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Title: Look who's back!
Post by: Syt on February 11, 2017, 02:56:55 PM
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QuoteAustrian authorities seeking Hitler double seen around birthplace

Austrian authorities are investigating reports of a man appearing in public in Adolf Hitler's birthplace as the Nazi dictator's double, including the distinctive mustache, haircut and clothing.

"I have often seen this gentlemen in Braunau and wonder if this means something," the Oberoesterreichische Nachrichten paper cited a local resident as saying on his Facebook page alongside a picture of the man it said resembled Hitler.

Hitler was born in Braunau am Inn, then part of Austria-Hungary, in 1889.

Prosecutors confirmed the report.

The man, estimated to be 25 to 30 years old, was last seen in a local bookstore browsing through magazines about World War Two, adding he had identified himself in a local bar as "Harald Hitler.

On at least one occasion, he was photographed in front of the house where Hitler was born.

Austria's parliament voted in December to buy the three-storey house where Hitler was born, which the government has rented since 1972 to control how it is used.

Glorifying Hitler or the Nazis is a crime in Austria, which Nazi Germany annexed in 1938.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: mongers on February 11, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Has this man done anything wrong with regard to Austrian laws?


If it were America, I'd assume not and he's just going about freely and exercising his right to freedom of expression, be it as part of a comedy act, odd behaviour or him just being himself.

If done in the UK I'm less certain, I think he could come a cropper in relation to public order offences or causing distress to others and/or minorities.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: garbon on February 11, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 11, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Has this man done anything wrong with regard to Austrian laws?


If it were America, I'd assume not and he's just going about freely and exercising his right to freedom of expression, be it as part of a comedy act, odd behaviour or him just being himself.

If done in the UK I'm less certain, I think he could come a cropper in relation to public order offences or causing distress to others and/or minorities.

That last sentence in article might be where authorities are thinking.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: mongers on February 11, 2017, 03:41:36 PM
Quote from: garbon on February 11, 2017, 03:33:21 PM
Quote from: mongers on February 11, 2017, 03:26:32 PM
Has this man done anything wrong with regard to Austrian laws?


If it were America, I'd assume not and he's just going about freely and exercising his right to freedom of expression, be it as part of a comedy act, odd behaviour or him just being himself.

If done in the UK I'm less certain, I think he could come a cropper in relation to public order offences or causing distress to others and/or minorities.

That last sentence in article might be where authorities are thinking.

But that would seem very tenuous, he's 'depicting' himself as hitler like, but not actively doing anything to promote or glorify Hitler or Nazism. Which might suggest he's well aware of the law and intentionally sailing close to the line and not crossing it.

I think it's quite likely he's a satirist rather than a run of the mill neo-nazi or someone mentally unbalanced. 


edit:

Perhaps in German they'd take a harder line, where even the depiction of the swastika is highly regulated.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Josquius on February 11, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
Did you read Look Who's Back,  Mongers?  :lol:
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: mongers on February 11, 2017, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: Tyr on February 11, 2017, 03:59:57 PM
Did you read Look Who's Back,  Mongers?  :lol:

:lol:

The browser I was using doesn't show most of the images posted on the forum, don't know why, I have to go home and use firefox to see them, so I've only just seen that.  :blush:
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 11, 2017, 05:38:10 PM
Shady's back?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Capetan Mihali on February 11, 2017, 10:33:16 PM
He's ruining the good name of professional Hitler impersonators everywhere.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Syt on February 14, 2017, 03:13:17 AM
Well, they found and arrested him.

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Prosecutors will now see if charges will be pressed and whether kinda looking like Hitler is a violation about Austrian laws re: nazisma nd nazi symbols in public.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Syt on February 14, 2017, 03:22:00 AM
Though it probably doesn't help that he introduced himself to people as "Harald (Harry) Hitler."
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Maladict on February 14, 2017, 03:25:44 AM
He could have at least shot himself to evade capture.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: grumbler on February 14, 2017, 07:41:00 AM
Quote from: Syt on February 14, 2017, 03:22:00 AM
Though it probably doesn't help that he introduced himself to people as "Harald (Harry) Hitler."

Yeah, that's gotta be against the law, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
So what did the other members of the Hitler family have to do? Did everybody change their name to Schneider?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Caliga on February 14, 2017, 09:36:33 AM
Hitler had two nephews who ended up changing their last names to Stuart-Houston (sp?) and lived on Long Island IIRC.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Syt on February 14, 2017, 09:38:45 AM
He also had a sister who died in 1960: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Hitler
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on February 14, 2017, 10:57:54 AM
Good job he wasn't called Schmidt, the jails would be overflowing  :hmm:
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on February 14, 2017, 10:57:54 AM
Good job he wasn't called Schmidt, the jails would be overflowing  :hmm:


Yeah. I guess Hitler was a really rare surname?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: DontSayBanana on February 14, 2017, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
So what did the other members of the Hitler family have to do? Did everybody change their name to Schneider?

Some changed their name, and IIRC, most, if not all, his surviving relatives made a pact to let the bloodline die.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: PJL on February 14, 2017, 02:01:23 PM
I wonder if the Trumps will end up doing the same....
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 02:01:53 PM
I was mainly referring to people who were not closely related to him at all. I mean not everybody named 'Johnson' is closely related.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Zanza on February 14, 2017, 02:11:08 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 11:26:00 AM
Yeah. I guess Hitler was a really rare surname?
Yes. His father was the first to use it as a lastname among his relatives. Their ancestors spelled the name Hiedler.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 02:26:09 PM
I see. That was a lucky break for all the Hiedlers out there.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
How common are other tainted names, like Himmler, Goebbels, etc.?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Syt on February 14, 2017, 02:33:05 PM
We had a teacher called Göring in our town.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Zanza on February 14, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
How common are other tainted names, like Himmler, Goebbels, etc.?
A few hundred each in the German telephone book (which only has landlines, not mobile phones).
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Zanza on February 14, 2017, 02:51:14 PM
The current female lead of the Green Party is called Katrin Göring-Eckardt.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Eddie Teach on February 14, 2017, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 14, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
How common are other tainted names, like Himmler, Goebbels, etc.?
A few hundred each in the German telephone book (which only has landlines, not mobile phones).

All of Germany in one book?  :huh:
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: PJL on February 15, 2017, 02:27:42 PM
I wonder how common Mussolini's are in Italy.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on February 15, 2017, 03:26:26 PM
I had a couple of mates who were called Mosley back in my school days. But they were Jewish  :hmm:
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Delirium on February 15, 2017, 06:33:40 PM
Alonzo?
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Razgovory on February 15, 2017, 06:39:20 PM
My Grandmother's maiden name was Hess. 
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Richard Hakluyt on February 15, 2017, 07:33:07 PM
Quote from: Delirium on February 15, 2017, 06:33:40 PM
Alonzo?

Was thinking of Oswald

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oswald_Mosley

Ok, he was a bit of a joke, but maybe he would have been our Quisling under different circumstances.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: CountDeMoney on February 15, 2017, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: Delirium on February 15, 2017, 06:33:40 PM
Alonzo?

:D
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Archy on February 17, 2017, 06:06:36 AM
I'm wondering about Degrelle over here and Mussert in the Netherlands.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Maladict on February 17, 2017, 06:22:22 AM
Quote from: DontSayBanana on February 14, 2017, 01:59:55 PM
Quote from: Valmy on February 14, 2017, 09:12:16 AM
So what did the other members of the Hitler family have to do? Did everybody change their name to Schneider?

Some changed their name, and IIRC, most, if not all, his surviving relatives made a pact to let the bloodline die.

I think that's a myth, about the pact.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Maladict on February 17, 2017, 06:24:11 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
How common are other tainted names, like Himmler, Goebbels, etc.?

One of my teachers was called Göbbels. He was not amused when people used the 'oe' version or pronounced it in a German way.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Josquius on February 17, 2017, 06:44:11 AM
I have to say I even cringed a little when I met a German called Heinrich
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Maladict on February 17, 2017, 07:18:23 AM
Quote from: Archy on February 17, 2017, 06:06:36 AM
I'm wondering about Degrelle over here and Mussert in the Netherlands.

Mussert 1947: 133
Mussert 2007: 92
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Archy on February 17, 2017, 06:06:36 AM
I'm wondering about Degrelle over here and Mussert in the Netherlands.

No love for Staf de Clercq and van de Wiele? :(
Degrelle's biggest victory!  :D
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Delirium on February 17, 2017, 10:26:36 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 15, 2017, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: Delirium on February 15, 2017, 06:33:40 PM
Alonzo?

:D

Impressive!
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Zanza on February 17, 2017, 11:31:22 AM
Quote from: Eddie Teach on February 14, 2017, 04:14:03 PM
Quote from: Zanza on February 14, 2017, 02:49:20 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 14, 2017, 02:29:22 PM
How common are other tainted names, like Himmler, Goebbels, etc.?
A few hundred each in the German telephone book (which only has landlines, not mobile phones).

All of Germany in one book?  :huh:
It's not a physical book, but a website. No scribes allowed!
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: Archy on February 21, 2017, 02:51:13 AM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on February 17, 2017, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Archy on February 17, 2017, 06:06:36 AM
I'm wondering about Degrelle over here and Mussert in the Netherlands.

No love for Staf de Clercq and van de Wiele? :(
Degrelle's biggest victory!  :D
According to Hitler he was the only useful Belgian so yeah.

I found the numbers for the Belgians
Degrelle 98 in 2008
De clercq 1 in 2008 (this variant is almost dead, surpinsingly  since de Clerk, Clerck and such are very common)
Van De Wielle 369 in 2008 (to be honest never heard of him)
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: celedhring on February 21, 2017, 03:35:31 AM
Franco is not an unusual Spanish surname. I know a few and it's not a "GOD YOU ARE NAMED LIKE THE DICTATOR" shocker.
Title: Re: Look who's back!
Post by: The Larch on February 21, 2017, 05:57:38 AM
Quote from: celedhring on February 21, 2017, 03:35:31 AM
Franco is not an unusual Spanish surname. I know a few and it's not a "GOD YOU ARE NAMED LIKE THE DICTATOR" shocker.

If they're named Francisco, though...  :lol:

Now, Primo de Rivera, that's a different business.