Because this caravan of crazy is going to deserve its own thread.
QuoteMiddle East
Tips for Leaders Meeting Trump: Keep It Short and Give Him a Win
By PETER BAKER MAY 18, 2017
The Failing New York Times
WASHINGTON — As Saudi Arabia's leaders prepared to make a pitch to the White House for a visit by President Trump, a PowerPoint presentation was put together complete with slides describing Saudi demographics, investments in the United States and ambitious plans for reform.
Another slide showed pictures of three palaces Mr. Trump could choose to stay at should he come, including "His Majesty's weekend personal residence." Ultimately, someone must have thought better of it, because that slide was not shown. But the pitch worked. Mr. Trump heads to Riyadh on Friday, the first stop in his first overseas trip since taking office.
For foreign leaders trying to figure out the best way to approach an American president unlike any they have known, it is a time of experimentation. Embassies in Washington trade tips and ambassadors send cables to presidents and ministers back home suggesting how to handle a mercurial, strong-willed leader with no real experience on the world stage, a preference for personal diplomacy and a taste for glitz.
After four months of interactions between Mr. Trump and his counterparts, foreign officials and their Washington consultants say certain rules have emerged: Keep it short — no 30-minute monologue for a 30-second attention span. Do not assume he knows the history of the country or its major points of contention. Compliment him on his Electoral College victory. Contrast him favorably with President Barack Obama. Do not get hung up on whatever was said during the campaign. Stay in regular touch. Do not go in with a shopping list but bring some sort of deal he can call a victory.
"If you were prepping people for Donald Trump, the two or three points would be: one, bear in mind this is still a guy who focuses on wins," Peter Westmacott, a former British ambassador to the United States, said. "He likes to have wins for America and wins for himself from bilateral meetings."
"Secondly," he continued, "he is a deal maker, a pragmatist. Third, this is a guy with a limited attention span. He absolutely won't want to listen to visitors droning on for a half-hour — or longer if they need an interpreter."
Mr. Trump has been an especially active interlocutor with foreign leaders. During his first 100 days in office, he hosted 16 meetings with foreign leaders and, as of Monday, had made 76 phone calls to 43 leaders. Just this week, he hosted at the White House the crown prince of the United Arab Emirates, the president of Turkey and the president of Colombia, while talking by phone with leaders like King Abdullah II of Jordan and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel.
In the past, presidential phone calls were made only after much deliberation and with specific strategic objectives. But Mr. Trump is much more willing to get on the phone with little or no notice. When an ally like Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain or Chancellor Angela Merkel of Germany wants to talk with him, diplomats said, he will call back within hours, even minutes, without even insisting on knowing the purpose.
His approach will undergo a more profound test in the coming week as he encounters dozens of world leaders during a nine-day, five-stop trip. In Riyadh, he will attend meetings with leaders from across the Muslim world before heading to Jerusalem, where he will meet separately with Mr. Netanyahu and his Palestinian counterpart, Mahmoud Abbas.
At the Vatican, Mr. Trump will meet with Pope Francis. In Brussels, he will gather with other leaders of the 28 NATO countries and have lunch with the newly elected president of France, Emmanuel Macron. In Sicily, he will participate in the annual summit meeting of the Group of 7 powers, an event that typically also draws dozens of other leaders who show up for meetings on the side.
For Mr. Trump, personal interaction and chemistry matter.
"He immediately wants to make people feel comfortable," said Dina Kawar, the ambassador from Jordan, whose King Abdullah has met with Mr. Trump in person twice since the inauguration. "The president listens a lot."
So much so that Mr. Trump has proved willing to put aside long-held beliefs after talking with a foreign leader. King Abdullah flew to Washington without a White House invitation in the early days of the administration to urge him not to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem as he had promised. After the king argued that it would provoke a potentially violent reaction in the Arab world, Mr. Trump shelved the move.
Another case in point is Mr. Trump's unlikely new friendship with President Xi Jinping of China. Although Mr. Trump spent years castigating the Chinese as the "enemy," a get-together with Mr. Xi in Florida went so well that he has heaped praise on the Chinese leader, calling him "a very good man." Mr. Xi brought with him a theoretical 100-day plan to improve trade ties and a promise to increase pressure on North Korea, giving Mr. Trump achievements to trumpet. The president has since dropped or moderated his complaints about Chinese currency and economic practices.
It helps to establish a family connection. Mr. Netanyahu has emphasized his relationship with Jared Kushner, the president's son-in-law, going back to when the young man was a child. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada took the president's daughter Ivanka Trump to "Come From Away," a Broadway show about Canadians who helped Americans stranded after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Ms. Merkel invited Ms. Trump to Germany to join a panel on women's entrepreneurship.
Ms. Merkel has also learned the value of simply staying in touch. While her meeting at the White House with Mr. Trump included an awkward photo opportunity that suggested coolness, she has kept in regular contact. When she planned to travel to Saudi Arabia last month, she called Mr. Trump first, ostensibly to ask his advice — counsel that after 12 years in office she hardly needed from a diplomatic novice.
"He values personal relationships," Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of Australia said after a personal meeting in New York where the two men smoothed over an initial testy phone call. "He is a very warm leader, a very warm person with a very personal approach. That's just been his business style."
The British lapped the field by maneuvering to make Mrs. May the first foreign leader to meet with Mr. Trump after the inauguration. She accepted an invitation to address a Republican retreat in Philadelphia in January, putting her in position to wangle a White House visit. It worked. And the British ended up tutoring the Trump team on how to choreograph a foreign leader visit — the format for meetings, who would be in which one, how they would make statements to the media.
Since then, Mr. Trump and Mrs. May have spoken by phone four or five times. The visit came off well enough that the Japanese and others then called the British seeking advice when their leaders were preparing to come to the United States.
The Saudis scored their own coup by persuading Mr. Trump to make Saudi Arabia his first foreign destination as president, beating Mexico and Canada, which have traded that honor since the 1970s. Mr. Trump chose Riyadh in part because Saudi Arabia is the home of Islam's two holiest sites and in part because he hopes to strengthen the Sunni Arab alignment against Shia-led Iran.
Deputy Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman did not even need to promote the palaces. The unused slide proposed that the president stay at the Al-Auja Palace but then offered two alternatives, the Al-Nasseriyah Palace or a guest palace that is really the Ritz-Carlton. The Ritz is where Mr. Obama stayed.
Either way, the Saudis plan to offer a royal reception.
QuoteThe Itinerary
Friday, May 19 Departs Washington
Saturday, May 20 Arrives in Saudi Arabia
The stakes: President Trump, who sought to bar citizens from several Muslim-majority countries from entering the United States, will visit the birthplace of Islam, where he is expected to give a speech on the religion. Throughout his campaign, Mr. Trump portrayed terrorists as "radical" Muslims. In Saudi Arabia, he is expected to call for a moderating influence on the religion.
Meets with King Salman of Saudi Arabia.
Mr. Trump and the first lady join the Saudi royal family for dinner.
May 21 Saudi Arabia
Meets with leaders of a Gulf coalition, including Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates.
Attends meetings with leaders from across the Muslim world.
Gives a speech about Islam at a new center to fight radicalism.
Participates in a conference about social media.
May 22 Israel
The stakes: What was expected to be the smoothest part of the trip, a meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, has become fraught, after revelations this week that Mr. Trump disclosed intelligence from Israel about a possible Islamic State plot against commercial airplanes in a meeting with Russian officials at the White House.
Arrival ceremony in Tel Aviv.
Meets with President Reuven Rivlin of Israel in Jerusalem.
Visits the Church of the Holy Sepulchre and the Western Wall.
Meets with Mr. Netanyahu of Israel.
The president and first lady will have dinner with Mr. Netanyahu and his wife, Sara.
May 23 Israel
The stakes: Mr. Trump is expected to meet with Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian leader. Mr. Trump has said he wants to broker a "bigger and better deal" between the Israelis and the Palestinians than previous presidents have attempted.
Meets with Mr. Abbas.
Lays a wreath at the Holocaust memorial museum.
Gives speech at the Israel Museum before departing for Rome.
May 24 Rome, the Vatican, Brussels
The stakes: Pope Francis has been critical of the president's policies on the environment and refugees; during the election campaign, Mr. Trump called the pontiff's criticism "disgraceful."
Meets with Pope Francis at the Vatican and tours St. Peter's Basilica.
Heads to the Quirinal Palace in Rome, the official residence of President Sergio Mattarella of Italy.
Arrives in Brussels late afternoon and meets with King Philippe of Belgium.
May 25 Brussels
The stakes: Mr. Trump has criticized NATO and threatened to leave. Though he has stepped away from some of those comments, he is expected to push members of the alliance to spend more on defense.
Meets with European Union officials.
Lunch with President Emmanuel Macron of France.
Dinner with other leaders of the 28 NATO countries.
May 26 Sicily
The stakes: The president will be expected to reassure his counterparts of the Group of 7 major industrial democracies, including leaders of some of America's closest allies, that he is a reliable statesman and not an unpredictable populist.
Participates in the annual summit meeting of the Group of 7 powers.
May 27 Sicily
More Group of 7 meetings.
Visits American troops stationed at the Sigonella naval air station in Sicily.
That's some good allies lost...oh well
QuoteMr. Trump has said he wants to broker a "bigger and better deal" between the Israelis and the Palestinians than previous presidents have attempted.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
You have got to be kidding me.
Quote from: 11B4V on May 19, 2017, 07:08:35 PM
That's some good allies lost...oh well
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We could only hope.
Trumps supporters would never believe the 'Deep State' did not kill him if that happened.
:lol: I was referring to the in-flight movie for the press pool on Air Force One :lol:
That maniac, his family and the West Wing senior staff, together for 10 days in that beer can while the government collapses? It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether!
Quote from: Valmy on May 19, 2017, 07:10:17 PM
QuoteMr. Trump has said he wants to broker a "bigger and better deal" between the Israelis and the Palestinians than previous presidents have attempted.
:bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding: :bleeding:
You have got to be kidding me.
I am laughing. But I shouldn't. I know it's wrong, but I'm tired, and I just can't stop myself. :D
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/560839957426999297
QuoteDonald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
8:40 am - 29 Jan 2015
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I'm so glad the Cylons sent Melania as their delegation.
And you know he's never going to shut up about palace guards, either. I feel sorry for the Secret Service guys that are going to have to wear tablecloths on their heads now.
I look forward to the day when Prince George greets President Trump in a bathrobe, and Trump pets his head.
No gif of him curtsying to the King yet?
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What a kind and sensitive person
lol forgot about the auto-censor :lol:
Might as well crown him Emperor with all that overblown ceremony.
I did like the cavalry escort for the limo.
For those who want to get around the censor, try "Uncuck yourself, manlet"
Your welcome.
What's with the weird pixilation of The Donald's combover?
Melania had to fight Hulk Hogan to get that belt.
Wait wasn't Obama bowing to a few monarchs the greatest national shame since Vietnam? Has Trump learned nothing?
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Looks like he's about to jump out of his skin
He's probably having the DTs, and thinks he's being attacked by Italian restaurant tables.
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I think he's Muslim now. That's how they do it right?
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Oh he is in Jerusalem now. Great.
Quote from: Valmy on May 22, 2017, 10:21:12 AM
Oh he is in Jerusalem now. Great.
*cue Lindsay Buckingham
New hubbub is Trump covered his head in Israel but the girls didn't in Saudi Arabia
I love the pic of Melania, looking for the secret release switch.
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Sad pepe is best pepe.
(((Trump)))?
Trump signals closeness with Israel by unveiling new flying saucer hairdo at Wailing Wall.
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That was, in fact, my first thought when I saw the photo: why are they fucking with a palantir?
Maybe it's better that it's not a palantir, so he doesn't have to see the latest bout of violently explosive chimpanzee diarrhea back home. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-asked-intelligence-chiefs-to-push-back-against-fbi-collusion-probe-after-comey-revealed-its-existence/2017/05/22/394933bc-3f10-11e7-9869-bac8b446820a_story.html)
QuoteDonald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Israel, Saudi Arabia and the Middle East were great. Trying hard for PEACE. Doing well. Heading to Vatican & Pope, then #G7 and #NATO.
Welcome in Wome. Welease Twump!
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Quote from: Maladict on May 24, 2017, 04:01:52 AM
Welcome in Wome. Welease Twump!
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Well-done. :lol:
Apparently this was Trump's message in the memorial book at the Yad Vashem.
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Your President will most probably ruin my commute home :mad:
Just before the bank holiday tomorrow :glare:
Her arrives around 16pm and I stop 16:30, big chance I'll be stuck one half hour while his motorcade passes before my window at work.
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Quote from: The Larch on May 24, 2017, 05:01:07 AM
Apparently this was Trump's message in the memorial book at the Yad Vashem.
Compare with Obama:
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Quote from: Syt on May 24, 2017, 06:42:43 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 24, 2017, 05:01:07 AM
Apparently this was Trump's message in the memorial book at the Yad Vashem.
Compare with Obama:
Well, one is the seemingly honest reaction of an impulsive moron, the other is the run of the mill, crafted-to-soullessness reaction of a professional politician.
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Francis doesn't seem to be enjoying himself much with the meeting. :lol:
Also, hot women wearing mantillas? Must be a first. :P
Quote from: garbon on May 24, 2017, 06:45:52 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 24, 2017, 06:42:43 AM
Quote from: The Larch on May 24, 2017, 05:01:07 AM
Apparently this was Trump's message in the memorial book at the Yad Vashem.
Compare with Obama:
Well, one is the seemingly honest reaction of an impulsive moron, the other is the run of the mill, crafted-to-soullessness reaction of a professional politician.
I know it's a jab at the comments on the other thread, but come on. Trump's reads as if it was a restaurant review. :lol:
Actually, in all fairness, I'd say that this seems like something irrelevant to pick on him on. After all, he didn't tell any lies in the guestbook. :D
And he stayed within his 140 character limit. :P
Why are his ties always too long? Shouldn't someone tell him eventually?
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Twitter reactions:
QuoteThat awkward moment when you're Pope and you accidentally gatecrash a satanic ritual
QuotePope: "I want to go home"
Aide: "You are home"
"I hate this"
"Just smile"
"These people are awful"
"Be nice"
"I want an ice cream"
QuoteFilm plot: The utterly horrific main character's dad dies but returns as a ghost to try and make his son into a better person.
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Also, Melania really doesn't like being touched by him, does she?
Rome:
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Also, Melania really doesn't like being touched by him, does she?
Rome:
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Israel:
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Quote from: Syt on May 24, 2017, 07:49:29 AM
Also, Melania really doesn't like being touched by him, does she?
Rome:
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No
She lets him know when she's pissed, that's for sure.
Can't imagine her being high maintenance or anything.
She better get in line or she's going to get replaced by Ivanka.
Quote from: derspiess on May 24, 2017, 09:08:51 AM
Can't imagine her being high maintenance or anything.
A fashion model from the Balkans? Go fig, right?
She will submit to the power of the orb.
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Francis doesn't seem to be enjoying himself much with the meeting. :lol:
Also, hot women wearing mantillas? Must be a first. :P
Who are they mourning? :P
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
Maybe Cal is saying Trump is the Pope
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
Nobody from Argentina could possibly be evil!
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Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
go back to the true mother church and turn away from your evil ways. Cool Pope will forgive you.
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
+1000
No shit.
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/remaining-countries-on-trumps-itinerary-say-theyd-rather-wait-a-month-and-meet-with-next-president
QuoteREMAINING COUNTRIES ON TRUMP'S ITINERARY SAY THEY'D RATHER WAIT A MONTH AND MEET WITH NEXT PRESIDENT
BRUSSELS (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump's foreign trip hit a snag on Tuesday, when the remaining countries on his itinerary announced that they would rather "wait a month" and meet with the next President instead.
"It makes no sense for us to roll out the red carpet for Trump when there is going to be a completely different guy in the White House in a month," Hendrik van der Valde, a travel minister for the Belgian government, said. "We very much look forward to hosting the next U.S. President, be it Mike Pence or Paul Ryan or whoever."
Citing the exorbitant costs of hosting a President, the Belgian said it "would be insane" to spend such sums on someone who "only has a few weeks left" in office.
"When a President comes to your country, you have to feed not only him but a whole plane full of people that he brings," the minister added. "Jared Kushner, for example, eats a ton, and no one even knows what he does."
nato ministers, who had been slated to meet with Trump in Brussels on Thursday, voted unanimously last night to reschedule the meeting for June to accommodate his replacement.
According to one nato minister, "We don't see why we should be speaking to Donald Trump when even Melania isn't doing that."
Has anyone realize that "pope" is just one letter away from being "pepe"? Maybe the pope is just worried people will make the connection.
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Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
go back to the true mother church and turn away from your evil ways. Cool Pope will forgive you.
That sounds exactly like someone who follows the Anti-Christ would say. :contract:
I don't need "Cool Pope" to forgive me. I only need Jesus to forgive me. :goodboy:
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
Not even remotely. Prosperity gospel followers et. al. have a much clearer claim on that title.
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
I thought he was the Whore of Babylon.
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: HVC on May 24, 2017, 01:54:15 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
go back to the true mother church and turn away from your evil ways. Cool Pope will forgive you.
That sounds exactly like someone who follows the Anti-Christ would say. :contract:
I don't need "Cool Pope" to forgive me. I only need Jesus to forgive me. :goodboy:
Jesus cursed a fig tree cause he was hangry, you can't trust that dude to be rational.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 24, 2017, 11:51:29 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 24, 2017, 01:49:48 PM
Quote from: Caliga on May 24, 2017, 01:40:11 PM
The Pope standing next to the Antichrist and his she-demons. :)
:rolleyes:
The Pope *is* the Anti-Christ.
I thought he was the Whore of Babylon.
:yeahright: Didn't you say Green Day was an exception?
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Quote from: Eddie Teach on May 25, 2017, 07:06:10 AM
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Then it was probably someone else.
This has actually gone quite well hasn't it? Relatively speaking of course.
Quote from: Maladict on May 25, 2017, 10:55:47 AM
This has actually gone quite well hasn't it? Relatively speaking of course.
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Quote from: Maladict on May 25, 2017, 10:55:47 AM
This has actually gone quite well hasn't it? Relatively speaking of course.
Nothing disastrous has occurred that I am aware of. Granted I am not following it all very closely.
Seems to be basically a clown show though we did do a big arms deal so there is that I guess.
Trump pointedly declined to support NATO Article V at the NATO summit today.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-declines-to-back-core-nato-tenet-to-dismay-of-european-allies-1495730615?mod=e2tw
Quote from: Barrister on May 25, 2017, 03:18:09 PM
Trump pointedly declined to support NATO Article V at the NATO summit today.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-declines-to-back-core-nato-tenet-to-dismay-of-european-allies-1495730615?mod=e2tw
Murdoch wants me to subscribe.
Quote from: The Brain on May 25, 2017, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: Barrister on May 25, 2017, 03:18:09 PM
Trump pointedly declined to support NATO Article V at the NATO summit today.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-declines-to-back-core-nato-tenet-to-dismay-of-european-allies-1495730615?mod=e2tw
Murdoch wants me to subscribe.
The first paragraph gives you the gist of it.
Is he going to pull a Ribbentrop on Europe? :D
:unsure:
Well I guess that is one way to pressure the Euros to spend more on killing machines.
lol, Poles. Fucked again. Enjoy all that fat Russian cock up your ass in 2021, Marti.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
lol, Poles. Fucked again. Enjoy all that fat Russian cock up your ass in 2021, Marti.
If the Russians want to invade Poland it better happen before that, once the Rock becomes President there will be no more fuckery.
Quote from: sbr on May 25, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
lol, Poles. Fucked again. Enjoy all that fat Russian cock up your ass in 2021, Marti.
If the Russians want to invade Poland it better happen before that, once the Rock becomes President there will be no more fuckery.
He's going to be reelected.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 07:02:18 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 25, 2017, 06:16:39 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 25, 2017, 04:35:19 PM
lol, Poles. Fucked again. Enjoy all that fat Russian cock up your ass in 2021, Marti.
If the Russians want to invade Poland it better happen before that, once the Rock becomes President there will be no more fuckery.
He's going to be reelected.
Out of respect for you being right about every singe fucking thing about Trump over the last 24 months I will say nothing stronger than we'll see what happens. I can't imagine it but I couldn't (and still can't) imagine it happening the first time.
Trump won't run again. The job is a lot less fun than he imagined, and he's already getting bored with it.
QuoteU.S. President Donald Trump voiced significant displeasure over Germany's trade surplus on Thursday during a meeting with European Union leaders in Brussels. "The Germans are bad, very bad," Trump said, according to meeting participants.
The participants told DER SPIEGEL that Trump went on to say: "See the millions of cars they are selling to the U.S. Terrible. We will stop this."
:bleeding:
Quote from: Maladict on May 26, 2017, 06:42:16 AM
QuoteU.S. President Donald Trump voiced significant displeasure over Germany's trade surplus on Thursday during a meeting with European Union leaders in Brussels. "The Germans are bad, very bad," Trump said, according to meeting participants.
The participants told DER SPIEGEL that Trump went on to say: "See the millions of cars they are selling to the U.S. Terrible. We will stop this."
:bleeding:
Trump needs to worry more about Canada ($43 billion in car exports to the US in 2016) than Germany ($27B).
Quote from: grumbler on May 26, 2017, 07:09:27 AM
Trump needs to worry more about Canada ($43 billion in car exports to the US in 2016) than Germany ($27B).
There is zero chance that Trump will worry about facts. All of his angst is reserved for fictional things like wiretapping former Presidents, phantom brigades of illegal immigrant voters, and the Democratic Party.
Quote from: grumbler on May 26, 2017, 07:09:27 AM
Quote from: Maladict on May 26, 2017, 06:42:16 AM
QuoteU.S. President Donald Trump voiced significant displeasure over Germany's trade surplus on Thursday during a meeting with European Union leaders in Brussels. "The Germans are bad, very bad," Trump said, according to meeting participants.
The participants told DER SPIEGEL that Trump went on to say: "See the millions of cars they are selling to the U.S. Terrible. We will stop this."
:bleeding:
Trump needs to worry more about Canada ($43 billion in car exports to the US in 2016) than Germany ($27B).
but they are American car companies. Not sure he can reconcile the 2.
And large assembly plants for German car companies are located in southern states who voted for him. Sucks about the jobs Chattanooga.
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 26, 2017, 09:45:36 AM
but they are American car companies. Not sure he can reconcile the 2.
Doesn't matter.
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Quote from: grumbler on May 25, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
Trump won't run again. The job is a lot less fun than he imagined, and he's already getting bored with it.
It's not about fun. It's about winning. And not running for reelection = quitting. We can't have that.
QuoteMorning Mix
Sean Spicer didn't get to meet the pope. Even reporters feel sorry for him.
By Samantha Schmidt May 25 at 7:27 AM
The least likely people you'd expect to feel bad for embattled White House press secretary Sean Spicer are those who are most often subject to his temper.
So it came as a surprise to some on Wednesday when Spicer received an outpouring of sympathy from the press. The reason: As President Trump met with Pope Francis at the Vatican, the Catholic Spicer was noticeably absent from the entourage.
Those in attendance included first lady Melania Trump, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, national security adviser H.R. McMaster, communications adviser Hope Hicks, former Trump bodyguard Keith Schiller and social media manager Dan Scavino. Daughter Ivanka Trump and her husband, Jared Kushner, who are Jewish, also met with the pontiff.
Meanwhile, Spicer, the highly visible White House aide who was reportedly excited to meet with Pope Francis, wasn't there.
"Wow," a source told CNN. "That's all he wanted."
Spicer's absence struck a chord. By excluding him, "Trump has done something I thought was impossible," tweeted Josh Dawsey, Politico White House reporter. "He has made everyone empathize with/defend Spicer."
Why one of Trump's top Catholic staffers wasn't invited to meet the Pope. Sad! https://t.co/Jmm3omhUYj
— CNN Religion (@CNNbelief) May 24, 2017
Even New York Times reporter Glenn Thrush spoke out. Spicer has on multiple occasions criticized and clashed with Thrush during press briefings, exchanges portrayed by Melissa McCarthy's Spicer character on "Saturday Night Live."
"That planners of this trip couldn't or wouldn't get @seanspicer into the Vatican speaks to a small-mindedness I find incredibly depressing," Thrush tweeted.
Thrush's colleague Maggie Haberman also tweeted about the snub. "This seems needlessly harsh — when else is Spicer likely to meet the Pope, and it mattered to him?" the Times White House correspondent said.
"Trump is a cruel boss," said New Republic senior editor Jeet Heer, who said the president "didn't let Sean Spicer meet the Pope out of sheer meanness."
Politico Magazine editor in chief Blake Hounshell said that leaving out Spicer "seems like a slight."
Huff Post published the headline: "Sean Spicer Gets A Ride On The Nope Mobile." :lol:
CNN's Erin Burnett said that getting to meetwith the pope "by all accounts would have been the highlight of his life."
Mark Preston, a senior political analyst for CNN who attends church in the same parish as Spicer, told Burnett that "I'm sure is really hurting him," and suggested Spicer's exclusion reflected the president's "pettiness." Preston said of Spicer's job: "There are very few perks; there are very long days. For something like this to happen to Sean Spicer I think really is an indictment against Donald Trump and again in his lack of loyalty."
Burnett wrapped up the segment with this: "If Donald Trump indeed plans to remove him, go ahead and get rid of him. But he's done a lot for you. This deeply mattered to him. I just think on a human level it was clear what the right thing to do was."
@maggieNYT could he at least watch from the bushes?
— Tim Rogers (@nicadispatch) May 24, 2017
Some outside of the media industry were equally sympathetic.
"I'm no Spicer fan, but Trump's petty refusal to include him, a devout Catholic ... was cruel and disgusting," Harvard Law School's Laurence Tribe tweeted.
"There are few things I despise more than people who use their power to step on the dreams of others," another tweet said.
Spicer is a regular at Sunday Mass and told reporters earlier this year that he had given up alcohol for Lent. He was mocked last year for appearing on CNN with ashes on his forehead on Ash Wednesday.
Spicer did not respond to media requests for comment Wednesday evening, but he has spoken of his faith publicly. In a television interview during the Trump transition, Spicer said of his new job: "I'm going to look to God every day to give me the strength to do what's right. That's all you can ask for is to get up and say, 'Can I do this thing?' Help guide me and ask Him for strength."
But some on social media expressed less sympathy toward the press secretary, with at least one Twitter user surmising, "maybe he didn't want to go!"
And comedian Samantha Bee offered Spicer a word of advice, tweeting: "sorry about the pope. Remember, you don't HAVE to put up with this ..."
He was mocked for having ashes on Ash Wednesday? Why? Seems like a logical time to have ashes on your forehead.
Quote from: Valmy on May 26, 2017, 11:50:01 AM
He was mocked for having ashes on Ash Wednesday? Why? Seems like a logical time to have ashes on your forehead.
Flush out your head gear, new guy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 26, 2017, 11:08:46 AM
Quote from: grumbler on May 25, 2017, 07:28:12 PM
Trump won't run again. The job is a lot less fun than he imagined, and he's already getting bored with it.
It's not about fun. It's about winning. And not running for reelection = quitting. We can't have that.
Nonsense. He will nail himself to a cross and then have every reason to reject submitting himself to the failing media and fickle public. It'll be our loss, and THAT will show us!
The Pope had already just met Jim Harbaugh. Trump shouldn't have scheduled a meeting just then - it was bound to be a letdown for the Pope.
German press describes the G7 summit as utter disaster. Trump was disinterested, hostile and ignorant. He was apparently not briefed on any of the issues and was not willing to participate in any decisions. In some of the debates he did not put in his translation earpiece despite the others speaking in their native language. So he just sat there and didn't listen...
Quote from: Zanza on May 27, 2017, 02:45:18 PM
German press describes the G7 summit as utter disaster. Trump was disinterested, hostile and ignorant. He was apparently not briefed on any of the issues and was not willing to participate in any decisions. In some of the debates he did not put in his translation earpiece despite the others speaking in their native language. So he just sat there and didn't listen...
Makin' 'Murica Great Again. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Zanza on May 27, 2017, 02:45:18 PM
German press describes the G7 summit as utter disaster. Trump was disinterested, hostile and ignorant. He was apparently not briefed on any of the issues and was not willing to participate in any decisions. In some of the debates he did not put in his translation earpiece despite the others speaking in their native language. So he just sat there and didn't listen...
He won't listen...!
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Quote from: Zanza on May 27, 2017, 02:45:18 PM
German press describes the G7 summit as utter disaster. Trump was disinterested, hostile and ignorant. He was apparently not briefed on any of the issues and was not willing to participate in any decisions. In some of the debates he did not put in his translation earpiece despite the others speaking in their native language. So he just sat there and didn't listen...
That's our Donald! :yeah:
What a good job he did!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/angela-merkel-donald-trump-germany-us-no-longer-rely-european-union-climate-change-g7-a7760486.html
QuoteAngela Merkel says Germany can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America: 'We Europeans must take our destiny into our own hands'
The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, has suggested her country and Europe can no longer rely on the US under Donald Trump.
Speaking at a campaign event in Bavaria, Ms Merkel emphasised the need for friendly relations with the US, Britain and Russia, but added: "We Europeans must really take our destiny into our own hands."
She said that, as the traditional western alliance is threatened by the new US presidency and Brexit, "the times in which we can fully count on others are somewhat over, as I have experienced in the past few days."
While Germany and Europe would strive to maintain relations with America and Britain, Ms Merkel said Europeans "have to fight for our own destiny".
Her comments came after Mr Trump said he needed more time to decide if the US would continue backing the Paris climate deal, which has frustrated European diplomats.
Mr Trump, who has previously called global warming a hoax, came under concerted pressure from the other leaders to honour the 2015 Paris Agreement on curbing carbon emissions.
Although he tweeted to say he would make a decision next week, his apparent reluctance to embrace the first legally binding global climate change deal, signed by 195 countries, clearly annoyed Ms Merkel.
"The entire discussion about climate was very difficult, if not to say very dissatisfying," she told reporters.
"There are no indications whether the United States will stay in the Paris Agreement or not."
G7 leaders went on to blame the US for the failure to reach an agreement on climate change, in an unusually frank statement which read: "The United States of America is in the process of reviewing its policies on climate change and on the Paris Agreement and thus is not in a position to join the consensus on these topics.
"Understanding this process, the heads of state and of government of Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United Kingdom and the presidents of the European Council and of the European Commission reaffirm their strong commitment to swiftly implement the Paris Agreement."
Mr Trump has reportedly told "confidants," including the head of the Environmental Protection Angency Scott Pruitt, he plans to leave the international agreement on climate change, the Axios news outlet reported, citing three sources with direct knowledge.
A source who has been in contact with people involved in the decision told Reuters a couple of meetings were planned with chief executives of energy companies and big corporations and others about the climate agreement ahead of Mr Trump's expected announcement later in the week.
It was unclear whether those meetings would still take place.
I would think, considering how everybody knows by now that The Donald doesn't have the faintest clue about policy and doesn't care, that any kind of discussion with him about anything would be talking to a wall.
You want to know what he's going to do about the Paris Agreement? Look at who he's hired for cabinet and agency positions. There's your answer, and you knew it before he even arrived.
He told them he's waiting a week before deciding because he wants to know from his advisors what to say, but he wanted to get out of there first, as he's the worst kind of bully--an immoral spineless coward when it comes to being confronted face to face about his previously documented smacktalk.
And fuck it; I'm all about German rearmament now. Go for it, Heinz.
Germany has some ketching up to do.
At least you kept the Saudis as BFF. :hug:
I believe this little nugget escaped our coverage of the G7 meeting:
QuoteG7 leaders took a stroll in Sicily — and Trump followed them in a golf cart
President Trump rounded out his first foreign trip since taking office by joining other G7 leaders as they walked the streets of Taormina, Sicily.
There was just one difference: as the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Canada, and Japan walked on foot, Trump followed in a golf cart.
"They walked the 700 yards from the traditional G7 group photo, taken at a Greek amphitheatre, to a piazza in the hilltop town, but Mr Trump stayed behind until he could take a seat in the electric vehicle," The Times reported.
It also noted that Trump arrived last for the photo as the 6 other leaders stood waiting for him.
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
Quote from: garbon on May 28, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
You know the one they're referring to in the story is actually of ancient Greek construction, right?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 28, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
You know the one they're referring to in the story is actually of ancient Greek construction, right?
And I thought that's what they were clarifying given that it was in Italy.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 28, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
You know the one they're referring to in the story is actually of ancient Greek construction, right?
You know it likely is just a theatre, and not an amphitheatre?
Quote from: The Brain on May 28, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
You know it likely is just a theatre, and not an amphitheatre?
I know you're unfortunately not likely to die in a massive radioactive incident because of an inoperable dosimeter sometime this week.
Amphitheaters are noted for their ability to eat frogs, newts, and salamanders. :)
Quote from: The Brain on May 28, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 28, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
You know the one they're referring to in the story is actually of ancient Greek construction, right?
You know it likely is just a theatre, and not an amphitheatre?
A quick google search indicates that it is an amphitheater but is probably of Roman build to a Greek design.
Quote from: The Larch on May 28, 2017, 03:11:50 PM
I believe this little nugget escaped our coverage of the G7 meeting:
QuoteG7 leaders took a stroll in Sicily — and Trump followed them in a golf cart
President Trump rounded out his first foreign trip since taking office by joining other G7 leaders as they walked the streets of Taormina, Sicily.
There was just one difference: as the leaders of the UK, France, Germany, Italy, Canada, and Japan walked on foot, Trump followed in a golf cart.
"They walked the 700 yards from the traditional G7 group photo, taken at a Greek amphitheatre, to a piazza in the hilltop town, but Mr Trump stayed behind until he could take a seat in the electric vehicle," The Times reported.
It also noted that Trump arrived last for the photo as the 6 other leaders stood waiting for him.
Let the plebs walk.
Trump is just showing off his astonishingly excellent health.
They see him Rolling, they hatin'
Quote from: grumbler on May 28, 2017, 06:23:24 PM
Quote from: The Brain on May 28, 2017, 05:06:56 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 28, 2017, 05:04:34 PM
Quote from: garbon on May 28, 2017, 04:54:32 PM
Quote from: Maladict on May 28, 2017, 04:51:17 PM
QuoteGreek amphitheatre
:bleeding:
You know Greeks didn't have the only type, right?
You know the one they're referring to in the story is actually of ancient Greek construction, right?
You know it likely is just a theatre, and not an amphitheatre?
A quick google search indicates that it is an amphitheater but is probably of Roman build to a Greek design.
The Greeks did not build amphitheatres.
And technically yes, the "Greek theatre" of Taormina is most likely a Roman era construction.
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/868838877653553153
QuoteDavid Frum
@davidfrum
Since 1945, the supreme strategic goal in Europe of the USSR and then Russia was the severing of the US-German alliance. Trump delivered.
Quote from: Maladict on May 29, 2017, 12:28:59 AM
The Greeks did not build amphitheatres.
And technically yes, the "Greek theatre" of Taormina is most likely a Roman era construction.
All Greek theaters were amphitheatres, as far as I am aware. A theater does not have to be circular to be an amphitheatre; semicircular works as well.
Edit: Never mind. I was incorrect in my dating of the term. It is derived from ancient Greek, but the Romans coined it and so, as you note, the Greeks couldn't have built amphitheatres.
What did you call them when they were built?
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
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Quote from: Syt on May 29, 2017, 04:20:53 AM
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/868838877653553153
QuoteDavid Frum
@davidfrum
Since 1945, the supreme strategic goal in Europe of the USSR and then Russia was the severing of the US-German alliance. Trump delivered.
You need to tell your countrymen to start cranking out more Leopards. You're going to need a lot more Panzer divisions to defend the Balkans and Poland.
GERMANY
THIS TIME A FORCE FOR GOOD
Quote from: grumbler on May 29, 2017, 07:17:19 AM
Quote from: Maladict on May 29, 2017, 12:28:59 AM
The Greeks did not build amphitheatres.
And technically yes, the "Greek theatre" of Taormina is most likely a Roman era construction.
All Greek theaters were amphitheatres, as far as I am aware. A theater does not have to be circular to be an amphitheatre; semicircular works as well.
Edit: Never mind. I was incorrect in my dating of the term. It is derived from ancient Greek, but the Romans coined it and so, as you note, the Greeks couldn't have built amphitheatres.
Not quite. The ancients reserved the name amphitheatre strictly for fully circular/oval buildings. All of the Greek and Roman semicircular theatres are just theatres, never amphitheatres.
And of course their functions were different as well.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2017, 08:31:49 AM
Quote from: Syt on May 29, 2017, 04:20:53 AM
https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/868838877653553153
QuoteDavid Frum
@davidfrum
Since 1945, the supreme strategic goal in Europe of the USSR and then Russia was the severing of the US-German alliance. Trump delivered.
You need to tell your countrymen to start cranking out more Leopards. You're going to need a lot more Panzer divisions to defend the Balkans and Poland.
GERMANY
THIS TIME A FORCE FOR GOOD
Merkel's comment got more attention internationally than merited. She is currently campaigning and a bit of America-skepticism has always been popular with German voters and Trump is an easy target as he is extremely unpopular in Germany. She is and will stay an instinctive transatlanticist.
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Quote from: Zanza on May 29, 2017, 12:17:55 PM
Merkel's comment got more attention internationally than merited. She is currently campaigning and a bit of America-skepticism has always been popular with German voters and Trump is an easy target as he is extremely unpopular in Germany. She is and will stay an instinctive transatlanticist.
Yes, I read The Economist, I know who her audiences are. Doesn't mean I can't hope for German rearmament.
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Taormina is indeed a lovely town, and the views from the theater are a sight to behold, with the Etna in the background.
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Taormina is indeed a lovely town, and the views from the theater are a sight to behold, with the Etna in the background.
Seriously, I might consider taking a vacation there, for the views like that in the picture you posted alone. Would you recommend a visit?
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 01:02:10 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Taormina is indeed a lovely town, and the views from the theater are a sight to behold, with the Etna in the background.
Seriously, I might consider taking a vacation there, for the views like that in the picture you posted alone. Would you recommend a visit?
Absolutely. Taormina is a lovely small town, and there are loads of really beautiful places to visit all over Sicily. If you want tips I would be more than happy to help you out. :)
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 29, 2017, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Zanza on May 29, 2017, 12:17:55 PM
Merkel's comment got more attention internationally than merited. She is currently campaigning and a bit of America-skepticism has always been popular with German voters and Trump is an easy target as he is extremely unpopular in Germany. She is and will stay an instinctive transatlanticist.
Yes, I read The Economist, I know who her audiences are. Doesn't mean I can't hope for German rearmament.
I hadn't even read the Economist article before you referred to it. It's a much better description of her target audiences than what I wrote.
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 01:02:10 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 12:58:18 PM
Quote from: Malthus on May 29, 2017, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Taormina is indeed a lovely town, and the views from the theater are a sight to behold, with the Etna in the background.
Seriously, I might consider taking a vacation there, for the views like that in the picture you posted alone. Would you recommend a visit?
Absolutely. Taormina is a lovely small town, and there are loads of really beautiful places to visit all over Sicily. If you want tips I would be more than happy to help you out. :)
Watch out, I may just hold you to that. :D
I don't think Taormina would even make my top 5 places in Sicily.
You should definitely go if you get a chance.
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The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
Wow, that is lovely!
Taormina is indeed a lovely town, and the views from the theater are a sight to behold, with the Etna in the background.
Seriously, I might consider taking a vacation there, for the views like that in the picture you posted alone. Would you recommend a visit?
Absolutely. Taormina is a lovely small town, and there are loads of really beautiful places to visit all over Sicily. If you want tips I would be more than happy to help you out. :)
Watch out, I may just hold you to that. :D
:D
Quote from: Maladict on May 29, 2017, 03:31:08 PM
I don't think Taormina would even make my top 5 places in Sicily.
You should definitely go if you get a chance.
What's your Sicily Top 5 then? Palermo, Siracusa, Agrigento, Cefalù and Catania? ;)
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Merkel's comment got more attention internationally than merited. She is currently campaigning and a bit of America-skepticism has always been popular with German voters and Trump is an easy target as he is extremely unpopular in Germany. She is and will stay an instinctive transatlanticist.
Yes, I read The Economist, I know who her audiences are. Doesn't mean I can't hope for German rearmament.
You just want white on black counters.
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You just want white on black counters.
Double movement during the Exploitation Phase? Fuck yeah.
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You just want white on black counters.
Double movement during the Exploitation Phase? Fuck yeah.
Plus a column shift to the right on the CRT.
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I don't think Taormina would even make my top 5 places in Sicily.
You should definitely go if you get a chance.
What's your Sicily Top 5 then? Palermo, Siracusa, Agrigento, Cefalù and Catania? ;)
I haven't yet been to Palermo, Monreale and Cefalu, I'm sure they would be up there.
Villa del Casale, Valle dei Templi, Selinunte, Erice, Mozia, Siracusa and M. Etna would all hold their own against Taormina imo. Taormina is beautiful, just not as interesting.
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I don't think Taormina would even make my top 5 places in Sicily.
You should definitely go if you get a chance.
What's your Sicily Top 5 then? Palermo, Siracusa, Agrigento, Cefalù and Catania? ;)
I haven't yet been to Palermo, Monreale and Cefalu, I'm sure they would be up there.
Villa del Casale, Valle dei Templi, Selinunte, Erice, Mozia, Siracusa and M. Etna would all hold their own against Taormina imo. Taormina is beautiful, just not as interesting.
Ah, I see that your scope is wider, I was only thinking about cities and towns, not going to your level of detail. I haven't been to W. Sicily so no idea about Mozia or Erice. Valle dei Templi, absolutely deserves to be there. Selinunte for some reasons didn't quite blow me away as much, although it's definitely a place to see. Agree on Siracusa and Etna (I actually went there from Taormina :p). I wanted to go to Vila del Casale but finally couldn't, went to Caltagirone instead which was very nice but not mind blowing.
All this talking is making me want to go back! If/Next time I go back there, I'll make sure to visit the western side of the island. I'm curious about the interior and the Eolian islands as well. Any tips?
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The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
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Ok, consider yourself the official Languish tourguide.
Where should I go?
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All this talking is making me want to go back! If/Next time I go back there, I'll make sure to visit the western side of the island. I'm curious about the interior and the Eolian islands as well. Any tips?
I really enjoyed the west, Trapani and Marsala are both pleasant enough towns, and I see I failed to list the Segesta temple.
The islands are well worth it from what I've heard, Lipari and Vulcano (and of course Stromboli) in particular.
As for the interior, some beautiful hilltop villages around Enna sping to mind. edit: working from home today, I've got my pictures here :cool:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkorXocb.jpg&hash=20b335734b8f24fd2527e86e359c12c9ff673822)
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Quote from: The Larch on May 29, 2017, 07:35:45 AM
The important thing is that it's a really lovely place. :wub:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmegaconstrucciones.net%2Fimages%2Fmonumentos%2Ffoto3%2Ftaormina-teatro.jpg&hash=b4ab058a0ac00ffd287587307d53072ebcbf3bc8)
Ok, consider yourself the official Languish tourguide.
Where should I go?
Sicilian Languish meet, anyone? :lol:
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Sicilian Languish meet, anyone? :lol:
I'm in. I have been to Italy way too little lately. :(
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I have been to Italy way too little lately. :(
It's on my list of places to visit if I win the lottery.
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Sicilian Languish meet, anyone? :lol:
I'm in. I have been to Italy way too little lately. :(
As well, lately I've only been there to change planes and that's a pity.