Arctic Circle for court. I didn't mind it because I'd never been there before, that would get immensely tiresome very quickly if I had to go routinely:
-no restaurant at all
-no hotel at all, only a bare-bones B&B (but they don't serve breakfast)
-dry community
-amazingly cold
-virtually no sunlight
When do you think you will move back to civilization?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 15, 2010, 07:55:34 AM
You're from Jersey, so not so needless. :lol:
Touche- though this
was before Christie took office, I'm still chomping at the bit to get out of this state. Hello degree, goodbye South Jersey.
While you're in Phoenix, we should meet up and have lunch. :)
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
-dry community
HA. Since my county has gone wet, we now have:
a) a drive through liquor and cigarette store
b) a sports bar in one of the gas stations (with an attached liquor store)
c) a county judge-executive who got busted for DUI last weekend
Good times. :smoke:
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
-dry community
HA. Since my county has gone wet, we now have:
b) a sports bar in one of the gas stations (with an attached liquor store)
Good times. :smoke:
There is a shocker.
Recently I was slated to go to Korea for three weeks but I told them to fuck off.
Well, I didn't use those exact words, but I made it clear it was a bad idea.
Quote from: FunkMonk on April 15, 2010, 05:35:00 PM
Recently I was slated to go to Korea for three weeks but I told them to fuck off.
Well, I didn't use those exact words, but I made it clear it was a bad idea.
I hope S. Korea keeps Tim. Without internet access.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 15, 2010, 05:27:50 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 15, 2010, 05:22:10 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 15, 2010, 03:29:51 PM
-dry community
HA. Since my county has gone wet, we now have:
b) a sports bar in one of the gas stations (with an attached liquor store)
Good times. :smoke:
There is a shocker.
Is there anything Caliga *can't* do in a gas station in his county? :hmm:
Check this shit out. This BBQ pit has the best damn ribs ever (and it's right down the road):
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi679.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv155%2FCaliga10%2Fbsbbq.jpg&hash=2f84326fe6bcd3eb296bb3f8653640a48b3f5c41)
This is the front yard. That's right, the BBQ pit is also a tractor scrapyard. Across the street you can see the gas station with the sports bar:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi679.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv155%2FCaliga10%2Fbsbbq2.jpg&hash=47d5488fccda6b708d5102be4dadac427e5347d3)
America the beautiful. :cry:
Quote from: Jacob on April 15, 2010, 03:23:15 PM
Quote from: Berkut
A few days is nice.
5 days or so, maybe a week, is ok.
More than that it really starts to suck.
Yeah, agree 100%
For my part, work trips have been to: Sao Paulo, San Diego, New York, Hong Kong and LA.
They can be good, they can be tedious - depends how close they are together, how long they are and what else is going on in my life at the time.
I had fun on my 2.5 week business adventure but that was because of the locations and my lack of a personal life.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2010, 05:36:17 AM
I have to fly to Phoenix in June. Fucking fuck.
"But it's a dry heat, man." Well, so's your fucking oven. Fucking Arizona in summer.
Anybody else have to go someplace they don't want to go for work?
This will make you feel better... when I was much younger I went (on the spur of the moment) to Arizona on the 1st of August, thinking "How hot could it be"? Motherfucker. It was Hot. Phoenix BTW is the ugliest city I've ever been to. They do have more waterslide parks than anywhere else though.
As much as I despise traveling for work, I am attempting to muscle in on the company's trip to China next year on the executive protection detail.
That's right, baby. CdM's got his sights on the belly of the beast itself.
Don't get arrested in China...
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:09:01 AM
That's right, baby. CdM's got his sights on the belly of the beast itself. Chinese pussy.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 16, 2010, 06:33:14 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:09:01 AM
That's right, baby. CdM's got his sights on the belly of the beast itself. Chinese pussy.
http://www.somethingawful.com/d/horrors-of-porn/night-china.php
(Maybe NSFW, mini boobs visible)
My mother in law's former boss travels to China constantly for business (she works for Yum! and they're opening KFC outlets nonstop there). All she's ever said about China is how amazingly OSSUM it is. I do however suspect she gets the VIP treatment due both to her position and China's love affair with Colonel Sanders.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 16, 2010, 06:09:01 AM
As much as I despise traveling for work, I am attempting to muscle in on the company's trip to China next year on the executive protection detail.
That's right, baby. CdM's got his sights on the belly of the beast itself.
If you go, let me know when and where and I'll let share a few tips :cheers:
Quote from: Caliga on April 16, 2010, 06:56:01 AM
My mother in law's former boss travels to China constantly for business (she works for Yum! and they're opening KFC outlets nonstop there). All she's ever said about China is how amazingly OSSUM it is. I do however suspect she gets the VIP treatment due both to her position and China's love affair with Colonel Sanders.
If you're going to China to visit people of middle class or higher status, or if you're there on business, there's a 98% chance you'll get the VIP treatment. You pretty much won't be allowed to pay for anything, people will give you random presents and people will continuously try to feed you and get you drunk.
Hospitality is a big thing there, and while it's not necessarily about you but about face and local status, you still get to benefit. Whatever other problems China has, visiting there as a guest of anyone who is remotely anybody is, in fact, awesome even if you're not particularly important. I imagine it might be even nice if you are some sort of big shot, but even as a fairly average foreigner you get taken care of really well.
Quote from: Jacob on April 16, 2010, 11:18:07 AM
Hospitality is a big thing there, and while it's not necessarily about you but about face and local status, you still get to benefit. Whatever other problems China has, visiting there as a guest of anyone who is remotely anybody is, in fact, awesome even if you're not particularly important. I imagine it might be even nice if you are some sort of big shot, but even as a fairly average foreigner you get taken care of really well.
You know what else is big there? Industrial espionage. Leave your Crackberries and laptops at home. Your shit will be scanned and USB'd before you've had time to check out the hotel bar.
I've been dragged to Wellington, NZ, Kuala Lumpar, Perth, Australia, and Beijing.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 17, 2010, 06:42:46 AMYou know what else is big there? Industrial espionage. Leave your Crackberries and laptops at home. Your shit will be scanned and USB'd before you've had time to check out the hotel bar.
Heh. Very possibly. But that doesn't mean you can't enjoy the 1.5 hour massage in your hotel room, paid by your host :)
I've been living in Dublin for 3 years and I hate this place. The one and only reason I ever moved was work
Kevin
Quote from: Eochaid on April 18, 2010, 08:28:13 AM
I've been living in Dublin for 3 years and I hate this place.
Tell us why you hate it. I mean, I know you've got Frenchy in you, so you'd hate anyplace that isn't French, but please expound on Dublin.
It expensive as hell (use to be 3rd most expensive city in the world to live in, now down to 7), ugly as fuck, shitty weather, provincial, boring, swamped by stag nights every weekend... oh and the half Dublin's population seems to be afflicted at the same time by delusions of grandeur and an inferiority complex (always compating themselves to the UK)
Kevin
PS: also, massive chav city...
There was talk about sending one of us to Iran last year, but nobody wanted to, so nobody did. Someone will have to go to Morocco and southern Italy this year, but that won't be that much of a problem.
I've been to:
London (crap)
Paris (nice)
Milan (okay)
Copenhagen (BORING)
Dublin (meh)
I don't count the canadian cities, as it is America lite. Except Windsor, which reminded me of Back to the Future II, the part about the town run by Biff.
My American list is longer and full of profanity aimed at Chicago.
Quote from: Eochaid on April 18, 2010, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 18, 2010, 02:20:37 PMLondon (crap)
Care to elaborate?
Kevin
The place felt dirty and the people were surly. Made quite a negative first impression to me. A bunch of fat, poorly dressed goobers. Plus I got the feeling that if they had the chance, I'd have a knife in my back if I didn't stay fully alert. I think my suit attracted the scum of England.
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 18, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
The place felt dirty and the people were surly. Made quite a negative first impression to me. A bunch of fat, poorly dressed goobers. Plus I got the feeling that if they had the chance, I'd have a knife in my back if I didn't stay fully alert. I think my suit attracted the scum of England.
Try wearing a suit in downtown Cincy. Every 5 seconds some bum will ask you for money.
Quote from: derspiess on April 20, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on April 18, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
The place felt dirty and the people were surly. Made quite a negative first impression to me. A bunch of fat, poorly dressed goobers. Plus I got the feeling that if they had the chance, I'd have a knife in my back if I didn't stay fully alert. I think my suit attracted the scum of England.
Try wearing a suit in downtown Cincy. Every 5 seconds some bum will ask you for money.
I avoid that shithole too. One day, I'm going to go nuts on I-75.
Quote from: derspiess on April 20, 2010, 03:37:18 PM
Every 5 seconds some bum will ask you for money.
In San Francisco, that happens no matter what you are wearing. You learn to tune them out. :)
Quote from: garbon on April 20, 2010, 03:43:47 PM
In San Francisco, that happens no matter what you are wearing. You learn to tune them out. :)
Now that I get to wear jeans to work, I never get hassled. My "leave me the f*ck alone" scowl tends to help with that as well, I guess.
I thought that would help, but it doesn't in SF. There is simply too many of the fuckers. They'll even try to ask me for money when I have my headphones blasting.
Quote from: derspiess on April 20, 2010, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: garbon on April 20, 2010, 03:43:47 PM
In San Francisco, that happens no matter what you are wearing. You learn to tune them out. :)
Now that I get to wear jeans to work, I never get hassled. My "leave me the f*ck alone" scowl tends to help with that as well, I guess.
I am glad my work is pretty laid back about dress - I just wear jeans to work and pretty much blend in.
There's nothing quite like wearing barrister's robes (or even just the vest and tabs) for sticking out in a crowd though - doubly so in the middle of nowhere, Yukon.
I wear a hot pink mini-skirt when in public. Perhaps that's my problem? :hmm:
I feel bad for you guys that seemingly work in neighborhoods full of poors. :(
Quote from: Caliga on April 20, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
I feel bad for you guys that seemingly work in neighborhoods full of poors. :(
I wouldn't say "poors". It's just that Yukon is full of lots of different people: natives, hippie types, miners, and hunters - all of which have little in common besides very functional clothing.
The guy driving down the street in a rusted our pickup truck may be on social assistance, or he might have just came back from the Tungsten mine with six figures in his bank account.
Quote from: Caliga on April 20, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
I feel bad for you guys that seemingly work in neighborhoods full of poors. :(
SF is one of the homeless capitals of America. ^_^
Quote from: garbon on April 20, 2010, 03:55:51 PM
I wear a hot pink mini-skirt when in public. Perhaps that's my problem? :hmm:
I think my brother saw you walking around at Union Square. :o :o
To bring it back on topic: I'm off to Jainesville, WI, for three days in May. Yippee!
Quote from: garbon on April 20, 2010, 05:47:04 PM
Quote from: Caliga on April 20, 2010, 05:32:36 PM
I feel bad for you guys that seemingly work in neighborhoods full of poors. :(
SF is one of the homeless capitals of America. ^_^
I dodged eight or ten of them in the last two hours. My favorite is the guy somewhere west of Union Square (Post or Kearney maybe--don't remember) who holds a sign that says "FUCK YOU! GIVE ME SOME MONEY!" on it. Sometimes he yells at people. Mostly just laughs.
They are really no big deal after a while. Oh and thanks for the meal.
Quote from: garbon on April 20, 2010, 11:46:57 PM
They are really no big deal after a while. Oh and thanks for the meal.
Hey, don't get pissy with me. :lol:
That'd be a first. ;)
Quote from: merithyn on April 20, 2010, 11:09:03 PM
To bring it back on topic: I'm off to Jainesville, WI, for three days in May. Yippee!
We have an office there. I'm told by those who have visited it that Janesville is: a dump. :ph34r: