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Title: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 04:57:05 AM
:cheers:
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Viking on October 10, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
Now you can get it for social media presence?

Sigh... Well at least this one doesn't tarnish the prize and she did fight for something explicitly good; girls education.
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Post by: mongers on October 10, 2014, 06:23:02 AM
A deserving winner, I don't know much about the Indian activist she shares it with.


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Article here:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29564935 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29564935)


Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 08:20:27 AM
Good choice. Working for disadvantaged children is certainly worthy of recognition and the peace prize seems fitting for that.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 08:52:58 AM
I read an article about Kailash Satyarthi now and it sounds like he deserves every accolade possible. He seems to be a good man successfully working towards a noble goal.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
Kid's got a bright future, I think.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Liep on October 10, 2014, 09:06:04 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
Kid's got a bright future, I think.

Judging by her track record it'll be a short one too.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: garbon on October 10, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
So what is more irrelevant - the Peace Prize or the UN? :unsure:
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Maximus on October 10, 2014, 09:12:29 AM
Well, IIRC the peace prize comes with a million bucks.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Maladict on October 10, 2014, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 10, 2014, 09:06:04 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
Kid's got a bright future, I think.

Judging by her track record it'll be a short one too.

She has probably already done more than I ever will. :(
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Liep on October 10, 2014, 09:13:32 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 10, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
So what is more irrelevant - the Peace Prize or the UN? :unsure:

The UN has the power to be irrelevant in more areas than the Peace Prize.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: garbon on October 10, 2014, 09:13:36 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 10, 2014, 09:12:29 AM
Well, IIRC the peace prize comes with a million bucks.

So both are highly relevant from those that can make a living from them. Call that a draw on that front then.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 09:13:47 AM
Quote from: Maladict on October 10, 2014, 09:12:47 AM
Quote from: Liep on October 10, 2014, 09:06:04 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
Kid's got a bright future, I think.

Judging by her track record it'll be a short one too.

She has probably already done more than I ever will. :(
than all of us.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: Maximus on October 10, 2014, 09:12:29 AM
Well, IIRC the peace prize comes with a million bucks.

Wow...in Afghanistan that's like 10 million bucks. Party!
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Viking on October 10, 2014, 09:15:22 AM
Quote from: garbon on October 10, 2014, 09:11:11 AM
So what is more irrelevant - the Peace Prize or the UN? :unsure:

I'd say the UN, simply because the UN got a peace prize, while the peace prize doesn't have a UN.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 11:11:05 AM
Quote from: Josephus on October 10, 2014, 08:53:50 AM
Kid's got a bright future, I think.

I dunno,  even with the Nobel, Harvard's going to have a problem with a lack of extracurricular activities.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.

Very true, but specialized agencies quietly doing things that are important don't make for a convenient scapegoat or target of mockery and so is not interesting to the general languish crowd.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.

Very true, but specialized agencies quietly doing things that are important don't make for a convenient scapegoat or target of mockery and so is not interesting to the general languish crowd.

Yeah. I'm all for bashing the UN when it is ineffective or the Nobel Peace Prize committee for giving it to unworthy people, but this time Malala really deserves it and is an inspiration, and the UN is doing a lot of worthy things not to deserve to be dismissed en bloc.

I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.

Very true, but specialized agencies quietly doing things that are important don't make for a convenient scapegoat or target of mockery and so is not interesting to the general languish crowd.

Too many Bangladeshi blue helmets hiding in the Appalachians ready to swoop down and take derspiess's guns once Obama gives the word.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:48:58 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 10, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
Now you can get it for social media presence?

This is a really shitty thing to say, viking.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Barrister on October 10, 2014, 12:52:23 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

Welcome back to Languish.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: The Minsky Moment on October 10, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

So which types of snarly dismissive bitchiness do you prefer?   :)
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 01:00:43 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 10, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

So which types of snarly dismissive bitchiness do you prefer?   :)

This is a relative preference, obviously, but one that does not talk shit about a young intelligent woman who got shot in the face for her convictions would rank higher on my personal list. :)
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 10, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

So which types of snarly dismissive bitchiness do you prefer?   :)

I'm fond of the kind that's funny. I don't mind the kind that makes a worthwhile point or takes the piss out of someone who deserves it.

... that's all subjective, of course :)
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 01:02:20 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 01:01:27 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 10, 2014, 12:59:29 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

So which types of snarly dismissive bitchiness do you prefer?   :)

I'm fond of the kind that's funny. I don't mind the kind that makes a worthwhile point or takes the piss out of someone who deserves it.

... that's all subjective, of course :)

I would agree with this view as well.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: derspiess on October 10, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Too many Bangladeshi blue helmets hiding in the Appalachians ready to swoop down and take derspiess's guns once Obama gives the word.

No shit :angry:
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: garbon on October 10, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: Martinus on October 10, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: Jacob on October 10, 2014, 11:14:29 AM
Quote from: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.

Very true, but specialized agencies quietly doing things that are important don't make for a convenient scapegoat or target of mockery and so is not interesting to the general languish crowd.

Yeah. I'm all for bashing the UN when it is ineffective or the Nobel Peace Prize committee for giving it to unworthy people, but this time Malala really deserves it and is an inspiration, and the UN is doing a lot of worthy things not to deserve to be dismissed en bloc.

I find this type of snarky dismissive bitchiness pretty shitty.

I think the Nobel Peace Prize committee already made sure that we shouldn't give a damn about who it gives its prizes too, no matter how worthy.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Viking on October 10, 2014, 04:42:54 PM
Quote from: Zanza on October 10, 2014, 10:20:44 AM
The UN has lots of specialized agencies that are quite relevant in their particular fields. It is more than the ineffectual security council.

The security council isn't completely useless, it's the General Assembly and Human Rights councils that re FUBAR.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: DGuller on October 10, 2014, 04:48:40 PM
I guess getting shot really worked out well for her. :blush:
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Ed Anger on October 10, 2014, 06:11:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 10, 2014, 01:32:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 12:45:06 PM
Too many Bangladeshi blue helmets hiding in the Appalachians ready to swoop down and take derspiess's guns once Obama gives the word.

No shit :angry:

Nobody wants to steal my guns.

MAH SKS

:(
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: grumbler on October 10, 2014, 07:22:54 PM
In reality, the peace prize should probably just be renamed the Medicins Sans Frontieres Prize and they should just be given the million dollars a year.  I would agree that this year's prizes are the exception, but generally the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, and MSF could use the cash.

Actually, they could bundle the Nobel Prize for Literature into the MSF Prize as well.  That's another complete joke, and MSF could put that million to better use, too.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: mongers on October 10, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
Quote from: grumbler on October 10, 2014, 07:22:54 PM
In reality, the peace prize should probably just be renamed the Medicins Sans Frontieres Prize and they should just be given the million dollars a year.  I would agree that this year's prizes are the exception, but generally the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke, and MSF could use the cash.

Actually, they could bundle the Nobel Prize for Literature into the MSF Prize as well.  That's another complete joke, and MSF could put that million to better use, too.

I'd go against that, anything that raises MSF's profile higher or makes it appear more connected 'officially' to world institutions is a bad idea, those people don't need to be doing their work whilst the bad guys are thinking  "hey those infidels/westerners work for the World Government/UN/NWA etc"

Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Razgovory on October 10, 2014, 07:42:52 PM
Quote from: Viking on October 10, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
Now you can get it for social media presence?

Sigh... Well at least this one doesn't tarnish the prize and she did fight for something explicitly good; girls education.

You're just bitter a Muslim got it.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: grumbler on October 10, 2014, 07:52:04 PM
Quote from: mongers on October 10, 2014, 07:39:11 PM
I'd go against that, anything that raises MSF's profile higher or makes it appear more connected 'officially' to world institutions is a bad idea, those people don't need to be doing their work whilst the bad guys are thinking  "hey those infidels/westerners work for the World Government/UN/NWA etc"
Actually, that's precisely the opposite of MSF's problem.  They are so widely trusted that infected people in Liberia would rather wait in line outside their clinics than get admitted immediately in non-MSF clinics.  NPR had a report on exactly that problem this morning.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
At the very least rename it the Good Deed Prize, or the Individual Bravery Prize.  It hasn't had a thing to do with peace since the Jew, the Arab, and the Cracker won it.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Razgovory on October 10, 2014, 09:15:50 PM
Obama is not an Arab.  How many times must we remind conservatives of this?
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
At the very least rename it the Good Deed Prize, or the Individual Bravery Prize.  It hasn't had a thing to do with peace since the Jew, the Arab, and the Cracker won it.

Cracker?  Well I am offended how dare you...wait which one was the Cracker?  Peres or Rabin?
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 09:38:57 PM
Jimmy Earl
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 09:54:02 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 09:38:57 PM
Jimmy Earl

Huh.  What year was this exactly?
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
I'm thinking of Camp David.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 10:31:16 PM
Ah.  Jimmy didn't get one for that, he got one years later for...some reason or another.  Disliking President Bush I think.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 10, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
Quote from: Valmy on October 10, 2014, 10:31:16 PM
Ah.  Jimmy didn't get one for that, he got one years later for...some reason or another.  Disliking President Bush I think.

For 20 years' work of not being President.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: Viking on October 11, 2014, 05:23:14 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
At the very least rename it the Good Deed Prize, or the Individual Bravery Prize.  It hasn't had a thing to do with peace since the Jew, the Arab, and the Cracker won it.

"the Arab"? Sadat and Arafat have both won the peace prize.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: celedhring on October 11, 2014, 05:36:46 AM
Deserved or not, the EU Nobel Prize was awarded for its role in continued peace in the continent - its western part at the very least.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 10, 2014, 07:56:09 PM
At the very least rename it the Good Deed Prize, or the Individual Bravery Prize.  It hasn't had a thing to do with peace since the Jew, the Arab, and the Cracker won it.

Gorby.
Title: Re: Malala wins the Peace Prize
Post by: CountDeMoney on October 13, 2014, 01:01:45 PM
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on October 13, 2014, 12:35:51 PM
Gorby.

It added so much more gravitas to his Pizza Hut commercial.