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Title: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 02:46:07 PM
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1919073_1919196,00.html
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 02:46:07 PM
http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1919073_1919196,00.html

I thought this was gonna be a list of successful movies that made a lot of money despite being bad, not just a list of movies that bombed. It's not a blockbuster unless it makes a lot of money.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 02:50:45 PM
Or it physically busts a block.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Viking on September 28, 2009, 02:51:12 PM
The logic here is lacking. Blockbuster that don't make lots of money aren't.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 02:56:18 PM
I'm guessing Veep wanted to say big budget bombs.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Caliga on September 28, 2009, 03:03:14 PM
I always hated the Blockbuster at Cleveland Circle in Brighton.  They were always rude and everything I always wanted to rent was already checked out.  :mad:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Habbaku on September 28, 2009, 03:04:06 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 28, 2009, 03:03:14 PM
I always hated the Blockbuster at Cleveland Circle in Brighton.  They were always rude and everything I always wanted to rent was already checked out.  :mad:

http://www.netflix.com
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Caliga on September 28, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Nowadays I either just put the DVD on my Christmas list or pirate away.  :cool:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Josquius on September 28, 2009, 03:08:28 PM
Yeah, this is flops....

I didn't know Stealth was a big budget piece, odd.
Pluto Nash was weird, well advertised before it came out but it sort of never came out finally.
Waterworld didn't deserve to flop, it was pretty cool. Though stupid.
I thought Speed 2 did OK...Oh well.
Never heard of Osmosis Jones.
Catwoman...yeah. :bleeding: Even the costume sucked.
Battlefield Earth- I can't remember it ever being in the cinema, I only saw one advertising post for it then the next thing I know its years later and on TV. I like this film though, its so bad its good.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 28, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 28, 2009, 03:03:14 PM
I always hated the Blockbuster at Cleveland Circle in Brighton.  They were always rude and everything I always wanted to rent was already checked out.  :mad:
Brighton sucks. 


So do most of these non-blockbusters.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: frunk on September 28, 2009, 03:15:14 PM
It did have Salma Hayek, in a very nice outfit.  Kevin Kline was in it too, wasn't he?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 28, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
I've seen half the films on the list.

AMC really jumped the shark when they started showing Catwoman. TCM FTW.

Thirded for the Wild Wild West was a decent flick.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Caliga on September 28, 2009, 03:17:00 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 28, 2009, 03:15:00 PM
Brighton sucks. 
I know, but at the time I was teh poor.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:
Watchable.  Big mistake casting Will Smith in the lead.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 28, 2009, 03:20:09 PM
Data only includes US box office, some could have been profitable.  Wild Wild West for example made $220 million globally and cost $170 to make, not exactly a flop and it doesn't even include dvds.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:
Watchable.  Big mistake casting Will Smith in the lead.

I seem to remember Robert Conrad saying he wanted to punch Will Smith over his acting.

Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
After seeing 300 I really think now that the movie is kind of lousy, mainly because of the over done fight scenes. The fighting looks great but is mostly unrealistic, mainly for tv glitz and show, and just so wrong. The movie was probably well enough otherwise in its portrayal of characters and events.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
I thought this was gonna be a list of successful movies that made a lot of money despite being bad, not just a list of movies that bombed. It's not a blockbuster unless it makes a lot of money.
A blockbuster is a big budget action movie.  It has no correlation to how much money it earns.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

FFS
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:33:02 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
I thought this was gonna be a list of successful movies that made a lot of money despite being bad, not just a list of movies that bombed. It's not a blockbuster unless it makes a lot of money.
A blockbuster is a big budget action movie.  It has no correlation to how much money it earns.

NONE WHATSOEVER :mad:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 03:33:56 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
After seeing 300 I really think now that the movie is kind of lousy, mainly because of the over done fight scenes. The fighting looks great but is mostly unrealistic, mainly for tv glitz and show, and just so wrong. The movie was probably well enough otherwise in its portrayal of characters and events.
well, I tend to think that it was a good movie because of the over done fight scenes. :)
No way it could have been a success without the cartoonish element in it, imho.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:34:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:20:21 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:
Watchable.  Big mistake casting Will Smith in the lead.

I seem to remember Robert Conrad saying he wanted to punch Will Smith over his acting.

I want to see William Conrad punch Will Smith. Unlikely though. :(
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 03:28:04 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
I thought this was gonna be a list of successful movies that made a lot of money despite being bad, not just a list of movies that bombed. It's not a blockbuster unless it makes a lot of money.
A blockbuster is a big budget action movie.  It has no correlation to how much money it earns.
Nope. The term originated to describe financially successful movies. They had costumers lined all the down the block waiting for tickets.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 03:40:06 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 03:28:04 PM
A blockbuster is a big budget action movie.  It has no correlation to how much money it earns.
I think the confusion stems from the fact that people talk about the summer blockbuster season.  But that's a reference to their potential, before they're released.  No one calls an action film a blockbuster after it has tanked.

On a side note, anyone know the origin of the term blockbuster?  Cars maybe, like it has so many horses it busts the engine block?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:41:19 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 03:37:42 PM

Nope. The term originated to describe financially successful movies. They had costumers lined all the down the block waiting for tickets.

tee hee.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:41:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

FFS

Will you forgive me?  :(
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 28, 2009, 03:41:49 PM
Wild Wild West wasn't terrible. But it was bad neough to mean that years could go by between viewings.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 03:42:22 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Nope. The term originated to describe financially successful movies. They had costumers lined all the down the block waiting for tickets.
That makes some sense I guess.  But how do costumer's lined up down the block bust it?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:41:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

FFS

Will you forgive me?  :(

Since you have confessed your sin you will be absolved in death. Please ascend the pyre.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:48:11 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:45:09 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:41:40 PM
Quote from: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:32:30 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

FFS

Will you forgive me?  :(

Since you have confessed your sin you will be absolved in death. Please ascend the pyre.

Praise the emperor!

*dies*
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 28, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Per IMDB voters:

Speed Racer 6.4
Osmosis Jones 6.0
Waterworld 5.6
Stealth 4.8
Wild Wild West 4.2
Pluto Nash 3.7
Speed 2 3.3
Catwoman 3.2
Gigli/Battlefield Earth 2.3

I'm guessing most of the people who saw Speed Racer were fanboys of the cartoon; that rating is very generous.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 28, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Per IMDB voters:

Speed Racer 6.4
Osmosis Jones 6.0
Waterworld 5.6
Stealth 4.8
Wild Wild West 4.2
Pluto Nash 3.7
Speed 2 3.3
Catwoman 3.2
Gigli/Battlefield Earth 2.3

I'm guessing most of the people who saw Speed Racer were fanboys of the cartoon; that rating is very generous.
WWW, Speed 2, and Gigli deserve better ratings.  Battlefield Earth does not.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: derspiess on September 28, 2009, 04:08:30 PM
Wild Wild West made up for bad script, plot, & acting with pure steampunk goodness.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Jaron on September 28, 2009, 04:10:45 PM
The acting in Wild Wild West was superb. :huh:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: DisturbedPervert on September 28, 2009, 04:37:12 PM
Only movie on the list that I've seen is Waterworld.  I kinda liked it.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Nope. The term originated to describe financially successful movies. They had costumers lined all the down the block waiting for tickets.
I'll let you debate the definition with the Time Magazine journalists ;)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: alfred russel on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM
I'd replace Wild Wild West with the first star wars prequel. Maybe it wasn't a financial flop in the traditional sense, but it was godawful and probably the damage to the star wars brand was more than any of the films listed lost.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ideologue on September 28, 2009, 05:59:13 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

I enjoyed it.  It's good, goofy fun.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 05:59:20 PM
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on September 28, 2009, 04:37:12 PM
Only movie on the list that I've seen is Waterworld.  I kinda liked it.

It also ended up making money, IIRC, once overseas box office and video and DVD sales are accounted for.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 05:59:57 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 28, 2009, 05:14:58 PM
I'd replace Wild Wild West with the first star wars prequel. Maybe it wasn't a financial flop in the traditional sense, but it was godawful and probably the damage to the star wars brand was more than any of the films listed lost.

Jar-Jar... :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 05:59:20 PM
It also ended up making money, IIRC, once overseas box office and video and DVD sales are accounted for.
Isn't that true of all action movies though?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 06:01:49 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 05:59:20 PM
It also ended up making money, IIRC, once overseas box office and video and DVD sales are accounted for.
Isn't that true of all action movies though?

I don't think so. I'm having trouble locating the relevant figures, but can you see something like "Hudson Hawk" (originally marketed and made as an action movie) making money?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Josephus on September 28, 2009, 06:11:03 PM
Guys...haven't any of you heard of Wikipedia? :huh:

Blockbuster, as applied to film or theatre, denotes a very popular and/or successful production. The entertainment industry use was originally theatrical slang referring to a particularly successful play but is now used primarily by the film industry.

he Oxford English Dictionary cites the earliest use of the term in the press when referring to WWII military bombs larger than 4000 lbs; the military did not use the term.[1]

Although some entertainment histories apparently cite it as originally referring to a play that is so successful that competing theaters on the block are "busted" and driven out of business, the OED cites a 1957 use which is simply as a term of "biggest", after the bombs.[2] Whatever its origin, the term quickly caught on as a way to describe a hit, and has subsequently been applied to productions other than plays and films, including novels and multi-million selling computer/console game titles.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 06:14:08 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 06:09:24 PM
I don't think so. I'm having trouble locating the relevant figures, but can you see something like "Hudson Hawk" (originally marketed and made as an action movie) making money?
Interestingly enough I was just on the verge of typing "since Hudson Hawk" but then I stopped myself because I wasn't sure if it was an action flick.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 28, 2009, 06:19:05 PM
Well, it was an action flick when it was in the cinemas, anyway.

Quote from Wikipedia -

QuoteWhen the film came to home video the tag line "Catch The Adventure, Catch The Excitement, Catch The Hawk" was changed to "Catch The Adventure, Catch The Laughter, Catch The Hawk".

:lol:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: garbon on September 28, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
The fighting looks great but is mostly unrealistic, mainly for tv glitz and show, and just so wrong.

Well duh...that was kind of the point.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: grumbler on September 28, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
Quote from: Josephus on September 28, 2009, 06:11:03 PM
Guys...haven't any of you heard of Wikipedia? :huh:

Blockbuster, as applied to film or theatre, denotes a very popular and/or successful production. The entertainment industry use was originally theatrical slang referring to a particularly successful play but is now used primarily by the film industry.

he Oxford English Dictionary cites the earliest use of the term in the press when referring to WWII military bombs larger than 4000 lbs; the military did not use the term.[1]

Although some entertainment histories apparently cite it as originally referring to a play that is so successful that competing theaters on the block are "busted" and driven out of business, the OED cites a 1957 use which is simply as a term of "biggest", after the bombs.[2] Whatever its origin, the term quickly caught on as a way to describe a hit, and has subsequently been applied to productions other than plays and films, including novels and multi-million selling computer/console game titles.

This just demonstrates that a dictionary is a monument to a language as used in the previous century.

A blockbuster movie is a very expensive film made with the anticipation that it will make hundreds of millions of dollars.  Some of them don't.

There is no way Gigli was a blockbuster.  The budget was too small, and it wasn't released in "blockbuster season" (June, July, and December).  That's isn't to say it wasn't a massive flop.

The Golden Compass should be on this list ($180+ mion budget, $70 million domestic gross).
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: grumbler on September 28, 2009, 09:42:42 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
After seeing 300 I really think now that the movie is kind of lousy, mainly because of the over done fight scenes. The fighting looks great but is mostly unrealistic, mainly for tv glitz and show, and just so wrong. The movie was probably well enough otherwise in its portrayal of characters and events.
The problem I had was that the fighting was boring.  I never finished watching the film on DVD.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Josquius on September 28, 2009, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: grumbler on September 28, 2009, 09:41:21 PM

The Golden Compass should be on this list ($180+ mion budget, $70 million domestic gross).

Thats another one though where you've got the big problem of just looking at the US numbers, apparently the christians rallied against that over there and really damaged its run but it was very succesful overseas. According to wikipedia it earned $370 million and that seems to be just at the cinema.
Its a shame it is though regarded as a failure, I thought it to be pretty OK.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: dps on September 28, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
Quote from: derspiess on September 28, 2009, 04:08:30 PM
Wild Wild West made up for bad script, plot, & acting with pure steampunk goodness.

It wasn't terrible escapist fare, but I think I would have liked it better if it had another title and the lead characters weren't named James West and Artemus Gordon.  I liked the old TV show, and the movie really didn't have the same--what's the word I want?--spirit? 
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 28, 2009, 10:56:16 PM
Quote from: dps on September 28, 2009, 10:54:30 PM
It wasn't terrible escapist fare, but I think I would have liked it better if it had another title and the lead characters weren't named James West and Artemus Gordon.  I liked the old TV show, and the movie really didn't have the same--what's the word I want?--spirit?
I thought Kline was a decent Artie.  Except for the painful tranny scene.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: grumbler on September 29, 2009, 06:42:58 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 28, 2009, 09:54:16 PM
Thats another one though where you've got the big problem of just looking at the US numbers, apparently the christians rallied against that over there and really damaged its run but it was very succesful overseas. According to wikipedia it earned $370 million and that seems to be just at the cinema.
Its a shame it is though regarded as a failure, I thought it to be pretty OK.
Most of the movies on the list made money.  The "blockbuster" measure of success, though, is domestic ticket sales.

The concept of the "blockbuster" is kind of specialized, and probably mostly meaningless.  A director has to bill his movie as such, though, before he gets a budget in the high tens or even a hundred+ million dollars.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Josephus on September 29, 2009, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 29, 2009, 06:42:58 AM
A director has to bill his movie as such, though, before he gets a budget in the high tens or even a hundred+ million dollars.

Source?  :contract:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: grumbler on September 29, 2009, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: Josephus on September 29, 2009, 07:02:30 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 29, 2009, 06:42:58 AM
A director has to bill his movie as such, though, before he gets a budget in the high tens or even a hundred+ million dollars.

Source?  :contract:
The Internet. :contract:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Valmy on September 29, 2009, 08:11:05 AM
Quote from: Tyr on September 28, 2009, 09:54:16 PM
apparently the christians rallied against that over there and really damaged its run but it was very succesful overseas.

Well it is not that simple.  A big issue was the image of it being controversial and it being a kids film.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on September 28, 2009, 09:40:59 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 28, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
The fighting looks great but is mostly unrealistic, mainly for tv glitz and show, and just so wrong.

Well duh...that was kind of the point.
My point was that the fighting was just for a Hollywood audience, the single 1vs1 fight scenes ridiculous, kind of lame actually, and far too unrealistic, which wound up ruining the immersion into the movie for me.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 29, 2009, 09:20:03 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 28, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
The Golden Compass should be on this list ($180+ mion budget, $70 million domestic gross).
What an awful movie that was.  Never, never, never listen to a girl when she tells you to rent a good movie.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: viper37 on September 29, 2009, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
My point was that the fighting was just for a Hollywood audience, the single 1vs1 fight scenes ridiculous, kind of lame actually, and far too unrealistic, which wound up ruining the immersion into the movie for me.
IIRC, they simply translated the 'graphic novel' to the theater, and replicated what was in it.

Of course it was unrealistic, just like the war rhino, but it's still among my favorite movies, just for that: it doesn't pretend to be realistic.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: garbon on September 29, 2009, 11:50:12 AM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
My point was that the fighting was just for a Hollywood audience, the single 1vs1 fight scenes ridiculous, kind of lame actually, and far too unrealistic, which wound up ruining the immersion into the movie for me.

Again, that was seemed to be the point. It was sort of like a more masculine-oriented Marie Antoinette as styled by Ms. Coppola. Visual splendor in all its ridiculousness.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: BuddhaRhubarb on September 29, 2009, 12:04:30 PM
Quote from: viper37 on September 28, 2009, 04:39:42 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on September 28, 2009, 03:37:42 PM
Nope. The term originated to describe financially successful movies. They had costumers lined all the down the block waiting for tickets.
I'll let you debate the definition with the Time Magazine journalists ;)

Because It takes a genius to write for Time. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)

So bad that it put me to sleep...fast... :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 29, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
My point was that the fighting was just for a Hollywood audience, the single 1vs1 fight scenes ridiculous, kind of lame actually, and far too unrealistic, which wound up ruining the immersion into the movie for me.

Immersion? You're talking about 300, right?  :huh:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)

So bad that it put me to sleep...fast... :)

You missed out; John Travolta and Forest Whitaker acting alone was amazing.  It was like the Futurama aliens from Omicron Persei 8 come to life.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)

So bad that it put me to sleep...fast... :)

You missed out; John Travolta and Forest Whitaker acting alone was amazing.  It was like the Futurama aliens from Omicron Persei 8 come to life.

I actually liked the original book (I couldn't abide anything else by that author, but I read this book when I was ten, so I still possess a soft spot for it.) So the thought of "John Travolta = Terl" made me shudder.

And then the film actually started...and I was asleep.

Just like that.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 01:40:05 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 29, 2009, 12:08:57 PM
Quote from: KRonn on September 29, 2009, 08:54:32 AM
My point was that the fighting was just for a Hollywood audience, the single 1vs1 fight scenes ridiculous, kind of lame actually, and far too unrealistic, which wound up ruining the immersion into the movie for me.

Immersion? You're talking about 300, right?  :huh:
The movie did pretty well starting out showing how the kids were trained, and about Spartan life. So yeah, some kind of immersion, or "getting into" the movie, is always good. Rather than watch it all get tossed away in dumb ass fight scenes, like a hyped up Rambo movie.

But I guess I was expecting/hoping for a deeper story than what it was made to be.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: The Brain on September 29, 2009, 01:43:51 PM
Didn't you read about the ninja rhinos etc on Languish before you saw it?
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 29, 2009, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)

So bad that it put me to sleep...fast... :)

You missed out; John Travolta and Forest Whitaker acting alone was amazing.  It was like the Futurama aliens from Omicron Persei 8 come to life.

I actually liked the original book (I couldn't abide anything else by that author, but I read this book when I was ten, so I still possess a soft spot for it.) So the thought of "John Travolta = Terl" made me shudder.

And then the film actually started...and I was asleep.

Just like that.
Chunks of the book were OK.  Most of the first half could have been edited down considerably.  Things improved with the second section and the interplanetary politics.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ed Anger on September 29, 2009, 02:03:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 29, 2009, 02:01:21 PM

Chunks of the book were OK.  Most of the first half could have been edited down considerably.  Things improved with the second section and the interplanetary politics.

:bleeding:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on September 29, 2009, 02:43:23 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 29, 2009, 02:03:56 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 29, 2009, 02:01:21 PM

Chunks of the book were OK.  Most of the first half could have been edited down considerably.  Things improved with the second section and the interplanetary politics.

:bleeding:
Well I didn't say they improved a lot! 
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 06:20:53 PM
Quote from: Darth Wagtaros on September 29, 2009, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:59:40 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 12:23:36 PM
Quote from: Agelastus on September 29, 2009, 12:08:29 PM
Quote from: Savonarola on September 29, 2009, 11:24:46 AM
The only one I saw from the list was Battlefield Earth; which was so bad that it was enthralling.   :)

So bad that it put me to sleep...fast... :)

You missed out; John Travolta and Forest Whitaker acting alone was amazing.  It was like the Futurama aliens from Omicron Persei 8 come to life.

I actually liked the original book (I couldn't abide anything else by that author, but I read this book when I was ten, so I still possess a soft spot for it.) So the thought of "John Travolta = Terl" made me shudder.

And then the film actually started...and I was asleep.

Just like that.
Chunks of the book were OK.  Most of the first half could have been edited down considerably.  Things improved with the second section and the interplanetary politics.

I would agree with you - the first 400 pages could be reduced to 150 without materially affecting the book.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Korea on September 29, 2009, 11:32:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

Me too. :hug:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Ancient Demon on September 30, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Am I the only one here who liked Waterworld? :blush:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Alatriste on September 30, 2009, 12:41:33 AM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 30, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Am I the only one here who liked Waterworld? :blush:

It was watchable. Not great, but it certainly wasn't a modern 'Plan 9 from Outer Space'. Sometimes one wonders if film critics have secret yearly meetings in which they decide who's going to be unfairly massacred and who's going to be undeservedly praised to heaven and beyond during the next 12 months.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: garbon on September 30, 2009, 01:37:29 AM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 30, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Am I the only one here who liked Waterworld? :blush:

My cousin loves Waterworld. We all give him shit.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Duque de Bragança on September 30, 2009, 02:05:36 AM
Quote from: The Brain on September 28, 2009, 03:34:41 PM

I want to see William Conrad punch Will Smith. Unlikely though. :(

That or or being strafed by Pappy Boyington in its Corsair.

Waterworld wasn't that bad since it was one the last big budget Mad Max-like production without obtrusive CGI crap. Most critics have not seen it of course.
Neil would also love the post-apocalyptic Lingua Franca in this movie too :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Zoupa on September 30, 2009, 02:23:47 AM
300 was a terrible movie. What is it whith you guys all having a giant boner for it?

Fags.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: garbon on September 30, 2009, 02:30:58 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2009, 02:23:47 AM
300 was a terrible movie. What is it whith you guys all having a giant boner for it?

Fags.

If you change that bolded letter to an "a" then you wouldn't have needed to ask the question. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Octavian on September 30, 2009, 02:42:34 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 28, 2009, 03:10:48 PM
I've got a confession:

I sorta liked Wild Wild West.  :Embarrass:

yeah me to...I also liked Pluto Nash  :Embarrass:

Osmosis Jones was hillarious
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Korea on September 30, 2009, 11:18:13 AM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 30, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Am I the only one here who liked Waterworld? :blush:

I think Ide liked it too. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Korea on September 30, 2009, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: Octavian on September 30, 2009, 02:42:34 AM


Osmosis Jones was hillarious

I liked it too. :)
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Korea on September 30, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
It seems we Languishites have bad taste in movies.  :blush:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Barrister on September 30, 2009, 11:24:07 AM
Quote from: Korea on September 30, 2009, 11:19:46 AM
It seems we Languishites have bad taste in movies.  :blush:

Well since we clearly have bad taste in websites it goes to figure...
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Neil on September 30, 2009, 11:26:41 AM
Quote from: grumbler on September 28, 2009, 09:41:21 PM
and it wasn't released in "blockbuster season" (June, July, and December).
I'd say that the start of blockbuster season coincides with the start of what the industry considers to be 'summer', which is the month of May.

And December has always seemed less blockbustery and more Oscarbaity to me.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: saskganesh on September 30, 2009, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2009, 02:23:47 AM
300 was a terrible movie. What is it whith you guys all having a giant boner for it?

Fags.

'cause some of us like Frank Miller comic books. it's a great adaptation of  that.

what's even more exceptional about 300 is that most comic book adaptations suck.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: alfred russel on September 30, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Another terrible movie not on the list was "the mailman." Worse than waterworld, imo.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: ulmont on September 30, 2009, 03:17:16 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 30, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Another terrible movie not on the list was "the mailman." Worse than waterworld, imo.

Postman, not mailman.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 30, 2009, 03:20:55 PM
80 million production budget, 17 million domestic box office
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: alfred russel on September 30, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
Quote from: ulmont on September 30, 2009, 03:17:16 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on September 30, 2009, 01:15:55 PM
Another terrible movie not on the list was "the mailman." Worse than waterworld, imo.

Postman, not mailman.

Either way, it didn't deliver.

:blush:
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 30, 2009, 04:00:20 PM
Quote from: Ancient Demon on September 30, 2009, 12:19:59 AM
Am I the only one here who liked Waterworld? :blush:

No. I was prepared to hate it as I am not overly fond of Kevin Costner's acting and the reviews were shit.

But it is actually quite a good film. It is a tad overegged and the total flooding of the world scenario is scientifically implausible, but the overall story and "feel" of the film make it very watchable.

The Postman is shit, however. I agree with Alfred there.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 30, 2009, 04:02:41 PM
Has anyone here seen Waterworld more than once?  I bet not.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Razgovory on September 30, 2009, 04:03:52 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 30, 2009, 04:02:41 PM
Has anyone here seen Waterworld more than once?  I bet not.

I saw it once and a half.
Title: Re: Top 10 Blockbusters that sucked
Post by: Agelastus on September 30, 2009, 04:05:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on September 30, 2009, 04:02:41 PM
Has anyone here seen Waterworld more than once?  I bet not.

You'd lose.

I recorded the original UK TV broadcast, and, including TV repeats, have now watched it four times, I think.

This is, I agree, not something to be overly proud of. I defend myself by saying that on at least one occasion it was as background while I got on with more important things on the internet.