http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/brooklyn-teacher-forced-girls-sex-prosecutors-article-1.1958206
I guess this is one of those examples of how the gender a pedophile likes in adults doesn't match children. That and/or he's just a horny bastard.
QuoteHe is the vilest pervert teacher New York has ever seen.
A sex-crazed Brooklyn educator had intercourse with several female students, took them to sex clubs and nude beaches and handed out straight A's to a girl he was sleeping with, prosecutors said Tuesday.
The debauchery of Sean Shaynak, 44, came to light after the math and physics teacher at Brooklyn Technical High School was charged in August with sending a picture of his private parts to a 16-year-old student.
But that was only the beginning of the lurid misdeeds prosecutors accuse the divorced father of a 9-year-old daughter of carrying out. They include:
- Taking a 15-year-old to a nude beach in New Jersey without permission and plying her with vodka, tequila and whisky until she passed out at his home.
- Exchanging some 10,000 text messages with that same girl, in which he asked her to participate in lesbian sex with another student and told her about his experience with a ménage-à-trois and gay sex.
- Giving another student perfect grades "regardless of the fact she did not do any assignments and left tests blank," said prosecutor Joseph Mancino.
- Forcing himself on that 18-year-old student when she resisted his attempt at intercourse.
- Carrying on a "four-month sexual relationship" with yet another teen, which included a trip to an out-of-state gay-themed sex club where she watched him getting "serviced" by other men.
- Taking that student on what prosecutors described as a "terror ride" from Queens to Brooklyn that ended with her hiding in the bushes and her teacher screaming and banging on his car. "He threatened to tell her parents," Mancino said.
- Sending full-frontal photos to four students, two of whom were minors.
- Storing an extensive library of pornography in his computer, which included bestiality — sex acts between humans and dogs, horses and goats.
"It is shocking that a public high school teacher allegedly sexually preyed on vulnerable students," Brooklyn District Attorney Kenneth Thompson said in a statement.
The criminal conduct started in the fall of 2012 and continued through this summer, court papers say.
The teacher is facing 25 years in prison for the top charge in a 36-count indictment that accuses him of kidnapping, criminal sex act and other crimes — including obscenity, forcible touching and unlawful imprisonment — against a total of six girls, ages 13 to 19.
He's looking at a much longer potential penalty due to the multiple alleged incidents.
Shaynak, of Flatbush, has been teaching for five years at the Fort Greene high school attended by Mayor de Blasio's son Dante, although a student told The News that the famous student did not take classes with him.
Reactions at the school ranged from shocked to not surprised.
"Some people were aware of it. They said that they saw it coming, that he was a perv — the way he looked at girls," said Tangina Ahmed, 16, a junior at the school. "I find that really gross."
Others were taken aback by the allegations against the amateur pilot who used to work as a flight instructor before becoming a teacher and ran an aerospace after-school club.
The school's principal, Randy Asher, did not respond to a request for comment.
Defense lawyer Kimberly Summers pleaded not guilty on Shaynak's behalf when he was arraigned in Brooklyn Supreme Court.
"My client maintains his innocence on all these charges," she told the judge.
She claimed that one student "was working on a project with him, which would explain the voluminous text messages," and noted that he has a 9-year-old girl, which would give him incentive to return to court.
The teacher's bail was set at $1 million.
His brother is Hollywood actor Craig Shaynak, who has a recurring role in the Showtime TV drama "Ray Donovan" and has appeared in various other TV shows and on stage.
Craig Shaynak declined to comment. The defendant's sister also declined to speak.
Shaynak was initially charged with sending the full-frontal photo via the picture-sharing app Snapchat. A search warrant then unearthed a trove of incriminating evidence, sources said.
"These alleged actions are completely unacceptable and have no place in, or outside of, our schools," said Department of Education spokeswoman Devora Kaye. "He is not, and will not be, in contact with students. Student safety remains our top priority."
Shaynak had been previously assigned to the rubber room, and he continues to collect a $52,744-a-year salary.
"The details of this case are beyond words," said Campbell Brown, founder of the Partnership for Educational Justice, who is leading efforts to make it easier for the city to remove ineffective and dangerous teachers.
"The fact that our system continues to pay and even protect these predators — with many parents having no idea that their children are in danger — defies common sense."
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Hey, if you're going to live your dreams, live 'em hard.
When it's all said and done and he's convicted, he should get consideration from the court on imagination--after all, isn't that what it's all about: getting students engaged?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 01, 2014, 09:20:54 AM
isn't that what it's all about: getting students engaged?
Not to the teacher, though. :P
They always tell "it was shocking that a teacher/kids entertainment figure would do something like that" why? If you are a fucking pedo pervert, these occupations are exactly the ones you will want, as these put you in a power position over the kids you are hunting.
Quote from: Tamas on October 01, 2014, 09:53:25 AM
They always tell "it was shocking that a teacher/kids entertainment figure would do something like that" why? If you are a fucking pedo pervert, these occupations are exactly the ones you will want, as these put you in a power position over the kids you are hunting.
I'd guess most people assume they'll be given more scrutiny.
Quote from: Tamas on October 01, 2014, 09:53:25 AM
They always tell "it was shocking that a teacher/kids entertainment figure would do something like that" why? If you are a fucking pedo pervert, these occupations are exactly the ones you will want, as these put you in a power position over the kids you are hunting.
Because parents place an awful lot of trust in the school system and teachers. Apparently some of the students weren't particularly shocked with this guy, though.
In my high school days we had a couple male teachers that were clearly perving on female students. AFAIK they never actually *did* anything, but we wouldn't have been surprised if they had. What was a little surprising is that a few years ago the guy that had been my Junior High principal got caught with an underage girl. I thought he was just a douchebag, not necessarily a perv.
I wouldn't last a week as a high school teacher.
We had a case of a teacher "engaging" female students in this kind of way in my high-school. The girls were over the age of consent in Spain, so it wasn't a crime despite the dubious morality of it. They "invited" him to resign from his job but the worst part is that apparently he already had a story of it in the previous school he worked at.
Oh, and afterwards he inherited a small fortune and set up his own academy.
I encountered at least two teachers who had sex with students when I was going through school - one in my junior high (grades 7-8) school, and one in high school. Both were male teachers having sex with female students.
The one in junior high did stuff that, at the time, I found very odd, but I was so young I had no idea what was up; in hindsight, it is clear he was having an inappropriate relationship (at the least) with at least one female student. He had a pattern of this, and was fired after my time.
The one in high school made no secret of his partiality to the female students. He arranged his class so the girls were in front and the boys in back. He seemingly gave the good looking girls good marks that they did not otherwise earn, or so rumour had it. He coached the girl's baseball team, and would often take favoured players out to dinner. He was eventually forced to resign. We kids thought it was funny at the time that he was so obviously interested in the girls, but we were naive enough not to think he was actually having sex with some of them.
Neither was ever charged criminally as far as I know - the worst they faced was being forced to resign or being fired.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 01, 2014, 10:43:09 AM
I wouldn't last a week as a high school teacher.
You would've been replacing me, because I wouldn't last to Wednesday.
Quote from: derspiess on October 01, 2014, 10:26:20 AM
In my high school days we had a couple male teachers that were clearly perving on female students. AFAIK they never actually *did* anything, but we wouldn't have been surprised if they had. What was a little surprising is that a few years ago the guy that had been my Junior High principal got caught with an underage girl. I thought he was just a douchebag, not necessarily a perv.
We had a well-connected teacher who was always perving on 8th/9th grade girls. He eventually married one of his former students after she graduated.
We also had a gay teacher who was rumored to have been fired for making a pass at a student.
What's your position on this happening at uni, by the way? There were quite a few cases of teachers having relationships with female students at my uni; but all the girls were already over 18. One of my classmates ended up marrying one of our professors, 30 years her senior.
Banging undergrads is kind of pathetic. Banging grad students is expected.
Quote from: celedhring on October 01, 2014, 11:21:07 AM
What's your position on this happening at uni, by the way? There were quite a few cases of teachers having relationships with female students at my uni; but all the girls were already over 18. One of my classmates ended up marrying one of our professors, 30 years her senior.
I never thought it was that big of a problem, but speaking with several female interns over the summer, apparently there's a whole lot of professor fucking going on.
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
We had a well-connected teacher who was always perving on 8th/9th grade girls. He eventually married one of his former students after she graduated.
Getting disturbing how common this "toeing the line without actually breaking the law" perviness is turning out to be. One of the marching band directors at my high school ended up marrying one of his former students, too. Also, one of the supervisors at my last job married her teacher after dropping out, but she insisted that
she seduced
him.
Quote from: DontSayBanana on October 01, 2014, 12:24:55 PM
Quote from: garbon on October 01, 2014, 11:13:56 AM
We had a well-connected teacher who was always perving on 8th/9th grade girls. He eventually married one of his former students after she graduated.
Getting disturbing how common this "toeing the line without actually breaking the law" perviness is turning out to be. One of the marching band directors at my high school ended up marrying one of his former students, too. Also, one of the supervisors at my last job married her teacher after dropping out, but she insisted that she seduced him.
At the same time, we are talking people who voluntarily choose to hangout with young people for low pay, who also had to get an extra degree for the privilege. -_-
Quote from: garbon on October 02, 2014, 07:08:52 AM
At the same time, we are talking people who voluntarily choose to hangout with young people for low pay, who also had to get an extra degree for the privilege. -_-
Most, yeah (though in the past it was possible to just get a teacher's certification on top of a relevant subject matter degree). The band guy in particular was a subordinate and didn't actually have any teaching duties, so I don't think he had an education degree or even a teacher certification.
I don't give a shit whether or not it's a crime; the only crime here is it's simply not fair.
QuoteLouisiana Teachers Shelley Dufresne, Rachel Respess Charged In Student Sex Abuse Case
Two teachers at the same Louisiana high school have been charged in the sex abuse of the same male student, according to police.
Shelley Dufresne, 32, and Rachel Respess, 24, both teach at Destrehan High School in St. Charles Parish. They are each charged with one count of carnal knowledge of a juvenile, according to the St. Charles Herald Guide.
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WDSU quoted an unnamed source who implied that the victim was involved in a threesome with the teachers.
According to WGNO: Multiple sources say the student, then 16 and now 17, met the two teachers at the Kenner home where some of their sexual encounters were videotaped.
Investigators confirmed Wednesday that the encounter allegedly took place at Respess' apartment after a Destrehan football game Sept. 12, and that all three were together at the residence until early morning hours of the next day.
Dufresne, who has taught at the school for 10 years, was arrested Tuesday and released from St. Charles Parish jail on $200,000 bond later that night. According to WGNO, the mother of three is under house arrest, and is not allowed to leave her home except for continued intensive mental health treatment, doctors' appointments, and church.
Respass, who is in her second year teaching at the school, turned herself in on Wednesday.
Police began their investigation last Friday after educators learned that a male student had been "bragging to other students that he was having a sexual relationship with teachers," according to a St. Charles Sheriff's Office report.
WDSU reports that the teachers were put on paid leave last Friday after the allegations came to light.
Parents aren't taking the allegations lightly.
"Unfortunately as a parent of a son that attends Destrehan High School, it's a little overwhelming at times, and my son is taking it difficult as well, but I think the whole school is taking it difficultly," Destrehan High School parent Antonio Morales told WGNO. "When anything happens here at Destrehan, all of Destrehan suffers."
Quote"bragging to other students that he was having a sexual relationship with teachers,"
Dummy. Kept your mouth shut, you'd still be fucking right now. But nooooo...we have to be childish about it. :mad:
Poor kid.
Luckiest rape victim ever? :hmm:
So I am assuming these female teachers REALLY wanted to be fucked by the jocks back in their own high school days, but were too plain for it.
Unless they've had plastic surgery or lost weight, I don't see that.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 03, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
Unless they've had plastic surgery or lost weight, I don't see that.
Well there must be a psychological reason why they are after a subordinated teenage boy, football player or not.
Quote from: Tamas on October 03, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
Well there must be a psychological reason why they are after a subordinated teenage boy, football player or not.
Maybe it was the other way around and he was after them, and they're just weak willed? :)
Or maybe he's just such a handsome hunk that they couldn't resist?
Teacher chick 3some? Nice. :showoff:
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Quote from: Syt on October 03, 2014, 06:38:39 AM
Or maybe he's just such a handsome hunk that they couldn't resist?
Whatever the case they are idiots / predators.
Quote from: Tamas on October 03, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 03, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
Unless they've had plastic surgery or lost weight, I don't see that.
Well there must be a psychological reason why they are after a subordinated teenage boy, football player or not.
Have you *seen* some of these teenage boy football players???
You all talk about how hot the high school girls are, but the boys aren't anything to hide, either. I look at them and am like, "I don't remember that when I was in school. What happened??"
Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2014, 08:03:41 AM
Quote from: Syt on October 03, 2014, 06:38:39 AM
Or maybe he's just such a handsome hunk that they couldn't resist?
Whatever the case they are idiots / predators.
Absolutely. And I hope they both get some serious jail time.
Quote from: merithyn on October 03, 2014, 09:22:58 AM
Quote from: Tamas on October 03, 2014, 05:54:30 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on October 03, 2014, 05:50:53 AM
Unless they've had plastic surgery or lost weight, I don't see that.
Well there must be a psychological reason why they are after a subordinated teenage boy, football player or not.
Have you *seen* some of these teenage boy football players???
You all talk about how hot the high school girls are, but the boys aren't anything to hide, either. I look at them and am like, "I don't remember that when I was in school. What happened??"
I generally think most high schoolers look like children aka do not want. :x
Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2014, 09:27:52 AM
I generally think most high schoolers look like children aka do not want. :x
I generally do, too. There are some, however, (mostly seniors) who do not.
I should say that I don't find them sexually alluring. Just very pretty to look at. I think if any of them would ever come on to me, my response would be, "Oh, that's adorable!"
Quote from: merithyn on October 03, 2014, 09:29:33 AM
I think if any of them would ever come on to me, my response would be, "Oh, that's adorable!"
That's how psycho thrillers start. :P
Poor guy. I hope he wasn't too traumatized by the experience, and can still have healthy relationships without constant flashbacks. :(
Quote from: DGuller on October 03, 2014, 02:43:22 PM
Poor guy. I hope he wasn't too traumatized by the experience, and can still have healthy relationships without constant flashbacks. :(
So is it the who is doing the penetrating thing that garners different responses than if a girl was having sex with two male teachers? Like if it came out he'd been getting pegged by these teachers, would that make a difference?
I think there is a basic "predator" rating involved in the response to this stuff, where males have a 1 rating, and women a zero.
Therefore, a male student banging a female teacher is seen as pretty non-predatory, and if he is banging two? Hell, even less so.
If that same male student was banging one or two MALE teachers? That would NOT be seen as "hey lets all clap - good for him!". Hearing a male student was in a threesome with two male teachers? They are so going to jail forever. Two male teachers with a female student? Same. Nobody is clapping for her.
We aren't really willing to accept that there is a legal difference in statutory rape based on the genders involved, yet there clearly IS a difference in how we perceive it - I am willing to admit I see it as very different. I don't at all have the same emotional reaction to male student/female teacher. I don't think the law should be different, but I do very much believe (and I use that word carefully because I suspect I cannot back it up very well) that there is a very significant emotional difference most of the time.
How about if the male student was butt slamming a male teacher? :hmm:
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2014, 02:59:56 PM
I do very much believe (and I use that word carefully because I suspect I cannot back it up very well) that there is a very significant emotional difference most of the time.
Could be chicken and egg. We high-five the guy while telling the girl that she's been a victim.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
How about if the male student was butt slamming a male teacher? :hmm:
:unsure:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
How about if the male student was butt slamming a male teacher? :hmm:
Yeah, very different response - that strikes me as much more egregious, but I cannot really back that up with much reason. Surely a gay student can be just as willing as a straight one, right?
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
How about if the male student was butt slamming a male teacher? :hmm:
Yeah, very different response - that strikes me as much more egregious, but I cannot really back that up with much reason. Surely a gay student can be just as willing as a straight one, right?
Yeah, but ick.
People's outrage over sex crimes is indirectly proportional to how the crime lines up with their own fantasies :P
In any case that kid just sent those ladies to prison. Granted they SHOULD go to prison but pretty fucked up if he really was willing. That's gratitude for you.
Quote from: garbon on October 03, 2014, 03:03:24 PM
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2014, 02:59:56 PM
I do very much believe (and I use that word carefully because I suspect I cannot back it up very well) that there is a very significant emotional difference most of the time.
Could be chicken and egg. We high-five the guy while telling the girl that she's been a victim.
I think it's the same social psychology behind how, in general, a woman who sleeps with many different partners is "a slut", while a male who does the same is often considered commendable, or certainly not negative (at most maybe as "a dog", but that has nowhere near the same negative context as "a slut").
For the gay community, I think the perception is that they all sleep around constantly, and it is simply to be expected. :P
The slut thing pisses me off. It is misgyny and misandry rolled into one big shit sandwich to be force fed to society.
Quote from: Berkut on October 03, 2014, 03:34:09 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 03, 2014, 03:01:15 PM
How about if the male student was butt slamming a male teacher? :hmm:
Yeah, very different response - that strikes me as much more egregious, but I cannot really back that up with much reason. Surely a gay student can be just as willing as a straight one, right?
That's the interesting part, isn't it? A teenaged boy can be willing - straight or gay - but a teenaged girl is a victim, and therefore can never be willing. At least in how it's all perceived.
I have an issue with any adult in an authority role having sex with one of their charges. Regardless of how willing the child/teen is, the situation is inherently bad for them. And it shows a serious lack of respect from the adult for the role that they're in. The genders in all of this are irrelevant. It's a balance of power thing.
But the perception is still, in 2014, that girls don't want sex and are coerced where as boys are willing participants. (Unless it's gay sex, then girls are willing participants and boys are coerced. Which I don't get.)
Meri and I are of one mind on this. Chicago train debate called off.
Quote from: merithyn on October 03, 2014, 11:58:02 PM
But the perception is still, in 2014, that girls don't want sex and are coerced where as boys are willing participants. (Unless it's gay sex, then girls are willing participants and boys are coerced. Which I don't get.)
I think the perception is that when the male is in the authority position he is coercing, but when the female is in the authority position she is enticing. The former is viewed more negatively than the latter. Also fits with the stereotype that sexual predators are creepy, middle-aged white men.
:mad:
Quote from: The Brain on October 05, 2014, 11:22:15 AM
:mad:
He meant "creepy white men in their
prime". :console:
Those two women were ugly.