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QuoteThe Ravens have signed former New York Giants wide receiver David Tyree, the team announced today.
Tyree, who spent six seasons in New York, is best remembered for a 32-yard catch that he trapped against his helmet to keep the Giants' game-winning drive alive against the New England Patriots in Super Bowl XLII.
Tyree, 6-0, 206 pounds, was a sixth-round draft pick by the Giants in 2003. He has 54 catches for 650 yards and four touchdowns in his career.
The Ravens waived tight end Tony Curtis to make room for Tyree.
I await with great trepidation the Ratbirds' roadtrip to Minnihaha.
If Ray Lewis hits Favre like he hit Chad, I'll be happy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
I await with great trepidation the Ratbirds' roadtrip to Minnihaha.
It should be a good game. I'll refrain from any smack-talking however or else the Football Gods will surely strike Favre down.
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
I await with great trepidation the Ratbirds' roadtrip to Minnihaha.
It should be a good game. I'll refrain from any smack-talking however or else the Football Gods will surely strike Favre down.
I've already chalked it up as a loss.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 04:16:32 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 13, 2009, 04:14:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 04:12:28 PM
I await with great trepidation the Ratbirds' roadtrip to Minnihaha.
It should be a good game. I'll refrain from any smack-talking however or else the Football Gods will surely strike Favre down.
I've already chalked it up as a loss.
You have a good team there that can beat anybody on any given day. I certainly haven't chalked it down as a win.
Didn't Tyree go crazy and say that he was possessed by demons, or something?
Quote from: Kleves on October 13, 2009, 04:25:44 PM
Didn't Tyree go crazy and say that he was possessed by demons, or something?
He was injured for the year on a Coughlin-coached team. That in itself is a sin.
Tyree was always a decent special teams guy.
Not someone you want to be high on your WR depth chart though. Unless you can train Flacco to throw at the guy's helmet.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2009, 04:41:15 PM
Tyree was always a decent special teams guy.
Not someone you want to be high on your WR depth chart though. Unless you can train Flacco to throw at the guy's helmet.
Flacco tends to go a little high anyways. So there you go.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2009, 04:41:15 PM
Tyree was always a decent special teams guy.
As their special teams returners are sucking ass (hello, Chris Carr), they definitely need the help.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 05:15:58 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2009, 04:41:15 PM
Tyree was always a decent special teams guy.
As their special teams returners are sucking ass (hello, Chris Carr), they definitely need the help.
Let's be fair. It's not like Chris Carr has some special deficiency when it comes to special teams. He also sucks as a nickelback. When you see him on the field, prepare for a defensive holding or illegal contact call. Every-fucking-time.
Let's file him under guys who won't be returning next year.
As an aside, I suggest everyone watch the ESPN documentary tonight at 8pm. Directed by Barry Levinson, "The Band That Wouldn't Die", the story about the Baltimore Colts Marching Band, and how it maintained its existence to remind the NFL and the world that, yes, there was a team once called the Baltimore Colts.
Watching the footage of Bob Irsay, Willie Don Schafer and Mayflower vans sneaking out in the middle of the night, maybe--just maybe--you'll understand why I'm such a shitcock psycho when it comes to this particular issue, the expansion era, and those motherfuckers Paul Tagliabue and Jack Kent Cooke.
As if going to the Hall of Fame in Canton and seeing John Unitas' records listed under "Indianapolis Colts" isn't enough to do it.
It's only an hour long. It won't hurt you.
Which again begs the question: if you could go back & change events in 1983, would you give up your beloved Ravens to be able to keep the Colts? :contract:
I heard Unitas himself cut ties with the Colts and regarded the Ravens as the successor to the Baltimore Colts. True?
Modell and Irsay are both ripe wet fecal matter.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 13, 2009, 07:13:25 PM
I heard Unitas himself cut ties with the Colts and regarded the Ravens as the successor to the Baltimore Colts. True?
Modell and Irsay are both ripe wet fecal matter.
Espec. Modell.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 06:56:00 PM
Which again begs the question: if you could go back & change events in 1983, would you give up your beloved Ravens to be able to keep the Colts? :contract:
That's a trap question, and I shan't answer it.
Although, it's a lot like Vietnam: until the last person that has a personal recollection of the Colts finally dies, that blue horseshoe will always hang over this city.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 13, 2009, 07:13:25 PM
I heard Unitas himself cut ties with the Colts and regarded the Ravens as the successor to the Baltimore Colts. True?
Unitas had nothing to do with the Colts organization or even the league to his dying day. Never set foot in Indianapolis, never took so much as a phone call. He was on the sidelines at every Ravens game. Always.
His personal memorabilia never went to Indianapolis or Canton, it stayed here, where it belongs and where he called home.
All the former Colts are like that. John Mackey still curses Irsay's name. Lenny Moore and Artie Donovan have nothing to say about the Indianapolis Colts. The only veteran the Indianapolis Colts can muster is Gary Hogeboom.
Ted Marchibroda does Indy's radio work, because he's a nice, well-meaning, confused old guy.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 07:28:37 PM
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on October 13, 2009, 07:13:25 PM
I heard Unitas himself cut ties with the Colts and regarded the Ravens as the successor to the Baltimore Colts. True?
Modell and Irsay are both ripe wet fecal matter.
Espec. Modell.
You know better than that. Cleveland was promised an expansion team before the ink on the Baltimore deal was dry.
Jim Brown will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Otto Graham will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Ozzie Newsome will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Brady Quinn is a Cleveland Brown today. And you can thank Arthur B. Modell for that.
Your loyalty to the Brown family clouds your judgement, Cincitucky.
Anyway, it was a very well done film. Mom called me afterwards with tears in her voice.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 09:03:12 PM
Anyway, it was a very well done film. Mom called me afterwards with tears in her voice.
Explains a lot & filled in some gaps for me. I vaguely remember seeing the Mayflower trucks, and at the time it just didn't seem like a big deal-- the Baltimore Colts were now the Indy Colts. I was a Bills fan so I didn't really pay attention. Drunk Irsay = hilariousness.
I was prepared for the Modell deification, so that wasn't a surprise. I have to say though that it seemed a bit-- foreign. But then again, it's hard for me to get my mind around the concept of an NFL marching band.
And FWIW the wife thought it was a mockumentary :ph34r:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
All the former Colts are like that. John Mackey still curses Irsay's name. Lenny Moore and Artie Donovan have nothing to say about the Indianapolis Colts. The only veteran the Indianapolis Colts can muster is Gary Hogeboom.
And Art Schlichter bet 10K they would never move, poor schlub.
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2009, 10:46:20 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 08:47:10 PM
All the former Colts are like that. John Mackey still curses Irsay's name. Lenny Moore and Artie Donovan have nothing to say about the Indianapolis Colts. The only veteran the Indianapolis Colts can muster is Gary Hogeboom.
And Art Schlichter bet 10K they would never move, poor schlub.
You never going in against a drunken Jew when death is on the line.
Quote from: derspiess on October 13, 2009, 10:18:35 PM
I was prepared for the Modell deification, so that wasn't a surprise. I have to say though that it seemed a bit-- foreign.
Still not forgiven for firing the old man, now is he? :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2009, 06:51:56 AM
Still not forgiven for firing the old man, now is he? :P
:goodboy:
Paul Brown was one of the greatest men I ever had the privilege of meeting. Nobody fires Paul Brown.
Meanwhile, in the "things that should have been done in Week 1" category, the Bungles finally cut Brad St. Louis last night. If the new dude only screws up a handful of snaps this year, he'll be a net positive :rolleyes:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2009, 08:49:47 PM
You know better than that. Cleveland was promised an expansion team before the ink on the Baltimore deal was dry.
Jim Brown will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Otto Graham will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Ozzie Newsome will always be a Cleveland Brown.
Brady Quinn is a Cleveland Brown today. And you can thank Arthur B. Modell for that.
Right, but without the move it could very well have been Cleveland winning that Super Bowl and not the Ravens. Also, Ozzie would be using his powers of drafting and talent insight for Cleveland instead of the jokes that have been there since their rebirth.
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on October 14, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
Right, but without the move it could very well have been Cleveland winning that Super Bowl and not the Ravens. Also, Ozzie would be using his powers of drafting and talent insight for Cleveland instead of the jokes that have been there since their rebirth.
Not true.
Why not? :unsure:
Doesn't look like the Bungles game is going to sell out. I'm a little surprised-- after the Ravens game I figured there would be a rush on tickets early this week, even this week's game is vs. a non-rival.
As of yesterday afternoon they had to sell 7,000 tickets by Thursday to avoid a blackout. I'm taking Tommy to his first game this week, so I went over to the stadium to get him some gear. The ticket offices were: empty.
So MB will need to make the trip down here if he wants to see the game :contract:
Why does the NFL have that rule?
Quote from: Liep on October 14, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
Why does the NFL have that rule?
I dunno. The CFL has a similar rule, but it makes more sense here where the large majority of revenue is from ticket sales, and when tickets are very affordable.
But when the NFL is largely driven by TV revenue, and tickets are quite expensive, I'm not sure the blackout rule makes sense.
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
So MB will need to make the trip down here if he wants to see the game :contract:
I'll live.
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 04:08:29 PM
Quote from: Liep on October 14, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
Why does the NFL have that rule?
I dunno. The CFL has a similar rule, but it makes more sense here where the large majority of revenue is from ticket sales, and when tickets are very affordable.
But when the NFL is largely driven by TV revenue, and tickets are quite expensive, I'm not sure the blackout rule makes sense.
It theoretically encourages ticket sales. Seems like a dick move whenever it happens, though, since the cheapest Bungles seats are $64.
And how many of the available seats are only $64?
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
And how many of the available seats are only $64?
I think just one of the end zones is that price level. Last I looked, there are still some of these seats available for this Sunday.
But anyway my point was that I don't think $64 is necessarily cheap. I remember Ravens cheap seats being under $30 back in the late 90s.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2009, 03:56:01 PM
Quote from: Judas Iscariot on October 14, 2009, 03:50:10 PM
Right, but without the move it could very well have been Cleveland winning that Super Bowl and not the Ravens. Also, Ozzie would be using his powers of drafting and talent insight for Cleveland instead of the jokes that have been there since their rebirth.
Not true.
Because Belichick would not have been fired if they didn't move. He would have run the team into the ground an additional two seasons.
Quote from: Liep on October 14, 2009, 04:05:59 PM
Why does the NFL have that rule?
Because they're afraid showing half empty stadiums on TV will cheapen the brand.
Speesh: if tickets are going wanting couldn't you get a good deal from a scalper?
I have already been told my costume will offend everyoen who is race conscious by trivializing the issue.
I will grant the Empire's policies towards nonhumanoid races was harsh, but isn't it time we move beyond that?
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 09:16:59 PM
I have already been told my costume will offend everyoen who is race conscious by trivializing the issue.
I will grant the Empire's policies towards nonhumanoid races was harsh, but isn't it time we move beyond that?
Wrong thread.
Still, anyone who is race conscious is a fucking retard and deserves to die, so you're right to trivialize their pet issue. And murder them and their families, if you like. So long as you don't do it in a really creepy way.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 08:14:27 PM
Speesh: if tickets are going wanting couldn't you get a good deal from a scalper?
Possibly-- looks like they're going for face value on stubhub.com, oddly enough.
But my tickets are: free :)
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
And how many of the available seats are only $64?
I think just one of the end zones is that price level. Last I looked, there are still some of these seats available for this Sunday.
But anyway my point was that I don't think $64 is necessarily cheap. I remember Ravens cheap seats being under $30 back in the late 90s.
:rolleyes: Yes, the greatest coach in the last 20 years would have run them into the ground.
What does Jimmie Johnson have to do with this?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 14, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
And how many of the available seats are only $64?
I think just one of the end zones is that price level. Last I looked, there are still some of these seats available for this Sunday.
But anyway my point was that I don't think $64 is necessarily cheap. I remember Ravens cheap seats being under $30 back in the late 90s.
:rolleyes: Yes, the greatest coach in the last 20 years would have run them into the ground.
Really? What does Jimmy Johnson have to do with all this?
I realize you were an infant at the time, but a lot of us happened to watch it him do it to the Browns in real time.
But, since you want to be a little bitch about it, this is what you get for being an alt-history niggerfuck and forgetting real history.
Quote from: Faeelin on October 14, 2009, 09:16:59 PM
I have already been told my costume will offend everyoen who is race conscious by trivializing the issue.
I will grant the Empire's policies towards nonhumanoid races was harsh, but isn't it time we move beyond that?
Exactly the right repsonse to those people.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 14, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 14, 2009, 04:47:45 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 14, 2009, 04:33:53 PM
And how many of the available seats are only $64?
I think just one of the end zones is that price level. Last I looked, there are still some of these seats available for this Sunday.
But anyway my point was that I don't think $64 is necessarily cheap. I remember Ravens cheap seats being under $30 back in the late 90s.
:rolleyes: Yes, the greatest coach in the last 20 years would have run them into the ground.
:unsure:
Now this one hurts.
QuoteThe Indianapolis Colts announced this morning that they have signed former Ravens kicker Matt Stover.
The team said that kicker Adam Vinatieri has undergone arthroscopic surgery to his right knee and is expected to miss four to eight weeks.
To make room for Stover, the Colts waived defensive tackle Ed Johnson this morning.
Depending on Vinatieri's rehabilitation, Stover could be kicking against the Ravens on Nov. 22 at M&T Bank Stadium.
Punter Pat McAfee handles kickoff duties for the Colts.
Best comment on the boards:
QuoteAt least Indianapolis didn't put Stover in a Mayflower truck in the middle of the night to sign him.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 14, 2009, 10:11:30 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 14, 2009, 10:06:32 PM
:rolleyes: Yes, the greatest coach in the last 20 years would have run them into the ground.
Really? What does Jimmy Johnson have to do with all this?
I realize you were an infant at the time, but a lot of us happened to watch it him do it to the Browns in real time.
But, since you want to be a little bitch about it, this is what you get for being an alt-history niggerfuck and forgetting real history.
Timmy amuses the fuck out of me.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 14, 2009, 08:14:27 PM
Because they're afraid showing half empty stadiums on TV will cheapen the brand.
That might make sense if they didn't broadcast the game at all, but since it's only a blackout in the home team's market its just a dick move to sell overpriced tickets.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 15, 2009, 06:39:19 AM
Now this one hurts.
QuoteThe Indianapolis Colts announced this morning that they have signed former Ravens kicker Matt Stover.
The team said that kicker Adam Vinatieri has undergone arthroscopic surgery to his right knee and is expected to miss four to eight weeks.
To make room for Stover, the Colts waived defensive tackle Ed Johnson this morning.
Depending on Vinatieri's rehabilitation, Stover could be kicking against the Ravens on Nov. 22 at M&T Bank Stadium.
Punter Pat McAfee handles kickoff duties for the Colts.
Colts are wise to keep McAfee from kicking FGs. His missed FG in OT last year in the WVU @ Colorado game still sticks in my mind <_<
Well, good for Stover. Sure, 45 is maximum range for him now, but he's still deadly accurate inside that.
It's a shame the Ravens couldn't keep him.
Bungles got an extension on the sellout/blackout deadline, but I'll be shocked if they sell the remaining 3,000 tickets by tomorrow @ 1:00pm.
Oddly enough, the Bears game next week is now sold out.
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2009, 03:38:39 PM
Bungles got an extension on the sellout/blackout deadline, but I'll be shocked if they sell the remaining 3,000 tickets by tomorrow @ 1:00pm.
Oddly enough, the Bears game next week is now sold out.
There is still some old school Bears fans in Southern Indiana. I assume they are driving over.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 03:40:47 PM
There is still some old school Bears fans in Southern Indiana. I assume they are driving over.
Chicago itself ain't too far away, so i could imagine (as painful as it is) Chicagoans who can't get into Bears games making the trip.
And I know Houston isn't much of a draw, but it still seems odd that at 4-1 & after a big win, they can't sell out this week's game but no problem with the next.
Nobody wants to watch the fucking Texans.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 03:45:44 PM
Nobody wants to watch the fucking Texans.
I do, but only to watch Steve Slaton play.
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2009, 03:55:07 PM
I do, but only to watch Steve Slaton play.
Steve Slaton is sucking this year. He seems to be running to contact for whatever reason. It's Schaub and the passing O that has been lighting it up.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 15, 2009, 03:55:50 PM
West Virginia sucks.
You're just jealous that you don't have Luther Van Dam as coach :contract:
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 15, 2009, 04:21:42 PM
Steve Slaton is sucking this year. He seems to be running to contact for whatever reason. It's Schaub and the passing O that has been lighting it up.
I know-- I haven't seen much of him on TV this year but his numbers suck. How has the run-blocking been?
Anyway, Slaton seemed to slow down a half-step or so in his last year at WVU. He had some really good games last year, but I still haven't seen him run like he did back in 2006.
Quote from: derspiess on October 15, 2009, 04:41:49 PM
I know-- I haven't seen much of him on TV this year but his numbers suck. How has the run-blocking been?
Well, it's not as good as it was at the beginning of the year because they lost Pitts (replaced with the inconsistent Studdard), but it's adequate. It's the same line (well...aside from Pitts) he had last year when he was kicking all kinds of ass...well...the LT isn't a rookie anymore (!). They don't overpower anyone, just look at what happened in the Arizona game, but between the 20's, they open up lanes often enough. Slaton just doesn't seem to make the cut and go like he did last year. He's been running into the backs of the linemen a lot, or at least it seems like a lot.
Whatever it is he's doing, it isn't working at the moment, and it's leaving everything on Schaub's shoulders.
QuoteAnyway, Slaton seemed to slow down a half-step or so in his last year at WVU. He had some really good games last year, but I still haven't seen him run like he did back in 2006.
IIRC one thing they were talking about is Slaton had gained some weight this offseason. Not fat, but muscle. Maybe that has something to do with it this year. Otherwise, the only things I can think of are some weird mental hangups, or maybe he's got some sort of injury.
Really, I'm tired of the stupid zone blocking, finesse offense shit. I want huge linemen that open up bigass holes for the backs to run through because they're bulldozing every defender in sight. You can still run the bootlegs and other playaction shit they love so much off of that.
QuoteRay Lewis plans to appeal his $25,000 fine from the NFL for hitting Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Ochocinco, according to ESPN.
10/18 1:00 ET At Washington -6.5 Kansas City
10/18 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -5.5 Houston
10/18 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -14 Cleveland
10/18 1:00 ET At Minnesota -3 Baltimore
10/18 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -9.5 St. Louis
10/18 1:00 ET At New Orleans -3 NY Giants
10/18 1:00 ET Carolina -3 At Tampa Bay
10/18 1:00 ET At Green Bay -13.5 Detroit
10/18 4:05 ET Philadelphia -14 At Oakland
10/18 4:05 ET At Seattle -3 Arizona
10/18 4:15 ET At NY Jets -9.5 Buffalo
10/18 4:15 ET At New England -9 Tennessee
10/18 8:20 ET At Atlanta -3 Chicago
Monday Night Football Point Spread
10/19 8:35 ET At San Diego -3.5 Denver
Good game monday night.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2009, 12:39:32 PM
QuoteRay Lewis plans to appeal his $25,000 fine from the NFL for hitting Cincinnati wide receiver Chad Ochocinco, according to ESPN.
Yeah, cuz it was clearly a clean hit :D
Seriously though, if Ray-Ray wanted to make a statement, the time to do it is in the 1st quarter, not in the 4th quarter when it can cost the team the game. Stupid, stupid move.
LOL, Chad Johnson bought up all the remaining Bungles tickets & is giving them away free.
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2009, 01:37:22 PM
LOL, Chad Johnson bought up all the remaining Bungles tickets & is giving them away free.
That's awesome.
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2009, 01:12:51 PM
Yeah, cuz it was clearly a clean hit :D
Seriously though, if Ray-Ray wanted to make a statement, the time to do it is in the 1st quarter, not in the 4th quarter when it can cost the team the game. Stupid, stupid move.
It was a clean hit.
Because if it wasn't, Chad wouldn't have gotten back up.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
Because if it wasn't, Chad wouldn't have gotten back up.
:yes:
See: the time that Ray Ray killed those guys at that Superbowl party.
Quote from: Kleves on October 16, 2009, 02:09:03 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
Because if it wasn't, Chad wouldn't have gotten back up.
:yes:
See: the time that Ray Ray killed those guys at that Superbowl party.
Nice try, but you can't bring him down. He's better than you.
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Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2009, 01:12:51 PM
Yeah, cuz it was clearly a clean hit :D
Seriously though, if Ray-Ray wanted to make a statement, the time to do it is in the 1st quarter, not in the 4th quarter when it can cost the team the game. Stupid, stupid move.
It was a clean hit.
Because if it wasn't, Chad wouldn't have gotten back up.
Riiiiiight. Helmet to helmet, and the ball was about 15 yards past both of them when the hit took place.
If you had any sense of objectivity, you'd be pissed at Ray-Ray & nobody else.
If I was a Raven fan, I'd support Ray Ray. Just like I supported Kaesviharn when he cheap shot that Pat WR a few years ago.
God, that was glorious.
Hey Speesh, could you teach your buddy Chad to count past 10 in Spanish?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 16, 2009, 08:04:26 PM
Hey Speesh, could you teach your buddy Chad to count past 10 in Spanish?
I'm still surprised he knew ocho & cinco.
But anyway, as bad as "Ochocinco" is, it looks better than "Ochenta y cinco".
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 16, 2009, 02:00:51 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 16, 2009, 01:12:51 PM
Yeah, cuz it was clearly a clean hit :D
Seriously though, if Ray-Ray wanted to make a statement, the time to do it is in the 1st quarter, not in the 4th quarter when it can cost the team the game. Stupid, stupid move.
It was a clean hit.
Because if it wasn't, Chad wouldn't have gotten back up.
Actually it was a clean hit but it was an illegal hit. They actually have photos of Ray hitting him and it's clear from the photo that he leads with his shoulder. The helmet to helmet happens because of the sheer violence that Ray brought to the hit.
It's illegal because Ray left his feet to deliver the clean hit. You can no longer leave your feet when hitting an unprotected wide out (along with no longer having helmet to helmet contact).
Regardless, it was a poor decision to make such a statement at that point in the game. If you're gonna make a bad choice than at least go for Palmer's knee.
Hey, Neil...you'd have no problem pulling the trigger on this trade, would you?
QuoteThere has been speculation -- ESPN started the rumor but nothing confirmed by either team -- that the Ravens will send a second- and fifth-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, who seems to have had a falling out with new coach Todd Haley.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 17, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
Hey, Neil...you'd have no problem pulling the trigger on this trade, would you?
QuoteThere has been speculation -- ESPN started the rumor but nothing confirmed by either team -- that the Ravens will send a second- and fifth-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, who seems to have had a falling out with new coach Todd Haley.
Hell yeah. Bowe's better than a second, and who cares about the fifth. Give Flacco someone to throw to for a long time.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 17, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
Hey, Neil...you'd have no problem pulling the trigger on this trade, would you?
QuoteThere has been speculation -- ESPN started the rumor but nothing confirmed by either team -- that the Ravens will send a second- and fifth-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, who seems to have had a falling out with new coach Todd Haley.
Semi-related, was Heap playing hurt or something last week? I hadn't watched him play much recently, but the way he played it looked like he was maybe past his prime.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 17, 2009, 10:40:07 AM
Hey, Neil...you'd have no problem pulling the trigger on this trade, would you?
QuoteThere has been speculation -- ESPN started the rumor but nothing confirmed by either team -- that the Ravens will send a second- and fifth-round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs for wide receiver Dwayne Bowe, who seems to have had a falling out with new coach Todd Haley.
Sure. If you can't stop the opposing offence, at least you can outscore them.
Bowe would fill a spot that the Ravens have been looking to fill for years now. Even though the Ravens usually make pretty good use of their 2nd rounder (Ray Rice and Chris Chester have worked out alright), Bowe would be allow Flacco to use his mega-arm.
Quote from: derspiess on October 17, 2009, 11:35:28 AM
Semi-related, was Heap playing hurt or something last week? I hadn't watched him play much recently, but the way he played it looked like he was maybe past his prime.
Heap, like the rest of the wideouts, was shut down by the Bengals D. Up to that point, he'd been having his best season in years.
Someone us old guys remember from back in the day, taking handoffs from Vince Ferragamo.
QuoteOBITUARY: Running back Cullen Bryant, who spent 11 seasons with the Rams in Los Angeles, has died. He was 58.
Unknown to his family, Bryant had been under a doctor's care when he died Tuesday at his home in Colorado Springs, Colo., said his sister-in-law, Wanda E. Bryant.
Bryant was the Rams' second-round draft pick in 1973. He played with the team until 1982, was with the Seahawks in 1983 and 1984 and returned to the Rams for his last pro season in 1987.
And in other news, The Onion still has it out for Da Raidahs:
QuoteRaiders Achieve First Down
EAST RUTHERFORD, NJ—In an improbable display of competence and a basic execution of football fundamentals, the Oakland Raiders stunned the football world Sunday when running back Michael Bush miraculously rushed for three yards against the Giants and succeeded in converting a first down.
The Raiders, who fearlessly faced a third-and-one situation on their own 22-yard-line, somehow gained the 36 inches needed for an elusive first down, despite numerous obstacles that included a professional NFL defense, owner Al Davis' incompetent personnel decisions, mediocre play-calling, and general ineptitude.
"I cannot believe what I just saw," said CBS commentator Greg Gumbel, adding that he was amazed the Raiders advanced the ball beyond the line of scrimmage, let alone gained a full 10 yards. "The fact that they were out on the field for three consecutive plays without turning the ball over is incredible. But a first down? An actual first down from the Oakland Raiders? You...I mean—I just, I can't..."
"I'm speechless," Gumbel added.
According to eyewitnesses, Raiders fans were equally astonished, reportedly shaking their heads in disbelief at the team's lack of incomplete passes, false starts, and holding penalties during the four-down series. Chuck Walker, a lifelong Raiders fan, said he was "proud" of his hometown team for defying the odds and avoiding mental errors for nearly 120 seconds.
"I've never seen them go that long without totally screwing up," said Walker, who believed the first down may have even slightly changed the game's momentum. "I was certain that with a yard to go they would send five receivers deep and [quarterback] JaMarcus [Russell] would chuck the ball to one of the Giants' defensive backs."
Continued Walker, "This will surely go down as the highlight of the Raiders' season."
NFL analyst Tom Jackson also registered his incredulity, saying that after he saw the Raiders gain nine yards on the first two plays of the series—a "miraculous achievement" in and of itself—he never could have imagined they'd gain the one yard necessary to begin another set of offensive downs. The fact that they actually gained two extra yards beyond the first-down marker, Jackson said, left everyone in ESPN studios beside themselves.
"On any given play there is so much potential for the Raiders to lose a significant number of yards that you never expect them to actually gain anything," Jackson said. "But they did it. They made a first down. And on three tries, like a normal pro football team."
Jackson went on to credit the accomplishment to the much-maligned offensive line, saying that not only did they show a full understanding of their blocking assignments, but they also ran the correct play when the ball was snapped.
"Looking at that play, you wonder how a team like the Raiders are 1-4," Jackson said. "Not for too long, of course, but you do wonder for a split second."
According to referee John Parry, the first down also caught members of the officiating crew off guard. Parry said that when Bush moved the chains, his instinct was to throw an unsportsmanlike behavior flag for taunting.
"Michael just got up off the ground and handed me the ball without trying to provoke anyone," Parry said. "Usually you'll find the Oakland guys are jumping back on the pile trying to jam a finger into someone's eye or just kicking wildly with their cleats."
"At first I thought we definitely missed something," Parry added. "But we reviewed the play and the league didn't find anything illegal. They got a first down fair and square."
The Raiders lost the game 44-7.
:lol:
I see the UFL is drawing the big crowds.
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The game was played before only 6,341 fans at AT&T Park in San Francisco.
Which Brett Favre will show up today: UberBrett that Favres you in the ass from 75 yards with -1.2 seconds left on the clock, or LULZ 3 INTS AINT WE HAVING FUN IN OUR WRANGLRS Favre.
Sigh...
10/18 1:00 ET At Washington -6.5 Kansas City - Washington wins, KC covers
10/18 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -5.5 Houston - Cincinnati wins
10/18 1:00 ET At Pittsburgh -14 Cleveland - Pittsubrugh wins
10/18 1:00 ET At Minnesota -3 Baltimore - Baltimore wins
10/18 1:00 ET At Jacksonville -9.5 St. Louis - Jacksonville wins
10/18 1:00 ET At New Orleans -3 NY Giants - Giants win
10/18 1:00 ET Carolina -3 At Tampa Bay - Carolina wins
10/18 1:00 ET At Green Bay -13.5 Detroit - Green Bay wins, Detroit covers
10/18 4:05 ET Philadelphia -14 At Oakland - Philly wins
10/18 4:05 ET At Seattle -3 Arizona - Arizona wins
10/18 4:15 ET At NY Jets -9.5 Buffalo - Jets win
10/18 4:15 ET At New England -9 Tennessee - Cheatriots win
10/18 8:20 ET At Atlanta -3 Chicago - Chicago wins
Monday Night Football Point Spread
10/19 8:35 ET At San Diego -3.5 Denver - San Diego wins
Well, I think we know which Favre showed up.
The Bungles are giving me the heebie-jeebies.
Damn dirty Steelers. :mad:
Also:
Watching Favre punch the Ravens in the nuts sucks (I want Ray Ray to pulverize Favre), and watching Brees rape the Giants sucks. The early games blow.
Fucking Sunday ticket
Was it just me, or were there two Vikings across the line when the ball was snapped?
Okay the Steelers were short on that 4th down by a chain length, right? And the refs gave them the 1st down? :blink:
Quote from: Vince on October 18, 2009, 01:37:32 PM
Okay the Steelers were short on that 4th down by a chain length, right? And the refs gave them the 1st down? :blink:
"I think what we've had here is a little marketing concern in the NFL. NFLShop.com has been very desirous that the Steelers do well."
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
Was it just me, or were there two Vikings across the line when the ball was snapped?
Yeah, they're being so blatant after getting away with it in the first quarter, they have to get called on it.
What amused me were the two separate refs that threw flags for blocking behind the back against the Vikings, and the subsequent "there was no penalty on the play" call.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
Was it just me, or were there two Vikings across the line when the ball was snapped?
Yeah, they're being so blatant after getting away with it in the first quarter, they have to get called on it.
What amused me were the two separate refs that threw flags for blocking behind the back against the Vikings, and the subsequent "there was no penalty on the play" call.
Well, next time maybe they shouldn't talk shit about the officiating.
Good Lord, what happened to the vaunted Ravens defense? Now they just look like 11 ordinary schlubs wearing black sissy pants.
Cleveland and Pittsburgh 5 possessions with 5 fumbles in a row this ain't pretty to watch.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2009, 02:37:22 PM
Good Lord, what happened to the vaunted Ravens defense? Now they just look like 11 ordinary schlubs wearing black sissy pants.
They're broken in the head. All mental errors.
And the Dan Dierdorf lexicon grows...
Today, we've heard:
superlative
par excellence
buttslide
At least the Ravens have a bye next week. That way, they've got two weeks to figure out why they are failing in all three aspects of the game.
Enjoy your high ankle sprain, Adrian. Way to go, Dannell Ellerbe.
I despise the bungles tight ends. I loathe their very existence.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
I despise the bungles tight ends. I loathe their very existence.
I'm assuming they're dropping passes, as they are wont to do?
Meh, Vikes up by only 6, 5 minutes remaining... :(
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
I despise the bungles tight ends. I loathe their very existence.
I'm assuming they're dropping passes, as they are wont to do?
Yep. Might as well let Chase Coffman be active next game and let him drop some balls.
Quote from: Barrister on October 18, 2009, 03:07:34 PM
Meh, Vikes up by only 6, 5 minutes remaining... :(
Adrian down, and now Percy is down.
The Ravens play like a Joe Pesci character.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:05:28 PM
I despise the bungles tight ends. I loathe their very existence.
Cincy should have never got rid of Marco Battaglia.
:cool:
Quote from: Barrister on October 18, 2009, 03:07:34 PM
Meh, Vikes up by only 6, 5 minutes remaining... :(
This is what your boys got Favre for: Close games early in the season.
What a fucking hit.
Well Ed, you got your Ray Ray collision on Favre. Unfortunately, he got up.
FUCK. I was flipping channels.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 01:08:00 PM
Was it just me, or were there two Vikings across the line when the ball was snapped?
Yeah, they're being so blatant after getting away with it in the first quarter, they have to get called on it.
They need to realize they aren't the Steelers and the refs won't cover their asses forever.
Fuck.
Holy mother fuck.
Hahaha they switched to this game just in time. Nice TD for Rice there.
Go Ray Rice!
Yeah, how you like them apples, Brett. #27
HA HA! FUCK THE VIKINGS!
3:37 to go. Too much time left for Brett Favre.
s'okay.
3:30 left, down by one?
I just hope they can chew up enough clock before they score.
What a block by Washington there.
This would be a good time for Evil Brett to show up. You know, the one with the beard.
Slow and steady, lots of time, only need a FG...
Too fast :(
What the Favre?
But nice throw by Favre.
Frank Walker is allergic to penalties, as he's always breaking out in yellow flags.
Wow good stuff here. The Ravens, assuming the FG is made, should have a good 1:50 left.
This sort of shit is why I can never quit smoking during football season.
Matt Stover would've made it.
Aw bad snap. Well..bad-ish. Well...not really.
How old is this kicker? 10? 12?
Steve Hauschka is the worst kicker in NFL history. What is he doing with a job?
The TENN-NE game is a snow game. Awesome. I'll suppress my hatred of NE to watch the snow.
No glory in winning on a missed 44 yarder.
:mad: I hate Bud Adams. Fucking thumbtacks wearing Oilers uniforms.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2009, 03:36:47 PM
No glory in winning on a missed 44 yarder.
I don't care about glory.
I care about W's.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 18, 2009, 03:33:38 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 03:31:53 PM
Matt Stover would've made it.
Where is Matt Stover?
Indianapolis. Signed this week when Viniateri went down.
The Ravens didn't want to suck up two roster spots because Stover wasn't getting the distance on kick-offs and didn't want to keep Steve Rookie as a kickoff specialist, so he wasn't resigned in the offseason.
I said it was a bad move then, and today is why.
Quote from: Barrister on October 18, 2009, 03:43:25 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 18, 2009, 03:36:47 PM
No glory in winning on a missed 44 yarder.
I don't care about glory.
I care about W's.
The Vikes' Ls will come during the playoffs, like they always do.
Quote from: Barrister on October 18, 2009, 03:46:31 PM
We'll see.
Indeed. We will. We'll see the Vikings crash and burn, just like any team foolish enough to sign Favre.
The Vikes should have never given up on Jeff george all those years ago.
And, to add insult to injury, I'm getting the Tenn-NE and Philly-Oak games. Blech.
I've switched over to CFL. Bombers play soon. :)
What pisses me off more than anything is that the media is giving Favre credit for the win.
If anybody deserves credit for the Viking's win, it's Steve Hauschka.
Best part of the Vikes/Ravens game was all the long runs. Long runs are more exciting than long passes, unless it's some crazy catch and run.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 04:03:49 PM
What pisses me off more than anything is that the media is giving Favre credit for the win.
Meh. QBs always get too much credit for wins, and too much blame for losses.
It is the way of things. :mellow:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
And, to add insult to injury, I'm getting the Tenn-NE and Philly-Oak games. Blech.
I'm not even getting the Philly-Oakland game; that's been pre-empted for something with pokerstars.net.
All I get is this abortion of a snowball in NE. 38-0 at the half.
Fucking satellites and their inability to maintain a proper orbit in the northern hemisphere. Fucking physics.
At least Brady took a helmet to helmet hit. He got up though. :(
I hope they drop 90 on the tacks. Fuck them.
45-0. And it's not even halftime yet.
Oh well. At least Kevin Fisher's overrated ass might FINALLY get fired after an 0-6 start.
And the Foreskins lost to the Chiefs. *snicker*
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
And, to add insult to injury, I'm getting the Tenn-NE and Philly-Oak games. Blech.
I'm not even getting the Philly-Oakland game; that's been pre-empted for something with pokerstars.net.
All I get is this abortion of a snowball in NE. 38-0 at the half.
Fucking satellites and their inability to maintain a proper orbit in the northern hemisphere. Fucking physics.
Don't you mean fucking America with it's inability to maintain a decent cable TV system?
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 05:11:24 PM
Don't you mean fucking America with it's inability to maintain a decent cable TV system?
It is the ghettos like where Seedy lives that has such shitty cable and satellite - the people there are mostly all thieves and crack-whores and do not expect much.
Brady is still in with a 45-0 lead. No class.
Claerly, the Titans need to start cheapshotting everything that moves.
Of course they have no class. I think someone should kneecap him.
You'd think Tom Osborne was coaching and it was 73-0 vs the Girls Reform School of Nebraska.
Oh the Big-8!
Hm. Switched to the Jets - Bills game.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 18, 2009, 05:05:56 PM
I hope they drop 90 on the tacks. Fuck them.
I hope somebody on the Titans snaps and takes Brady's knee.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
Claerly, the Titans need to start cheapshotting everything that moves.
No shit.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 05:11:24 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 04:59:08 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 03:52:39 PM
And, to add insult to injury, I'm getting the Tenn-NE and Philly-Oak games. Blech.
I'm not even getting the Philly-Oakland game; that's been pre-empted for something with pokerstars.net.
All I get is this abortion of a snowball in NE. 38-0 at the half.
Fucking satellites and their inability to maintain a proper orbit in the northern hemisphere. Fucking physics.
Don't you mean fucking America with it's inability to maintain a decent cable TV system?
My cable is lovely, thank you; unfortunately, DirectTV is satellite and as the NFL refuses to allow anybody else to carry NFL Sunday Ticket, I don't have any property that faces the southwesterly skies.
I'm sure out in that vast expanse of the Soviet Canuckistan steppes you've got plenty of sky to point a dish at, but I'm at a bit of a geographical disadvantage.
I feel sorry for the Bills, Fitzpatrick is their QB.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 18, 2009, 05:35:33 PM
Hm. Switched to the Jets - Bills game.
Thank Christ.
Although, it's hilarious to hear about TO bitching to deaf ears. Trent Edwards doesn't care, the coaching staff don't care, and the fans don't care. So now he says nothing.
I like that Randy Moss is the only one keeping me alive in my fantasy game against Tim.
:menace: 59 - 0. I don't care what the Tennessee defense is doing to my LFFL week, it's totally worth it.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
My cable is lovely, thank you; unfortunately, DirectTV is satellite and as the NFL refuses to allow anybody else to carry NFL Sunday Ticket, I don't have any property that faces the southwesterly skies.
I'm sure out in that vast expanse of the Soviet Canuckistan steppes you've got plenty of sky to point a dish at, but I'm at a bit of a geographical disadvantage.
Actually, Sunday Ticket is availible to just about any cable or satellite subscriber in Canada. You see, we have things called laws that keeps evil corporations like the NFL and DirecTV from colluding to fuck us.
Wow Vince Young really sucks now...I mean he makes rookie Vince Young look like Steve Young. Damn it Neil was right. :cry:
At least Jason Campbell was pulled today. The Skins need a new QB. Maybe they can draft Tebow/McCoy/Bradford.
:bleeding:
That's what I have to look forward to...Socal Pretty Boy throws 5 ints and loses even with 300 rushing yards.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 06:20:58 PM
Actually, Sunday Ticket is availible to just about any cable or satellite subscriber in Canada. You see, we have things called laws that keeps evil corporations like the NFL and DirecTV from colluding to fuck us.
Maybe it's working better up there, but every time the gov't. steps in to "help the consumers", the law of unintended consequences kicks in & we consumers end up getting shafted even more.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
Yep. Might as well let Chase Coffman be active next game and let him drop some balls.
I'm hoping & praying that Tommy's first memory is not of a Coats dropped pass or fumble. He did get to see fireworks & a couple TDs, anyway (each time he threw up his arms to signal 'touchdown' :) ).
I wanted to see the Bungles win and a solid performance from Slaton. I guess I got one out of two: Slaton wasn't so hot running the ball, but he was on fire receving-- over 100 yards & a TD. His secret weapon at WVU was shifting over to line up at receiver & taking screens. Looks like he still has it-- if you can't take him down as soon as he catches the ball, look out.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 06:20:58 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 05:40:07 PM
My cable is lovely, thank you; unfortunately, DirectTV is satellite and as the NFL refuses to allow anybody else to carry NFL Sunday Ticket, I don't have any property that faces the southwesterly skies.
I'm sure out in that vast expanse of the Soviet Canuckistan steppes you've got plenty of sky to point a dish at, but I'm at a bit of a geographical disadvantage.
Actually, Sunday Ticket is availible to just about any cable or satellite subscriber in Canada. You see, we have things called laws that keeps evil corporations like the NFL and DirecTV from colluding to fuck us.
LOL, and you call yourself a "conservative".
Quote from: derspiess on October 18, 2009, 07:36:37 PM
Maybe it's working better up there, but every time the gov't. steps in to "help the consumers", the law of unintended consequences kicks in & we consumers end up getting shafted even more.
That's because your Congress is far more corrupt than our Parliament.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 07:50:25 PM
LOL, and you call yourself a "conservative".
Not exactly.
That's why you'll always be a flanneled socialist.
Anyway, why does ESPN's story tag say "Favre's late heroics end Ravens' rally"? Is it a generic tag line they use?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 07:50:25 PM
Anyway, why does ESPN's story tag say "Favre's late heroics end Ravens' rally"? Is it a generic tag line they use?
Yeah-- sells newspapers :P
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 08:22:31 PM
That's why you'll always be a flanneled socialist.
Socialism doesn't quite describe me either.
QuoteAnyway, why does ESPN's story tag say "Favre's late heroics end Ravens' rally"? Is it a generic tag line they use?
Yes. Even though Favre's play in the first quarter is what got them the win, and the two players at the end of the game who had the biggest impact on the game were Frank Walker and Steve Hauschka.
When it comes to Favre, the media is retarded.
Quote from: derspiess on October 18, 2009, 07:46:19 PM
I guess I got one out of two: Slaton wasn't so hot running the ball, but he was on fire receving-- over 100 yards & a TD. His secret weapon at WVU was shifting over to line up at receiver & taking screens. Looks like he still has it-- if you can't take him down as soon as he catches the ball, look out.
Slaton actually looked a little better than "usual" (this year) running the ball, but the same thing happened again: the backup comes in, this time scrubby Chris Brown, and he immediately does better than Steve.
I also really wish Slaton would stop fumbling the damn ball.
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 08:38:39 PM
Socialism doesn't quite describe me either.
What really describes you is you're a self-loathing Canadian that refers to himself as an Albertan because you truly wish you were American, and you use your ability to blend in as an American in a crowd because you don't want to be associated with your French countrymen.
You're glad you have your socialized medicine and your cradle-to-grave entitlements, but you really wish you had a navy instead.
Oh, we know what you're all about, you star-spangled wannabe.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
Oh, we know what you're all about, you star-spangled wannabe.
Still better than being a Cuban wannabe like Martim or a Armenian wannabe like Spellus.
Anyway Zorn is truly fucked. The Redskins said he has lost his ability to call plays. I think he is out the door at the end of the year. Oh no, we suck again!
What a glorious victory! :menace:
Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
Oh, we know what you're all about, you star-spangled wannabe.
Still better than being a Cuban wannabe like Martim or a Armenian wannabe like Spellus.
Anyway Zorn is truly fucked. The Redskins said he has lost his ability to call plays. I think he is out the door at the end of the year. Oh no, we suck again!
On the bright side, we won't lose to any more winless teams this season.
Quote from: HisMajestyBOB on October 18, 2009, 09:46:21 PM
On the bright side, we won't lose to any more winless teams this season.
I am starting to go into a depression. I guess a few years under Gibbs where we were raised to the level of having the Redskins not suck and be decent was all we are going to get.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
What a glorious victory! :menace:
About as glorious as me coming to your house and beating you to death with your stunted leg. Bitch. Brady and Moss accounted for me losing this week in my money league. Fucking pieces of shit. How I hope The Football Gods once again punish them.
In non-angry news, I'm still in shock that Oakland won. Why do I feel like Al and friends will say that this was Jamarcus's breakout game and that the fanbase should stop calling for his head? Ugh.
Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
I think he is out the door at the end of the year. Oh no, we suck again!
Try next Tuesday, after they lose to the Eagles on Monday night. That will give the interim coach the bye week to prepare. Not that it will matter.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 18, 2009, 08:41:41 PM
Slaton actually looked a little better than "usual" (this year) running the ball, but the same thing happened again: the backup comes in, this time scrubby Chris Brown, and he immediately does better than Steve.
To be fair, the Bungles D was getting pretty tired by that point. But anyway, if Slaton keeps having these types of games, it might be best to run some sort of slotback formation & line him up there to throw to.
Quote
I also really wish Slaton would stop fumbling the damn ball.
If you dug back through the forum archives a few years ago, you'll probably see me saying the exact same thing :D
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 04:03:49 PM
What pisses me off more than anything is that the media is giving Favre credit for the win.
If anybody deserves credit for the Viking's win, it's Steve Hauschka.
Well, if the Ravens hadn't been fast asleep during the start of the game they may have won this.
Also: WTF Tennessee?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
What really describes you is you're a self-loathing Canadian that refers to himself as an Albertan because you truly wish you were American, and you use your ability to blend in as an American in a crowd because you don't want to be associated with your French countrymen.
You're glad you have your socialized medicine and your cradle-to-grave entitlements, but you really wish you had a navy instead.
Oh, we know what you're all about, you star-spangled wannabe.
QFT
Oh damn it, I forgot to unbench the Green Bay defense.
I missed out on 21 points :(
Quote from: Valmy on October 18, 2009, 09:12:04 PM
Anyway Zorn is truly fucked.
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Who's fucked? You're fucked.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 08:45:01 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 08:38:39 PM
Socialism doesn't quite describe me either.
What really describes you is you're a self-loathing Canadian that refers to himself as an Albertan because you truly wish you were American, and you use your ability to blend in as an American in a crowd because you don't want to be associated with your French countrymen.
You're glad you have your socialized medicine and your cradle-to-grave entitlements, but you really wish you had a navy instead.
Oh, we know what you're all about, you star-spangled wannabe.
That's odd, because you with you had my health care and entitlements, but you have a Navy instead.
Still, the US Navy isn't a very good navy anymore, and I wouldn't want it. No dreadnoughts.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
What a glorious victory! :menace:
See, it's not just the Patriots that have no class, it's their fans too.
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2009, 06:46:31 AM
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2009, 01:02:52 AM
Quote from: Neil on October 18, 2009, 08:16:48 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 18, 2009, 07:50:25 PM
LOL, and you call yourself a "conservative".
Not exactly.
And that is why you fail. :(
My way is a third way, the best way.
There's no "third way" between right and wrong, son.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on October 18, 2009, 09:37:17 PM
What a glorious victory! :menace:
This is why people don't like you.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
Brady is still in with a 45-0 lead. No class.
Claerly, the Titans need to start cheapshotting everything that moves.
Brady came out after the first set of downs, first score, in the 3rd quarter. Or at least very early in the 3rd.
Quote from: KRonn on October 19, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
Brady is still in with a 45-0 lead. No class.
Claerly, the Titans need to start cheapshotting everything that moves.
Brady came out after the first set of downs, first score, in the 3rd quarter. Or at least very early in the 3rd.
He should have come out in the 2nd quarter.
How exactly did Kerry Collins manage to complete a -22 yard pass? That must have been a sight to behold.
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
There's no "third way" between right and wrong, son.
Correct. But there is a third way between conservatism and social democracy.
Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2009, 02:27:38 PM
How exactly did Kerry Collins manage to complete a -22 yard pass? That must have been a sight to behold.
A screen where the runner tries to reverse field? Only way I can see it.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 19, 2009, 07:52:41 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 19, 2009, 02:27:38 PM
How exactly did Kerry Collins manage to complete a -22 yard pass? That must have been a sight to behold.
A screen where the runner tries to reverse field? Only way I can see it.
Couldn't a reciever have fumbled with an offensive player recovering the ball in the back field? Or how would that have been recorded?
Quote from: Neil on October 19, 2009, 07:46:08 PM
Quote from: Barrister on October 19, 2009, 10:59:59 AM
There's no "third way" between right and wrong, son.
Correct. But there is a third way between conservatism and social democracy.
Incorrect.
Quote from: Liep on October 19, 2009, 08:14:30 PM
Couldn't a reciever have fumbled with an offensive player recovering the ball in the back field? Or how would that have been recorded?
I think you're right.
I'd like to think that, when Jeff Fisher's overrated ass is fired over all this, the Ravens had something to do with starting all this in last year's playoffs.
QuoteColumn: This is the worst Titans team ever
Commentary by David Climer
THE TENNESSEAN
FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — With the impending bye in the schedule, we now have almost two full weeks to ponder the obvious question:
How low can this go?
The answer: The bottom is the limit.
Judging from what happened in the snowy chill at Gillette Stadium on Sunday, the Titans have sunk so far, so fast that they hold the distinction of being the worst team in the NFL.
Worse, they now are at the low point of their tenure in Tennessee. Forget the Pacman years. Forget the 0-5 start of 0-6. These Titans have fallen and they can't get up.
This winless hole wasn't dug in a day. After playing the reigning Super Bowl champion Steelers tough on opening day and leading Houston 21-7 in the first half of Game 2, the Titans have gone totally in the tank.
"It was 59-zero," running back Chris Johnson said. "Of course people are going to ask if we quit."
For the record, nobody in the Titans locker room suggested that they quit. But it's early in the season yet.
"Football is an attitude," veteran linebacker Keith Bulluck said. "It's fair to say right now we do not have the attitude that it takes to win in this league."
All things considered, they better hope 86-year-old owner Bud Adams has a sense of humor or is distracted by other matters. This sorry season in general and the uncompetitive nature of this game in particular could — and should — leave a mark.
This team and this coaching staff are at a crossroads. There is a serious disconnect. Jeff Fisher's message is falling on deaf ears. Personnel decisions have backfired. This is a bad team that is badly coached.
A younger Adams would not have taken this sitting down. He would have demanded change. It'll be interesting to see how an older, mellower Adams reacts to owning a team that is now the laughingstock of the NFL.
Yes, there are two other winless teams in the league. But at least St. Louis and Tampa Bay don't lose by scores like 59-0.
Think about it. A 59-0 game is the kind of mismatch you get in junior high or Pop Warner. Maybe the NFL should consider a mercy rule or at least let the clock run continuously in the second half.
Has any NFL team ever taken this kind of dive? Remember, the Titans opened last season 10-0. Since then, they are 3-10, including the current 0-for-'09 skid.
"It's about as bad as it gets," said quarterback Kerry Collins, whose bottom-of-the-barrel passer rating of 4.9 spoke volumes.
And it's not like anyone is going to take pity on them. This is a take-no-prisoners league.
A classic example: After building a 45-0 halftime lead on Sunday, Captain Hoodie (Patriots Coach Bill Belichick) opened the second half in a five-wide receiver set that further exposed the Titans overmatched defense and resulted in another easy touchdown drive.
As for all of you screaming that Vince Young should play quarterback from this point forth, it's not the answer. But given the current state of the Titans, why not try something outside the box? If nothing else, Young's insertion into the starting lineup would create some interest.
And the Titans are in sore need of drama right now. After all the great expectations of the preseason, they run the risk of becoming irrelevant in the final two months of the NFL season. A city that desperately wants a winner instead is stuck with a pro football bottom-feeder right now.
Beyond that, the level of frustration is palpable. As things went from bad to worse late in the first half, Bulluck was observed running to the Titans sideline in an angry funk.
Who could blame him? For 10 seasons, he has put his heart and soul into this organization. Now he's in the final year of his contract and bound for unrestricted free agency after the season.
As loyal as he has been, Bulluck probably can't wait to get out of town.
Yes, there are mitigating circumstances. Aren't there always? The Titans were minus both starting cornerbacks and their No. 1 nickelback on Sunday. That's bad news against anybody. It's a death wish against Tom Brady, Randy Moss, Wes Welker and the rest of the fellas.
But as porous as the pass defense was, there is no excusing an aimless offense and a total absence of attention to detail and discipline.
As bad as it was, there is no guarantee the Titans touched bottom on Sunday. They have 10 games remaining and nothing except pride to play for.
Based on what we saw on Sunday, it's now a losing trifecta. The Titans have no offense, no defense and no pride.
:lol: Nice uniforms Denver. Peedy, you gotta get a pair of those socks.
Quote from: derspiess on October 19, 2009, 01:44:26 PM
Quote from: KRonn on October 19, 2009, 01:38:55 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 05:24:12 PM
Brady is still in with a 45-0 lead. No class.
Claerly, the Titans need to start cheapshotting everything that moves.
Brady came out after the first set of downs, first score, in the 3rd quarter. Or at least very early in the 3rd.
He should have come out in the 2nd quarter.
No one would pull their starters in the first half, especially when the QB is still rusty from missing an entire season.
Quote from: sbr on October 19, 2009, 09:30:09 PM
No one would pull their starters in the first half, especially when the QB is still rusty from missing an entire season.
I would have, if for no other reason than to keep him from getting hurt.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 19, 2009, 09:27:40 PM
:lol: Nice uniforms Denver. Peedy, you gotta get a pair of those socks.
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Kyle 6-0rton! :yeah:
And the Danes go 6 - 0. Just as unlikely as the Broncos. :P
Quote from: Liep on October 20, 2009, 05:29:18 AM
And the Danes go 6 - 0. Just as unlikely as the Broncos. :P
:cheers:
Poor play calling on the last Chargers drive. Both times Rivers got sacked they had receivers running deep routes with no outlet.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 20, 2009, 07:33:03 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 20, 2009, 05:29:18 AM
And the Danes go 6 - 0. Just as unlikely as the Broncos. :P
:cheers:
Poor play calling on the last Chargers drive. Both times Rivers got sacked they had receivers running deep routes with no outlet.
Would it be more appropriate to say they were Turnerized, or Norved?
Kerry Jenkins out for the season with a torn ACL. The Jets Defense just lost its best player and they have zero depth at that position. Teams are going to literally run all over them now.
Quote from: Vince on October 20, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
Kerry Jenkins out for the season with a torn ACL. The Jets Defense just lost its best player and they have zero depth at that position. Teams are going to literally run all over them now.
Vernon Ghol...ah forget it. He's a lost cause. :(
Quote from: Liep on October 20, 2009, 05:29:18 AM
And the Danes go 6 - 0. Just as unlikely as the Broncos. :P
And the Frozen Yukoners go 5-1... :o
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
Yep. Might as well let Chase Coffman be active next game and let him drop some balls.
Looks like we're not getting our wish: http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Chase-not-on-yet/85f18ef8-0a9b-46a4-9b16-93a47c1025d6
If the Bears are smart, they'll back way off either Bungles TE that runs a route and wait for him to either drop the pass or fumble the ball.
Looks like the Bungles are favored by 2 so far for Sunday's game. Unless they figure out some way to pressure the QB without Odom, I say take the damned points.
Quote from: derspiess on October 20, 2009, 02:00:20 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 18, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
Yep. Might as well let Chase Coffman be active next game and let him drop some balls.
Looks like we're not getting our wish: http://www.bengals.com/news/article-1/Chase-not-on-yet/85f18ef8-0a9b-46a4-9b16-93a47c1025d6
I'm annoyed.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 20, 2009, 09:18:27 AM
Quote from: Vince on October 20, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
Kerry Jenkins out for the season with a torn ACL. The Jets Defense just lost its best player and they have zero depth at that position. Teams are going to literally run all over them now.
Vernon Ghol...ah forget it. He's a lost cause. :(
Yeah there's a reason fans call him The Ghost <_<
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=ArEQLyGJDJ9UkB.tyScBYQZDubYF?slug=ap-browns-rollingstone&prov=ap&type=lgns
QuoteRolling Stone slams Browns' Mangini
By TOM WITHERS, AP Sports Writer 5 hours, 26 minutes ago
CLEVELAND (AP)—Even Rolling Stone is throwing rocks at Browns coach Eric Mangini.
In its latest issue, the iconic music magazine stepped outside its usual arena with a harsh critique of Mangini, comparing him to Augustus Gloop, the fictional overeater in Roald Dahl's "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and calling his short coaching tenure in Cleveland "a sort of Hurricane Andrew of football mismanagement."
Mangini, fired by the New York Jets in December, has become a target of abuse—much of it from outside Cleveland—for some of his decisions this season, most notably his handling of the Browns quarterbacks and excessive fines levied on players who break his rules.
The Browns are 1-5 with their only win a 6-3 decision over the Buffalo Bills on Oct. 11.
Long before Rolling Stone piled on, Mangini was being slammed for some of his coaching methods. He has fined players for not adhering to his policies— like parking in the wrong spot—and he slapped one unidentified player a $1,701 fine for failing to pay for a $3 bottle of water during a hotel stay.
Some players complained privately about the length of training camp practices and more hitting than some of them had experienced since high school. Mangini also has subjected players to pop quizzes during meetings, his way of making sure they are learning their playbook and about each other. He forced his rookies to take a 10-hour bus trip this summer to his football camp, and made his team practice outdoors in the rain.
Mangini won't tolerate anyone not part of his program.
He traded playmaker Braylon Edwards(notes) to the Jets one day after the wide receiver allegedly punched a friend of NBA superstar LeBron James outside a Cleveland nightclub. Mangini has transformed Cleveland's roster, bringing in 26 new players from last season, including 10 who played for him in New York last season.
One of them, linebacker David Bowens(notes), said Mangini is unfairly portrayed as tyrant.
"His office is always open," Bowens said last week. "It's not like it's a total dictatorship around here."
Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi went as far as saying the Browns have quit on Mangini in lopsided defeats, a charge many of Cleveland's players dismissed after road losses to Denver and Baltimore.
Taibbi wrote: "In the NFL, if you don't show your players that you have a plan that works, the T-minus to an on-field player revolt is usually about a month. In Cleveland, we're there."
When Rolling Stone starts piling onto a coach you know he is in trouble. :lol:
EDIT: Holy crap, their best defender, besides Rogers, is out for the season too.
D'Qwell Jackson out for the year. (http://"http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-browns-jacksoninjury&prov=ap&type=lgns")
My wife ripped Trent Dilfer a new asshole for trying to defend Sanchez's interceptions. I was happy.
Quote from: Neil on October 20, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
My wife ripped Trent Dilfer a new asshole for trying to defend Sanchez's interceptions. I was happy.
Yeah, so 1 or 2 INTs were not totally Sanchez's fault. Big whoop-- that happens to all QBs. Apparently the media is desirous that a non-Spanish speaking Hispanic QB do well...
Quote from: derspiess on October 20, 2009, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on October 20, 2009, 07:36:35 PM
My wife ripped Trent Dilfer a new asshole for trying to defend Sanchez's interceptions. I was happy.
Yeah, so 1 or 2 INTs were not totally Sanchez's fault. Big whoop-- that happens to all QBs.
QBs protect their own.
I was just happy that my wife showed a knowledge of football. The one that really set her off was when Edwards was laying out to try and make a play on a poorly-thrown ball, but only got part of his one outstretched hand on the ball, tipping it up and allowing it to be picked.