So...
You guys dont know me, and this isnt really "my" forum. I cant talk about this thing over at my regular place though, since it would be too easy to identify me in real life if I did. I dont know why I want to talk about this here really, but I suppose I just need a place to talk right now.
Anyway, here is my story.
I met a girl about two years ago. Before that I had been in relationships, and I suppose I thought Id been in love before. But it had never been like this before. I fell in love with her pretty quickly, and she fell in love with me. Everything was great. She moved in with me pretty soon after that, and yada yada...you know what its like to be perfectly happy and in love. I met her family, they loved me. She met my family, they loved her. Everything was picture-perfect.
After about six months we started talking about getting our own place. Not long after that we bought a house at the edge of town, right where the forest starts. We'd take long walks in the woods each night when we came home after work, spend time with the neighbours etc. She had alot of money, being a doctor, and I had enough to get around. Just after we bought the house, I got a new job, working for the government. A very high status job, very much my dream job. Think "west wing" and translate it to Swedish conditions, and I basically have the same job as Sam Seabourne. Taking the job meant a 3 hour commute back and forth everyday, but it was worth it. Around here I proposed to the girl, and she said yes. We began planning our wedding. The date was set for August this year. (we are now around January this year). She started shopping for a dress, we found a church, made invitations etc.
Work was interesting but demanding, I spent long hours at the office, but then again, so did she. She was very successful in her career, and she was very happy for me. We saw no problem in me not coming home until 8-9 pm every night and leaving at 6am. It was worth it. Needless to say, we had less time for eachother though, but that was expected, and we thought we could live with it. I was living my dream. I had the house Id always wanted. I had the girl of my dreams. I had the perfect career. My God, I had everything I had ever dreamed about.
Around the end of January, we were planning to get kids as soon as possible after the wedding. For that reason she decided to stop taking SSRI, an anti-depressant. She had been on anti-depressants since med school. Id never seen any sad or depressed side in her, but she had been suffering from depressions in med school and started taking the SSRI back then. Now she wanted to stop taking the pill because of the coming pregnancy. Apparently it might be bad for the fetus, that is not proven though, but she wanted to be on the safe side.
Things began to change a month or so after that. She became irritated and easily annoyed. She started yelling at me for no apparent reason and generally she became more confrontational. Not that it was a huge problem though, I just thought she'd get over whatever period she was going through. Her outbursts were not that common, they didnt happen more than once or twice a month, and I thought I could handle it. At the same time my workload at the office was heavy and I spent more time there. Our time together was reduced to saying good night at night, and me kissing her before heading for the train to Stockholm and my office.
Our marriage drew closer, and the invitations went out in May. A week after that she was on a conference in another town for a week. She left monday and came home friday. Everything was great on that friday, we talked alot, agreed that we had drifted apart somewhat, but we both agreed that it would pass and that we still loved eachother etc. The saturday after that she had a 24-hour shift at the hospital. She came home on sunday morning and everything was wrong. She was very stressed, shaking, suffering from panic attacks and anxiety. She had not slept anything during the 24 hour shift, and she had been through some very stressing episodes with patients etc. Anyway, she was crying, curled up in bed, going through panic attacks, crying that she felt so bad and only wanted to die etc. It was something really frightening to watch. I tried to calm her down and just be there for her I guess. We called her sister, who is also a doctor, and they talked for hours. It was decided that she would start with the SSRI again. Her sister would come live with us for a couple of days until she felt better.
I left for work on Monday, her sister was there to make sure my fiancee was ok. When I came back that night, my fiancee wanted to talk. Sure. What about? I want to break up. What?
Basically she said that it was my fault that she had felt bad for the past months. She now felt things had reached a point and she needed to end our relationship to get out of the stress. Only after that would she get better again. I was like...uh...what? She went on about how she was stressed about the wedding, how I was the reason behind her depression and how I needed to go so she could feel good about herself again. I was like...uh...what? I asked her if she really thought this was the right time to make such a desicion...after all, she was suffering from panic attacks, anxiety, she was shaking pretty much all the time from adrenaline/stress or whatever (she had been shaking since she got home that sunday after the 24 hour shift). She maintained that I was the reason she was feeling depressed and filled with anxiety, and I needed to go. Tomorrow.
So, she threw me out.
I moved out, thinking that she would come to her senses when the SSRI-pills started working again. She avoided me for about two weeks. Cancelled the wedding. And then wanted me to come over and pick up my things. I went over there and we talked. And we talked and we talked. Basically she said that she might have made a misstake, that she did not think it was my fault that she felt that bad, that she still loved me...but..."things had gone too far now, too many things are destroyed" so she would not take me back for any reason whatsoever. I was like...wtf...
I retreated to my office. Buried myself in work. Tried not to think too much, I feared I would go insane if I did. She'd call me now and again, we would talk. I would tell her that I still loved her and would do anything for her. She'd say she still loved me and that she was devastated that things had turned out this way, saying that throwing me out was the worst misstake of her life. And I was like "I dont get it. I love you, you love me. You say it was a misstake to throw me out and end our relationship. I miss you, you miss me...why dont we give it another chance?" But she was like..."no, its gone too far now, it cannot be salvaged...I am sorry".
A couple of weeks ago, she killed herself. 29 years old. She hung herself in our house. I was the last person she talked to, she called me around 11pm and we chatted about small stuff...nothing particular. She asked me about some mail, we talked about the next week and whether we should meet for a coffee or not, we talked about my work. We hung up, she changed her status on facebook to something along the lines of "only two more weeks before my vacation" and then..sometime during the night, she hung herself. Not in a normal way either, she stood on her toes, tied herself to the stairs, and just stopped standing on her toes...when you do it like that, it takes about a minute or so to lose counciousness...during that time, you can very easily abort the suicide attempt...so she was definitively determined to do it.
So... My life went from "engaged to be married in a month" to "wtf" in the blink of an eye, and then it went to "nightmare" a couple of weeks later. I just dont get it.
And now Im sitting here, drinking.
I found my old phone today, and in it there are dozens of photos from two years ago when we had just gotten together. Lots of old text messages, including the first ones I ever got from her. I guess Im just swamped with memories right now.
Holy shit. :(
That's terrible. So sorry man.
My goodness. :(
That's bad, my sympathies. Panic attacks and such diseases are not something I wish upon my worst enemy.
That's awful. :console:
That's terrible. :(
So in short, you're single again?
Seriously though, that's just terrible man. :(
:(
:nelson
Actually, I'm not :nelson ing at you, I'm :nelson ing the chick, who did you both favors.
You'll realize that later on.
:(
Wow, that's really fucking horrible.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 03:58:22 PM
Actually, I'm not :nelson ing at you, I'm :nelson ing the chick, who did you both favors.
You'll realize that later on.
I was all gung ho on the "you needed to slow down, partner" bit until I got to the suicide. There really isn't much to say after that.
Ouch.
I blaim depression pills. Those things fuck with people seriously.
Btw, are you Hortlund by any chance? Your posting style seems similar?
I was fully expecting a dating site link by the end of that story.
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2009, 04:47:58 PM
Btw, are you Hortlund by any chance? Your posting style seems similar?
I sincerely doubt Hortlund could get that depressed over anything. Remember, he abandoned his children and cruises for high school chicks.
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2009, 04:47:58 PM
Btw, are you Hortlund by any chance? Your posting style seems similar?
Oh shit...
It could well be him.
He was the guy who left here because he thought it'd hurt his political career right?
I remember he met a nice woman who was a doctor too....
Surely he'd come clean about it though rather than hiding behind a sock?
You're assuming that Hortlund was telling us the truth about himself. I always found him very, very hard to believe.
We're also assuming this story is even real.
Well, I don't see any harm in conceding that or at least giving this guy the benefit of the doubt.
My condolences, bluebook :console:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 04:56:18 PMI sincerely doubt Hortlund could get that depressed over anything. Remember, he abandoned his children and cruises for high school chicks.
Yeah, but the posting styles are uncanny, GrafdeGeld. Hortlund would regularly leave his heart on his sleeve like that, with both personal and professional conundrums. Plus, he went into public service and had the hots for some female doctor. And I note, he mentions Sweden and Stockholm
*puffs on pipe* It all fits Dr. Watson.
In which case, I'm really sorry for you Hortlund. :(
If it is Hortlund, he wanted us to realize it, too much unnecessary biographical info.
Assuming the story is true, which I will, my condolences Bluebook, whoever you are. :(
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 04:56:18 PMI sincerely doubt Hortlund could get that depressed over anything. Remember, he abandoned his children and cruises for high school chicks.
Yeah, but the posting styles are uncanny, GrafdeGeld. Hortlund would regularly leave his heart on his sleeve like that, with both personal and professional conundrums. Plus, he went into public service and had the hots for some female doctor. And I note, he mentions Sweden and Stockholm
*puffs on pipe* It all fits Dr. Watson.
In which case, I'm really sorry for you Hortlund. :(
"Why Holmes, that's positively douchebaggy!"
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 05:16:08 PM"Why Holmes, that's positively douchebaggy!"
:lol:
Well served sir!
I guess Bluebook/Horty has the next move.
Wow condolences man.....that's a terrible story, I'm sorry.
What happened to you is terrible.
But it is important that you avoid her fate.
A time will come when you must forget her and move on, and I hope that day will come soon :hug:
Quote from: garbon on September 07, 2009, 04:04:47 PM
I was all gung ho on the "you needed to slow down, partner" bit until I got to the suicide. There really isn't much to say after that.
Yeah, I'm glad I read to the end of the post before responding.
Wasn't someone called Saladin or something that worked in the government on the old languish? Can't this be him?
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 04:56:18 PMI sincerely doubt Hortlund could get that depressed over anything. Remember, he abandoned his children and cruises for high school chicks.
Yeah, but the posting styles are uncanny, GrafdeGeld. Hortlund would regularly leave his heart on his sleeve like that, with both personal and professional conundrums. Plus, he went into public service and had the hots for some female doctor. And I note, he mentions Sweden and Stockholm
Not to mention his profound interest in WitP-AE.
Anyways, sorry to hear your story, Hort/blue, not much more that I can offer besides my sincere condolences. :(
Im really, really sorry. I was just lying awake at night yesterday pondering what i'd do if fortune took the woman of my dreams away from me by some fickle chance- I figure i'd end it my own self, rather than start over.
That's horrible. Your young and successful, and that may have more meaning to you again in the future, at least.
I don't really know what to say, but that story was horrible. My condolences.
Welp.
Quote from: Legbiter on September 07, 2009, 05:08:25 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 07, 2009, 04:56:18 PMI sincerely doubt Hortlund could get that depressed over anything. Remember, he abandoned his children and cruises for high school chicks.
Yeah, but the posting styles are uncanny, GrafdeGeld. Hortlund would regularly leave his heart on his sleeve like that, with both personal and professional conundrums. Plus, he went into public service and had the hots for some female doctor. And I note, he mentions Sweden and Stockholm
*puffs on pipe* It all fits Dr. Watson.
In which case, I'm really sorry for you Hortlund. :(
His other posts don't scream Hortlund, but some are in line. There is some similarity in style and an effort is made to tell us how important he is.
Well that was my depressing story for the day. :(
My condolensces. :console:
Quote from: Grey Fox on September 07, 2009, 04:51:18 PM
I was fully expecting a dating site link by the end of that story.
Yeah, me too. Well, before the suicide part. :Embarrass:
Thanks for the sympathy guys.
Im not Hortlund, whoever that is, but if it makes any difference, my nickname at the old forum was Oxenstierna.
That's a horrible story. I can only say I'm sorry for you.
Quote from: Bluebook on September 08, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
Thanks for the sympathy guys.
Im not Hortlund, whoever that is, but if it makes any difference, my nickname at the old forum was Oxenstierna.
Oh, I remember you. :(
Wow, I'm so sorry. :(
You have my sincere condolences. :console:
Wow it is like every soon-to-be Groom's nightmare.
I am so sorry man that sounds like one of the worst things ever.
Terrible story. :console: I feel really sorry for you.
PS: Hortlund was another Swedish user who sometimes posted stories about his life and was also a big WITP fan, so that's why people may have thought that you were him.
Man, that's rough. :(
Yeah...
What really gets me though is that I never saw it coming. Usually when a relationship is ending, you can see the writing on the wall. Or at least you worry about seeing the writing on the wall. This went from "perfect" to "Its over and I want you to move out tomorrow" in the blink of an eye. When I talked to her about it, saw it the same way. She never considered us breaking up before that panic-attack-weekend, and then she "just knew" she had to leave me in order to avoid the stress and "get her mental health back".
Quote from: Bluebook on September 08, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
Yeah...
What really gets me though is that I never saw it coming. Usually when a relationship is ending, you can see the writing on the wall. Or at least you worry about seeing the writing on the wall. This went from "perfect" to "Its over and I want you to move out tomorrow" in the blink of an eye. When I talked to her about it, saw it the same way. She never considered us breaking up before that panic-attack-weekend, and then she "just knew" she had to leave me in order to avoid the stress and "get her mental health back".
Well that is what is so horrible about mental illness. You had no way to know her problem was this serious.
Quote from: Valmy on September 08, 2009, 01:26:29 PM
Well that is what is so horrible about mental illness. You had no way to know her problem was this serious.
It's hard for me to imagine there were *no* warning signs, but I've never been with a woman who was obviously this deeply depressed so I have no way of relating.
Usually it's pretty hard NOT to see it coming. When it comes out of nowhere like that, it's usually some kind of life-changing event. The one time it happened to me it certainly was. Obviously, this was a major issue that came in from outer space without warning and clearly a life-changing event for her. From your account, it seems like she just became a completely different person when she went off the meds. Not your fault in any way, but damn it's heartbreaking.
Quote from: Bluebook on September 08, 2009, 01:18:46 PM
Yeah...
What really gets me though is that I never saw it coming. Usually when a relationship is ending, you can see the writing on the wall. Or at least you worry about seeing the writing on the wall. This went from "perfect" to "Its over and I want you to move out tomorrow" in the blink of an eye. When I talked to her about it, saw it the same way. She never considered us breaking up before that panic-attack-weekend, and then she "just knew" she had to leave me in order to avoid the stress and "get her mental health back".
When it comes to goofy chicks, better to not be able to read the writing on the wall than have your brains splattered all over it.
Personally, I think you're taking this whole suicide thing too heavy. Now you don't have to worry about stalking her, what with all the effort that goes into that sort of thing.
Think of it this way: it's sorta like a "she left you" break-up, except now you're 100% sure she's not going to date your best friend or a bang a black dude. So you've got that going for you.
Oh, and I haven't even gotten to all the bonus pity pussy you could score with all this. You know how many single guys wish they were lucky enough to have dead fiancees in their CV?
"He's cute! What's his name?"
"Oh, that's Dave!"
"What's his story? Is he single?"
"Yes, his fiancee died a couple months ago."
"Oh my God, that is just sooooo sad...!"
*PUSSY JUICE TSUNAMI FLOODS THIRD WORLD COUNTRY*
I mean, c'mon. The possibilities are endless. You could milk this for at least a couple years.
If it Hortlund he's probably leaving something out. I am suspicious about the whole thing.
Quote from: Bluebook on September 08, 2009, 10:37:51 AM
Thanks for the sympathy guys.
Im not Hortlund, whoever that is, but if it makes any difference, my nickname at the old forum was Oxenstierna.
Yeah, I remember you too.
Quote from: Tyr on September 07, 2009, 04:27:15 PM
Ouch.
I blaim depression pills. Those things fuck with people seriously.
They also do a lot of good for a lot of people.
QuoteYeah, I remember you too.
Same
I'm so sorry Ox, there's no more to say :(
My deepest sympathies, Blue.
Quote from: Caliga on September 08, 2009, 02:46:51 PM
It's hard for me to imagine there were *no* warning signs, but I've never been with a woman who was obviously this deeply depressed so I have no way of relating.
Well she was on meds, if the condition is entirely biochemical he wouldn't have seen anything until the physical problem manifested like in this case. It wasn't like there was any rational or logical trauma that was upsetting her, like how she inexplicably wouldn't get back together with him.
Quote from: Razgovory on September 08, 2009, 05:10:38 PM
If it Hortlund he's probably leaving something out. I am suspicious about the whole thing.
There was no way it could have been Hortlund: the woman was clearly not 17 and he did not post a pic of her or describe how hot her body was.
Don't the Scandies have a high suicide rate? :cry:
Quote from: citizen k on September 09, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Don't the Scandies have a high suicide rate? :cry:
Yes. And the Belgians too, apparently
Quote from: citizen k on September 09, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Don't the Scandies have a high suicide rate? :cry:
No. Denmark, Norway, and Sweden are below the OECD average.
Finland has a high suicide rate, but still not as high as Hungary (Hi Tamas!).
http://titania.sourceoecd.org/vl=5507398/cl=13/nw=1/rpsv/factbook2009/11/02/01/11-02-01-g1b.htm
Yeah, that really sucks. My condolences. :(
Did she go cold turkey (stop immediately) off the SSRI or taper down gradually? Rebound depression and anxiety (that can be worse than the original pre-treatment condition) is more likely to happen if you stop treatment really fast. It could also be her underlying condition returning. A month after treatment stopping is about right. A month is about the time scale for 5HT-1A (Serotonin receptor) autoreceptor down/up-regulation. Receptor down-regulation is posited as one of the mechanisms of SSRI actions (this is by no means know for sure, why SSRIs work and which patients they will work on is still a bit of a mystery). It seems it could just have been anxiety/depression returning. :( I know a couple people who use SSRIs regularly and it takes about a month for them to wear off. For them after about a month or so they basically just went back to how they were before treatment. I saw this several times with my sister she would just go on and off again and again, because it was basically exchanging one set of problems for another until she found one where the side effects could be handled.
Yeah the birth defects is a worry. Nothing is definitive, except maybe paroxetine which seems to have the strongest indication of physical birth defects. Then that probably isn't surprising, paroxetine is the "dirtiest" of the SSRIs (it has the most direct effect on other neurotransmitter systems than Serotonin). Whether it has any long-term cognitive effects on the child isn't really know. It is really hard to know what the right thing to do, and sucks that this happened.
For a lot of people SSRIs can really help a ton (I have seen it myself in family members), but they have to be used carefully. Part of their bad rap, I think, stems from the fact that a lot of GPs hand them out like candy that is completely non-dangerous to their patients with no follow-up, just start the patient at the full dose instead of ramping it up slowly, and pick the drug based on what pharma-rep gave them the most pens/posters/free trips. From my family members experiences they have had a lot better experiences when a actual psychiatrist was managing the treatment, but YMMV of course (some psychiatrists suck too!).
Also one thing that always amused me is doctors saying they don't change your personality! That makes no sense, if the didn't then they would be useless (that's the whole point of them ;) ) The changes aren't always (or even most of the time) bad of course, but it has been my experience that they do change people. This does bring up questions in relationships which I have encountered to a degree myself. You get along with the person on the meds, but not the person they are off them and vice-versa. Which is the real person? Is that even a valid way to think about it? etc. It really sucks having to deal with all that especially when someone you know goes on and off their meds because neither state is really all that good and witnessing all the pain it causes them. Your situation is so many orders of magnitude worse! I can't even imagine. I am sorry you had to go through all of this. If you need someone to talk to about this type of thing let me know.
What I have heard is that the drugs can increase the dangers of suicide because of the following factors:
- two of the symptoms of depression are suicidial thoughts and lethargy;
- to an extent, the lethargy tends to counteract the suicidial thoughts being put into practice (briefly, the sufferer may think suicide is a good idea, but is too apathetic to actually do it);
- the effects of the drugs are not always predictable, and sometimes they counteract some of the symptoms before/instead of others;
- the patient may "lose" the lethargy before they "lose" the suicidal thoughts. Now, while they may not be any more suicidial than they were before, they have much greater ability to carry it out;
- the same can happen if a person goes off the drugs - i.e. they may "regain" suicidial thoughts and not yet "regain" lethargy.
Not suggesting that this happened in this case, but it is a possibility.
In any event, my sincere condolences.
Research from about two years ago showed there was a risk of "new suicidal thoughts" in people taking SSRIs - i.e. they hadn't considered it when they were merely depressed.
That combined with the fact that no-one's really sure how they work and a raft of side effects means they should be prescribed and supervised with a lot more care.
Quote from: citizen k on September 09, 2009, 10:08:21 AM
Don't the Scandies have a high suicide rate? :cry:
As ulmont pointed out, no. But female doctors actually do, much more than male.
Just FYI, I have never known a female doctor (in my personal life I mean) who seemed completely 'sane'. :mellow:
Quote from: Caliga on September 09, 2009, 11:57:10 AM
Just FYI, I have never known a female doctor (in my personal life I mean) who seemed completely 'sane'. :mellow:
You know, you can replace "female doctor" with "female" or with "person" in the above, and I'd still agree with it.
Oh, I have known completely sane females, as well as people. I'm sure there are completely sane female docs out there, but I've yet to know one on anything other than a professional level. ^_^
wow harsh. My condolences. Obviously she was pretty troubled, which just makes the whole thing sadder. Take it one day a time is the only platitude that works in this kind of scenario, I think. :chin up:
:(
My condolences, Bluebook :(
L.
Thanks. This too shall pass, I suppose. It just seems so bloody unfair, on me as well as on her.
Went to see a psychologist last week, and she said that my ex fiancee was probably a very manipulative person (not knowingly, but rather subconciously) and that she probably choose suicide because she was coming to the realization that she had to change, and she could not handle that. Some people will go to great lengths to avoid having to change their self-image it seems. Or perhaps it was some sort of massive attack of self contempt that was brought about by the realization that she had ruined pretty much everything good in her life because of her depression/illness.
Anyway, the shrink told me to stop trying to understand why she killed herself and instead focus on myself and where my emotions are in all this...but how easy is that?
Quote from: Bluebook on September 17, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Anyway, the shrink told me to stop trying to understand why she killed herself and instead focus on myself and where my emotions are in all this...but how easy is that?
Pretty fucking easy. Her dead. You not.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2009, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on September 17, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Anyway, the shrink told me to stop trying to understand why she killed herself and instead focus on myself and where my emotions are in all this...but how easy is that?
Pretty fucking easy. Her dead. You not.
Now, now. Most people are heterosexual, and have feelings for women other than annoyance and contempt.
It's the 21st century. You can come out and live an honest life of Grallonism, rather than dating Asian women with no curves and making them lower their voice an octave during sex.
Quote from: Neil on September 17, 2009, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 17, 2009, 06:48:05 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on September 17, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Anyway, the shrink told me to stop trying to understand why she killed herself and instead focus on myself and where my emotions are in all this...but how easy is that?
Pretty fucking easy. Her dead. You not.
Now, now. Most people are heterosexual, and have feelings for women other than annoyance and contempt.
It's the 21st century. You can come out and live an honest life of Grallonism, rather than dating Asian women with no curves and making them lower their voice an octave during sex.
I'm just trying to help a brother out. The chick's dead. He needs to get on with his life, and use a dead girlfriend as an excuse to score really awesome sympathy sex.
Condolences, bluebook. You can't put a price on a human life. :(
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Now, now. Most people are heterosexual, and have feelings for women other than annoyance and contempt.
It's the 21st century. You can come out and live an honest life of Grallonism, rather than dating Asian women with no curves and making them lower their voice an octave during sex.
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As it turns out, Christmas is a great time to get drunk alot.
Perhaps all this would be easier if I didnt dream about her so often.
You aren't Brazilian, are you?
Condolences. Sad story there. :(
Quote from: Bluebook on December 27, 2009, 03:10:41 PM
As it turns out, Christmas is a great time to get drunk alot.
Perhaps all this would be easier if I didnt dream about her so often.
You need to man up, buckaroo. New Year's is a primo target window for sympathy sex. Plenty of chicks out there would be more than happy to let you into their honeypots over your tale of woe.
Hell, I might just use your story myself, Bluebook. God knows I can no longer score with my own. :moon:
:lol:
Getting one-nighters is not really the problem here though, but thanks..
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 06:18:24 AM
:lol:
Getting one-nighters is not really the problem here though, but thanks..
Well, the last thing you need is another fruity ass long term relationship. Too many schmucks here want to go from multi-year relationship to multi-year relationship. Heaven forbid they spend 2 weeks alone.
Whats wrong with long term relationships? I'll take one of those over fifty one nighters anytime.
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 06:34:02 AM
Whats wrong with long term relationships? I'll take one of those over fifty one nighters anytime.
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"This is hardly a time to be teaching you the true nature of the universe."
Take the one nighters while you can still get them. They don't preclude you from looking for something long term anyway.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 28, 2009, 06:16:41 AM
Hell, I might just use your story myself, Bluebook. God knows I can no longer score with my own. :moon:
Dude, I don't think yours expires for a couple more years. That's gotta be at least a 5-10 year story...
Whats his story then?
I think Banana is confused. I sure don't know any Seedy story that would merit sympathy trim.
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Whats his story then?
He worked for the Haig campaign in '88.
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Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2009, 05:43:44 PM
I think Banana is confused. I sure don't know any Seedy story that would merit sympathy trim.
What about the one about him being a single guy who lives with his cats and has noone to play his games with? That one's pretty sad, if you ask me. :P
Quote from: Razgovory on December 28, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Whats his story then?
He worked for the Haig campaign in '88.
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The General was misunderstood.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2009, 05:43:44 PM
I think Banana is confused. I sure don't know any Seedy story that would merit sympathy trim.
The fiancee fatality story.
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 28, 2009, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 28, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Whats his story then?
He worked for the Haig campaign in '88.
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The General was misunderstood.
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Was he essentially a man of peace?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 28, 2009, 06:40:35 PM
You're confused.
:moon:
Upon further review, you're right. That was Ed. But I'm sure Seeds could make use of that one as well. :contract:
Quote from: Martinus on December 28, 2009, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on December 28, 2009, 06:38:36 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on December 28, 2009, 06:04:51 PM
Quote from: Bluebook on December 28, 2009, 09:33:03 AM
Whats his story then?
He worked for the Haig campaign in '88.
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The General was misunderstood.
Was he essentially a man of peace?
No, he was in charge while Poppa Bush was out of position.
you were supposed to answer "Except in his domestic life." :rolleyes:
I really wish people would just drop the Al Haig thing. He was, technically, right. He was in charge in that room.
Quote from: Martinus on December 28, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
you were supposed to answer "Except in his domestic life." :rolleyes:
You stupid Pole, you don't know any Al Haig trivia.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on December 28, 2009, 06:50:04 PM
I really wish people would just drop the Al Haig thing. He was, technically, right. He was in charge in that room.
:yes: :salute:
Quote from: Razgovory on December 29, 2009, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: Martinus on December 28, 2009, 06:49:38 PM
you were supposed to answer "Except in his domestic life." :rolleyes:
You stupid Pole, you don't know any Al Haig trivia.
Like I'm supposed to know his gay ass quotes.
seldom has cd been so right on so many points in one thread
bluebook, my condolences
re-read cd's posts in 5 years
Quote from: Rasputin on December 29, 2009, 08:23:16 AM
seldom has cd been so right on so many points in one thread
bluebook, my condolences
re-read cd's posts in 5 years
Thank you, my good man. At least somebody appreciates my polished jewels of wisdom.