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Title: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 02:32:02 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090812/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_medal_of_freedom

QuotePresident Barack Obama is presenting the nation's highest civilian honor to 16 actors, athletes, activists, scientists and humanitarians.

Among those receiving the Presidential Medal of Freedom at a White House ceremony Wednesday are film star Sidney Poitier, civil rights leader Rev. Joseph Lowery and tennis legend Billie Jean King.

Others being honored are retired Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor and retired Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy is getting the medal, too, but the Massachusetts Democrat is not at the White House due to his fight against brain cancer.

Posthumous awards are going to former Republican Rep. Jack Kemp of New York and gay rights activist Harvey Milk.

I'm glad that Fat Ted is getting honored.

Oh and for Fae, Marty, etc, look at our strong supporter. He's honoring a dead gay guy. :swiss:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Brain on August 12, 2009, 02:35:31 PM
Medal of French? Weird name.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 12, 2009, 02:35:31 PM
Medal of French? Weird name.

In memory of Field Marshall John French, 1st Earl of Ypres.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Brain on August 12, 2009, 02:39:15 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: The Brain on August 12, 2009, 02:35:31 PM
Medal of French? Weird name.

In memory of Field Marshall John French, 1st Earl of Ypres.

Makes sense.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:00:06 PM
QuoteSidney Poitier
:thumbsup:

QuoteRev. Joseph Lowery
:bleeding:

QuoteBillie Jean King
:x

QuoteSandra Day O'Connor
:mellow:

QuoteDesmond Tutu
:bash:

QuoteEdward M. Kennedy
:ultra:

QuoteJack Kemp
:thumbsup:

QuoteHarvey Milk
:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:06:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:00:06 PM
QuoteHarvey Milk
:rolleyes:

Hey, with luck (from your point of view) that'll be the only gay "change" he'll enact. ;)
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 03:07:56 PM
Yeah, the Ted Kennedy thing is an outrage.  HE'S A DRUNK AND A MURDERER, YOU MORONS.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:09:11 PM
It is a testament to our great nation that even after negligently killing young woman you are trying to have sex with, you can still go on to receive an award like this.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:09:11 PM
It is a testament to our great nation that even after negligently killing young woman you are trying to have sex with, you can still go on to receive an award like this.

You don't think that Kennedy has made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural, or other significant public or private endeavors"?
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 03:11:39 PM
QuoteDesmond Tutu

His rather black and white (no pun intended) views on Israel are rather frustrating.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:09:11 PM
It is a testament to our great nation that even after negligently killing young woman you are trying to have sex with, you can still go on to receive an award like this.
I can't figure out why Obama so openly and flagrantly worships the guy.  He's nothing but a massive pile of baggage.  I mean, why the fuck was he given that big central role at the DNC last year?  I don't recall Clinton ever doing anything like that with Uncle Teddy.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:13:15 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:10:42 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:09:11 PM
It is a testament to our great nation that even after negligently killing young woman you are trying to have sex with, you can still go on to receive an award like this.

You don't think that Kennedy has made "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural, or other significant public or private endeavors"?

Of course he hasn't. Unless you count being a Kennedy and getting cancer as "especially meritorious...etcetcetc"
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:06:24 PM
Hey, with luck (from your point of view) that'll be the only gay "change" he'll enact. ;)

Yeah, enjoy the bone he tossed your way :P
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:13:15 PM
Of course he hasn't. Unless you count being a Kennedy and getting cancer as "especially meritorious...etcetcetc"

Wikipedia says that he helped pass the National Cancer Act of 1971.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Yeah, enjoy the bone he tossed your way :P

There are only two things that Obama could do that I would enjoy: a) resign, or b) give me 40 acres and a mule*.


*because of the one drop rule, I don't think my bi-racial heritage should cut my claim in half.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:20:03 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 03:11:39 PM
QuoteDesmond Tutu

His rather black and white (no pun intended) views on Israel are rather frustrating.

He lost me forever when he told Reagan to go to hell.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Yeah, enjoy the bone he tossed your way :P

There are only two things that Obama could do that I would enjoy: a) resign, or b) give me 40 acres and a mule*.


*because of the one drop rule, I don't think my bi-racial heritage should cut my claim in half.

Nein.  You will get 20 acres & whichever half of the mule The Man decides you get.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Nein.  You will get 20 acres & whichever half of the mule The Man decides you get.

Obama's currently the Man. :wub:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:23:32 PM
Obama's currently the Man. :wub:

That's what his jewish handlers want you to think.  Just go ask Rev. Wright :contract:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:29:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:27:26 PM
That's what his jewish handlers want you to think.  Just go ask Rev. Wright :contract:

I don't listen to religious and/or racist people.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:29:08 PM
I don't listen to religious and/or racist people.

That's almost all of Languish :unsure:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Brain on August 12, 2009, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:13:29 PM
Yeah, enjoy the bone he tossed your way :P

There are only two things that Obama could do that I would enjoy: a) resign, or b) give me 40 acres and a mule*.


*because of the one drop rule, I don't think my bi-racial heritage should cut my claim in half.

Nein.  You will get 20 acres & whichever half of the mule The Man decides you get.

It's all good.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:34:11 PM
That's almost all of Languish :unsure:
Oh I don't consider people who attend fruity churches, like Unitarian ones, to be religious.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Sahib on August 12, 2009, 03:46:18 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:29:08 PM
I don't listen to religious and/or racist people.

That's almost all of Languish :unsure:

We have religious people here  :huh:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 12, 2009, 03:47:40 PM
The exact medals and citations are as follows:

Sideny Poitier - Presidential Medallion for Preserverance in Film Direction, for his work in directing Ghost Dad
Rev. Joseph Lowery - Presidential "Mellow Yellow" Award, for his inauguration benediction
Billie Jean King - Presidential Time for Payback Ribbon - for beating senseless an over the hill white guy.
Sandra Day O'Connor - Presidential Order of Outcome Oriented Jurisprudence - lifetime achievement award.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa - The "Marti" Medal - special Presidential award for least homophobic African cleric.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy - Presidential Meritorious Motor Vehicle Operation Citation.
Jack Kemp - Presidential Are You Still Around And if So Why? Badge
Harvey Milk. - Special Presidential Citation for Grace Under Fire
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Ed Anger on August 12, 2009, 03:52:46 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 12, 2009, 03:47:40 PM
The exact medals and citations are as follows:

Sideny Poitier - Presidential Medallion for Preserverance in Film Direction, for his work in directing Ghost Dad
Rev. Joseph Lowery - Presidential "Mellow Yellow" Award, for his inauguration benediction
Billie Jean King - Presidential Time for Payback Ribbon - for beating senseless an over the hill white guy.
Sandra Day O'Connor - Presidential Order of Outcome Oriented Jurisprudence - lifetime achievement award.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa - The "Marti" Medal - special Presidential award for least homophobic African cleric.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy - Presidential Meritorious Motor Vehicle Operation Citation.
Jack Kemp - Presidential Are You Still Around And if So Why? Badge
Harvey Milk. - Special Presidential Citation for Grace Under Fire

:D
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
Oh I don't consider people who attend fruity churches, like Unitarian ones, to be religious.

So only people who attend false churches who spit on truth and curse virtue are religious?
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
So only people who attend false churches who spit on truth and curse virtue are religious?

Pretty much.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 04:59:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
So only people who attend false churches who spit on truth and curse virtue are religious?

Pretty much.

Then I shall take that as a compliment!

But there is nothing fruity about my hippy religion.  It is serious business.  I live to smite heretics.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
Then I shall take that as a compliment!

You should and it also means that I view associating with you as favorable. :hug:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:42:53 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 02:32:02 PM

Oh and for Fae, Marty, etc, look at our strong supporter. He's honoring a dead gay guy. :swiss:

Is this his way of saying that the only good gay is a dead gay? :unsure:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 05:00:28 PM
I live to smite heretics.
Do you smite them with cookies and well-worded conciliatory orations? :P

Anyway I'm with garbon - I consider you to be non-religious, too, to your credit. :D
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on August 12, 2009, 03:47:40 PM
The exact medals and citations are as follows:

Sideny Poitier - Presidential Medallion for Preserverance in Film Direction, for his work in directing Ghost Dad
Rev. Joseph Lowery - Presidential "Mellow Yellow" Award, for his inauguration benediction
Billie Jean King - Presidential Time for Payback Ribbon - for beating senseless an over the hill white guy.
Sandra Day O'Connor - Presidential Order of Outcome Oriented Jurisprudence - lifetime achievement award.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa - The "Marti" Medal - special Presidential award for least homophobic African cleric.
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy - Presidential Meritorious Motor Vehicle Operation Citation.
Jack Kemp - Presidential Are You Still Around And if So Why? Badge
Harvey Milk. - Special Presidential Citation for Grace Under Fire
:D
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
Oh and BURN IN HELL JACK KEMP.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Admiral Yi on August 12, 2009, 05:55:34 PM
GOD DAMN HARVEY MILK.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Oh, King is a dyke so it's 2:1. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Oh, King is a dyke so it's 2:1. :thumbsup:
Every one of them except for those two was heterosexual.  Moreover, a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage will pass, with Obama's endorsement.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:13:29 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2009, 04:56:52 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 03:37:40 PM
Oh I don't consider people who attend fruity churches, like Unitarian ones, to be religious.

So only people who attend false churches who spit on truth and curse virtue are religious?
Not entirely.  However, My adherents don't show as much zeal as those of the false gods, which is just the way that I like it.  I would never think to encourage people to lock themselves away from football games on Sunday mornings.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Oh, King is a dyke so it's 2:1. :thumbsup:
Every one of them except for those two was heterosexual.  Moreover, a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage will pass, with Obama's endorsement.

Tutu also supports gay rights.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:08:46 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:01:52 PM
Oh, King is a dyke so it's 2:1. :thumbsup:
Every one of them except for those two was heterosexual.  Moreover, a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage will pass, with Obama's endorsement.

Tutu also supports gay rights.
Yeah, but you hate him because he's a Catholic.  Although, like you, he's a mindless anti-semite, so I guess it's more complicated than that.

Besides, the most important thing is that Obama does not support gay rights.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Besides, the most important thing is that Obama does not support gay rights.

Who died and made Obama important?
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Yeah, but you hate him because he's a Catholic.

:huh:

Link please.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Yeah, but you hate him because he's a Catholic.

:huh:

Link please.
Anglicans are the same as Catholics.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Sheilbh on August 12, 2009, 07:13:05 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: Berkut on August 12, 2009, 03:09:11 PM
It is a testament to our great nation that even after negligently killing young woman you are trying to have sex with, you can still go on to receive an award like this.
I can't figure out why Obama so openly and flagrantly worships the guy.  He's nothing but a massive pile of baggage.  I mean, why the fuck was he given that big central role at the DNC last year?  I don't recall Clinton ever doing anything like that with Uncle Teddy.
Sentimentality.  Because it looked like being his last campaign and last convention. 

QuoteYeah, but you hate him because he's a Catholic.
Will no-one respect the Anglican Communion :weep:

I love Tutu.  The guy gives an amazing speech.  When he starts his 'MR HU.  YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST...' bit of his speeches it's beautiful.

I generally like the list.  Even Jack Kemp :o
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Neil on August 12, 2009, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 12, 2009, 07:13:05 PM
Will no-one respect the Anglican Communion :weep:
You can't respect someone who doesn't respect themself.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
Oh and BURN IN HELL JACK KEMP.
Remind me why you hate Jack Kemp so much?  I mean, I think I can probably guess, but...  ;)
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 08:00:43 PM
Remind me why you hate Jack Kemp so much?  I mean, I think I can probably guess, but...  ;)

http://www.thetaskforce.org/press/releases/pr188_081096

QuoteJACK KEMP'S RECORD ON GAY AND AIDS ISSUES

OPPOSED the Supreme Court decision overturing Colorado's Amendment Two, a state ballot initiative that outlawed civil rights protection for gay people. "Clearly in my opinion however, I'm not as clear as I would like it to be -- I think Justice Kennedy was wrong in suggesting that the people of Colorado had an animosity toward gay people. What they were basically saying, they shouldn't get special rights." May 25, 1996 - Capital Gang Saturday - CNN

OPPOSED a union-negotiated non-discrimination policy and limited family benefits for gay couples at HUD in 1992. After the contract was negotiated with the American Federation of Government Employees, HUD Secretary Jack Kemp wrote the union in March 1990 saying he would not approve the contract "because the clause has been widely viewed as extending domestic partnership benefits to gay and lesbian employees." Kemp also objected to the anti-discrimination provision on the grounds that it went beyond existing federal law. September 18., 1992 - The Washington Post

FAVORS firing teachers who are gay. "I would suggest that we want all Americans to enjoy civil liberties and the right to privacy, and we have to at the same time recognize that there have to be public standards. I think a school board should have the right to choose what type of example we have for our children in public schools." December 20, 1987 - Interview with David Frost as reported by the Washington Post

CREATES AND SUPPORTS arch-conservative, right wing policy as a Distinguished Fellow of the Heritage Foundation, the preeminent think tank of the Right.

DID NOT SUPPORT expansion of civil rights protections, including those for people with contagious diseases such as HIV, by voting to sustain President Reagan's veto of the 1988 Civil Rights Restoration Act in the 100th Congress. Jerry Falwell had launched a disinformation campaign around the vote termed "unmatched by any other in recent memory" by Members of Congress. (S.557, 1988)

SIDED WITH NOTORIOUS ANTI-GAY Congressman William Dannemeyer's attempts to repeal the D.C. AIDS Insurance Bill and an amendment that would have provided a religious exemption to the D.C. Human Rights Ordinance against discrimination based on sexual orientation (H.R. 4776, 1988).

SUPPORTED REP. DANNEMEYER'S attempts to pass legislation that mandated the reporting of names of individuals who tested positive for HIV/AIDS (H.R.5142, 1988).

SUPPORTED MEASURE REQUIRING PHYSICIANS and counselors to notify spouses of HIV infected individuals (H.R. 5142, 1988) .

SAT OUT historic votes on Hate Crime Statistics Act (H.R. 3192) and Fair Housing Amendments Act (H.R. 1158).

PLAYED INTO GAY BAITING by overreacting to rumors about his sexual orientation stemming from a 1967 New York Times article by Drew Pearson exposing a "homosexual ring" in California Governor Ronald Reagan's administration. "Rep. Jack Kemp's political handlers, in a state of shock since he was asked last week on NBC's "Today" whether he had ever had a homosexual experience, will screen future interviews and bar any that go into the old slanders against him." March 17, 1986 - San Diego Union - Tribune
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 09:56:13 PM
In other words, he pisses off The Task Force <gasp> 

:wub: Jack Kemp
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 09:57:06 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 07:20:21 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 12, 2009, 07:13:05 PM
Will no-one respect the Anglican Communion :weep:
You can't respect someone who doesn't respect themself.

QFT.  My church split away eons ago :)
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 12, 2009, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 09:56:13 PM
In other words, he pisses off The Task Force <gasp> 

:wub: Jack Kemp

I think several of his stances are reprehensible but understandable given the ignorance that was apparently swirling about at that time.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 13, 2009, 01:53:38 AM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:32:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 06:27:03 PM
Quote from: Neil on August 12, 2009, 06:19:53 PM
Yeah, but you hate him because he's a Catholic.

:huh:

Link please.
Anglicans are the same as Catholics.

:D
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Martinus on August 13, 2009, 01:57:14 AM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 10:38:15 PM
Quote from: derspiess on August 12, 2009, 09:56:13 PM
In other words, he pisses off The Task Force <gasp> 

:wub: Jack Kemp

I think several of his stances are reprehensible but understandable given the ignorance that was apparently swirling about at that time.

Well it sounds to me like the guy did go an extra mile.

I mean, if you accuse Reagan of being controlled by a gay cabal, you really ARE out there.

He is the equivalent of Strom Thurmond. Are you also as tolerant about his "reprehensible but understandable" stances?
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 13, 2009, 02:12:06 AM
Sure. After all, one can understand but not tolerate, which is what I do in the case of Kemp.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 13, 2009, 12:01:03 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 12, 2009, 05:52:46 PM
Oh and BURN IN HELL JACK KEMP.
Remind me why you hate Jack Kemp so much?

Jealousy over all the times he got grabbed the asses of his offensive linemen, I would guess.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: The Minsky Moment on August 13, 2009, 12:06:18 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 12, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
Quote from: Caliga on August 12, 2009, 08:00:43 PM
Remind me why you hate Jack Kemp so much?  I mean, I think I can probably guess, but...  ;)

http://www.thetaskforce.org/press/releases/pr188_081096

QuoteSUPPORTED REP. DANNEMEYER'S attempts to pass legislation that mandated the reporting of names of individuals who tested positive for HIV/AIDS (H.R.5142, 1988).

I had forgotten about Dannemeyer.  Easily the biggest nutbag in Congress during his day, notwithstanding the very stiff competition for that honor.  His antics were what first brought gay rights to my attention as a political issue.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 13, 2009, 12:12:22 PM
Quote from: Martinus on August 13, 2009, 01:57:14 AM
I mean, if you accuse Reagan of being controlled by a gay cabal, you really ARE out there.

QuotePLAYED INTO GAY BAITING by overreacting to rumors about his sexual orientation stemming from a 1967 New York Times article by Drew Pearson exposing a "homosexual ring" in California Governor Ronald Reagan's administration. "Rep. Jack Kemp's political handlers, in a state of shock since he was asked last week on NBC's "Today" whether he had ever had a homosexual experience, will screen future interviews and bar any that go into the old slanders against him." March 17, 1986 - San Diego Union - Tribune

Sounds more like he reacted negatively to rumors he was part of such a cabal.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 13, 2009, 12:58:35 PM
Yes, because having an homosexual experience makes you part of a cabal. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: Eddie Teach on August 13, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: garbon on August 13, 2009, 12:58:35 PM
Yes, because having an homosexual experience makes you part of a cabal. :rolleyes:

Well, at any rate it doesn't sound like Kemp was the one making that particular claim.
Title: Re: Activists, actors, athletics honored by Obama
Post by: garbon on August 13, 2009, 03:12:29 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 13, 2009, 02:28:56 PM
Well, at any rate it doesn't sound like Kemp was the one making that particular claim.

Agreed.