Poll
Question:
What should Arkestra buy
Option 1: Pee ess three
Option 2: ecks bocks
Ok, so I'm in a position to invest in a games console. I hear that the XBox has a better spread of gaming options.
However, I'm keen for it to also be an effective media centre. On this I am told the PS3 is superior.
What say Languish?
Xbox.
Even sony is dropping support of his Cell processor.
voted ps3 even though I've used - neither. I like the media center more than the gaming centre as I'm not that hardcore on games.
Despite early promise much in the way of good games have yet to appear on PS3. The 360 has some alright ones on the other han.
PS3 and a PC
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on November 30, 2009, 01:32:19 PM
PS3 and a PC
Yep. PS3 is also supposed to be best Blu-Ray player out there due to CPU power
I'd go for PS3 largely to be able to buy and play Blu-Ray. You can also watch iplayer HD through your PS3, I know someone who downloaded the 'Life' episodes as they came out and said they were amazing.
Playing games over the interweb is free in the Ps3, while Microshit charges 50 bucks for a year of their membershit.
Both groups of players are fucktards, so it is a wash.
Free online games for ps3, can play movies from your computer through a network easily on the ps3, and great blu-ray player.
Quote from: Warspite on November 30, 2009, 12:39:20 PM
Ok, so I'm in a position to invest in a games console. I hear that the XBox has a better spread of gaming options.
However, I'm keen for it to also be an effective media centre. On this I am told the PS3 is superior.
What say Languish?
I own both consoles, so here's my two cents:
The PS3 has a very good multimedia system (and is a strong Blu-Ray player) and has a stronger CPU (which most games do not take advantage of). You can get specialized boxes [blu-ray or games] with a larger 250GB disk. The 'slim' version fixes the DTS/HD and TrueHD sound issues of the older PS3.
(the 'slideshow' mode that shows your images like a photo album is a hoot)
The Xbox, though weaker in media and having a lesser CPU, plays games better [and if you hook it to your tv via a VGA cable, shows a very crisp image] and has the best online component, as well as the achievement system. Get the Elite version, it comes with a 120GB hard disk and a HDMI connection.
Both have interesting exclusive games.
My choice:
Pure gaming - Xbox 360
For media - PS3.
Oh, one thing: the PS3 talks much about Hi-Def. But when you unbox it, you'll notice that you are provided only with SD cables. You'll then be informed by the manual that Hi-Def cables are 'sold separately'.
EPIC FAIL.
Quote from: Martim Silva on November 30, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
Oh, one thing: the PS3 talks much about Hi-Def. But when you unbox it, you'll notice that you are provided only with SD cables. You'll then be informed by the manual that Hi-Def cables are 'sold separately'.
EPIC FAIL.
Hey, cables are the best scam running these days.
I don't have a PS3 but I used my brother's while home for Thanksgiving. I would say that the Xbox is your best bet for just gaming, but at least for me, playing Modern Warfare 2 on the Playstation's controller versus the Xbox's made me realize how superior the PS3's controller is. I wish I could plug one into my 360.
In short, I null vote. :blush:
Play Station has funny advertissments. :)
Playstation 3... it will only get better.
Bobox is unreliable. Red Ring of Death and scratches DVDs. Even the Elite which is not the common hence has not improved as much as the Arcade.
More shooters but if you've got a PC, there's no need for it.
Most of the time, there is no native 1080p on the Xbox (only matters for Full HD though) and HDMI are not that expensive anymore.
It looks cheaper but is not thanks to its kit approach. Want Wi-fi or a bigger hard drive ? Prepare to pay for overpriced Microsoft hardware.
Standard Xbox pads use batteries :lol:
The games dearth was the PS3 weak point but it's a thing of the past. Now, even former Xbox exclusives are better such as Tales of Vesperia (RPG) or Ninja Gaiden Sigma II (beat them all).
Beat them all? How french of you.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 01, 2009, 05:09:25 AM
Bobox is unreliable. Red Ring of Death and scratches DVDs.
RROD is a lot less common these days, and the warranty should alleviate any fears. Have never had mine scratch a disc.
QuoteEven the Elite which is not the common hence has not improved as much as the Arcade.
More shooters but if you've got a PC, there's no need for it.
The Arcade had been selling a lot more swiftly than the Elite, so there had been a lot of older Elites out there still in stores. The price drop, sales, & rebates that knocked the Elite price down to $200 temporarily helped clear out that old stock. The Elites with the newer chipset are just as good as the Arcades with the newer chipset.
QuoteMost of the time, there is no native 1080p on the Xbox (only matters for Full HD though) and HDMI are not that expensive anymore.
There are quite a few games & now lots of video content from the marketplace that run in full 1080p. FWIW, Sony only requires PS3 games to be 540p.
You're correct on the HDMI cables, though. I pay about $5 apiece for mine, and they work just as well as the expensive ones.
QuoteIt looks cheaper but is not thanks to its kit approach. Want Wi-fi or a bigger hard drive ? Prepare to pay for overpriced Microsoft hardware.
But only if you need that stuff. I agree that the Wifi adapter is criminally priced (though there are ethernet->Wifi bridges out there that are cheaper alternatives), and the hard drive thing is retarded. Neither thing really affects me, though.
QuoteStandard Xbox pads use batteries :lol:
Is that funny? :huh: Anyway, you can use rechargeable batteries, or find a deal on the battery packs.
QuoteThe games dearth was the PS3 weak point but it's a thing of the past. Now, even former Xbox exclusives are better such as Tales of Vesperia (RPG) or Ninja Gaiden Sigma II (beat them all).
Not sure what the market is like over there, but here there is still a much wider selection of 360 games, and you are much more likely to find deals on them. I believe there tends to be more downloadable content for games on the 360, as well.
I agree with Martim (for once)-- get a PS3 if you want the blu-ray player & a great media experience (PS3 is UPnP, so there's lots you can do with it). But if games are more important, a 360 is the way to go.
I'd also mention that I like the 360's interface a lot more than the PS3's, and I think the 360 has a richer online experience, for what that's worth.
Quote from: Martim Silva on November 30, 2009, 06:41:05 PM
The PS3 has a very good multimedia system (and is a strong Blu-Ray player) and has a stronger CPU (which most games do not take advantage of). You can get specialized boxes [blu-ray or games] with a larger 250GB disk. The 'slim' version fixes the DTS/HD and TrueHD sound issues of the older PS3.
Do you have the newer PS3 slim? I heard that while it consumes less power & fixes the audio issues like you mentioned, it takes twice as long to load a blu-ray movie.
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 11:28:44 AM
Do you have the newer PS3 slim? I heard that while it consumes less power & fixes the audio issues like you mentioned, it takes twice as long to load a blu-ray movie.
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My brother has both and didn't see any difference.
Wow, a lot of love for the PS3...
What games are coming for that soon?
It seems to me that the 360 has nigh on attracted the critical mass to make it the default system.
Quote from: Tyr on December 01, 2009, 11:42:53 AM
Wow, a lot of love for the PS3...
What games are coming for that soon?
It seems to me that the 360 has nigh on attracted the critical mass to make it the default system.
Yeah I'm a bit surprised as not too many months ago, the common voice seemed to be that Sony has completely mishandled its promotion of the system and that xbox was the way to go.
PS3
I have the slim and blu-ray seems to load pretty quickly... :unsure:
Quote from: Alcibiades on December 01, 2009, 04:19:48 PM
I have the slim and blu-ray seems to load pretty quickly... :unsure:
Here's what I was referring to:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/08/27/playstation-3-slim-review/
Scroll down to "Blu-ray Playback". I guess it's not that huge of a difference between the slim & older models, but the fact that the slim tested a little slower stuck out in my mind.
My Samsung player is pretty slow in loading Blu-rays. On one disc I bought for my kid it takes for ever just to get to the annoying 20-or so Disney previews :bleeding:
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2009, 07:30:03 AM
Beat them all? How french of you.
Les "keske" n'ont pas voix au chapitre. Beat them up si tu préfères :D
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 11:26:54 AM
QuoteMost of the time, there is no native 1080p on the Xbox (only matters for Full HD though) and HDMI are not that expensive anymore.
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There are quite a few games & now lots of video content from the marketplace that run in full 1080p. FWIW, Sony only requires PS3 games to be 540p.
576p is actually needed for Europe (Progressive Pal).
Keyword is native. Early X-Box (2006) had no HDMI port hence no 1080p be it upscaled or native. Ninja Gaiden Sigma in 2007 and II (2009) are 1080p for instance.
QuoteIt looks cheaper but is not thanks to its kit approach. Want Wi-fi or a bigger hard drive ? Prepare to pay for overpriced Microsoft hardware.
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But only if you need that stuff. I agree that the Wifi adapter is criminally priced (though there are ethernet->Wifi bridges out there that are cheaper alternatives), and the hard drive thing is retarded. Neither thing really affects me, though.
HDD helps if you want to enjoy offers in the x-box live.
QuoteStandard Xbox pads use batteries :lol:
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Is that funny? :huh: Anyway, you can use rechargeable batteries, or find a deal on the battery packs.
Well, paying for batteries is kind of sad actually, when you could be recharging for free ;)
QuoteThe games dearth was the PS3 weak point but it's a thing of the past. Now, even former Xbox exclusives are better such as Tales of Vesperia (RPG) or Ninja Gaiden Sigma II (beat them all).
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Not sure what the market is like over there, but here there is still a much wider selection of 360 games, and you are much more likely to find deals on them. I believe there tends to be more downloadable content for games on the 360, as well.
Wider selection? Depends on the genres. Shooters and sports namely racing/driving for sure. As for RPGs and especially T-RPGs that's not true cf. Disgaea 3 and Valkyria Chronicles.
Deals over here with the UK included are easy to find for both consoles. It has never been so cheap. That's another strong point of the PS3:no regional coding and the blu-ray makes it easier to have multi-language versions. Japanese imports are still pricier but work on all consoles and are sometimes localized (Bayonetta). No need to wait for the European release of God of War compilation in 720p etc.
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I agree with Martim (for once)-- get a PS3 if you want the blu-ray player & a great media experience (PS3 is UPnP, so there's lots you can do with it). But if games are more important, a 360 is the way to go.
I'd also mention that I like the 360's interface a lot more than the PS3's, and I think the 360 has a richer online experience, for what that's worth.
I must confess that I bought it for blu-ray and games ;)
Personal preference. You can customise it anyways.
PS3 all the way... not only the PS3 is the best or one of the best blu-ray players available, that CPU also means the PS3 upscales conventional DVDs very well to 1080p.
The thing with the XBox vs. PS3 debate is this: 2 years ago when I was buying a console and asked the same question, people used the same argument: "Sure, XBox may have more and better games now, but PS3 is the console of the future".
2 years later they are saying the same - interpret this as you will but to me, considering how cheap both are and that you are likely to buy a new console in 2-3 years from now anyway, I'd get XBox. PS3 seems like a dud.
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on December 02, 2009, 03:22:53 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on December 01, 2009, 07:30:03 AM
Beat them all? How french of you.
Les "keske" n'ont pas voix au chapitre. Beat them up si tu préfères :D
Ognon is now accepted. My time is coming!
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2009, 06:07:59 AM
The thing with the XBox vs. PS3 debate is this: 2 years ago when I was buying a console and asked the same question, people used the same argument: "Sure, XBox may have more and better games now, but PS3 is the console of the future".
2 years later they are saying the same - interpret this as you will but to me, considering how cheap both are and that you are likely to buy a new console in 2-3 years from now anyway, I'd get XBox. PS3 seems like a dud.
For a non-hardcore gamer like you or me, PS3 is the better choice. You bought an Xbox because that faggotty Fable 2 was only for that :P
PS3 it is then.
Quote from: derspiess on December 01, 2009, 11:28:44 AM
Do you have the newer PS3 slim? I heard that while it consumes less power & fixes the audio issues like you mentioned, it takes twice as long to load a blu-ray movie.
The slim, 250Gb version.
Yes, it has a smaller power consumption, does not make noise while playing, and is able to play DTS/HD and TrueHD sound formats, something lacking in the earlier PS3.
Load times are roughly the same, it only takes about 4-5 seconds more than the OPPO BDP-83 to load most movies.
The slim is basically a significant upgrade from the older PS3. I guess Sony thinks there won't be a fourth generation console war in the next few years...
(which is why I always found PCs superior on all fronts - they're always upgrading).
P.S. as for picture quality, the PS3 and Xbox 360 are the same, but if you hook the 360 with a VGA cable (instead of a component or HDMI one) that links to the TV via the PC socket, the picture quality becomes very crisp and pleasing.
I have no idea why.
Quote from: Martinus on December 02, 2009, 06:07:59 AM
2 years later they are saying the same - interpret this as you will but to me, considering how cheap both are and that you are likely to buy a new console in 2-3 years from now anyway, I'd get XBox. PS3 seems like a dud.
I wouldn't call the PS3 a dud. Now the PSP Go-- *that* is a dud.
Quote from: Warspite on December 02, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
PS3 it is then.
Start buying the HDMI cables... you'll need them.
Quote from: Warspite on December 02, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
PS3 it is then.
I've decided I'm definitely buying one as well within the next month. Might be a while before I buy any actual PS3 games for it, however.
Quote from: derspiess on December 03, 2009, 11:20:39 AM
Quote from: Warspite on December 02, 2009, 11:44:39 AM
PS3 it is then.
I've decided I'm definitely buying one as well within the next month. Might be a while before I buy any actual PS3 games for it, however.
I'll likely do the same thing soon, though I'll be forking out for a used first-gen 60GB model, since I do have over a dozen PS2 games and no PS2.
Quote from: vonmoltke on December 29, 2009, 08:31:59 AM
I'll likely do the same thing soon, though I'll be forking out for a used first-gen 60GB model, since I do have over a dozen PS2 games and no PS2.
I keep going back & forth on that. On one hand, if I got an older one, I could ditch my PS2 & would also be able to run Linux on it, which may or may not be pointless but I want to do it for the sheer geekiness of it.
On the other hand, the smaller size & reduced power consumption for the newer version is also attractive.
My brother bought a 120gb hard drive to replace his puny 20gb 360 drive, and gave me the 20gb drive since he no longer had any use for it. Always ready for a new project, I figured I'd do a little hardware hacking. I bought a 2.5" 250gb drive on buy.com for $55. Had to flash the firmware on the drive & spoof the serial #, but after a few short minutes I had 238GB of storage in my Xbox.
Had to put my 60GB drive back for the time being, until my transfer cable comes in & I can move all my game saves & other files.
Quote from: derspiess on December 29, 2009, 10:17:42 AM
Quote from: vonmoltke on December 29, 2009, 08:31:59 AM
I'll likely do the same thing soon, though I'll be forking out for a used first-gen 60GB model, since I do have over a dozen PS2 games and no PS2.
I keep going back & forth on that. On one hand, if I got an older one, I could ditch my PS2 & would also be able to run Linux on it, which may or may not be pointless but I want to do it for the sheer geekiness of it.
On the other hand, the smaller size & reduced power consumption for the newer version is also attractive.
Since part of my justification for a PS3 is to not replace my PS2, the first gen looks much more attractive. :P