AMPAS has created quite a monster with it's 10 :rolleyes: slots for Best Picture consideration. Take a look with me at some of the hopefuls for 2009:
Shutter Island/Scorsese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdumGs1qoXM
Leonardo DiCaprio, Ben Kingsley, Mark Ruffalo, Max Von Sydow, Michelle Phillips
I hate Lehane crap, but this is Marty.
Agora/Amenabar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50zEun07b4
Rachel Weisz (not a fan)
Alexandria.
Precious/Daniels
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx-3jYJkUWQ
Gabourey Sidibe, Mo'Nique, Mariah Carey
Big early word on this one from the film festivals, consider it a serious contender for a nomination, and get ready for Oscar nominee Mo'Nique (as the abusive Mother.)
The Road/Hillcoat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLgszfXTAY
Viggo Mortensen, Charlize Theron, Robert Duvall
Author Cormac McCarthy's post-apocalyptic road show would not normally be Oscar bait, but Esquire magazine has given it a huge rave. 10 slots.
Nine/Marshall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_5_lzags3I
Legend Daniel Day Lewis, Legend Nicole Kidman, Marion Cotillard, Penelope Cruz, Judy Dench, Goldie Hawn's daughter, Fergie :lol:, and Miss Sophia Loren.
I hate musicals, but Legend Day Lewis and Legend Kidman will get me front seat, opening night for this one.
Invictus /Eastwood
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Morgan Freeman, Matt Damon
Eastwood looks at Mandela.
The Lovely Bones/Jackson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js3U2RwmPTs
Mark Walhberg, Rachel Weisz, Briony, Susan Sarandon, and Stanley Tucci
Peter Jackson adapts some beloved novel.
end part I
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And I made nice You tube links to the trailers for you all.
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Oh, you tubes don't need [img]!
I hadn't seen a few of those trailers yet. I like the looks of Shutter Island and Lovely Bones. (It was a very good novel actually.)
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
The Road/Hillcoat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLgszfXTAY
Viggo Mortensen, Charlize Theron, Robert Duvall
Author Cormac McCarthy's post-apocalyptic road show would not normally be Oscar bait, but Esquire magazine has given it a huge rave. 10 slots.
Holy Crap that looks AWESOME!
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
The Road/Hillcoat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLgszfXTAY
Viggo Mortensen, Charlize Theron, Robert Duvall
Author Cormac McCarthy's post-apocalyptic road show would not normally be Oscar bait, but Esquire magazine has given it a huge rave. 10 slots.
Holy Crap that looks AWESOME!
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned good.
Quote from: Syt on August 06, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned good.
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Quote from: Syt on August 06, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned good.
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Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
Agora/Amenabar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50zEun07b4
Rachel Weisz (not a fan)
Alexandria.
A movie about Hypatia? This is going to be terrible, right?
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
I agree, but supposedly the trailers are not representative of the actual movie. The article I read claimed that none of the apocalypse scenes in the trailer are in the movie :unsure:
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 10:23:59 PMHoly Crap that looks AWESOME!
I have extremely high hopes for it, which means it will probably crash and burn. -_-
I'm still waiting for someone to make
A Canticle for Leibowitz into a movie. :(
Quote from: Maladict on August 07, 2009, 01:57:42 AMA movie about Hypatia? This is going to be terrible, right?
Wait, do you mean Hypatia Lee? :perv:
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 06, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned good.
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Somebody is stealing my shtick.
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2009, 07:41:09 AM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 11:00:57 PM
Quote from: Syt on August 06, 2009, 10:54:40 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on August 06, 2009, 10:29:55 PM
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned awful.
Having read the book, so far the trailers have made it look pretty damned good.
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Somebody is stealing my shtick.
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Quote from: FunkMonk on August 07, 2009, 07:44:38 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2009, 07:41:09 AM
Somebody is stealing my shtick.
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Tim Burton's latest movie looks amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoJecu9e7c
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
Nine/Marshall
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_5_lzags3I
Legend Daniel Day Lewis, Legend Nicole Kidman, Marion Cotillard, Penelope Cruz, Judy Dench, Goldie Hawn's daughter, Fergie :lol:, and Miss Sophia Loren.
I hate musicals, but Legend Day Lewis and Legend Kidman will get me front seat, opening night for this one.
Sweet fucking Jesus. Lewis, Kidman and Dench? That's a frontal assault on the Academy.
MB: I saw an opening and I took it. I am a man of risk and daring. :bowler:
Quote from: Ed Anger on August 07, 2009, 07:41:09 AM
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Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 07:48:06 AM
Tim Burton's latest movie looks amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoJecu9e7c
You do know he is not the director of that film right? He is just the producer so it really is not a Tim Burton movie.
Quote from: FunkMonk on August 07, 2009, 08:20:06 AM
MB: I saw an opening and I took it. I am a man of risk and daring. :bowler:
I don't mind. :)
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
Legend Nicole Kidman
The only thing legendary about Nicole Kidman is how any picture she is associated with is a sure thing failure at the box office. A botox injected, wooden, stunned actress who is guaranteed poison for a film's success.
Quote from: PRC on August 07, 2009, 08:46:15 AM
The only thing legendary about Nicole Kidman is how any picture she is associated with is a sure thing failure at the box office. A botox injected, wooden, stunned actress who is guaranteed poison for a film's success.
Well she is just doing voice acting here so her botox effect will be minimized.
:huh: I always thought she was a great actress... though I haven't seen her in anything in a while.
Quote from: Caliga on August 07, 2009, 09:03:13 AM
:huh: I always thought she was a great actress... though I haven't seen her in anything in a while.
11/26/08 Australia Fox $49,554,002 2,721 $14,800,723 2,642
12/7/07 The Golden Compass NL $70,107,728 3,528 $25,783,232 3,528
11/16/07 Margot at the Wedding ParV $1,959,420 121 $81,035 2
8/17/07 The Invasion WB $15,074,191 2,776 $5,951,409 2,776
5/23/07 I Have Never Forgotten You: The Life & Legacy of Simon Wiesenthal
(Narrator) LVR $29,976 9 $5,075 4
11/17/06 Happy Feet
(Voice) WB $198,000,317 3,804 $41,533,432 3,804
11/10/06 Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus PicH $223,202 39 $28,815 4
6/24/05 Bewitched Sony $63,313,159 3,188 $20,131,130 3,174
4/22/05 The Interpreter Uni. $72,708,161 2,814 $22,822,455 2,758
10/29/04 Birth NL $5,095,038 550 $1,705,577 550
6/11/04 The Stepford Wives Par. $59,484,742 3,057 $21,406,781 3,057
3/26/04 Dogville Lions $1,535,286 70 $88,855 9
12/25/03 Cold Mountain Mira. $95,636,509 2,802 $14,574,213 2,163
10/31/03 The Human Stain Mira. $5,381,908 388 $1,034,195 160
12/27/02 The Hours Par. $41,675,994 1,010 $338,622 11
2/1/02 Birthday Girl Mira. $5,142,576 1,000 $2,370,809 1,000
8/10/01 The Others Mira. $96,522,687 2,843 $14,089,952 1,678
5/18/01 Moulin Rouge! Fox $57,386,607 2,283 $167,540 2
7/16/99 Eyes Wide Shut WB $55,691,208 2,483 $21,706,163 2,411
10/16/98 Practical Magic WB $46,683,377 2,652 $13,104,694 2,652
9/26/97 The Peacemaker DW $41,263,140 2,420 $12,311,939 2,362
12/27/96 The Portrait of a Lady Gram. $3,692,836 570 $107,819 7
9/29/95 To Die For Sony $21,284,514 954 $386,510 11
6/16/95 Batman Forever WB $184,031,112 2,893 $52,784,433 2,842
11/12/93 My Life Col. $27,804,899 1,290 $5,536,098 800
10/1/93 Malice Col. $46,405,336 1,519 $9,232,650 1,431
11/6/92 Flirting Gold. $2,415,396 33 $10,125 1
5/22/92 Far and Away Uni. $58,883,840 1,885 $10,194,520 1,583
11/1/91 Billy Bathgate BV $15,565,363 1,177 $4,051,590 912
6/29/90 Days of Thunder Par. $82,670,733 2,307 $15,490,445 2,307
4/7/89 Dead Calm WB $7,825,009 959 $2,463,551 959
6/5/87 Windrider MGM $19,367 26 n/a
Seeems a respectable showing
Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 08:28:19 AM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 07, 2009, 07:48:06 AM
Tim Burton's latest movie looks amazing!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnoJecu9e7c
You do know he is not the director of that film right? He is just the producer so it really is not a Tim Burton movie.
It wouldn't be the first time Tim Burton is credited with a movie he just produced, just like "Nightmare before Christmas".
Quote from: The Larch on August 07, 2009, 09:59:48 AM
It wouldn't be the first time Tim Burton is credited with a movie he just produced, just like "Nightmare before Christmas".
Well the difference is he at least wrote the Nightmare before Christmas.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on August 07, 2009, 09:07:58 AM
11/26/08 Australia Fox $49,554,002 2,721 $14,800,723 2,642
12/7/07 The Golden Compass NL $70,107,728 3,528 $25,783,232 3,528
11/16/07 Margot at the Wedding ParV $1,959,420 121 $81,035 2
8/17/07 The Invasion WB $15,074,191 2,776 $5,951,409 2,776
5/23/07 I Have Never Forgotten You: The Life & Legacy of Simon Wiesenthal
(Narrator) LVR $29,976 9 $5,075 4
11/17/06 Happy Feet
(Voice) WB $198,000,317 3,804 $41,533,432 3,804
11/10/06 Fur: An Imaginary Portrait of Diane Arbus PicH $223,202 39 $28,815 4
6/24/05 Bewitched Sony $63,313,159 3,188 $20,131,130 3,174
4/22/05 The Interpreter Uni. $72,708,161 2,814 $22,822,455 2,758
10/29/04 Birth NL $5,095,038 550 $1,705,577 550
6/11/04 The Stepford Wives Par. $59,484,742 3,057 $21,406,781 3,057
3/26/04 Dogville Lions $1,535,286 70 $88,855 9
12/25/03 Cold Mountain Mira. $95,636,509 2,802 $14,574,213 2,163
10/31/03 The Human Stain Mira. $5,381,908 388 $1,034,195 160
12/27/02 The Hours Par. $41,675,994 1,010 $338,622 11
2/1/02 Birthday Girl Mira. $5,142,576 1,000 $2,370,809 1,000
8/10/01 The Others Mira. $96,522,687 2,843 $14,089,952 1,678
5/18/01 Moulin Rouge! Fox $57,386,607 2,283 $167,540 2
7/16/99 Eyes Wide Shut WB $55,691,208 2,483 $21,706,163 2,411
10/16/98 Practical Magic WB $46,683,377 2,652 $13,104,694 2,652
9/26/97 The Peacemaker DW $41,263,140 2,420 $12,311,939 2,362
12/27/96 The Portrait of a Lady Gram. $3,692,836 570 $107,819 7
9/29/95 To Die For Sony $21,284,514 954 $386,510 11
6/16/95 Batman Forever WB $184,031,112 2,893 $52,784,433 2,842
11/12/93 My Life Col. $27,804,899 1,290 $5,536,098 800
10/1/93 Malice Col. $46,405,336 1,519 $9,232,650 1,431
11/6/92 Flirting Gold. $2,415,396 33 $10,125 1
5/22/92 Far and Away Uni. $58,883,840 1,885 $10,194,520 1,583
11/1/91 Billy Bathgate BV $15,565,363 1,177 $4,051,590 912
6/29/90 Days of Thunder Par. $82,670,733 2,307 $15,490,445 2,307
4/7/89 Dead Calm WB $7,825,009 959 $2,463,551 959
6/5/87 Windrider MGM $19,367 26 n/a
Seeems a respectable showing
You need to add what it cost to make those movies.
For instance the top four from your list:
The Golden Compass
Cost to make: $205,000,000
Gross: $70,107,728
Net Loss Percentage: 34.2%
Net Loss: $134,892,272
Australia
Cost to make: $130,000,000
Gross: $49,554,002
Net Loss Percentage: 38.1%
Net Loss: $80,445,998
Margot at the Wedding
Cost to make: $10,000,000
Gross: $2,012,086
Net Loss Percentage: 20.1%
Net Loss: $7,987,913
The Invasion
Cost to make: $65,000,000
Gross: $15,055,795
Net Loss Percentage: 23.2%
Net Loss: $49,944,20
Habs, have you seen Séraphine? Yolande Moreau should be a early contender for the best actress HABSY.
Quote from: Maladict on August 07, 2009, 01:57:42 AM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
Agora/Amenabar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u50zEun07b4
Rachel Weisz (not a fan)
Alexandria.
A movie about Hypatia? This is going to be terrible, right?
I know, and Rachel Weisz. Cannes reception was very mixed, but it should score in techs.
As for Legend Kidman, she (like many other actresses) may have her share of clunkers, but her great work is GREAT:
Birth
The Others
To Die For
Margot at the Wedding
Dogville
The Hours
Moulin Rouge!
Portrait of the Lady
:yes:
and I thought her very good in:
The Human Stain
Fur
Bottom line: Kidman is a financial double threat. She can make a studio fat profits was one film, and then turn right around and give them the tax writeoff they desperately need with the next film. You can't ask for better.
Quote from: PRC on August 07, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
For instance the top four from your list:
Your stats seem to be US only. Australia made 160 million abroad, Golden Compass 300 million
QuoteThe Golden Compass
Cost to make: $205,000,000
Gross: $70,107,728
Net Loss Percentage: 34.2%
Net Loss: $134,892,272
Wait so they made a film that had to gross 410 million just to be considered a success? That seems rather idiotic to me.
Quote from: Valmy on August 07, 2009, 10:50:50 AM
Wait so they made a film that had to gross 410 million just to be considered a success? That seems rather idiotic to me.
The gross numbers matched the original list in this thread.. then I got the numbers from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._and_Canadian_box_office_bombs
$372 million
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=goldencompass.htm
$211 million
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=australia.htm
Quote from: jimmy olsen on August 06, 2009, 10:23:59 PM
Quote from: Habsburg on August 06, 2009, 09:21:54 PM
The Road/Hillcoat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbLgszfXTAY
Viggo Mortensen, Charlize Theron, Robert Duvall
Author Cormac McCarthy's post-apocalyptic road show would not normally be Oscar bait, but Esquire magazine has given it a huge rave. 10 slots.
Holy Crap that looks AWESOME!
Looks like Fallout 3. But in color.
It seems foolhardy to put $100 million on a star-driven vehicle in general, that's why you have people like Elijah Wood, Toby Maguire and Shia LaBeouf starring in mega-smashes. People are going because they're interested in the content, not in the stars. Golden Compass didn't "tank" because of Nicole Kidman, US moviegoers just were unfamiliar or uninterested in the film.
Overall, she's made some bad choices, but she does have some drawing power or her films wouldn't be averaging close to 50 million.
Quote from: PRC on August 07, 2009, 10:30:52 AM
For instance the top four from your list:
The Golden Compass
Cost to make: $205,000,000
Gross: $70,107,728
Net Loss Percentage: 34.2%
Net Loss: $134,892,272
Australia
Cost to make: $130,000,000
Gross: $49,554,002
Net Loss Percentage: 38.1%
Net Loss: $80,445,998
Margot at the Wedding
Cost to make: $10,000,000
Gross: $2,012,086
Net Loss Percentage: 20.1%
Net Loss: $7,987,913
The Invasion
Cost to make: $65,000,000
Gross: $15,055,795
Net Loss Percentage: 23.2%
Net Loss: $49,944,20
To be fair....Most of those movies though have had pretty big DVD sales. And her Pre Tom Cruise Beard/Wife phase was much more profitable.
I blame Tom Cruise for the sad state of La Kidman.