Brilliant response to this nutjob.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/12/15/census-latinos-boycott/
QuoteLatino Group Invokes The Bible To Counter A Pastor's Census Boycott Campaign, Encourage Participation
Earlier this year, the Rev. Miguel Rivera, chairman of the National Coalition of Latino Clergy and Christian Leaders, began encouraging a full-out boycott of the U.S. Census on behalf of the Latino and immigrant community in protest of the failure to enact immigration reform. Rivera's efforts have been widely perceived as damaging to the Latino and immigrant community he claims to be empowering. In response, the National Association of Latino Elected Officials (NALEO) has started using the Bible to target religious Latinos with a different message: What would Jesus do?
NALEO is handing out posters that illustrate the arrival of Mary and Joseph in Bethlehem. NALEO explains that the Gospel of Luke indicates that the reason Jesus was born in Bethlehem is because Joseph and Mary were fulfilling their civic duty by returning to the town to be counted by the Roman census. A poster printed by NALEO reads: "This is how Jesus was born, Joseph and Mary participated in the Census." Nick Kimball, spokesman at the Commerce Department (which oversees the Census Bureau), said that the government played no role in creating the posters.
However, Rivera calls NALEO's new campaign a "blasphemous" "assault against our Christian faith" and accuses the group of violating "the concept of separation of church and state." Rivera, who has been using his position as an influential religious leader to promote his boycott, seems to be missing the irony. A lot of Rivera's own critics have quietly accused him of staging a personal publicity stunt at the expense of his own community. Publicly, they have described him as a "misguided figure who could cause the loss of billions of federal dollars to Latino neighborhoods that need it most." Even Latino pastors have affirmed that "a man of the cloth should not be pushing Latinos to do something that will ultimately hurt their community."
Whether the poster is in poor taste or not, NALEO is responding to Rivera on his own turf by making an explicit religious appeal. The Pew Hispanic Research Center estimates that one in every six Latinos belongs to an evangelical church. Undocumented immigrants are among the least likely to participate in the Census and the Drum Major Institute warns that their non-participation could lead to inaccurate demographic information and result in costly mistakes in infrastructure, education, health care planning, and representation.
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Both sides can take a flying leap. If they don't want to be counted, don't bother counting them. Btw, isn't it odd that "immigration reform" in this country usually refers to rolling out the red carpet & giving citizenship to illegals & their families?
Not all of them are willing to marry some poor schlub from West Virginia to gain their citizenship!
Quote from: katmai on December 15, 2009, 09:25:08 PM
Not all of them are willing to marry some poor schlub from West Virginia to gain their citizenship!
It's ok, as punishment for letting in an argie into the US derspiess's desendents shall forever carry the shame of being hispanic. Fates a bitch (and not just the poster either :P )
Dumb dumb dumb protest.
Quote from: katmai on December 15, 2009, 09:25:08 PM
Not all of them are willing to marry some poor schlub from West Virginia to gain their citizenship!
:mad:
It's every native-born American's right to marry a hot foreigner who wants a green card.
Quote from: derspiess on December 15, 2009, 09:11:55 PM
Both sides can take a flying leap. If they don't want to be counted, don't bother counting them. Btw, isn't it odd that "immigration reform" in this country usually refers to rolling out the red carpet & giving citizenship to illegals & their families?
Reagan set the precedent. :rolleyes:
Don't get pissy because they didn't drink the GOP koolaid.
What exactly would you like immigration reform to look like? Cement walls and armed patrols?
I don't necessarily disagree with your idea that reform equals rolling out the welcome wagon, and I certainly hold no sympathies for Mexican immigrants, but your views are a bit too harsh for my tastes. Surely there is room for compromise?
Quote from: Jaron on December 16, 2009, 01:09:23 AM
What exactly would you like immigration reform to look like? Cement walls and armed patrols?
I don't necessarily disagree with your idea that reform equals rolling out the welcome wagon, and I certainly hold no sympathies for Mexican immigrants, but your views are a bit too harsh for my tastes. Surely there is room for compromise?
Why are you so self loathing? :weep:
I'm not.
Should they be encouraging marital infidelity among Latinos like that?
Quote from: Martinus on December 16, 2009, 01:32:45 AM
Should they be encouraging marital infidelity among Latinos like that?
I knew as soon as I saw you posted here it would be a classless attack on Christianity instead of one addressing the political issue at hand. Thanks for not disappointing me. :)
Hey, I didn't invent your religion and made a slut and her husband (who was either extremely gullible or had a cuckold fetish) parents of your god.
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Quote from: Martinus on December 16, 2009, 01:32:45 AM
Should they be encouraging marital infidelity among Latinos like that?
They weren't married yet.
Once again, a completely predictable response. Seriously Marty, a 14 year old girl could make you dance like a puppet. Lame. :thumbsdown:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
Once again, a completely predictable response. Seriously Marty, a 14 year old girl could make you dance like a puppet. Lame. :thumbsdown:
Only if her name is Jadwiga!
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 16, 2009, 01:44:12 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 16, 2009, 01:32:45 AM
Should they be encouraging marital infidelity among Latinos like that?
They weren't married yet.
They were on a break. :D
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
Once again, a completely predictable response. Seriously Marty, a 14 year old girl could make you dance like a puppet. Lame. :thumbsdown:
Well the entire campaign/shtick of this poster is ridiculous. How about advocating traveling large distances on a donkey - it was what Joseph and Mary did too. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Martinus on December 16, 2009, 01:53:00 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 01:45:32 AM
Once again, a completely predictable response. Seriously Marty, a 14 year old girl could make you dance like a puppet. Lame. :thumbsdown:
Well the entire campaign/shtick of this poster is ridiculous. How about advocating traveling large distances on a donkey - it was what Joseph and Mary did too. :rolleyes:
Maybe because that would have nothing to do with the situation at hand? Seriously are you really that thick?
Quote from: HVC on December 15, 2009, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 15, 2009, 09:25:08 PM
Not all of them are willing to marry some poor schlub from West Virginia to gain their citizenship!
It's ok, as punishment for letting in an argie into the US derspiess's desendents shall forever carry the shame of being hispanic. Fates a bitch (and not just the poster either :P )
a funny thing since there's probably more Italian and German blood in Argentina than anything else. Only needs some Irish and voilà, a perfect USian :p
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 16, 2009, 02:48:24 AM
Quote from: HVC on December 15, 2009, 09:43:03 PM
Quote from: katmai on December 15, 2009, 09:25:08 PM
Not all of them are willing to marry some poor schlub from West Virginia to gain their citizenship!
It's ok, as punishment for letting in an argie into the US derspiess's desendents shall forever carry the shame of being hispanic. Fates a bitch (and not just the poster either :P )
a funny thing since there's probably more Italian and German blood in Argentina than anything else. Only needs some Irish and voilà, a perfect USian :p
Yeah i didn't feel like correcting the Canuckchop.
And yet because they speak Spanish, they are inferior to the civilized races.
Wait....Wasn't the census forcing all the Jews to go back to their hometown a bad thing?
Sure, it ultimatly led to Jesus being born in Bethlehem instead of elsewhere but so what? Rome=baaaad.
Dumb on both sides, though I'd tend to agree with the "What would Jesus do" side more, and that they should be counted. But if Hispanics choose not to be counted, due to protesting the lack of reform (some ideas which probably many Americans disagree with anyway) it's their loss.
Quote from: Jaron on December 16, 2009, 01:09:23 AM
What exactly would you like immigration reform to look like? Cement walls and armed patrols?
Not necessarily armed patrols. Massive minefields and large numbers of killer robot droids would be OK too.
Quote from: dps on December 16, 2009, 04:42:24 PMNot necessarily armed patrols. Massive minefields and large numbers of killer robot droids would be OK too.
Killer robot droids might not be a good idea. If they're hacked, you could get fucked.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on December 16, 2009, 01:57:04 AMMaybe because that would have nothing to do with the situation at hand? Seriously are you really that thick?
Grallon has taught you well it seems, caring more about thickness than length.
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on December 16, 2009, 02:48:24 AM
a funny thing since there's probably more Italian and German blood in Argentina than anything else. Only needs some Irish and voilà, a perfect USian :p
Several Irish made it down there, actually. My mother in law's grandfather was Irish. Not sure if I'll ever tell my kid about it :ph34r:
Erin go braugh
Also, one of my son's middle names is named for an Irish Revolutionary. Wolfe Tone.
Fuck the English.
Quote from: Jacob on December 16, 2009, 04:52:19 PM
Quote from: dps on December 16, 2009, 04:42:24 PMNot necessarily armed patrols. Massive minefields and large numbers of killer robot droids would be OK too.
Killer robot droids might not be a good idea. If they're hacked, you could get fucked.
Just make them unhackable.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Also, one of my son's middle names is named for an Irish Revolutionary. Wolfe Tone.
Fuck the English.
Wow. You and CdM are quite the pair of micks, aren't you?
That is outrageous why would the Roman Empire conduct a census in a client Kingdom?! Un-historical nonsense! :mad:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on December 15, 2009, 11:49:52 PM
:mad:
It's every native-born American's right to marry a hot foreigner who wants a green card.
:yes:
:perv:
Quote from: Neil on December 16, 2009, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Also, one of my son's middle names is named for an Irish Revolutionary. Wolfe Tone.
Fuck the English.
Wow. You and CdM are quite the pair of micks, aren't you?
I'm not irish. I'm a mutt.
Quote from: Neil on December 16, 2009, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Also, one of my son's middle names is named for an Irish Revolutionary. Wolfe Tone.
Fuck the English.
Wow. You and CdM are quite the pair of micks, aren't you?
Give me some good names of Englishmen who persecuted the Irish. Might start trying for another kid, and I need a name I can use to offset Mr. Micklover's kid's name.
Quote from: derspiess on December 17, 2009, 04:59:09 PM
Quote from: Neil on December 16, 2009, 08:40:49 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 16, 2009, 05:28:40 PM
Also, one of my son's middle names is named for an Irish Revolutionary. Wolfe Tone.
Fuck the English.
Wow. You and CdM are quite the pair of micks, aren't you?
Give me some good names of Englishmen who persecuted the Irish. Might start trying for another kid, and I need a name I can use to offset Mr. Micklover's kid's name.
Dude, you can't outbreed me.
:lol:
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 17, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Dude, you can't outbreed me.
You got me there. My wife's probably old enough to be your mother in law :P
Quote from: derspiess on December 17, 2009, 05:16:04 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 17, 2009, 05:00:06 PM
Dude, you can't outbreed me.
You got me there. My wife's probably old enough to be your mother in law :P
Ow. Et tu?
Maybe Meagher for the next kid.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 17, 2009, 06:20:05 PM
Ow. Et tu?
You lobbed me a softball-- I had to swing at it :D