Yes it is early. Suck it.
Signing day on the 3rd. The Ohio State panicky types are wetting their pants because 4 Ohio top prospects deserted the state and the incoming class doesn't look that strong. Fuck that shit.
http://ohiostate.scout.com/a.z?s=145&p=9&c=8&yr=2010
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
Well the so called experts are saying Huskies have 2nd or 3rd best class in Pac-10/top 30 in country, and still trying to get some late commits from guys who are looking at Notre Dame/Boise St/Hawaii/UCLA.
So have to see, but looking like a decent group with a bunch of Linemen and the son of the Greatest Quarterback EVAH!
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
the way some people act the 4 committed high treason, and TRESSEL MUST BE FIRED NOW!
Ed, you fool! You crazy, mad fool!
By making the rule "No Timmys", that means one Timmy is allowed! :o
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 01, 2010, 07:25:49 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
the way some people act the 4 committed high treason, and TRESSEL MUST BE FIRED NOW!
I read about it under the guise of the whole Big Ten is having problems keeping local kids, not just THE OHIO STATE
The Big Ten has no TEAM SPEED. Mark May said so.
Florida's recruiting class is ridiculous. A lot of people thought our class would fall apart because of the Urban Meyer leave of absence situation, but this may be his best class yet. And unlike other years, UF recruited nationally this year, instead of mostly in the South. We have a couple 5 star guys from the Northeast, and we picked up a 5 star guy from southern California that USC was going after.
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
Meh. Ohio's been supplying half the players in the B10 for decades. It's the state's primary export now.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 01, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
Meh. Ohio's been supplying half the players in the B10 for decades. It's the state's primary export now.
Keep reading thread :P
Quote from: Barrister on February 01, 2010, 07:28:30 PM
Ed, you fool! You crazy, mad fool!
By making the rule "No Timmys", that means one Timmy is allowed! :o
Huzzah!
Go Fighting Irish!
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 08:15:28 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on February 01, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 01, 2010, 07:22:40 PM
OMG you can't keep them in state, you must suxor!
Meh. Ohio's been supplying half the players in the B10 for decades. It's the state's primary export now.
Keep reading thread :P
They export most of the good coaches too. :P
Ohio State signed 2 good Running Backs. FAP.
I'm happy with UDub's day, there were three decently touted guys they had a chance to sign coming into this morning, got the Safety, lost the LB to UCLA and DT to Oregon.
The Ducks signed Tony Dungy's kid. The one who didn't kill himself
Wyoming signed a linebacker from Munich Germany. We will eat up opposing offenses.
Quote from: PDH on February 03, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Wyoming signed a linebacker from Munich Germany. We will eat up opposing offenses.
This didn't work all that well for the Central Michigan defense, despite their kraut linebacker screaming various things in German before each tackle.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 03, 2010, 10:45:52 PM
Quote from: PDH on February 03, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Wyoming signed a linebacker from Munich Germany. We will eat up opposing offenses.
This didn't work all that well for the Central Michigan defense, despite their kraut linebacker screaming various things in German before each tackle.
I am sure he is a career 3rd stringer - but it is fun anyway. If he DOES scream in german, I would go to the game with a big sign "Deutschland Uber Alles"
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 01, 2010, 07:18:56 PM
Signing day on the 3rd. The Ohio State panicky types are wetting their pants because 4 Ohio top prospects deserted the state and the incoming class doesn't look that strong. Fuck that shit.
The only reason Texas got Hicks was because his mother knew one the Texas coaches when they both lived in Colorado. Yes we whore out our assistant coaches for recruits.
Quote from: PDH on February 03, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Wyoming signed a linebacker from Munich Germany. We will eat up opposing offenses.
I look forward to Wyoming goose-stepping on to the field in Austin next year in perfect formation.
Quote from: Valmy on February 04, 2010, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 01, 2010, 07:18:56 PM
Signing day on the 3rd. The Ohio State panicky types are wetting their pants because 4 Ohio top prospects deserted the state and the incoming class doesn't look that strong. Fuck that shit.
The only reason Texas got Hicks was because his mother knew one the Texas coaches when they both lived in Colorado. Yes we whore out our assistant coaches for recruits.
It just isn't the 5 stars that some have wet themselves over. Michigan signed more Ohio players than Ohio State did. According to some, this will lead to the Earth to implode.
Quote from: PDH on February 04, 2010, 01:00:07 PM
I am sure he is a career 3rd stringer - but it is fun anyway. If he DOES scream in german, I would go to the game with a big sign "Deutschland Uber Alles"
:lol: The Central dude is actually pretty good (tbh, they had/have some solid LBs, but the rest of the D utterly blows), so you never know. Unfortunately, I don't think Wyoming ever plays any teams like Eastern Michigan, where there's literally no one in attendance so you can hear everything that's going on on the field.
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:ph34r:
None of your Signing Day posts matter.
The SEC and especially Florida has effectively ended the discussion.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 04, 2010, 06:16:09 PM
None of your Signing Day posts matter.
The SEC and especially Florida has effectively ended the discussion.
CdM: Fan of mullets and jorts. :D
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on February 04, 2010, 05:33:52 PM
:ph34r:
I just saw a picture, Wyoming's German is far darker. He must be descended from Tanganykian Askari stock.
Quote from: katmai on February 03, 2010, 07:24:14 PM
got the Safety,
Got OUR safety, assholes!
Quotelost the LB to UCLA and DT to Oregon.
Tough shit - if you hadn't taken our safety, you'd have gotten them.
Quote from: grumbler on February 04, 2010, 07:22:19 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 03, 2010, 07:24:14 PM
got the Safety,
Got OUR safety, assholes!
Quotelost the LB to UCLA and DT to Oregon.
Tough shit - if you hadn't taken our safety, you'd have gotten them.
Ah yeah he did have Michigan as finalist didn't he.
Hey Sbr,
Will Oregon be able to field a team come this fall with all the arrests and kids being kicked off team?
:P
Some quick notes off a blog of Seattle Times writers who cover UDub.
Quote
quotes attributed to Scott Woodward the UW AD
--- The Pac-10 and Big Ten have reached out to both Texas and Texas A&M as possible expansion targets (which makes sense as the thought has always been A&M would have to go wherever Texas goes).
--- An expansion could go beyond two teams and could ultimately be a merging of several conferences to the point where there are only four super conferences.
Quote from: katmai on February 21, 2010, 12:43:39 AM
Hey Sbr,
Will Oregon be able to field a team come this fall with all the arrests and kids being kicked off team?
:P
Is being able to field a team a requirement in the Pac-10? :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 21, 2010, 03:22:04 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 21, 2010, 12:43:39 AM
Hey Sbr,
Will Oregon be able to field a team come this fall with all the arrests and kids being kicked off team?
:P
Is being able to field a team a requirement in the Pac-10? :P
Well unlike the SEC we like our student athletes to have higher than a 3rd grade edumacation.
:P
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Quote from: katmai on February 21, 2010, 02:01:18 AM
Some quick notes off a blog of Seattle Times writers who cover UDub.
Quote
quotes attributed to Scott Woodward the UW AD
--- The Pac-10 and Big Ten have reached out to both Texas and Texas A&M as possible expansion targets (which makes sense as the thought has always been A&M would have to go wherever Texas goes).
--- An expansion could go beyond two teams and could ultimately be a merging of several conferences to the point where there are only four super conferences.
I've heard (or rather, read) other speculation that any Big 10 expansion might well not be liminted to just one team, but I don't see it as a good idea. The extreme of putting all the teams into 4 superconferences would be stupid. That would be 30 teams in a conference, on average. Why even have conferences at all at that point? Even if you punted a third of the 1A teams to 1AA, that would still be about 20 teams to a conference.
Really, there's no reason to go beyond 12 teams in a conference (the magic number that lets you hold a conference championship game). The WAC expanded to 16 teams for a few years, and it was an unwieldly mess. The MAC currently has 13 teams, but do other conferences really want to model themselves after the MAC?
Quote from: katmai on February 21, 2010, 12:43:39 AM
Hey Sbr,
Will Oregon be able to field a team come this fall with all the arrests and kids being kicked off team?
:P
I didn't see this before, I thought this was the basketball thread and I don't do college b-ball.
They will be able to field a team, but I don't know how good they will be. :Embarrass: The Ducks don't have any more or less legal problems than other Top 25 teams, but it is their best players that do stupid shit, not their scrubs. I am really curious to see how this Jeremiah Masoli things plays out. The cops have not said one word since the allegations came out but the other kids that was accused was one of the ones that got kicked off the team earlier this month. A local columnist did a public records check of the SAE fraternity house where the alleged incident took place:
http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/john_canzano/index.ssf/2010/01/canzano_questions_for_everyone.html
Quote...
In fact, in the last five years, police have made 57 calls to the fraternity house to take reports that range from public disturbance to someone throwing bricks through a window to a second-floor fire to vandalism to loud music to a report of two people passed out on the front lawn.
You'd expect lots of loud parties. These are college kids and that's what kids do. But if you run a public records request for police activity on the address since 2004 -- and I did this week -- you will find nine pages of reports that show 15 police calls for burglary or theft at the address.
In the last four years, SAE members have called police to report the loss of seven computers, an iPod, a tool chest, and golf clubs, among other items.
...
How does one fraternity house have so much shit stolen from it? :lmfao:
Again I am curious how it will play out, if he really did do it that would be the dumbest thing I can think of a college athlete doing. He already has a robbery arrest on his record, if this is true I guess it won't matter what the pro scouts think of his size and arm strength.
And you got all offended back when I made a comment about "typical" Oregon.
:lmfao: x infinity.
I'm still waiting for Oregon to use that TEAM SPEED and hang 40 or 50 points on the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 22, 2010, 11:04:44 AM
I'm still waiting for Oregon to use that TEAM SPEED and hang 40 or 50 points on the Buckeyes in the Rose Bowl.
Me too, when does that game kickoff?
I'm sure that Rose Bowl win will be enough to propel the Buckeyes to another national championship game loss.
Hope springs eternal in Ann Arbor:
QuoteWolverines
Sports main: Lions | red wings | tigers | pistons | wolverines | spartans | Outdoors
Posted: Feb. 22, 2010
Victors Rally a big morale boost for Rich Rodriguez
BY MARK SNYDER
FREE PRESS SPORTS WRITER
Sunday's Victors Rally at the Michigan Theater, put together by Ann Arbor businessman Pete Nichols, was a promotion of Michigan football's impressive history, filled with video clips from the past 40-plus years. Proceeds benefited the Adopt-A-Family charity in Ann Arbor.
The 3-hour event celebrated past program successes but also featured a number of speakers showing their faith in the future under Rodriguez, building to his moment as the final speaker.
Broadcasters Frank Beckmann and Jim Brandstatter, former coaches Gary Moeller and Jerry Hanlon, former players Larry Foote and Brandon Graham all took the stage and pronounced their faith in Rodriguez, hoping to rally and unify the fan base after two sub-.500 seasons.
"You are all ambassadors," Brandstatter told the crowd, which included the Michigan coaching staff, their families, some former players and incoming athletic director David Brandon. "Tell everyone out there, pull in the same direction. It will happen, we will win, we will be successful, we will do it the right way. We will do it with integrity. That is what we are."
Master of ceremonies and former star quarterback Rick Leach was among the most passionate speakers and rallied the others, asking them to be part of his "huddle."
At the start, Nichols encouraged the more than 450 fans who paid for admission to retain the positive vibe, pleading with a video message he said he often wants to promote: "Detractors Not Allowed."
Rodriguez was positive, telling the crowd what it meant to get the support. He pointed out that some are trying to take shots at Michigan when the Wolverines are down, but that he "can forgive but I'll never forget, I can tell you that."
He repeated his "all in" mantra, which he has made the unifying slogan of the program and said "everybody else that's not all in -- the hell with them," to a raucous cheer.
The fans gave him a standing ovation and cheered at his assurance that championships and Rose Bowls are in U-M's future.
After a number of speakers pointed out they came from other places, only to be overwhelmed by the appreciation for the school and program, becoming a "Michigan Man" also was the theme Rodriguez used.
He said he asked people how he could become a Michigan Man and determined it's about working hard, being passionate, representing right on and off the field, being a good guy and believing in the university's ideals. He said: "I think I'm a Michigan Man."
"I don't know if I can express in words how much I appreciate the opportunity to coach here," he said.
So apparently Chip suspended a linebacker for the entire <wink> 2010 <wink> season <nudge> for being arrested for a DUI <nudge>.
LaMichael James is still on the team, apparently, after being arrested for beating up some girl?
And Chip also kicked a receiver off of the team for posting a rant at him about his faux kicking of the linebacker off the team on hsi facebook page. It included this gem:
QuoteAfter the post went viral on the Internet, a second post appeared on Holland's page reading: "chilln thinking of another status to (expletive) with the readers heads, I wish I could block whites as friends and only have blacks LOL, cause apparently I'm misunderstood."
Masoli and friends gang signs suddenly seem pretty minor in context.
I am sure they will all play on the scout team, go to some classes, and be back playing football in no time. Well, except maybe for the receiver - he sucked, so he may stay kicked off the team.
Good thing Kelly has everything under control up there at Nike U!
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 10:59:35 AM
So apparently Chip suspended a linebacker for the entire <wink> 2010 <wink> season <nudge> for being arrested for a DUI <nudge>.
:lol:
Quote"It's all unacceptable," Kelly said. "This isn't what the university is about or what this football program is about. Nobody is more concerned about that than we are."
Simms was dismissed from the team. Kicker Mike Bowlin, also involved in the street brawl, has withdrawn from the team.
Kelly said he would take action against the other players if he believes there is reason to do so.
"I need to find all the facts first," he said. "I do know the facts in Jamere's case. I know the facts in Matt Simms' case."
If players on his team "don't think I'm serious about this, they don't get it," Kelly said. "If they don't do things the right way, there is a price to be paid :lmfao:."
No Chip, it is you who doesn't get it - of course they don't think you are serious about it - you already proved to everyone that you are most assuredly NOT serious about it.
Talk about reaping what you sow. Could there EVER be a more perfect example???
Berk's hardon for Oregon is disturbing.
Quote from: PDH on February 23, 2010, 11:17:04 AM
Berk's hardon for Oregon is disturbing.
Well, what else am I going to pay attention to?
Arizona football, after that disaster against Nebraska?
Arizona hoops, where the Cats are .500?
Ragging on Thug U. is all I've got!
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
Arizona hoops, where the Cats are .500?
Quit fucking bragging...I dream of .500
Quote from: PDH on February 23, 2010, 11:22:44 AM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
Arizona hoops, where the Cats are .500?
Quit fucking bragging...I dream of .500
I wish of a basketball team that could win away from home.
How many players has Oregon suspended/kicked off/otherwise lost so far anyway? Five or six? It has only been like two months since their season ended. :lol:
3 kicked off team, 1 suspended for entire year and two still under review iirc.
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
3 kicked off team, 1 suspended for entire year and two still under review iirc.
And one not friending whites on facebook. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
3 kicked off team, 1 suspended for entire year and two still under review iirc.
And one not friending whites on facebook. :(
No he was one of those kicked off team.
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 11:28:30 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:27:58 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
3 kicked off team, 1 suspended for entire year and two still under review iirc.
And one not friending whites on facebook. :(
No he was one of those kicked off team.
I guess he can friend the stockboys at Wal Mart now. :)
I want to keep making fun of Oregon, but sbr ain't taking the bait and berkut is sucking the oxygen out of it with his rants. :mad:
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:33:45 AM
I want to keep making fun of Oregon, but sbr ain't taking the bait and berkut is sucking the oxygen out of it with his rants. :mad:
There isn't a whole lot to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore trolls, which rules out responding to any of Berkut's posts. I wonder why he didn't mention the UTEP players who admitted to stealing stuff (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-utep-playersarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns), the 3 Wisconsin players who were suspended (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-wisconsin-playerssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns) indefinitely, the player Florida kicked off the team (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-florida-garybrown&prov=ap&type=lgns), or the NCAA hearing against USC for violations (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jc-uscncaa021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)? Isn't Berkut from new Hampshire or Vermont? Did Chip Kelly run over his dog, or cut a relative from a team?
As far as the Ducks go there isn't much to say that I didn't say before. The police are still investigating the Masoli and James incidents, or should they be kicked off the team as soon as an accusation comes up? The rest are stupid college kids; DUIs and stupid Facebook decisions are not in anyway unique to Eugene Oregon, we just have someone here with some sort of blood-feud with the coach who like to mention those while ignoring the arrests, dismissals and suspensions that happen all over the rest of the country.
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:33:45 AM
I want to keep making fun of Oregon, but sbr ain't taking the bait and berkut is sucking the oxygen out of it with his rants. :mad:
There isn't a whole lot to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore trolls, which rules out responding to any of Berkut's posts. I wonder why he didn't mention the UTEP players who admitted to stealing stuff (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-utep-playersarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns), the 3 Wisconsin players who were suspended (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-wisconsin-playerssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns) indefinitely, the player Florida kicked off the team (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-florida-garybrown&prov=ap&type=lgns), or the NCAA hearing against USC for violations (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jc-uscncaa021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)? Isn't Berkut from new Hampshire or Vermont? Did Chip Kelly run over his dog, or cut a relative from a team?
As far as the Ducks go there isn't much to say that I didn't say before. The police are still investigating the Masoli and James incidents, or should they be kicked off the team as soon as an accusation comes up? The rest are stupid college kids; DUIs and stupid Facebook decisions are not in anyway unique to Eugene Oregon, we just have someone here with some sort of blood-feud with the coach who like to mention those while ignoring the arrests, dismissals and suspensions that happen all over the rest of the country.
But you do have to admit sbr, it's kinda hinky how the only players kicked off team were walkons and scout players, while the actual starters are still "under review"
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 02:07:57 PM
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:33:45 AM
I want to keep making fun of Oregon, but sbr ain't taking the bait and berkut is sucking the oxygen out of it with his rants. :mad:
There isn't a whole lot to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore trolls, which rules out responding to any of Berkut's posts. I wonder why he didn't mention the UTEP players who admitted to stealing stuff (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-utep-playersarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns), the 3 Wisconsin players who were suspended (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-wisconsin-playerssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns) indefinitely, the player Florida kicked off the team (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-florida-garybrown&prov=ap&type=lgns), or the NCAA hearing against USC for violations (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jc-uscncaa021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)? Isn't Berkut from new Hampshire or Vermont? Did Chip Kelly run over his dog, or cut a relative from a team?
As far as the Ducks go there isn't much to say that I didn't say before. The police are still investigating the Masoli and James incidents, or should they be kicked off the team as soon as an accusation comes up? The rest are stupid college kids; DUIs and stupid Facebook decisions are not in anyway unique to Eugene Oregon, we just have someone here with some sort of blood-feud with the coach who like to mention those while ignoring the arrests, dismissals and suspensions that happen all over the rest of the country.
But you do have to admit sbr, it's kinda hinky how the only players kicked off team were walkons and scout players, while the actual starters are still "under review"
I can see how it might look that way of you aren't paying complete attention. Unfortunately the best players are the ones accused of doing the major things, which are still under review by the Eugene Police, not the football team. The scrubs did stupid stuff that was obvious that they did, so the "investigation" was shorter.
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:13:12 PM
I can see how it might look that way of you aren't paying complete attention.
Only what i read in Seattle Times and Husky Blogs :P
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Yeah he's way too composed and literate to be a real Duck fan.
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:05:16 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 11:33:45 AM
I want to keep making fun of Oregon, but sbr ain't taking the bait and berkut is sucking the oxygen out of it with his rants. :mad:
There isn't a whole lot to say. I learned a long time ago to ignore trolls, which rules out responding to any of Berkut's posts. I wonder why he didn't mention the UTEP players who admitted to stealing stuff (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-utep-playersarrested&prov=ap&type=lgns), the 3 Wisconsin players who were suspended (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-wisconsin-playerssuspended&prov=ap&type=lgns) indefinitely, the player Florida kicked off the team (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-florida-garybrown&prov=ap&type=lgns), or the NCAA hearing against USC for violations (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=jc-uscncaa021810&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)? Isn't Berkut from new Hampshire or Vermont? Did Chip Kelly run over his dog, or cut a relative from a team?
Uhhh, no, I am from California and Arizona, actually. I don't even think I've ever been in either New Hampshire or Vermont. Is that where St. Chip is from?
Quote
As far as the Ducks go there isn't much to say that I didn't say before. The police are still investigating the Masoli and James incidents, or should they be kicked off the team as soon as an accusation comes up? The rest are stupid college kids; DUIs and stupid Facebook decisions are not in anyway unique to Eugene Oregon, we just have someone here with some sort of blood-feud with the coach who like to mention those while ignoring the arrests, dismissals and suspensions that happen all over the rest of the country.
Because none of them have anything close to the situation where a player sucker punched another player during a game, then tried to attack fans in what is universally seen as one of the most appalling displays ever seen in college football by a player, then have that player get "kicked" off the team, only to come back and play in that very same year.
THEN have this completely incredible rash of players getting into trouble, dissing their own coach, and seeing a complete lack of any kind of institutional control over their football team, which had something of a standing reputation for putting winning ahead of everything even before Blount.
Yeah, other teams have problems - but none of them have had anything like Blount, and none of them have seen the inevitable consequence of how Chip treated Blount and coddled him back onto the team blow up in their faces.
Are you seriously suggesting that there is no connection between Blount and what is going on now? That this is all just a huge coincidence, and there is nothing at all for Oregon fans to be concerned about - this kind of thing happens everywhere?
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Sorry, not really the Languish way is it? :P
I am 40 years old and have no allegiance to the Ducks other than randomly deciding 30 years ago that I would be a Ducks fan instead of a Beavers fan; so it isn't really that big of a deal to me, though I am disappointed. Though every time I see a story about a Ducks player doing something stupid I get more pissed that Berkut has more ammo in his jihad against Chip Kelly than the actual impact it could have on the team. :Embarrass:
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
As long as they are unbiased sources. :lol:
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Yeah he's way too composed and literate to be a real Duck fan.
Hehe, no kidding.
He is taking the high road - a not terrible strategy, even if it makes him look more like an ostrich than a duck.
Nothing to see here! Just normal college football funnies! Everything is a-ok in Duck nation! We won the conference, went to the Rose Bowl, and if embracing a bunch of thugs and scumbags is what it takes, then by god, we will defend them to the bitter end!
In other news, Michigan broke the NCAA rules on practices.
:lol:
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By MIKE HOUSEHOLDER, Associated Press Writer 29 minutes ago
ANN ARBOR, Mich. (AP)—The NCAA has found that Michigan's storied football program was out of compliance with practice time rules under coach Rich Rodriguez.
Incoming athletic director David Brandon disclosed the finding Tuesday. He says there were no surprises in the NCAA findings. He also says Rodriguez remains the coach.
Michigan has 90 days to respond and will appear at an NCAA hearing on infractions in August.
The NCAA has been looking into allegations raised last fall that Michigan players practiced or spent time on football-related activities beyond NCAA limits. Michigan is seeing how its internal investigation matches up with the NCAA findings and will consider implementing sanctions.
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
Uhhh, no, I am from California and Arizona, actually. I don't even think I've ever been in either New Hampshire or Vermont. Is that where St. Chip is from?
Oh, OK. I haven't been here long but I had the impression you were on the east coast, and specifically the New England area, so nevermind that, sorry.
Quote from: BerkutQuote from: sbrAs far as the Ducks go there isn't much to say that I didn't say before. The police are still investigating the Masoli and James incidents, or should they be kicked off the team as soon as an accusation comes up? The rest are stupid college kids; DUIs and stupid Facebook decisions are not in anyway unique to Eugene Oregon, we just have someone here with some sort of blood-feud with the coach who like to mention those while ignoring the arrests, dismissals and suspensions that happen all over the rest of the country.
Because none of them have anything close to the situation where a player sucker punched another player during a game, then tried to attack fans in what is universally seen as one of the most appalling displays ever seen in college football by a player, then have that player get "kicked" off the team, only to come back and play in that very same year.
THEN have this completely incredible rash of players getting into trouble, dissing their own coach, and seeing a complete lack of any kind of institutional control over their football team, which had something of a standing reputation for putting winning ahead of everything even before Blount.
Yeah, other teams have problems - but none of them have had anything like Blount, and none of them have seen the inevitable consequence of how Chip treated Blount and coddled him back onto the team blow up in their faces.
Are you seriously suggesting that there is no connection between Blount and what is going on now? That this is all just a huge coincidence, and there is nothing at all for Oregon fans to be concerned about - this kind of thing happens everywhere?
I don't know if there is a connection or not, you obviously put a LOT more thought into this than I do. I am not going to discuss the Blount issue, especially with you, and I won't speak for or give my opinions on why or what the athletic department is doing, or not doing.
Every NCAA football program has a bunch of knuckleheads and you can never expect one man to know what 100+ 18-21 year old knuckleheads are doing every minute of every day. The Oregon football program has as many knuckleheads as every other program, thiers just seem to be their better players.
I just noticed that you actually mentioned something specific about the Duck's program:
"which had something of a standing reputation for putting winning ahead of everything even before Blount."
Do you have any examples of this? I am not trying to take the piss, or trap you or troll you, this is an honest question. Before the last couple of years the Ducks program had been successful without breaking many rules and I am really curious what outsiders might see that I apparently don't see.
Full article from the FREEP:
QuoteNCAA: U-M football made 5 major rule violations
By MARK SNYDER, MICHAEL ROSENBERG AND JIM SCHAEFER
FREE PRESS STAFF WRITERS
The NCAA has issued a notice of allegations to the University of Michigan alleging five major violations in its football program. University officials just released the report this afternoon. Incoming athletic director David Brandon said the school would be sticking with head coach Rich Rodriguez.
"We view these allegations seriously," Michigan president Mary Sue Coleman said. "We will make all necessary changes. What we will not do is make excuses."
Among the allegations:
• From January 2008 through this past September, the program exceeded the permissible limit on the number of coaches by five. The NCAA alleges that five quality control staff members illegally engaged in on- and off-field coaching activities.
• From January 2008 through at least last September, the school permitted football staff members to illegally monitor and conduct voluntary summer workouts and impermissible activities outside the playing season. The NCAA also alleges that U-M required players to participate in summer conditioning for disciplinary purposes, and exceed time limits for countable athletically related activities during and outside the playing season.
• Graduate assistant coach Alex Herron provided "false and misleading information to the institution and enforcement staff" during the investigation.
• Coach Rodriguez "failed to promote an atmosphere of compliance within the football program and failed to adequately monitor the duties and activities of quality control staff members, a graduate assistant coach and a student assistant coach, and the time limits for athletically related activities."
• From January 2008 through at least this past September, the athletics department "failed to adequately monitor its football program to assure compliance regarding the limitations on the number, duties and activities of countable football coaches and time limits for countable athletically related activities."
In its letter to Coleman, the NCAA stated that "your university should understand that all of the alleged violations set forth in the document attached to this letter are considered to be potential major violations of NCAA legislation, unless designated as secondary." None of the allegations in the accompanying document are designated as secondary.
These are the first major violations ever alleged against the football program. They come in the wake of an August 2009 Detroit Free Press report on alleged rules abuses by the program.
Brandon said the issues have already begun to be assessed internally and corrected including the processes that led to the breakdowns.
Brandon also said, "Rich Rodriguez is our football coach and he will be our football coach next year."
Michigan may be subject under the "Repeat violator" rule, because these allegations occurred within the five years since the NCAA sanctioned U-M for violations within its basketball program.
The university expects to go before the NCAA committee on infractions in August. That committee will determine what sanctions, if any, to impose.
Michigan could self impose sanctions before then, but officials said at today's news conference it was premature to talk about any resolution.
In late August, the Free Press first reported that the Michigan football program consistently violated NCAA rules governing off-season workouts, in-season demands on players and mandatory summer activities under Rodriguez, according to current and former players.
Players on the 2008 and 2009 teams described training and practice sessions that far exceeded limits set by the NCAA, which governs college athletics. The restrictions are designed to protect players' well-being, ensure adequate study time and prevent schools from gaining an unfair competitive advantage.
The players, who did not want to be identified because they said they feared repercussions from coaches, said the violations occurred at the direction of Rodriguez's staff.
"We know the practice and off-season rules, and we stay within the guidelines," Rodriguez said in a statement issued at the time. "We follow the rules and have always been completely committed to being compliant with all NCAA rules."
U-M compliance director Judy Van Horn said at that time that that the athletic staffs and coaches are well-informed of the rules and that spot checks were conducted. She also stated that "We have not had any reason to self-report any violations in this area with any of our sports."
The school announced an internal investigation, and the NCAA followed suit, announcing it would conduct a probe in conjunction with the school.
The Free Press reports prompted passionate responses, from die-hard supporters claiming a media attack on Rodriguez to others who said the allegations sullied the school's reputation.
At the regularly scheduled Monday press conference in the days following the Free Press articles, Rodriguez stood at the podium and gave an extended, 14-minute monologue to open the press conference.
With tears on his face, he said he was "very proud of the way our players have worked." He praised strength coach Mike Barwis, who oversaw many of the off-season activities that were alleged to have violated extended hours.
The investigation continued behind closed doors for the next six weeks, with very few public comments.
On Oct. 26, Michigan released the NCAA's "notice of inquiry," a letter the school had received on Oct. 23, stating that the initial probe had gathered enough evidence to continue digging.
In that notice, the NCAA wrote it hoped to conclude its investigation by Dec. 31. At that point, Michigan referred all queries to the NCAA.
Coleman's only public comments since came at a basketball game on Jan. 14.
"I'm not anxious, I'm not anxious," she said. "I've said all along I want to see what the issues are and we'll deal with the issues. But I'm not anxious."
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:33:00 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 02:20:52 PM
Uhhh, no, I am from California and Arizona, actually. I don't even think I've ever been in either New Hampshire or Vermont. Is that where St. Chip is from?
Oh, OK. I haven't been here long but I had the impression you were on the east coast, and specifically the New England area, so nevermind that, sorry.
He lives in Rochester, NY now, but he's an all american boy our Berkut is.
And you can't beat the FREEP forums for laughs:
QuoteSo do all of you Michigan Slaps want to apologize individually to Rosenberg or should we send around a card for you to sign?
You clowns are so pathetic.
I will not apologize to that turd for what he did. Misleading 18 year old kids into being part of a news story to take down their own program is total crap. This was not some random story. The Freep has been working on this since Rich Rod was hired. Just as they did with the Demar Dorsey story. How do you explain one of their writers having interviewed all those people down in Florida within 1 day of Dorsey committing to Michigan and have a 7 page article ready to go? It's all planned out. All of it.
(Mike Rosenberg broke the original story.)
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Yeah he's way too composed and literate to be a real Duck fan.
Hehe, no kidding.
He is taking the high road - a not terrible strategy, even if it makes him look more like an ostrich than a duck.
Nothing to see here! Just normal college football funnies! Everything is a-ok in Duck nation! We won the conference, went to the Rose Bowl, and if embracing a bunch of thugs and scumbags is what it takes, then by god, we will defend them to the bitter end!
No it is not OK, I never said it was and if Oregon was the only team in the country that had problems I would be upset, but it isn't. Not by a long shot. Just because I don't respond to your trolls doesn't mean I am OK with it, but I was a 20 year old male on a college campus and I know I did a lot of stupid things, and I was a nobody. I am sure I could have gotten into a lot more trouble if I was a football player.
Quote from: sbr on February 23, 2010, 02:37:47 PM
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 02:22:39 PM
Quote from: katmai on February 23, 2010, 02:16:08 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 23, 2010, 02:14:43 PM
Sbr is way too composed about this. :mad: :P
Yeah he's way too composed and literate to be a real Duck fan.
Hehe, no kidding.
He is taking the high road - a not terrible strategy, even if it makes him look more like an ostrich than a duck.
Nothing to see here! Just normal college football funnies! Everything is a-ok in Duck nation! We won the conference, went to the Rose Bowl, and if embracing a bunch of thugs and scumbags is what it takes, then by god, we will defend them to the bitter end!
No it is not OK, I never said it was and if Oregon was the only team in the country that had problems I would be upset, but it isn't. Not by a long shot.
But Oregon is the only team with problems the likes of Blount sucker punching another player, then trying to physically attack fans, and then was allowed right back on teh team, followed by a rash of more players acting like utter thugs.
This is NOT like other teams at all - that is the point. Some have more or less issues, and how their coaches deal with those issues says a lot about what the institution and their supporters value.
You asked way back when where I got the idea that Oregon had a reputation for not much caring about what thugs they brought into the program, as long as they won. I didn't have a good answer then, because it is just their reputation, nothing really concrete to hang it on. But I was content to simply state that the truth would out, and we shall see.
Well, I could not have set it up any better than what ended up happening to prove the point. Kelly let Blount back on the team, showing that his little show of being a hardass was just a facade, and a bunch of other OU players showed that they were in fact a bunch of thugs.
Now you are asking me AGAIN where this rep comes from? Hell, if they did NOT have such a reputation, they most certainly do now! And it is clearly rather well deserved.
QuoteJust because I don't respond to your trolls doesn't mean I am OK with it,
Oh please, you respond to my posts all the time - don't pretend like I am a troll and you are ever so above it all. I am not saying anything that everyone out there that follows college football isn't saying.
Quote
but I was a 20 year old male on a college campus and I know I did a lot of stupid things, and I was a nobody. I am sure I could have gotten into a lot more trouble if I was a football player.
Perhaps. However, I was a 20 year old as well, and I didn't steal anything, beat up women, drive drunk, or ever once get arrested. It isn't really that hard to do - in fact, most college students manage to NOT get arrested at all! I didn't even habitually flash gang signs at people, believe it or not.
I am pretty sure you cannot possibly argue that in all these cases, none of these kids would be in trouble if only they were not football players. In fact, at most schools, the vast majority of football players manage to not get arrested! I guess if I went to Oregon, perhaps football players beating up women would be common enough that I would not remark it as well.
So yeah, you certainly DO seem a-ok with it- you are here telling us that it isn't anything that doesn't happen at other schools, which certainly suggests that you think there is no actual problem to be addressed, just kids being kids, amirite? IN fact, you even said you "would be upset" if it did NOT happen elsewhere, "but it isn't". So apparently you are NOT upset, and in fact are ok with it.
The Zookster says its the Illinois fans fault.
Quote• [Zook] believes gloomy boosters, fans and media are a big obstacle to success:
"Sometimes I think as a university and as a group of fans, we shoot ourselves in the foot. The negative recruiting, it all stems from us, from our own people. Rather than getting behind the program, they want to start lambasting it.
"The negative recruiting was the worst I've ever seen it this year. But a lot of that is our own people. There's not enough people that believe this program can be where it can be. You're changing attitudes. You're changing beliefs. 'There they go again. They can't sustain it.' When you go back and look at what's happened the last 25 years, it's going to take a tough son of a [gun] to get through that.
[...]
"[Players] read the papers. The e-mails I'm getting, they're probably getting the same things. Pretty soon it's like, 'Damn, does anybody care?'"
Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2010, 03:21:34 PM
Oh please, you respond to my posts all the time - don't pretend like I am a troll and you are ever so above it all. I am not saying anything that everyone out there that follows college football isn't saying.
I have responded to posts in other threads, but before today I had not responded to a post in the NCAA football threads since our initial discussion on Blount's reinstatement. I don't have anything against you personally, I just have no desire to be the sounding board for your diatribes.
I also have no desire to be a part of your silly little one-sided propaganda war against Chip Kelly and the Oregon athletic department. You continue to hate them and I will continue to only worry about things that I can control. If you were ever to want to have an unbiased conversation about the behavior of college football players I will join in. :)
For anyone who is interested, and didn't see it, ESPN Outside the Lines did an interview with Oregon Head Coach Chip Kelly and a follow up story on the problems the Ducks football program has had recently.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4936765
The story is not flattering to Kelly or the Ducks program at all, but it is a good watch if you are interested in the story, or college football in general.
It is probably a good 15-20 minutes.
Quote from: sbr on February 24, 2010, 01:51:54 AM
For anyone who is interested, and didn't see it, ESPN Outside the Lines did an interview with Oregon Head Coach Chip Kelly and a follow up story on the problems the Ducks football program has had recently.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4936765 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4936765)
The story is not flattering to Kelly or the Ducks program at all, but it is a good watch if you are interested in the story, or college football in general.
It is probably a good 15-20 minutes.
You should not respond to trolls like this sbr. ESPN clearly is biased, and you should not be a sounding board for their diatribes.
This stuff happens at every school in the country, you know. Why ESPN would go and single out Oregon like they are different is very hard to understand.
Quote from: Savonarola on February 23, 2010, 02:33:16 PM
Full article from the FREEP:
(snip)
One of the great things about Rodriguez is that those of us who want to see him replaced by Harbaugh don't need to root for on-field failures - he will doom himself.
Now would be the perfect time to fire him.
Quote from: grumbler on February 24, 2010, 12:37:37 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on February 23, 2010, 02:33:16 PM
Full article from the FREEP:
(snip)
One of the great things about Rodriguez is that those of us who want to see him replaced by Harbaugh don't need to root for on-field failures - he will doom himself.
Now would be the perfect time to fire him.
Is Harbaugh interested? Didn't he just sign an extension at Stanford?
Quote from: Berkut on February 24, 2010, 01:36:30 PM
Is Harbaugh interested? Didn't he just sign an extension at Stanford?
Yes. Yes, but we know it has one out.
Harbaugh got a new 50,000 dollar bathroom paid for by some rich guy at Stanford. I bet he stays.
I would, if I got the Cadillac of toilets.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 24, 2010, 06:40:55 PM
Harbaugh got a new 50,000 dollar bathroom paid for by some rich guy at Stanford. I bet he stays.
I'd take that bet.
QuoteI would, if I got the Cadillac of toilets.
I wouldn't object to you taking the Stanford job
and the toilet.
If it is all that, thogh, he would probably bring it with him to Ann Arbor. Unlike Columbus, Ann Arbor has running water.
hiss.
I bet 6 quatloos.
Any catch the end of the Arizona-Stanford game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwyoUZ5p3tM&feature=player_embedded#
Quote from: Berkut on February 28, 2010, 10:43:21 PM
Any catch the end of the Arizona-Stanford game?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwyoUZ5p3tM&feature=player_embedded#
Wrong sport, Berkut.
Oops.
Defending the Ducks:
QuoteThe Oregon football team's series of police blotter appearances is disturbing, but let's get a grip.
Contentions that coach Chip Kelly has lost control of his program, or that he has a double-standard approach to discipline or that the UO football team has unleashed some sort of reign of terror in Eugene are hyperbolic and unsupportable.
The Ducks' missteps hardly are unique in the high-stakes world of major college football, where approximately 100 young men land on a college campus because they are bigger, faster, stronger and more aggressive than your average person.
In fact, the Ducks' list of three misdemeanor assault charges and a DUII citation are small potatoes compared to what has happened elsewhere in the Pacific-10 Conference in the past 10 years.
- In 2000, star University of Washington linebacker Jeremiah Pharms robbed, then shot a guy who had sold him drugs. The bullet just missed the drug dealer's liver. That was the marquee incident, but at least 14 UW members of the 2000 team that played in the Rose Bowl were accused of crimes including hit-and-run, animal cruelty, punching a security guard, DUII, attacking a fraternity, sexual assault, vandalizing automobiles, domestic violence, assaulting a parking attendant.
- In 2002, four UCLA players were charged with assault and a fifth dismissed from the team for fighting. And that followed a season in which the quarterback had two drunken driving beefs and the star running back was suspended for violating NCAA extra benefit rules.
- In 2004, an Arizona State tailback was suspended for accepting extra benefits, another for slugging a teammate. In the spring of 2005, fresh from being reinstated, running back Loren Wade shot and killed former a former ASU player outside a Scottsdale, Ariz. nightclub. He was convicted of second-degree murder.
- In 2005, Oregon State players had a litany of problems, from an accusations of assault on a national guardsmen, to trying to pay cab fare with marijuana, to a driving drunk with a stolen sheep in the back of a pickup, to providing alcohol to a minor who died of binge drinking.
- In an 18-month period in 2005 and 2006, at least 25 Washington State players were arrested or charged with a criminal offense. In one, a star linebacker broke into an apartment and clubbed one of the residents with a frying pan, fracturing his cheekbone. In another, a player soaked a teamamte's contact lenses in rubbing alcohol after a dispute over an unpaid cable television bill.
I'm not absolving Kelly or Oregon of anything. And what has happened elsewhere doesn't mean UO athletes shouldn't be held to a high standard.
Charges that running back LaMichael James and kicker Rob Beard assaulted women are serious, and the thought of two UO kickers in the middle of a street brawl near campus is a little unnerving.
That said, we should note most of the participants in the brawl apparently were not football players.
In fact, most members of the Oregon football team don't seem to have done anything but get painted an ugly shade of not-very-fair by a very broad brush.
Kelly dismissed walk-on defensive end Matt Simms, who allegedly assaulted a fellow student, and receiver Jamere Holland, who capped a checkered two years at Oregon by disrespecting Kelly on his Facebook page.
The coach suspended linebacker Kiko Alonso, who was cited for DUII, for the entire 2010 season.
To me, that seems tough, hands-on and in control.
Kelly contends he hasn't acted on James because he doesn't have all the evidence.
OK, give him that one. But hold him to it.
If the charges against James stick, or if the theft accusation leveled at quarterback Jeremiah Masoli turns out to be substantive, expect Kelly to come down as hard on his All-America candidates as he did on the scrubs.
If he doesn't, there will be both time and reason for outrage.
In the meantime, let's slow down in the rush to judgment so we don't fumble away perspective.
It is nice that someone is going to bat for the poor OU program. Lord knows they ahve been blasted aplenty.
Kind of dissapointed in the result though - his basic argument is that we should nto worry too much about some pretty incredibly horrible stuff because...other horrible stuff has happened elsewhere?
I mean, the examples he cited were all universally panned as being pretty terrible examples of the very worst of college athletics, and the thugs that sometimes show up, especially in programs that value winning at any and all costs.
I think he actually makes just the opposite conclusion - that OU, by being comparable to those programs, is in fact doing something wrong, since I don't think anyone thought that Loren Wade shooting someone was just "business as usual" just like Blount going crazy and attacking people and then Chip welcoming him back to the team with open arms was "business as usual".
I love this comment:
Quote
That said, we should note most of the participants in the brawl apparently were not football players.
Oh well, since most of the people involved were NOT football players, I guess that means that the football players involved were....not responsible? Not really there? What, exactly? Is it ok to be in a brawl as long as the other people in the brawl aren't football players?
Bizarre.
QuoteOn Wednesday that quarterback, junior Jeremiah Masoli, was charged with second-degree burglary. The running back, freshman LaMichael James, planned to change his original not-guilty plea in a domestic-violence incident.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE, MOVE ALONG, MOVE ALONG!
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2010/03/oregon_ducks_lamichael_james_c.html
QuoteOregon Ducks' LaMichael James pleads guilty to physical harassment, gets 24 months' probation
EUGENE – Oregon running back LaMichael James pleaded guilty to one count of physical harassment Friday in Lane County Circuit Court in connection with a Feb. 15 domestic-violence incident and agreed to 24 months' probation.
James, 20, initially was charged with five misdemeanors: one count of strangulation, two counts of fourth-degree assault and two charges of physical harassment. All charges but the one on physical harassment were dismissed this morning.
Reading from a plea agreement, James' lawyer said James would serve 24 months probation and 10 days in custody, with credit for the time he already spent in jail. He said James would have no contact with the victim, whom the lawyer identified as James' "ex-girlfriend."
James spent two nights in jail after his arrest, meaning he has eight days left to serve. But in a news conference after the hearing, Lane County district attorney Alex Gardner said that James would be unlikely to serve that time in jail because of overcrowding.
According to court documents, James is eligible for "alternative court programs," which could include community service work. James must report to the Lane County sheriff by 4 p.m. today to learn what that service would be.
The agreement allows James back on campus, which he was barred from previously, endangering his academic standing.
After the six-minute hearing, James and two men with him, apparently lawyers, left the courtroom through a door near the judge and did not speak with reporters.
James' 8:30 a.m. arraignment began an ignominious day for the Oregon football program, which has seen nine players get into public trouble in the past seven weeks. At 1:30 p.m. this afternoon quarterback Jeremiah Masoli, 21, and wide receiver Garrett Embry are scheduled to enter pleas to second-degree burglary – a felony – in connection with thefts from a Eugene fraternity house that were reported to police on Jan. 24. On Feb. 1, Oregon announced that Embry had been dismissed from the program on Jan. 8 for a violation of team rules.
Gardner had no comment on Masoli's upcoming appearance while meeting with reporters after James' session ended.
I also heard a report on the radio this morning that Masoli's locker had been cleared out but I haven't seen that reported anywhere else yet.
Millers blog has a link to the court document that spells out what both parties agreed happened in regards to James.
Sounds like a pretty regrettable, but hardly damning, incident.
On the one hand, on the face of it and only looking at this particular incident, I might consider (if I were Chip Kelley) how harsh his punishment needs to be in regards to his status with the team.
On the other hand, with all the problems Oregon is having, coming down hard on James may be the only option.
Quote from: PDH on February 03, 2010, 10:40:49 PM
Wyoming signed a linebacker from Munich Germany. We will eat up opposing offenses.
Half American or treue kraut? Fresh off the boat?
I think it would be fantastic if Europe starting generating talent.
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Quote
Oregon QB Masoli suspended for next season
Oregon quarterback Jeremiah Masoli was suspended Friday for the upcoming season by coach Chip Kelly after pleading guilty to second-degree burglary in the theft of a pair of laptops and a guitar from a campus fraternity.
By ANNE M. PETERSON
AP Sports Writer
Oregon quarterback Jeremiah Masoli was suspended Friday for the upcoming season by coach Chip Kelly after pleading guilty to second-degree burglary in the theft of a pair of laptops and a guitar from a campus fraternity.
Masoli, who had been mentioned as a potential Heisman candidate, will remain on scholarship with the Ducks.
"He does have a redshirt season available to him if he chooses to do that," Kelly said.
Kelly announced the suspension just hours after Masoli appeared in Lane County Circuit Court to answer to the burglary charge.
Kelly, who has come under fire for some of his disciplinary decisions, also meted out punishment for running back LaMichael James and placekicker Rob Beard.
James was suspended for the season opener after he pleaded guilty early Friday to a misdemeanor harassment charge stemming from an altercation with his former girlfriend.
Beard was also suspended for the opener Sept. 4 at home against New Mexico after pleading guilty last week to a misdemeanor harassment charge for his role in a street fight that left him seriously injured.
"I am extremely disappointed anytime any of our players fall short of our expectations that have been clearly outlined for them in advance on numerous occasions, and this is especially true regarding their roles within the community," Kelly said. "Their accountability for their actions is paramount and any tainting of the reputation of the University of Oregon and this football program will not be tolerated."
Masoli pleaded guilty as part of a deal that reduced his charge from a felony to a misdemeanor. Former Ducks receiver Garrett Embry pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of second-degree burglary as well.
Both were sentenced to 12 months of probation and 140 hours of community service. Together they must also pay $5,000 restitution.
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Waits for, "Yeah like he will really miss the whole year".... :P
Even if he does miss the entire year that seems awfully lenient for a guy who already has a burglary charge on his record (IIRC).
Quote from: sbr on March 12, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Waits for, "Yeah like he will really miss the whole year".... :P
Even if he does miss the entire year that seems awfully lenient for a guy who already has a burglary charge on his record (IIRC).
I love that the penalty will not actually involve losing any eligibility.
Felony burglary for the star QB? Take a redshirt year.
Backup disses the coach on FB? ZOMG YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2010, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 12, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Waits for, "Yeah like he will really miss the whole year".... :P
Even if he does miss the entire year that seems awfully lenient for a guy who already has a burglary charge on his record (IIRC).
I love that the penalty will not actually involve losing any eligibility.
Felony burglary for the star QB? Take a redshirt year.
Backup disses the coach on FB? ZOMG YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!
First off he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, he could not have stayed on the team if he pleaded to a felony. :contract: ;)
Hopefully this Darron Thomas kid we have been waiting 2 years for now will make Masoli's last year of eligibility irrelevant.
Quote from: sbr on March 13, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2010, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 12, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Waits for, "Yeah like he will really miss the whole year".... :P
Even if he does miss the entire year that seems awfully lenient for a guy who already has a burglary charge on his record (IIRC).
I love that the penalty will not actually involve losing any eligibility.
Felony burglary for the star QB? Take a redshirt year.
Backup disses the coach on FB? ZOMG YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!
First off he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, he could not have stayed on the team if he pleaded to a felony. :contract: ;)
Whatever - the FB guy didn't rob anyone at all, and he got kicked off the team.
Chip is showing how important it is to him that his players don't talk back to him, and don't commit robbery.
The one good thing about all this is that in the future when people refer to OU as "thug-U" you won't have to wonder what they could possibly mean! :)
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2010, 04:20:31 PM
Quote from: sbr on March 13, 2010, 01:36:40 AM
Quote from: Berkut on March 13, 2010, 12:48:44 AM
Quote from: sbr on March 12, 2010, 08:53:53 PM
Quote from: katmai on March 12, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Hey Berk and sbr.
Decision has come down on Masoli
Waits for, "Yeah like he will really miss the whole year".... :P
Even if he does miss the entire year that seems awfully lenient for a guy who already has a burglary charge on his record (IIRC).
I love that the penalty will not actually involve losing any eligibility.
Felony burglary for the star QB? Take a redshirt year.
Backup disses the coach on FB? ZOMG YOU ARE OFF THE TEAM!
First off he pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor, he could not have stayed on the team if he pleaded to a felony. :contract: ;)
Whatever - the FB guy didn't rob anyone at all, and he got kicked off the team.
Chip is showing how important it is to him that his players don't talk back to him, and don't commit robbery.
The one good thing about all this is that in the future when people refer to OU as "thug-U" you won't have to wonder what they could possibly mean! :)
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Here is what everybody needs, an Ohio State update! From some faggit at ESPN:
QuoteMy apologies for the tardiness of this post, as I had to get to several other items today. But to answer several of you, I was in Columbus on Friday visiting with Ohio State. I'll take a more in-depth look at Ohio State later this week, but here are some thoughts and tidbits from my trip to central Ohio.
* Buckeyes head coach Jim Tressel had an interesting comment about his team's last two bowl appearances. While most fans wouldn't group the Fiesta Bowl loss to Texas with the Rose Bowl win against Oregon, Tressel doesn't see much difference between how his team performed, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. "A year ago this time, we were coming off a very tough game with Texas, a very good team and really, we played very well," Tressel told me. "Fast-forward a year, and we played against a very good Oregon team. I don't know if we played as well this year in our bowl game as we did a year ago in our bowl game, but we won." Ohio State certainly looked more dominant in the Rose Bowl than the Fiesta, but the competition in Glendale was a little stronger as well.
* Etienne Sabino has the inside track for Ohio State's third starting linebacker spot alongside Ross Homan and Brian Rolle. "He's the guy," co-defensive coordinator/linebackers coach Luke Fickell said after Friday's practice. "I know he's going to be a junior, but he's still only 19 years old. You'd like to have more time with him, but he's coming along. This has been his best spring so far." There was a lot of buzz about Sabino last summer, but Ohio State went with experience (Austin Spitler) when the season rolled around. It sounds like Sabino is ready to take the next step in 2010.
* Speaking of high praise, Rolle gave some to defensive lineman John Simon, who appeared in all 12 games as a true freshman last year and should see significant playing time this fall. Rolle expects Simon to earn All-America honors before his career is done, in large part because of the work he does in the weight room and the film room. "If somebody's going to try to outwork him, they'll going to have to work really hard," Rolle said. "And he's going to outwork that effort. He's going to be a guy who will be a star here the next couple of years." Rolle also is seeing good signs from Solomon Thomas, who is stepping into the Leo (rush end) spot vacated by Thaddeus Gibson. Thomas could have a tough time beating out Nathan Williams, who has had a good spring.
* Terrelle Pryor showed no limitations from offseason knee surgery in practice and moved around well. He has some obvious chemistry with DeVier Posey and Dane Sanzenbacher, but Ohio State needs a No. 3 wide receiver to emerge. The hope is Taurian Washington can take that role, although Duron Carter should re-enter the mix when he gets out of Tressel's dog house. Chris Fields is another name to watch at wideout.
* Devon Torrence didn't have the best day, but I still like his potential at cornerback. Torrence is an excellent athlete who could be a factor on punt returns, and he displays good aggressiveness going after the ball. I liked what I saw from Donnie Evege, who won't start at corner but could work his way into the rotation there. Evege made several nice plays during a red zone passing drill.
* Jaamal Berry worked mainly with the third-team offense Friday, and the redshirt freshman running back has several players to leapfrog on the depth chart. I like his power with the ball, and though Jordan Hall isn't a big guy, he's pretty crafty and runs hard. Dan Herron appeared to hurt his ribs midway through practice, so I didn't see too much of him.
* Homan is the senior member of the linebacking corps, but I really like the vocal leadership Rolle provides. He said he has always been a talker, but as a senior coming off of a strong 2009 season, he'll command more respect this fall.
Duron in the doghouse? What a shocker. Ray Small stayed in it for 4 years.