TSG: Cop Tases 10-Year-Old Girl (http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/1118091taser1.html)
QuoteArkansas mother suggested stun gun treatment for unruly daughter
NOVEMBER 18--An Arkansas cop tasered an unruly 10-year-old girl after her mother called police to report that the child was crying, screaming, and refusing to go to bed. The tased girl, Kiara Medlock, is about 65 pounds and 4' 6", according to her father. Anthony Medlock, a truck driver who does not live with the fifth grader and her mother, provided TSG with a recent photo of his daughter, which can be seen at right. According to the below Ozark Police Department report, when Officer Dustin Bradshaw arrived at the residence last Thursday, he found the girl "screaming, kicking, and resisting every time her mother tried to touch her." Bradshaw added that, "Her mother told me to tase her if I needed to." After Kiara continued to refuse her mother's instructions, the cop concluded that "there was not going to be a peaceful resolution of the issue." Bradshaw warned the girl that she was "going to jail," but the child continued kicking and crying and resisted his attempt to handcuff her. During the tussle, Kiara "struck me with her legs and feet in the groin, reported Bradshaw, who countered with a brief "stun to her back" with his Taser. The child, not surprisingly, "immediately stopped resisting and was placed into handcuffs. She would not walk on her own and I had to carry her to my police car." Kiara was then transported to a youth shelter.
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Clusterfuck. They should issue licenses for parenting.
Also, Syt, your knee-jerk anti-American hysteria is duly noted.
I hope this trend develops and flight attendants begin to taser the motherfucking toddlers screaming their lungs out on a plane.
Oddly enough this makes my opinion of Arkansas rise.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 04:51:32 AM
Also, Syt, your knee-jerk anti-American hysteria is duly noted.
:huh:
Quote from: Syt on November 21, 2009, 04:52:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 04:51:32 AM
Also, Syt, your knee-jerk anti-American hysteria is duly noted.
:huh:
I figured Berkut is still asleep so I would say it instead. :P
That cop is a pussy.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 04:54:35 AM
Quote from: Syt on November 21, 2009, 04:52:50 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 04:51:32 AM
Also, Syt, your knee-jerk anti-American hysteria is duly noted.
:huh:
I figured Berkut is still asleep so I would say it instead. :P
Actually, while I do think that U.S. cops are a bit taser happy at times, I firmly believe that all parents should have tasers for cases like this.
Fuck tasers, this case calls for a belt.
Quoteher mother called police to report that the child was crying, screaming, and refusing to go to bed.
At that point, the appropriate response is to tell the mother, "That's not a police matter".
I've defended the actions of the police in the other threads we've had about the use of tasers, but this is just stupid. That the officeer tasered the girl isn't the problem so much as it's that the police shouldn't have been involved at all.
Man, martinus, really quick to legislate the rights to breeding as a homosexual, arent we?
I dont mind your constant homo rights tirade. I even support it to some small extent. But children are a right a man has, ah..
Edit: Arkansas always sucked. Especially this part.
If a cop is 'having a difficult time placing the cuffs' on a 10 year old he probably needs to find a new job
Quote from: Syt on November 21, 2009, 05:00:54 AM
Actually, while I do think that U.S. cops are a bit taser happy at times, I firmly believe that all parents should have tasers for cases like this.
Not quite. Those of us who have no children should be the ones with the tasers. Kid bothering you? Tase the whole family and problem solved.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on November 21, 2009, 05:05:21 AM
If a cop is 'having a difficult time placing the cuffs' on a 10 year old he probably needs to find a new job
These little bitches can be tough.
I'm glad to see some police officers haven't succumb to the liberal pressure and remain tough on crime and delinquency.
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
It's Arkansas folks, enough said.
Something I noticed: Report time 7pm. Is it common to send 10 year olds to bed at that time? I think I had 8 or 9 when I was that age. I know my (U.S. based) sister sent her daughter at that age to bed at 7, though (she'd often stay up in her room, watching some tv or playing before finally falling asleep).
Quote from: Syt on November 21, 2009, 08:00:17 AM
Something I noticed: Report time 7pm. Is it common to send 10 year olds to bed at that time? I think I had 8 or 9 when I was that age. I know my (U.S. based) sister sent her daughter at that age to bed at 7, though (she'd often stay up in her room, watching some tv or playing before finally falling asleep).
I can't remember what my bedtime was at that age, but probably around 9, except maybe on weekends.
Of course, bad children get earlier bedtimes.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on November 21, 2009, 05:05:21 AM
If a cop is 'having a difficult time placing the cuffs' on a 10 year old he probably needs to find a new job
If a cop decides he needs to place cuffs on a 10 year old because her mom cannot handle her, he needs a new job. So does mom.
Quote from: Lettow77 on November 21, 2009, 05:03:10 AM
Man, martinus, really quick to legislate the rights to breeding as a homosexual, arent we?
I dont mind your constant homo rights tirade. I even support it to some small extent. But children are a right a man has, ah..
Actually I think a big reason that such isn't done is because it is hard to do without seeming authoritarian like China and it is somewhat unfeasible to try to prevent people from having childre. Clearly if we require licenses for things like driving, we should "ideally"(?) require licenses for taking care of a child. There are so many ways to fuck up a child that it is sad when child is born to unfit parents.
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2009, 10:36:07 AM
If a cop decides he needs to place cuffs on a 10 year old because her mom cannot handle her, he needs a new job. So does mom.
If a cop HAS cuffs that fit on a 10 year old he needs a new job and a new psych exam.
That being said, Rochester City Police get called all the time to local schools to deal with kids 10 and younger (not to mention 10 and up). The school doesn't want responsibility, so their policy is let the kid do what he wants and call the police. Sounds like mom did something similar. She probably didn't want CPS breathing down her neck, so called the local police.
Quote from: Strix on November 21, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2009, 10:36:07 AM
If a cop decides he needs to place cuffs on a 10 year old because her mom cannot handle her, he needs a new job. So does mom.
If a cop HAS cuffs that fit on a 10 year old he needs a new job and a new psych exam.
That being said, Rochester City Police get called all the time to local schools to deal with kids 10 and younger (not to mention 10 and up). The school doesn't want responsibility, so their policy is let the kid do what he wants and call the police. Sounds like mom did something similar. She probably didn't want CPS breathing down her neck, so called the local police.
Stuff like this really makes me wonder if banning corporal punishment for kids was such a good idea. Paradoxically, by making it impossible for a teacher to, say, slap an unruly pupil on the wrist, we have led to an escalation of violence against children, only perpetrated by police - which is clearly excessive.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
Stuff like this really makes me wonder if banning corporal punishment for kids was such a good idea. Paradoxically, by making it impossible for a teacher to, say, slap an unruly pupil on the wrist, we have led to an escalation of violence against children, only perpetrated by police - which is clearly excessive.
:yes:
In high school I felt that the bratty kids in elementary school at the time would have been better off if they got spanked by their parents. We had a debate in class and most people were in favor. -_-
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
Stuff like this really makes me wonder if banning corporal punishment for kids was such a good idea. Paradoxically, by making it impossible for a teacher to, say, slap an unruly pupil on the wrist, we have led to an escalation of violence against children, only perpetrated by police - which is clearly excessive.
It's hard to say. There are many factors involved. A major one is lack of discipline and respect at home. Some children lack the discipline to control themselves and are taught/learn at an earlier age that they cannot hit or really punished by teachers and the school system. That combo can create an out of control child.
Quote from: Strix on November 21, 2009, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: Berkut on November 21, 2009, 10:36:07 AM
If a cop decides he needs to place cuffs on a 10 year old because her mom cannot handle her, he needs a new job. So does mom.
If a cop HAS cuffs that fit on a 10 year old he needs a new job and a new psych exam.
That being said, Rochester City Police get called all the time to local schools to deal with kids 10 and younger (not to mention 10 and up). The school doesn't want responsibility, so their policy is let the kid do what he wants and call the police. Sounds like mom did something similar. She probably didn't want CPS breathing down her neck, so called the local police.
The main reason cops get called to schools is, I think, because the schools are terrified of being sued if they so much as lay a finger on a child. That's why they let the cops deal with it.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 21, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
The main reason cops get called to schools is, I think, because the schools are terrified of being sued if they so much as lay a finger on a child. That's why they let the cops deal with it.
Of course that's the reason. It might also be the reason Mom called them as well.
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 10:48:48 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:45:13 AM
Stuff like this really makes me wonder if banning corporal punishment for kids was such a good idea. Paradoxically, by making it impossible for a teacher to, say, slap an unruly pupil on the wrist, we have led to an escalation of violence against children, only perpetrated by police - which is clearly excessive.
:yes:
In high school I felt that the bratty kids in elementary school at the time would have been better off if they got spanked by their parents. We had a debate in class and most people were in favor. -_-
Big surprise, the nerd class would be in favor of beating the bullies. :P
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on November 21, 2009, 11:09:36 AM
Big surprise, the nerd class would be in favor of beating the bullies. :P
Actually I think it was intro to sociology. We had a wide spectrum of students in the class.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
:yeahright:
Quote from: Jaron on November 21, 2009, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
:yeahright:
Case in point. :contract:
F U. :contract:
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
I know that I would not trust teachers in general with the power to physically assault a child, and I am sure that I would not want that power myself. I would then be expected to use it.
I suppose a system could be established where a given person or group of people in a school could inflict some kind of corporal punishment, and they could be screened and trained for the job. That would be preferable to calling in the cops to handle children who do not respond to non-physical calls for restraint.
I think a preferable system would be to have a school in each district or region where the perennial troublemakers could be assigned, and assign also to that school a faculty and administration that was trained in getting through to these kinds of troublemakers. Either that, or send them to a private "military" school. Those places work a lot better than one might think.
Edit: and as for the OP, agree that the cops should have declined to get involved. Child Protective Services can deal with cases like this.
maybe the woman felt awkward disciplining her child in front of police. The way things are nowadays, you have to be cautious even giving your child a gentle smack in public. Especially around Europeans. :P
In Ukraine, the attitude toward corporal punishment by teachers was way more relaxed. I don't know if it was technically legal, but it has been practiced.
I remember two cases. One time in the Ukrainian class, my rookie teacher thought I lied about doing homework, so she slapped my across my face with my thick notebook in some inexplicable fit of rage. In the second case, in the English class, some asshole kept interrupting the class and pissing off the teacher. Finally the male teacher asked the troublemaker to accompany him to the bathroom. A couple of minutes later, after doing whatever it was that they were doing, the troublemaker came back almost in tears, slightly worse for wear, and not in a mood to disrupt the class anymore.
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2009, 01:38:40 PM
and pissing away the teacher.
Pissing off. off. OFF.
Someone got roughed up in the ass. :P
Quote from: Jaron on November 21, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
Someone got roughed up in the ass. :P
I don't think so. In Ukraine, people would look the other way if you hit someone, but gay sex was a HUGE no-no, especially between a teacher and a student.
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
I don't, but I trust the students less. And disrupting class and similar activities are like the girl in the OP refusing to go to bed--they shouldn't be matters for the police.
I know I'm likely in a minority here but I don't think the premise of the system should be that a teacher can do less, in terms of corporal punishment, to a child than a parent. The difference should be rather in the scope of offenses each can punish a child for - but I don't have a problem with a teacher being able to do to a child that is disrupting the class the same kind of thing a parent can do to a child refusing to go to bed, for example.
Now, in general, I don't believe this should be *much* - I'm talking a slap on the wrist rather than a thorough trashing here - just talking about relative authority here.
Quote from: garbon on November 21, 2009, 11:26:25 AM
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
I don't know about this. I don't know if I trust teachers.
If you don't trust teachers, then why do you trust parents? At least teachers are trained for the job.
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2009, 01:38:40 PM
In Ukraine, the attitude toward corporal punishment by teachers was way more relaxed. I don't know if it was technically legal, but it has been practiced.
I remember two cases. One time in the Ukrainian class, my rookie teacher thought I lied about doing homework, so she slapped my across my face with my thick notebook in some inexplicable fit of rage. In the second case, in the English class, some asshole kept interrupting the class and pissing off the teacher. Finally the male teacher asked the troublemaker to accompany him to the bathroom. A couple of minutes later, after doing whatever it was that they were doing, the troublemaker came back almost in tears, slightly worse for wear, and not in a mood to disrupt the class anymore.
Yeah, in Poland during my youth it could have been similar (probably still a bit less drastic but similar). Now, while I find this objectionable, in principle, it does seem to be the lesser evil if you compare it to the modern situation in the West, does it not?
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
If you don't trust teachers, then why do you trust parents? At least teachers are trained for the job.
Believe it or not, most parents do just fine with no training.
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2009, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: Jaron on November 21, 2009, 01:40:13 PM
Someone got roughed up in the ass. :P
I don't think so. In Ukraine, people would look the other way if you hit someone, but gay sex was a HUGE no-no, especially between a teacher and a student.
Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 10:51:32 AM
Same goes for schools, I think.
Back in the day, teachers had a whole continuum of "institutionalized violence" at their disposal, from smacking a kid on the head to slapping them on a wrist etc. that could be used depending on the degree of offense. I don't know - maybe kids were not as bad back then (but I doubt it) but it was unthinkable to have cops called to school on a kid unless they committed some really serious crime.
These days teachers are scared shitless of being sued to they call cops at the slightest provocation. The end result is that kids get more violent responses for lesser offenses than before.
When you were a kid the teachers could have the students executed as counter-revolutionary, and vice-versa.
lol, Ozark is a shitty little hillbilly town. And the cops there are pigs.
Quote from: Malthus on November 21, 2009, 02:46:54 PM
Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?
Depends on when it happened. Once upon a time, the hysteria surrounding sex and kids wasn't quite so well-fed, and so any accusations would simply be disregarded as lies.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on November 21, 2009, 11:01:16 AM
The main reason cops get called to schools is, I think, because the schools are terrified of being sued if they so much as lay a finger on a child. That's why they let the cops deal with it.
At the middle school I used to work at, the only time the police were brought in was when the principal or deans couldn't calm the kid down. Only a handful of times do I recall cuffs being used, and those kids were completely out of control.
Quote from: Neil on November 21, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.
According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark. :smarty:
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 03:18:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 21, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.
According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark. :smarty:
I have heard getting hit with a phonebook doesn't leave bruises. :ph34r:
Quote from: Martinus on November 21, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
If you don't trust teachers, then why do you trust parents? At least teachers are trained for the job.
Teachers are not trained to hit students. :huh:
Anyway, I trust parents more as at least the child is their legal responsibility and hopefully they have some sort of emotional bond with it.
Quote from: Malthus on November 21, 2009, 02:46:54 PM
Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?
I doubt anyone would believe the student.
The mom and the cop should have been tasered..... <_<
Quote from: DGuller on November 21, 2009, 05:01:10 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 21, 2009, 02:46:54 PM
Doesn't this open the door for the kid blackmailing the teacher, or getting revenge by claiming sexual assault - whether it happened or not?
I doubt anyone would believe the student.
In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.
Quote from: Malthus on November 24, 2009, 09:26:37 AM
In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.
I don't know, I haven't been involved in it. My guess is that if that actually happens, there will be more than just the word of one student against the teacher. I guess this isn't the only situation where it's hard to get caught, but God help you if you get caught.
I do know that in Soviet Union, gay sex was a crime punishable by years in jail, and that was just for consenting adults. One of my Russian acquaintances recalled going to the cinema as a child, to presumably watch some movie for children, and seeing the news reel of police busting into the apartment of two people having gax sex (there was no editing out of naughty bits, Soviet Union didn't do censorship). I don't think that the environment where you want to practice your love on children of the same sex.
Quote from: DGuller on November 24, 2009, 10:27:58 AM
Quote from: Malthus on November 24, 2009, 09:26:37 AM
In that case, what's to stop the teacher from buggering the student to his heart's content? If no-one is ever likely to believe the student, seems that the danger of getting caught is pretty low.
I don't know, I haven't been involved in it. My guess is that if that actually happens, there will be more than just the word of one student against the teacher. I guess this isn't the only situation where it's hard to get caught, but God help you if you get caught.
I do know that in Soviet Union, gay sex was a crime punishable by years in jail, and that was just for consenting adults. One of my Russian acquaintances recalled going to the cinema as a child, to presumably watch some movie for children, and seeing the news reel of police busting into the apartment of two people having gax sex (there was no editing out of naughty bits, Soviet Union didn't do censorship). I don't think that the environment where you want to practice your love on children of the same sex.
I dunno; seems the perfect place to do it.
All the risk is in getting caught. The consequences of being caught are pretty horrific here in the West - years in jail, possibility of being murdered in jail, etc. While the consequences in the ex-Soviet world would certainly be worse, its merely a matter of degree, not kind.
OTOH, the chances of getting caught strike me as seriously lower in a system where kids are likely to be disbelieved. In most cases of child sex abuse here in the West, routine disbelief that kids were telling the truth about sex abuse did in the past foster a lot of it - though clearly the pendulum swung too far the other way with that "repressed memory" nonsense. Without someone taking kids accusations seriously, there is little chance of being caught, unless an adult happens to walk in on the abuse while its being committed.
A cop can't handle a 10 year old?
This is probably from the Onion.
Quote from: sbr on November 21, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 03:18:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 21, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.
According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark. :smarty:
I have heard getting hit with a phonebook doesn't leave bruises. :ph34r:
No, apparently if you put the phonebook on the person, then hit them through the phonebook, it doesn't leave a bruise. Or so I've been told.
Another lovely trick is to hit people above the hairline, so you can't see the bruises.
Quote from: Barrister on November 26, 2009, 11:53:07 AM
Quote from: sbr on November 21, 2009, 03:35:28 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 03:18:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 21, 2009, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: merithyn on November 21, 2009, 07:23:55 AM
The girl is 65 pounds and 4'6"?? Oh for fuck's sake. Slap the little bitch on the ass a few times, drag her kicking and screaming little butt into her room, and close the door. End of discussion.
Stupid mother.... <_<
That's called child abuse these days, at least in failed societies.
According to the police around here, it's not abuse if it doesn't leave a mark. :smarty:
I have heard getting hit with a phonebook doesn't leave bruises. :ph34r:
No, apparently if you put the phonebook on the person, then hit them through the phonebook, it doesn't leave a bruise. Or so I've been told.
Another lovely trick is to hit people above the hairline, so you can't see the bruises.
Interesting story from the 'bad old days' of the so-called "Cherry Beach Express" in Toronto (when cops used to take people they did not like but did not want to arrest formally - often, gays and hippies - out to a remote place called Cherry Beach and beat them up); cops grabbed a kid from my high school, for being a long-haired hippie pot smoker; failed to find anything incriminating on him; he back-talked sarcastically; they took him to Cherry Beach to beat the shit out of him; they made him hold a phone book on his stomach under his ribs; beat on it with a club.
The second round, he dropped the book as the club was swinging and they injured him seriously, causing an internal investigation of some sort. Can't recall if anything came of it though.
The cops no longer do this, I'm told - or at least, no longer have the reputation for doing this.