I just realized that I haven't read a fantasy book in a long time and I have no idea what to try. So, give me some recommendations. Authors I've liked include: Brandon Sanderson, Robin Hobb, George R. R. Martin, Terry Goodkind
You have read Tolkein, right?
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
I just realized that I haven't read a fantasy book in a long time and ,
I´ve liked George R. R. Martin
Yeah I hear there is a lot of that going around. :lol:
Try Abercrombie. I really liked his stuff for engaging fantasy:
http://www.amazon.ca/Blade-Itself-Joe-Abercrombie/dp/0575079797/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257537818&sr=1-5
He delights in totally unlovable heroes. One of the leading characters is a bitter, crippled professional torturer - and he's the good guy. :lol:
Njal's saga (http://www.amazon.com/Njals-Wordsworth-Classics-World-Literature/dp/1853267856/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257537946&sr=1-3). This is what Tolkien was reading when got the idea for the idea of Fantasy at all.
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
I just realized that I haven't read a fantasy book in a long time and I have no idea what to try. So, give me some recommendations. Authors I've liked include: Brandon Sanderson, Robin Hobb, George R. R. Martin, Terry Goodkind
Have you read Raymond Feist?
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Authors I've liked include: Robin Hobb, Terry Goodkind
Go to local bookstore. Go to sci/fi fantasy section. Pick random book with elves or dragons on cover. There's a 95% chance this book is better than Goodkind. :P
Quote from: Berkut on November 06, 2009, 03:25:52 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
I just realized that I haven't read a fantasy book in a long time and I have no idea what to try. So, give me some recommendations. Authors I've liked include: Brandon Sanderson, Robin Hobb, George R. R. Martin, Terry Goodkind
Have you read Raymond Feist?
Good books, good author. Try his books. I suggest start with Magician's Apprentice, the first in a series. Good and fast reads. Then he has other books based in the same fantasy world, different characters or spin offs of some main characters.
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
That one is truly awesome, but the motherfucker, after claiming that "all the books are written," has yet to release book 2, 2 and a half years later.
Try Glen Cook, the Black Company series. Now in convenient collected form, first volume is here.
http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Black-Company-Glen-Cook/dp/0765319233/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257541164&sr=8-2
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 04:11:48 PM
Try Glen Cook, the Black Company series. Now in convenient collected form, first volume is here.
http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Black-Company-Glen-Cook/dp/0765319233/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257541164&sr=8-2
Oh man, I hated the 1/3rd of that book I made it through.
Croaker made me want to commit suicide.
The Black Company may be too much of a downer for Korea. The Dread Empire books too.
At least there are no fucking elves.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 06, 2009, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Authors I've liked include: Robin Hobb, Terry Goodkind
Go to local bookstore. Go to sci/fi fantasy section. Pick random book with elves or dragons on cover. There's a 95% chance this book is better than Goodkind. :P
No kidding.
I recommend the Kildar books by John Ringo. You'll love them.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 04:29:42 PM
I recommend the Kildar books by John Ringo. You'll love them.
:lmfao: :x :bleeding:
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
That's the one with the gypsy peasant who is incredible at everything he tries? I couldn't stand it.
You can try David Eddings Belgariad. I liked them in Junior High.
Oh and why not some of the classics in the genre like Lieber and Howard?
Quote from: Kleves on November 06, 2009, 05:31:28 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
That's the one with the gypsy peasant who is incredible at everything he tries? I couldn't stand it.
Sounds like Siddharta. Found that one annoying and retarded, but then I read it in high school.
Try L.E. Modesitt, Jr, he had some good books. The Corean Chronicles are interesting.
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 04:11:48 PM
Try Glen Cook, the Black Company series. Now in convenient collected form, first volume is here.
http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Black-Company-Glen-Cook/dp/0765319233/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257541164&sr=8-2
Agree. The Lady should be right up your alley.
Try something from Clive Barker.
Once again, The Prince of Nothing trilogy by Scott Bakker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Nothing). Though I think ID would enjoy it more than you dear.
G.
For a wildcard: I'm currently loving Cornwell's Saxon books.
They're historic fiction, not fantasy, but they read just like they're from a hard fantasy setting. Really, really good stuff.
I'll second the recommendation of Cornwell.
I won't second the recommendation of Bakker's books. The protagonist was another ubermensch who is fantastically skilled at every conceivable pursuit. Which is interesting, since he's basically the product of centuries of inbreeding and isolation.
Quote from: Barrister on November 06, 2009, 03:14:04 PM
You have read Tolkein, right?
:o No! And I keep meaning to!
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:17:52 PM
Try Abercrombie. I really liked his stuff for engaging fantasy:
http://www.amazon.ca/Blade-Itself-Joe-Abercrombie/dp/0575079797/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257537818&sr=1-5
He delights in totally unlovable heroes. One of the leading characters is a bitter, crippled professional torturer - and he's the good guy. :lol:
Oh, I actually just bought the books. I thought it was pretty good but it was hard for me to get into it. I only read the first one and part of the second one. I do keep meaning to go back and give it another try.
Quote from: Viking on November 06, 2009, 03:19:54 PM
Njal's saga (http://www.amazon.com/Njals-Wordsworth-Classics-World-Literature/dp/1853267856/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257537946&sr=1-3). This is what Tolkien was reading when got the idea for the idea of Fantasy at all.
Sounds interesting. I may give this one a go.
Quote from: Berkut on November 06, 2009, 03:25:52 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
I just realized that I haven't read a fantasy book in a long time and I have no idea what to try. So, give me some recommendations. Authors I've liked include: Brandon Sanderson, Robin Hobb, George R. R. Martin, Terry Goodkind
Have you read Raymond Feist?
Yeah the first two Magician books. After that I think I remembered it got retarded?
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 06, 2009, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Authors I've liked include: Robin Hobb, Terry Goodkind
Go to local bookstore. Go to sci/fi fantasy section. Pick random book with elves or dragons on cover. There's a 95% chance this book is better than Goodkind. :P
:lol: I know. I was a bit apprehensive about admitting I like Goodkind a lot. Even if I don't necessarily agree with his philosophy.
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
I just finished reading this one a few weeks ago! I absolutely loved it. I can't wait for the sequel. But this is why I hate reading a trilogy or series before it is completed. <_<
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: Malthus on November 06, 2009, 03:58:13 PM
I also liked this one a lot:
http://www.amazon.ca/Kingkiller-Chronicle-Day-Name-Wind/dp/0756404746/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
That one is truly awesome, but the motherfucker, after claiming that "all the books are written," has yet to release book 2, 2 and a half years later.
He is a less fat Martin. :(
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 04:11:48 PM
Try Glen Cook, the Black Company series. Now in convenient collected form, first volume is here.
http://www.amazon.com/Chronicles-Black-Company-Glen-Cook/dp/0765319233/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257541164&sr=8-2
I tried to read that one a couple of months ago but I could not get into it at all. I hated his writing style. It was so choppy and there was now flow.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 04:29:42 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 06, 2009, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 03:10:02 PM
Authors I've liked include: Robin Hobb, Terry Goodkind
Go to local bookstore. Go to sci/fi fantasy section. Pick random book with elves or dragons on cover. There's a 95% chance this book is better than Goodkind. :P
No kidding.
I recommend the Kildar books by John Ringo. You'll love them.
Military sci fi? :unsure:
Quote from: Strix on November 06, 2009, 05:44:46 PM
Try L.E. Modesitt, Jr, he had some good books. The Corean Chronicles are interesting.
I read the first couple of pages and it seemed pretty good. I think I'll give them a try. :) Thanks.
Jesus H Christ, you goofy ass broad. I told you: Clive Barker. Show some fucking semblance of taste already.
More recommendations, although if you don't like the Black Company there's no hope for you. The links are usually to the kindle version, just for reference.
Mortal Coils - Eric Nylund:
http://www.amazon.com/Mortal-Coils-ebook/dp/B001QVHL3Q/ref=pd_ys_iyr5
Lamentation - Ken Scholes:
http://www.amazon.com/Lamentation-Psalms-Isaak-Ken-Scholes/dp/0765360918/ref=pd_ys_iyr7
A Madness of Angels - Kate Griffin:
http://www.amazon.com/Madness-Angels-Resurrection-Matthew-ebook/dp/B001YWNAHI/ref=pd_ys_iyr8
Black Sun Rising - C. S. Friedman:
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Rising-Coldfire-Trilogy/dp/0756403146/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
Feast of Souls - C. S. Friedman:
http://www.amazon.com/Feast-of-Souls-Magister-Trilogy/dp/1841498343/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_5
Voyage of the Shadowmoon - Sean McMullen:
http://www.amazon.com/Voyage-of-the-Shadowmoon/dp/B000FA5U0K/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=digital-text&qid=1257555281&sr=1-3
Hood - Stephen Lawhead:
http://www.amazon.com/Hood-King-Raven-Trilogy-Book/dp/B002MAQSJI/ref=pd_sim_b_1
Night Watch - Sergei Lukyanenko
http://www.amazon.com/Night-Watch-ebook/dp/B002EBDPG4/ref=pd_ys_iyr29
Gardens of the Moon - Stephen Erikson
http://www.amazon.com/Gardens-Moon-Malazan-Book-Fallen/dp/0765322889/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1257555412&sr=8-1
Winterbirth - Brian Ruckley
http://www.amazon.com/Winterbirth-ebook/dp/B001NY64Y8/ref=pd_sim_kinc_2?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2
A Darkness Forged In Fire - Chris Evans
http://www.amazon.com/Darkness-Forged-Fire-Elves-ebook/dp/B001BNDVM4/ref=pd_sim_kinc_6?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2
Scar Night - Alan Campbell
http://www.amazon.com/Scar-Night-ebook/dp/B000MAHBTQ/ref=pd_ys_iyr50
The Stepsister Scheme - Jim Hines
http://www.amazon.com/The-Stepsister-Scheme-ebook/dp/B001O222DG/ref=pd_sim_kinc_1?ie=UTF8&m=AG56TWVU5XWC2
The Briar King - Greg Keyes
http://www.amazon.com/The-Briar-King-ebook/dp/B001OLRMTG/ref=pd_ys_iyr92
A Shadow In Summer - David Abraham
http://www.amazon.com/A-Shadow-In-Summer-ebook/dp/B001AN4WSW/ref=pd_ys_iyr93
Perdido Street Station - China Mieville
http://www.amazon.com/Perdido-Street-Station-ebook/dp/B000FBFO8C/ref=pd_ys_iyr96
Red Seas Under Red Skies - Scott Lynch
http://www.amazon.com/Red-Seas-Under-Skies-ebook/dp/B000UDNBS0/ref=pd_ys_iyr105
Midwinter - Matthew Sturges
http://www.amazon.com/Midwinter-ebook/dp/B002IPGO50/ref=pd_ys_iyr113
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 07:01:36 PM
Try something from Clive Barker.
His books sound gross and scary. :ph34r:
Quote from: Grallon on November 06, 2009, 07:02:41 PM
Once again, The Prince of Nothing trilogy by Scott Bakker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_of_Nothing). Though I think ID would enjoy it more than you dear.
G.
Why? It seems good. :)
Try finding a copy of L. Sprague DeCamp's The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate for a nice "historical" romp absolutely indistinguishable from a fantasy romp, and then his Lest darkness Fall for an alt-his fantasy that really and truly does not suck. Both are older books, so you may need to go used, but both are fabulous classics of their genres, and should appeal to any reader of fantasy.
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 07:01:36 PM
Try something from Clive Barker.
His books sound gross and scary. :ph34r:
Fuck, sometimes you people are hopeless.
Go read some fucking Harry nigger Potter then.
Quote from: Tyr on November 06, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
For a wildcard: I'm currently loving Cornwell's Saxon books.
They're historic fiction, not fantasy, but they read just like they're from a hard fantasy setting. Really, really good stuff.
Wow, it actually seems really interesting to me. I will definitely be checking it out.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 07:01:36 PM
Try something from Clive Barker.
His books sound gross and scary. :ph34r:
Fuck, sometimes you people are hopeless.
Go read some fucking Harry nigger Potter then.
The nigger who must not be named :o
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Quote from: Korea on November 06, 2009, 08:16:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 07:01:36 PM
Try something from Clive Barker.
His books sound gross and scary. :ph34r:
Fuck, sometimes you people are hopeless.
Go read some fucking Harry nigger Potter then.
I didn't say it sounded bad! I was actually considering checking it out until a review said you must have a strong stomach to get through the books.
Quote from: grumbler on November 06, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
Try finding a copy of L. Sprague DeCamp's The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate for a nice "historical" romp absolutely indistinguishable from a fantasy romp, and then his Lest darkness Fall for an alt-his fantasy that really and truly does not suck. Both are older books, so you may need to go used, but both are fabulous classics of their genres, and should appeal to any reader of fantasy.
Lest Darkness Fall is excellent.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Fuck, sometimes you people are hopeless.
Go read some fucking Harry nigger Potter then.
Have you read Harry Potter?
Quote from: Razgovory on November 06, 2009, 08:28:39 PM
Lest Darkness Fall is excellent.
Agree. It is what all the trash alt-hists want when they write. Hell, Stirling even wrote an "end note" story to it...never had the desire to read the Apotheosis of Martinus Padua
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 06, 2009, 08:58:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 06, 2009, 08:21:27 PM
Fuck, sometimes you people are hopeless.
Go read some fucking Harry nigger Potter then.
Have you read Harry Potter?
I don't read Harry Potter for the same reason I don't read Susan Sontag or Dave Eggers: I hate the people who do.
Read some scifi instead. Larry Niven amuses me.
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
Didn't she like those books written by that really fat guy? Isn't rape the same as saying hello in those things?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
He is a vampire dude. The chicks fell to his Glamor and were willing.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:52:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
He is a vampire dude. The chicks fell to his Glamor and were willing.
Lies!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Read the Eye of the World by Robert Jordan.
I really tried to read that book but I found it really hard to get into! I've been meaning to give it another try for a couple of years now.
Tim, I loved the last book series you recommended for me though.
Quote from: Korea on November 07, 2009, 11:27:23 PM
I really tried to read that book but I found it really hard to get into! I've been meaning to give it another try for a couple of years now.
THere's a lot of background the first 50 pages, but once the adventure gets going with the monster attack it's awesome.
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
No, he's right. It's hard to imagine a promising begining going more horribly wrong than the Wheel of Time.
Quote from: Neil on November 07, 2009, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
No, he's right. It's hard to imagine a promising begining going more horribly wrong than the Wheel of Time.
I disagree. Book 11 was my second favorite one, and book 12 is getting great reviews.
I reread the series every year.
Quote from: Korea on November 07, 2009, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Hmm. You and me both.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 08, 2009, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: Korea on November 07, 2009, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Hmm. You and me both.
The 1st book in the series is named Ghost.
Quote from: Neil on November 07, 2009, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
No, he's right. It's hard to imagine a promising begining going more horribly wrong than the Wheel of Time.
I almost have to agree. So much of the work took a long time to say very little. There was enough good stuff buried under the dross to make a good series. Even a great one.
I think in the end the Wheel of Time, while I did love it, is a cautionary tale about the peril sof being your own editor.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 08, 2009, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: Korea on November 07, 2009, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Hmm. You and me both.
If that intrigues you then you should definitely read Goodkinds Sword of Truth series.
Quote from: Korea on November 08, 2009, 12:41:31 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 08, 2009, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: Korea on November 07, 2009, 11:19:41 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 06, 2009, 10:44:49 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Hmm. You and me both.
If that intrigues you then you should definitely read Goodkinds Sword of Truth series.
Highlight the rape parts for me. I'll read those.
For the 1st series, this guy does that for you.
http://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 08, 2009, 12:21:49 AM
Quote from: Neil on November 07, 2009, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
No, he's right. It's hard to imagine a promising begining going more horribly wrong than the Wheel of Time.
I almost have to agree. So much of the work took a long time to say very little. There was enough good stuff buried under the dross to make a good series. Even a great one.
I think in the end the Wheel of Time, while I did love it, is a cautionary tale about the peril sof being your own editor.
And what happens when you take so long writing the series.....and croak before it's over!
Quote from: grumbler on November 06, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
Try finding a copy of L. Sprague DeCamp's The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate for a nice "historical" romp absolutely indistinguishable from a fantasy romp, and then his Lest darkness Fall for an alt-his fantasy that really and truly does not suck. Both are older books, so you may need to go used, but both are fabulous classics of their genres, and should appeal to any reader of fantasy.
Can't recommend
Lest darkness Fall too highly - it really is excellent. Haven't read The Dragon of the Ishtar Gate yet - I'll try to remedy that.
Quote from: Tyr on November 06, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
For a wildcard: I'm currently loving Cornwell's Saxon books.
They're historic fiction, not fantasy, but they read just like they're from a hard fantasy setting. Really, really good stuff.
Yup, and a new one just came out. Excellent stuff.
Quote from: Strix on November 08, 2009, 01:07:41 AM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 08, 2009, 12:21:49 AM
Quote from: Neil on November 07, 2009, 11:45:20 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM
The Eye of the World would have been better as a standalone rather than the hook into a rather tedious series.
Lies!
No, he's right. It's hard to imagine a promising begining going more horribly wrong than the Wheel of Time.
I almost have to agree. So much of the work took a long time to say very little. There was enough good stuff buried under the dross to make a good series. Even a great one.
I think in the end the Wheel of Time, while I did love it, is a cautionary tale about the peril sof being your own editor.
And what happens when you take so long writing the series.....and croak before it's over!
I think it improved when he started letting TOR edit his crap, they cut hundreds of pages out of the last book, and it was the best one in nearly a decade.
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 08, 2009, 11:31:48 AM
I think it improved when he started letting TOR edit his crap, they cut hundreds of pages out of the last book, and it was the best one in nearly a decade.
I have to agree with that. The series was getting old and than I happened to buy that book in a discount store because I needed something to read on a trip. I enjoyed it a lot. It resembled the early parts of the series more.
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Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on November 06, 2009, 10:33:28 PM
Sprague is awesome.
But Kildar is more an 'urban fantasy' than military sci fi. It gets classified that sometimes because of some subplot about a mutant plague.
I guess that got left out in the review I read.
Don't even think about reading it Koera, the main character is a crazed rapist.
I am intrigued now.
Hmm. You and me both.
If that intrigues you then you should definitely read Goodkinds Sword of Truth series.
Highlight the rape parts for me. I'll read those.
:lol: So every other page then?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on November 08, 2009, 12:52:15 AM
For the 1st series, this guy does that for you.
http://hradzka.livejournal.com/194753.html
:lol: I'm totally buying these now.
I read the first couple hundred pages of Wizard's First Rule. No rape, just lots of prose that sounded like it was written by a sixth grader.
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Quote from: Razgovory on November 06, 2009, 08:28:39 PM
Lest Darkness Fall is excellent.
Agree. It is what all the trash alt-hists want when they write. Hell, Stirling even wrote an "end note" story to it...never had the desire to read the Apotheosis of Martinus Padua
I have no desire to read anything Stirling writes. Though I think of Lest Darkness fall as a time travel story more then a Alt-history.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 08, 2009, 12:53:10 PM
I read the first couple hundred pages of Wizard's First Rule. No rape, just lots of prose that sounded like it was written by a sixth grader.
Wizard's First RUle was mental popcorn, good for a quick read. WHen he got the book deal and decided to steal the worst of Jordan and snuff fiction things went down hill.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on November 08, 2009, 12:53:10 PM
I read the first couple hundred pages of Wizard's First Rule. No rape, just lots of prose that sounded like it was written by a sixth grader.
I think in the first one the guy gets raped. A lot. But I think as the novels progress the females rapes increase. By a lot.
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
More recommendations, although if you don't like the Black Company there's no hope for you. The links are usually to the kindle version, just for reference.
Black Sun Rising - C. S. Friedman:
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Rising-Coldfire-Trilogy/dp/0756403146/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
I decided to try this one. Thanks. :)
I read this. It was very mediocre.
Quote from: Korea on November 10, 2009, 11:21:05 PM
Quote from: ulmont on November 06, 2009, 08:13:24 PM
More recommendations, although if you don't like the Black Company there's no hope for you. The links are usually to the kindle version, just for reference.
Black Sun Rising - C. S. Friedman:
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Sun-Rising-Coldfire-Trilogy/dp/0756403146/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpt_2
I decided to try this one. Thanks. :)
I am utterly confused by this book. I feel like I'm missing some vital piece of information that would bring it all together. :huh: