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I just saw a video about Dune 1. One of the best games ever.
And they're making a new movie.
So lets have a Dune thread!

Merged all the games into one and the movies and TV into one.

What's the order in which you experienced the series?

My option is not in the polls.  :(

Live Action -> Games -> Book.

Quote from: The Larch on February 22, 2019, 02:54:26 PM
My option is not in the polls.  :(

Live Action -> Games -> Book.

Knew I'd make a mistake. Doh

I played Dune first. Then Dune 2. Then I saw the Lynch Film. Then I read the book. Then I saw the 2000 Sci Fi miniseries.

- Dune 2 when it came out in '92
- Most of the original books (maybe all, can't remember) in the mid 90s
- The movie around 2000 or so

Nothing else since then.

Re-read the first book a couple of years ago, still enjoyed it but not as much.

I got the book in my early teens. I was beginning to discover sci-fi at the time, and I got Dune out of reputation, but it was probably still a tough ask at my age and I disliked it, wasn't able to finish it. Shortly afterwards I got addicted to the first videogame - which I used to replay over and over after computer science class (my home computer wasn't able to run it), but that didn't prompt me to go back to the book. Then in my early 20s, when I was at film school, I watched the Lynch movie and that made me finally go back and finish the book - which by then I was able to fully appreciate.

This poll has more options than we do posters.  :D

Quote from: Tyr on February 22, 2019, 02:55:28 PM

Quote from: The Larch on February 22, 2019, 02:54:26 PM
My option is not in the polls.  :(

Live Action -> Games -> Book.

Knew I'd make a mistake. Doh

Too many options with repeated terms.  :P There are two sets of "Book -> Live Action -> Games".

I have sadly never read any of the Dune novels but they've been high on my list for years.  So Live action -> games.

Movie (Judas Booth "Director's Cut") -> Movie (Lynch Theatrical Release) -> Book

So it got better every step of the way for me.   :)

First book, about four times in a row - David Lynch video release - Second book, two times - Avalon Hill boardgame. Never played it as a computer game, and never read beyond the second book.

Movie - Dune 2 video game - Dune 1 video game - Book - Sci-fi Miniseries

What we know so far about the cast of Dune 2020:
Rebecca Ferguson - Lady Jessica Atreides
Timothee Chalamet - Paul Atreides
Oscar Isaac - Duke Leto Atreides
Stellan Skarsgard - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
Josh Brolin - Gurney Halleck
Jason Momoa - Duncan Idaho
Javier Bardem - Stilgar
Charlotte Rampling - Reverend Mother Mohiam
Zendaya - Chani

Jason Momoa as Duncan Idaho? That is...not really what I had pictured  :P

Book first - my mother's copy; I starting reading a number of the books from her bookshelf when I was aged 9 or 10.

Then the David Lynch film, which I saw at a friend's birthday party; looking back it does seem surprising that the parents would consider it suitable for showing to nearly a dozen kids even 30 odd years ago. But then again, another year I can recall they found the fourth "Planet of the Apes" movie to be suitable fare for their kid's party...* :hmm:

Since I went to a different school to all of them at 11 this has to have been back in 1985 or, more likely 1986.

I've never played any of the games, and I don't believe I've ever watched the miniseries' all the way through.

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*I believe everyone cheered the apes during the uprising IIRC.

The books and then the movie

Quote from: Delirium on February 22, 2019, 03:31:42 PM
First book, about four times in a row - David Lynch video release - Second book, two times - Avalon Hill boardgame. Never played it as a computer game, and never read beyond the second book.

Yeah, I'd even forgotten there were computer games--I was familiar with the old AH boardgame.  I may still have a copy.

Pretty sure I saw the Lynch movie, which caused me to go to the books.  I think I read the series twice, and both times I stopped mid-way through God Emperor.

Didn't have a PC in the early 90s, so never played the game (though I was aware of it and wished I could).

I saw the mini series at some point and was underwhelmed.

Read the original book, went "meh" and didn't read any of the others. Then several decades later I played the board game. So books -> games for me.

I played the Dune 2 game without knowing anything about the books or the universe.  Absolutely loved it.  My first real-time-strategy game ever, and one of my most memorable gaming experiences.  Then I watched the live-action movie.  It was ok.  Then I tried the book.  Could not get past the first 50 pages or so.

One of the things that bothered me was, there were three factions in the game.  Red (bad guys), blue (good guys) and green.  I played green.  Then I watched the movie and read a part of the book.  Green wasn't even there  :lol:

I read the books years ago, I think about thirty years ago.  Absolutely loved the books! Then I got at least one computer game of it, not sure if there were more games. Never played a live action game which I assume is an on line game?

I believe live action refers to movie and/or miniseries

Quote from: Monoriu on February 22, 2019, 06:43:55 PM
One of the things that bothered me was, there were three factions in the game.  Red (bad guys), blue (good guys) and green.  I played green.  Then I watched the movie and read a part of the book.  Green wasn't even there  :lol:

I'm shocked, SHOCKED, you would play House Ordos.  :D

Ah, ok. I've seen the 1984 movie, looking forward to the new movie now.  :)

Denis Villeneuve is apparently doing a two movie project in production now. 

Books, then Lynch movie, then TV miniseries.  Never saw any LARP for Dune.

I first read about Dune in 1978 in a British magazine called Starburst which had a short article about Jodorowskys attempt to make it with a Gieger illustration of something Harkonnen and a Foss Illustartion of 'Duke Leto's groundcar". I was eight and had no idea what any of this about, but cool pictures.

I had a nasty bout of what the British called 'glandular fever' (Mononucleosis) in 1982 which kept me in bed for about six weeks. In order to prevent me from attempting to move around my parents would give me science fiction novels because they knew I would be completely absorbed by them. They gave me Dune and I loved it , read the first three books sick in bed aged 12.

Delightful and loving people that they are they bought my brothers and I a copy of the Avalon Hill board game for Christmas. Great game!

The Lynch movie came next in 84.

I have yet to play any of the computer games. I disliked the miniseries. I eagerly anticipate the Villeneuve movies.

Quote from: Monoriu on February 22, 2019, 06:43:55 PM
One of the things that bothered me was, there were three factions in the game.  Red (bad guys), blue (good guys) and green.  I played green.  Then I watched the movie and read a part of the book.  Green wasn't even there  :lol:

The Ordos were mentioned in the Dune Encyclopedia, so they were not entirely made up by Westwood. And yes Dune 2 is one of the best games of all time, it started the 1990s RTS craze.

Though even at the time I thought it was weird how Dune 2 was in an entirely different genre from Dune 1. Besides both using the same source material the games are completely unrelated, even being made by different studios.

Quote from: Oexmelin on February 22, 2019, 09:16:34 PM
I believe live action refers to movie and/or miniseries

Huh, I was surprised at how many languishites were into Dune LARP.

I can't remember me no goddamn Oros from the book.  That's volume 1?

Quote from: citizen k on February 22, 2019, 04:18:23 PM
What we know so far about the cast of Dune 2020:
Rebecca Ferguson - Lady Jessica Atreides
Timothee Chalamet - Paul Atreides
Oscar Isaac - Duke Leto Atreides
Stellan Skarsgard - Baron Vladimir Harkonnen
Josh Brolin - Gurney Halleck
Jason Momoa - Duncan Idaho
Javier Bardem - Stilgar
Charlotte Rampling - Reverend Mother Mohiam
Zendaya - Chani

That looks quite promising...

Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 23, 2019, 03:20:58 AM
I can't remember me no goddamn Oros from the book.  That's volume 1?

No. It was a house briefly named in supplemental material published in 1984, and that Westwood used to flesh out their Mono-like faction. They are not in any novels.

1. Dune 2
2. Dune 2000
3. miniseries
4. Book
5. Lynch movie ( :x )

I think I am going to go read Dune. Again.

It is truly one of the greatest science fiction single books of all time.

I hope they can do it credit. I don't think it is impossible, by any means.

A friend in high school lent me the book.  It was paperback printed in the 1980's.  The blurb said that it would soon be made into a major motion picture, which I got confused because didn't know the film had been made over a decade previous.  Wasn't that impressed with the book and was even less impressed with the film.

Quote from: Berkut on February 23, 2019, 12:54:59 PM
I think I am going to go read Dune. Again.

It is truly one of the greatest science fiction single books of all time.

I hope they can do it credit. I don't think it is impossible, by any means.

I think I read it in like two days. Agreed it was fantastic.

I liked the lynch movie.
I think it works better if you haven't read the book first.

For me it was
Dune 1 (on the best game ever list)
Movie
Book
Duke 2000
Mini series

I read the first three books and then stopped. Heard it kinda crapped out after that.

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on March 01, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
I read the first three books and then stopped. Heard it kinda crapped out after that.

I thought God Emperor was god awful and a slog to get through, but the next book - Heretics, was very good. 

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2019, 12:09:36 PM

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on March 01, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
I read the first three books and then stopped. Heard it kinda crapped out after that.

I thought God Emperor was god awful and a slog to get through, but the next book - Heretics, was very good.

Conversely I thought that God Emperor was the second best one after Dune itself and found Heretics and beyond to be poor.

Quote from: Agelastus on March 01, 2019, 01:07:16 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 01, 2019, 12:09:36 PM

Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on March 01, 2019, 04:17:58 AM
I read the first three books and then stopped. Heard it kinda crapped out after that.

:)
I thought God Emperor was god awful and a slog to get through, but the next book - Heretics, was very good.

Conversely I thought that God Emperor was the second best one after Dune itself and found Heretics and beyond to be poor.

Put our two views together and someone who has read neither has good reason to read both.

Quote from: Tyr on February 22, 2019, 02:52:04 PM
I just saw a video about Dune 1. One of the best games ever.
And they're making a new movie.
So lets have a Dune thread!

Merged all the games into one and the movies and TV into one.

What's the order in which you experienced the series?

Dune (movie) - Dune 1 - Dune 2 - Dune (mini series) - Dune 2000.

Dune 2 was pretty amazing wasn't it? Though I the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missile hit you was uncomfortably high.

Quote from: Valmy on March 05, 2019, 12:46:50 PM
Dune 2 was pretty amazing wasn't it? Though I the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missile hit you was uncomfortably high.

I am intrigued as to what the missing verb might be.

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 05, 2019, 12:48:33 PM

Quote from: Valmy on March 05, 2019, 12:46:50 PM
Dune 2 was pretty amazing wasn't it? Though I the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missile hit you was uncomfortably high.

I am intrigued as to what the missing verb might be.

"admit"

"I admit the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missle hit you was uncomfortably high"

Quote from: Valmy on March 05, 2019, 12:49:14 PM

Quote from: crazy canuck on March 05, 2019, 12:48:33 PM

Quote from: Valmy on March 05, 2019, 12:46:50 PM
Dune 2 was pretty amazing wasn't it? Though I the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missile hit you was uncomfortably high.

I am intrigued as to what the missing verb might be.

"admit"

"I admit the temptation to Tim every-time the Harkonnen death missle hit you was uncomfortably high"

I was thinking about the verb of what you were tempted to do to Tim every time a Harkonnen missile hit.  Granted it is not his fault, but that should not stop you.

Dune 2 was totally awesome.

I started reading Dune last night on my flight to Chicago and so far I agree that it's an excellent book. :yes:

Never made past Children of Dune. I've attempted a few times, but always stopped when Leto II finds Jacurutu, overdose in spice, then let himself be covered in magical sandtrouts.

To me, the charm of Dune was about the politics and events of the space opera with the Emperor, Paul and Shani, Jessica and the Bene Gesserit, The Baron and the Harkonnen stooges, the fremen, etc., around Arrakis as the most valuable planet in the known universe. While Dune Messiah still fits that mold to a certain point what happens after is, well, kinda non-sensical.

Quote from: Drakken on March 09, 2019, 01:21:21 AM
Never made past Children of Dune. I've attempted a few times, but always stopped when Leto II finds Jacurutu, overdose in spice, then let himself be covered in magical sandtrouts.

To me, the charm of Dune was about the politics and events of the space opera with the Emperor, Paul and Shani, Jessica and the Bene Gesserit, The Baron and the Harkonnen stooges, the fremen, etc., around Arrakis as the most valuable planet in the known universe. While Dune Messiah still fits that mold to a certain point what happens after is, well, kinda non-sensical.

The original book was built around the idea that it was the Fremen, not the spice, that made Dune such a significant planet.  Herbert forgot that in the later books.

There was a theory going around when Dune was written that Herbert did not, in fact, write it.  It was such a radical departure from anything he wrote before or after that the theory had some legs.  Nothing ever came of it, so it likely was just one of those theories, but I still wonder about that when I reread Dune and remember all of the bad books Herbert wrote.

I keep fizzling out trying to watch or read the second book.

In other threads, after I finished reading the original Dune I declared it the best science fiction novel I'd ever read, by far (I've read probably 200+).

I am now finishing Children of Dune and I really enjoy it, but it's not as good as the original, and Messiah wasn't even close, but I appreciated what Herbert was trying to do with it.

I am totally stoked for the movie, too, but I watched the latest trailer for it and they pronounce Harkonnen as 'HARK-a-ninn'.  I always thought it was 'har-KONN-inn'.  Was it the latter in the Lynch movie?  Why did I think that? :hmm:

It was har-KONE-en in Dune 2.

Quote from: The Brain on September 17, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
It was har-KONE-en in Dune 2.

I played it but don't remember much about it... :hmm:

Just asked a Finn, in Finnish the emphasis is always on the first syllable, though he said the Finnish equivalient name would be Härkönen (only two ns).

Quote from: Caliga on September 17, 2021, 02:41:57 PM
I am totally stoked for the movie, too, but I watched the latest trailer for it and they pronounce Harkonnen as 'HARK-a-ninn'.  I always thought it was 'har-KONN-inn'.  Was it the latter in the Lynch movie?  Why did I think that? :hmm:

I'm sure in the Lynch movie (and pretty sure in the mini-series) the emphasis was on the second syllable.

Wiki at least allows both versions:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Harkonnen

(/ˈhɑːrkoʊnən/[2] or /hɑːrˈkoʊnən/), their reference for stress on first syllable is a reading by Frank Herbert: http://usul.net/books/sounds.htm

Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2021, 02:47:45 PM
Just asked a Finn, in Finnish the emphasis is always on the first syllable, though he said the Finnish equivalient name would be Härkönen (only two ns).

I did assume the name was derived from Finnish, but I don't know to speak Finnish, so that's no help. :)

I also assumed Atreides came from Greek, and in fact Children of Dune confirms that, as I found out recently while reading it.

Quote from: Caliga on September 17, 2021, 02:45:32 PM

Quote from: The Brain on September 17, 2021, 02:44:00 PM
It was har-KONE-en in Dune 2.

I played it but don't remember much about it... :hmm:

"The noble Atreides. The insidious Ordos. And the EVIL Harkonnen."

Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2021, 02:51:17 PM
(/ˈhɑːrkoʊnən/[2] or /hɑːrˈkoʊnən/), their reference for stress on first syllable is a reading by Frank Herbert: http://usul.net/books/sounds.htm

Ok well I'll take Frank Herbert's word for it.  He would know. :sleep:

Also he pronounces Chani's name like Dick Cheney.  I thought it was 'CHAHN-ee'.  I like my way better.

Yeah, Chani's pronunciation was a surprise. :D

Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2021, 03:04:39 PM
Yeah, Chani's pronunciation was a surprise. :D

I'm guessing all of my pronunciations come from the Lynch movie since that was my first exposure to the Dune universe.

Quote from: Caliga on September 17, 2021, 03:07:43 PM

Quote from: Syt on September 17, 2021, 03:04:39 PM
Yeah, Chani's pronunciation was a surprise. :D

I'm guessing all of my pronunciations come from the Lynch movie since that was my first exposure to the Dune universe.

It's Duniverse, n00b.

Relax.

Frankie Herbert says relax?

Don't do it

Read the book as a young teenager. Saw the Lynch movie some years later. Played the game some years after that.

Quote from: HVC on September 17, 2021, 03:43:56 PM
Frankie Herbert says relax?

^_^

Just came back from the theater. I liked it.

Despite being a fan of Lynch's clusterfuck, I liked especially that it feels distinct, its own thing. They not only changed aesthetics and cast, they also used different stuff from the book to create a different flow.

Volume was a tad too loud though.  :P

Watched the Villeneuve version in the movie theatre yesterday. I thought it was a spectacular achievement, I loved it unreservedly. The score was a bit...extra, as the young folk say, a bit overwhelming at first, but it made sense as the movie progressed. I read the book again recently, knowing that the new movie was coming. I had loved the book on my first encounter at 13 , a year before the Lynch version arrived in theatres in the UK. reading the book at 51 was much more rewarding than reading it at 13. I have no plans to read the others though, I got as far as God Emperor in my teens.

Villeneuves version does a great job of bringing the themes, characters and locations to the screen. It does owe some things to the Lynch version, some of the design, but succeeds wildly beyond the Lynch one, although I do have a special fondness for the smoldering train wreck that Lynch made.

Good reviews all round it seems, some griping and a smattering of maoist identitarian nonsense about white savior and cultural appropriation, thus is the spirit of the age for some miserablists.

5 out of a possible 5 fromtia points.

I thought the score was pretty unremarkable.

Nothing gripped me as Eno's Prophecy or Toto's Trip to Arrakis did back in the day.

Quote from: fromtia on November 08, 2021, 04:13:03 PM
Watched the Villeneuve version in the movie theatre yesterday. I thought it was a spectacular achievement, I loved it unreservedly. The score was a bit...extra, as the young folk say, a bit overwhelming at first, but it made sense as the movie progressed. I read the book again recently, knowing that the new movie was coming. I had loved the book on my first encounter at 13 , a year before the Lynch version arrived in theatres in the UK. reading the book at 51 was much more rewarding than reading it at 13. I have no plans to read the others though, I got as far as God Emperor in my teens.

Villeneuves version does a great job of bringing the themes, characters and locations to the screen. It does owe some things to the Lynch version, some of the design, but succeeds wildly beyond the Lynch one, although I do have a special fondness for the smoldering train wreck that Lynch made.

Good reviews all round it seems, some griping and a smattering of maoist identitarian nonsense about white savior and cultural appropriation, thus is the spirit of the age for some miserablists.

5 out of a possible 5 fromtia points.

Formtia, good to hear from you and your excellent review has convinced me to watch it.

Quote from: Iormlund on November 08, 2021, 05:49:25 PM
I thought the score was pretty unremarkable.

Nothing gripped me as Eno's Prophecy or Toto's Trip to Arrakis did back in the day.

There are many adjectives that come to my mind to describe the modern Dune's soundtrack, unremarkable would never be one of them.

[some minor spoilers but meaningless unless you already know the story]

I finally saw it.  Villeneuve has a real talent for creating a visual gestalt that is uncanny but internally coherent.  I won't go so far as to say is he created THE Dune or Hebert's Dune but it's A Dune and its compelling and believable and immersive.  And he understands how to use the medium to tell the story - one of the many areas Lynch stumbled badly.  The Salusa Secundus scene although contrary to book canon (no outsiders allowed) tells you everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without a word of exposition.  Some niggling issues including some bad displays of water discipline (we've learned IRL how tricky mask usage can be . . .) but the only thing that bothered me were the ending scenes. It does end on a note of triumphalism which I think does play into the anachronistic "woke" critiques.  The funeral scene from the book does not occur here - perhaps it is being saved for the next part, but room should have been found to put it at the end of this part.  Paul's appeal to the Fremen is not that he is an effective fighter - that is a necessary but far from sufficient condition.  It is his spiritual authority - and that should have been the closing note.

Watched Dune over the weekend and I loved it.  Even my wife liked it and she hates a) science fiction generally, and b) violent movies.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
The Geidi Prime scene although contrary to book canon (no outsiders allowed) tells you everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without a word of exposition.

I've not seen the film but this line reads as if the scene should be on Salusa Secundus, the Sardaukar "home planet"?

[spoiler]I can't remember if it was in the book that Paul had visions about that black guy to be his mentor, then ending up having to kill him. I found it a very elegant explanation how he is given choices over the fate of his own and others' despite those visions[/spoiler]

Quote from: Agelastus on November 09, 2021, 10:32:15 AM

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AM
The Geidi Prime scene although contrary to book canon (no outsiders allowed) tells you everything you need to know about the Sardaukar without a word of exposition.

I've not seen the film but this line reads as if the scene should be on Salusa Secundus, the Sardaukar "home planet"?

Correct, thanks. I confused the two.  It's been a while. Corrected the post.

The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Its the kind of thing that makes me realize how bad I would be at making a movie. My movies would all be 8 hours long and people would hang themselves from boredom.

there's probably a market for that amount the truly snobby film lover group.

Quote from: celedhring on November 09, 2021, 11:09:23 AM
The Salusa Secundus scene might be my favorite of the movie. As Minsky says, it conveys everything you need in just a few seconds with music, framing, and a small bit of dialogue. It's masterful.

Agreed.  I loved that scene.

I think my favorite part of the Salusa Secundus scene was how ignorant of affairs the Sardaukar commander seemed to be. "You outnumber them, what's the problem?" is precisely the kind of question I imagine an arrogant, undefeated death-force would ask.

Quote from: The Minsky Moment on November 09, 2021, 10:09:38 AMSome niggling issues including some bad displays of water discipline (we've learned IRL how tricky mask usage can be . . .) but the only thing that bothered me were the ending scenes. It does end on a note of triumphalism which I think does play into the anachronistic "woke" critiques.  The funeral scene from the book does not occur here - perhaps it is being saved for the next part, but room should have been found to put it at the end of this part.  Paul's appeal to the Fremen is not that he is an effective fighter - that is a necessary but far from sufficient condition.  It is his spiritual authority - and that should have been the closing note.

I think the major niggling issue is the phrase "desert power" <_< :lol:

Quote from: HVC on November 09, 2021, 12:21:15 PM
there's probably a market for that amount the truly snobby film lover group.

Anybody with a camcorder can take eight hours of film, and many do.

I found myself wondering what the experience was like for people who have not read the book; there were explanations for everything but some of them were rather swift.

Looking forward to part 2, which they have not even started filming yet, the release date being oct23.

Quote from: Sheilbh on November 09, 2021, 05:03:03 PM
I think the major niggling issue is the phrase "desert power" <_< :lol:

Well to be fair it's Herbert's phrase from the novel.  But it certainly conveys a whiff of Cheney/Rumsfeld c 2002.

Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on November 10, 2021, 02:00:06 AM
I found myself wondering what the experience was like for people who have not read the book; there were explanations for everything but some of them were rather swift.

Looking forward to part 2, which they have not even started filming yet, the release date being oct23.

I had the same thought/concern. According to my wife who never read the books (but likes the Lynch movie, visuals at least), it was fine and there was a reasonable amount of explaining going on.

I read the first book in the series. Then saw the Lynch film.

Quote from: Josephus on November 10, 2021, 10:23:17 AM
I read the first book in the series. Then saw the Lynch film.

:hug:

I went Dune 2 the PC game, TV mini-series, book, Lynch movie (OMB BLEH) then new movie.

I'm going back to the movie theatre again today for a second viewing with son of fromtia. After a few days of digesting, I'm still largely stunned by how good the movie is, especially some of the skilfull exposition (oft mentioned non canon Salusa Secundus scene). The quibble, gripe even, that's most common in the reviews I'm now reading is the one that the movie ends abruptly in a rather forced way, and that's certainly fair. In the Jamis fight scene it may have been better if we'd had Pauls tears as well, and a bit more exposition - which villeneuve has proved to be masterful at - showing the Fremen trying to decide if Paul really is Lisan al Ghaib and perhaps a tiny bit more Missionara Protectiva.

Other than that my gripe, is that the movie was so good, I wanted it to be at least an hour longer, more Thufir, more Thufir/Jessicas mutual suspicion, a bit more Yueh and search for the spy and the famous dinner scene - which apparently was filmed!!!

It was good. Though intermissions really need to be brought back to the cinema.

Skarsgards Baron is fantastic - understated schemer as opposed to the previous comedy villains. Makes a world of difference.

For Sheilbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LE32cO7Raw&ab_channel=Ash777

MRs B is taking the kids to Banff for a couple days - they're off of school for a "fall break", while I still have to work.

Maybe I'll check out Dune tomorrow.  Theatre should hopefully not be very crowded by this point.

Quote from: celedhring on November 10, 2021, 11:30:49 AM
For Sheilbh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LE32cO7Raw&ab_channel=Ash777

:lol:

Saw the movie this weekend.  No flaw that I could discern.  I'm still amazed at this movie.  Can't wait for part 2! :)