Which is the biggest group of immigrants in your town?
In keerbergen, my town, it are the Dutch coming to live here for tax reasons
IN Edmonton, it's the same as a lot of other places - Chinese.
Wait, are we talking immigrants or minority?
Poland
Turkey
Sweden (included Slargos for a while)
Iraq
Vietnam
Germany
Iran
(all these groups have more than half the number of the poles).
No idea. I'd guess for London as a whole Indian - but there's lots of groups within that nationality. For Southward I couldn't even guess. Maybe Spanish - it's the second most spoken language but there's a lot of Latin Americans here too so :mellow:
In Copenhagen it's definitely Jutes.
According to the latest census 5% of Cincinnati is foreign-born but that seems high. I know people from all over Latin America are here, but we don't have many migrants from Mexico or Central America. If I had to guess, I'd say Indian.
Mexicans.
Apparently in 2011, most of New York's immigrant population was from Dominican Republic followed closely by China.
(South) Asians.
But by 'biggest minority' I mean probably less than 20 or 30 people.
Today I was talking to some people I knew at a shop in town and we noticed an Arab couple was also in the shop. I couldn't help but exclaim "Wow. Don't normally see them around here". As I've mentioned before this town is so white we literally have a village black guy.
Its hard to tell which non-white people live in town and which only work here.
Fuck if I know. Possibly Indians.
Quote from: Sheilbh on July 31, 2014, 04:40:44 PM
No idea. I'd guess for London as a whole Indian - but there's lots of groups within that nationality. For Southward I couldn't even guess. Maybe Spanish - it's the second most spoken language but there's a lot of Latin Americans here too so :mellow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London
Black african actually. I would have guessed Irish or Scots though...
If I had to guess either Portuguese or Argentinians.
There was a nice map on the internet somewhere about most spoken languages after in English in the various London boroughs.
Londoners (white). <_<
Quote from: mongers on July 31, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
Londoners (white). <_<
So it's the fancy city folk that look bewildered when you're reading maps?
Quote from: derspiess on July 31, 2014, 04:41:40 PM
According to the latest census 5% of Cincinnati is foreign-born but that seems high. I know people from all over Latin America are here, but we don't have many migrants from Mexico or Central America. If I had to guess, I'd say Indian.
Apparently 20% of people living in Canada are foreign born.
They were born in Quebec?
Indians, 10.3% apparently.
Quote from: Liep on July 31, 2014, 04:48:51 PM
Quote from: mongers on July 31, 2014, 04:46:57 PM
Londoners (white). <_<
So it's the fancy city folk that look bewildered when you're reading maps?
:lol:
No, I think it's most people, I guess there's now an in-build assumption that you should adopt new technology without question.
Were as I'm not actually lost or wanting to find where I'm going, if I'm looking at a map, it's generally looking at the topography and obscure archaeological features in the landscape.
Filipinos.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 31, 2014, 05:02:18 PM
Indians, 10.3% apparently.
Isn't it nice to know how many Indians actually wanted to remain as subjects of the British?
american indians - 2.9%
Poors
In HK, Pakistanis.
Quote from: PRC on July 31, 2014, 05:06:02 PM
Filipinos.
PRetty sure it's Chinese in Calgary (though plenty of Filipinos to be sure).
Quote from: LaCroix on July 31, 2014, 05:14:50 PM
american indians - 2.9%
They're not immigrants. :contract:
In the late 90s, about 400,000 Ukranians moved to my country; roughly 300,000 of them settled in my city.
As before it had 600,000 inhabitants, very suddenly 1/3 of the population was Ukranian. The official announcements for stuff from the City Hall and local districts started to have to be affixed on the walls in both Portuguese and Ukranian.
We got along quite well, though the Ukranians were plaged by their mafia (if you saw a fancy car with several dudes sleeing inside, those would be ukranian mobsters, waiting to get their 'cut' from the ukranian workers' paychecks at the end of the day).
Eventually most moved on, leaving just 60,000 behind (about 40,000 of which in my city).
Secondary would be Cape Verdians and Angolans.
Integration is not an issue, though the Angolans bring their internal problems with them; they are evenly split among the support of their dictator-president Eduardo dos Santos, and sometimes it happens that some dozens of them die in, shall we say, freak accidents that are man-made (once I had to go to work over rows of dead bodies, as my company at the time was close to an Angolan disco that had been the unfortunate target of the President's henchmen the night before).
In my neighbourhood, which is among the best in town, we have an almost equal ratio of Portuguese/Cantonese/Goans living here, since at least the 70s. All went well, until in the 90s some Cape Verdian families moved in. We suddenly had a spike in violent crime, which forced the three original groups to form vigilante task forces to patrol the area until we pushed the Africans out in less than a year.
All has since gone well here (only an Angolan family moved in [to my building, no less], but they're upper-class and well-behaved, even if they have a TON of kids. And decided that they wanted the bathroom to be in the middle of the bedroom [!].
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
Poors
Which town, Mittens? Here or the one in France?
Anyway, pretty sure out largest minority is left-handers.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 31, 2014, 06:26:02 PM
Anyway, pretty sure out largest minority is left-handers.
In Baltimore, it's probably Caucasians.
My home town's biggest minority is the Portuguese
Quote from: CountDeMoney on July 31, 2014, 06:25:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2014, 05:20:03 PM
Poors
Which town, Mittens? Here or the one in France?
You should be happy today. The market was down 300 points.
I don't know. If I had to guess, Mexicans.
The plurality of people in Louisville are German-Americans.
Largest minority group would be African-Americans.
In terms of immigrants, not 100% sure but I would bet money on it being Mexicans. We also have sizable Vietnamese and Cuban immigrant communities.
Greenies :mad:
Ko-reans.
Although Ukrainian orphans are running a close second.
The top 5 in Vienna (not counting 2nd generation):
Serbs (5.4%)
Turks (4.3%)
Germans (2.9%)
Poles (2.6%)
Bosnians (2.2%)
Total 1st generation immigrants: 34.6%
Quote from: Liep on July 31, 2014, 04:41:26 PM
In Copenhagen it's definitely Jutes.
The Eternal Jute. :(
Quote from: Ed Anger on July 31, 2014, 06:34:07 PM
You should be happy today. The market was down 300 points.
Not even a hiccup.
Romanians by far. Though I don't know if figures include all foreign born or just foreigners.
In Barcelona is Italians by far. However a very large part of those Italians are actually Argentinians with an Italian passport.
Pakistanese are second, Chinese third.
Can't get stats for central Paris i.e intra muros- (2.5 million people) I guess it's Portuguese, but not by much. In the theoretical Groß/Metro Paris area (10-12 million people), it is Algerians (280,000) , then Portuguese (240,000), then Moroccans (220,000) followed by Tunisians (105,000). Figures for people born outside of France though.
PS: found some old stats, for 1999
Portuguese 38 k
Algerians 32 k
Moroccans 22 k
Tunisians 18 k
Spaniards 15 k
Italians 10 k
I would say that 1999 the numbers of "old" EU members decreased while North Africans and Turks increased.
There's a massive established Turkish population in Enfield, but for first-generation immigrants it's Poles by a mile. Census summary follows:
QuoteData taken from the 2012 GLA estimates tell us that, whilst two fifths (40.05%) of residents regard themselves as 'White British' or 'White Irish', there are also a large number of individuals declaring themselves as:
Black African - 9.83%
Turkish - 6.68%
Black Caribbean 5.81%
White Other - 5.03%
Greek Cypriot - 4.88%
Black Other - 4.26%
Indian - 3.16%
Turkish Cypriot - 1.91%
Bangladeshi - 1.79%
Kurdish - 1.31%
Greek - 0.91%
Pakistani - 0.84%
QuoteThe most commonly spoken language in Enfield after English was Turkish. A total of 18.378 people stated that this was their main language. This is equivalent to approximately 6.2% of people aged 3 and above. The next most commonly spoken main languages were Polish, with 5,837 speakers (2.0%), Greek with 4,627 (1.6%), Somali with 3,127 (1.1%) and Bengali with 2,594 (0.9%).
Quote from: Valmy on July 31, 2014, 05:06:57 PM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on July 31, 2014, 05:02:18 PM
Indians, 10.3% apparently.
Isn't it nice to know how many Indians actually wanted to remain as subjects of the British?
They are a pretty good bunch in Preston, mainly from Gujerat. Place of origin is pretty important for immigrants from the sub-continent, probably the most important determinant of how well they do when they get here.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
Place of origin is pretty important for immigrants from the sub-continent, probably the most important determinant of how well they do when they get here.
From what I can tell, that doesn't seem to matter much for those that come here. They pretty much all do well.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
They are a pretty good bunch in Preston, mainly from Gujerat. Place of origin is pretty important for immigrants from the sub-continent, probably the most important determinant of how well they do when they get here.
Really? Explain.
When I was at the park last weekend celebrating Henry's second birthday there was a really serious Cricket match going on between Indian immigrants one field over. They had a score board and stands with fans and uniforms and the whole deal. They were playing when we got there and were still going strong four hours later when we left. No word if they had reached the tea interval.
Quote from: Valmy on August 01, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
They are a pretty good bunch in Preston, mainly from Gujerat. Place of origin is pretty important for immigrants from the sub-continent, probably the most important determinant of how well they do when they get here.
Really? Explain.
When I was at the park last weekend celebrating Henry's second birthday there was a really serious Cricket match going on between Indian immigrants one field over. They had a score board and stands with fans and uniforms and the whole deal. They were playing when we got there and were still going strong four hours later when we left. No word if they had reached the tea interval.
"Cricket is an Indian Game invented by the English."
They take it very seriously and Cricket is by far the largest sport in that country. They play it with all the colour, noise, confusion and passion their country has.
Quote from: Valmy on August 01, 2014, 09:21:26 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 08:26:55 AM
They are a pretty good bunch in Preston, mainly from Gujerat. Place of origin is pretty important for immigrants from the sub-continent, probably the most important determinant of how well they do when they get here.
Really? Explain.
When I was at the park last weekend celebrating Henry's second birthday there was a really serious Cricket match going on between Indian immigrants one field over. They had a score board and stands with fans and uniforms and the whole deal. They were playing when we got there and were still going strong four hours later when we left. No word if they had reached the tea interval.
Excellent news about the cricket :cool:
Some groups of people from South Asia were imported into Britain as cheap labour for declining industries. These were often badly-educated people from backward places like Mirpur and Sylhet. The declining industries closed but the immigrants remained, lots of these people still send back for spouses from home and integration is minimal. On the other hand you have a lot of medical professionals, small businessmen and the like coming in........probably more akin to the Indians immigrating to the UK that derspiess mentions. Another related group are the East African Asians who have done brilliantly here despite arriving with nothing.
I believe that the Bangladeshis in London are starting to do quite well nowadays, perhaps mainly due to a huge improvement in the quality of state education there. Meanwhile the situation of people of Pakistani origin in dead Lancashire mill towns is pitiful.
Yanquis.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
Excellent news about the cricket :cool:
Yeah talk about things I never thought I would see in Texas :lol:
QuoteSome groups of people from South Asia were imported into Britain as cheap labour for declining industries. These were often badly-educated people from backward places like Mirpur and Sylhet. The declining industries closed but the immigrants remained, lots of these people still send back for spouses from home and integration is minimal. On the other hand you have a lot of medical professionals, small businessmen and the like coming in........probably more akin to the Indians immigrating to the UK that derspiess mentions. Another related group are the East African Asians who have done brilliantly here despite arriving with nothing.
I believe that the Bangladeshis in London are starting to do quite well nowadays, perhaps mainly due to a huge improvement in the quality of state education there. Meanwhile the situation of people of Pakistani origin in dead Lancashire mill towns is pitiful.
Yeah we never import poor Indians for labor so we do not have this problem (our labor sneaks in and we pretend we do not want them). I was just interested how you remarked there are regional differences.
I believe Puerto Ricans are the largest immigrant group in this part of Florida; but people come here from all over Latin America. There's also a sizable community of Arabs; mostly from Saudi Arabia.
In Detroit the largest group is Arabs, mostly from Iraq. Iraqis are so prevalent that any Christian from the Middle East is called a "Chaldean" even though many living there are, in fact, Maronites.
So that is where all the Christians in Iraq went? Detroit? They were just trying to find a place as war torn and desolate as their homeland I guess.
Quote from: Valmy on August 01, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
So that is where all the Christians in Iraq went? Detroit? They were just trying to find a place as war torn and desolate as their homeland I guess.
That joke works better with the Lebanese; many who came to Detroit in the 1970s as refugees from the civil war.
;)
Quote from: Savonarola on August 01, 2014, 11:26:33 AM
I believe Puerto Ricans are the largest immigrant group in this part of Florida; but people come here from all over Latin America. There's also a sizable community of Arabs; mostly from Saudi Arabia.
In Detroit the largest group is Arabs, mostly from Iraq. Iraqis are so prevalent that any Christian from the Middle East is called a "Chaldean" even though many living there are, in fact, Maronites.
Though that figure did decline a while back by around 17.
But seriously, what is it with Saudis living abroad, do we mainly see just the very wealthy and/or the corrupt ones?
Do ordinary, common or garden Saudis have the opportunity and finances to emigrate abroad?
At the local amusement park, Arabs & Indians seem to be the most conspicuous foreign group. You see Mexicans here & there, but you really notice the Indian women swimming in full clothing at the water park area.
Yeah when we went to Sea World a few weeks back it was totally overrun by Indians. I mean to an extent that is bizarre for Texas where they are like 3% of the population. Who knew Indians loved sea animals so much?
Poles, Lithuanians, Spaniards and Kurds, really. Some Somalis, but I believe the biggest non-European lot are Karen from Burma. And they're all wankers.
Ultra-Christian, skateboarding fucktards.
The Arab filth in Montreal I'm afraid. We were looking for french speaking immigrants - but their gods dammned death cult & dark age culture were overlooked. :glare:
G.
Quote from: Norgy on August 01, 2014, 06:49:35 PM
Poles, Lithuanians, Spaniards and Kurds, really. Some Somalis, but I believe the biggest non-European lot are Karen from Burma. And they're all wankers.
Ultra-Christian, skateboarding fucktards.
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Obviously Mexicans, then I guess the Chinese students at the U. Funkiest minority is a gaggle of South Sudanese.
I met a Moroccan dude at the boozer. Especially after he's had a few beverages his accent sounds exactly like a Quebecois.
Where I grew up, it was definitely white...being a typical white, upper-class suburbia (just outside Seattle)and retirees. but now? Here is the recent demographic data from my old elementary school....
2009 2010 2011 2012 2013
Enrollment 581 597 601 582 564
African American 1% 2% 1% 1% 1%
Asian 50% 51% 58% 60% 59%
Hispanic 1% 1% 1% 1% 2%
White 35% 37% 31% 30% 29%
Multi-Ethnic 12% 12% 9% 8% 9%
And there was a news story not long ago about Chinese snapping up the high-price homes in my parent's neighborhood.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
I believe that the Bangladeshis in London are starting to do quite well nowadays, perhaps mainly due to a huge improvement in the quality of state education there. Meanwhile the situation of people of Pakistani origin in dead Lancashire mill towns is pitiful.
Yep. The London state education thing is really interesting and a little weird.
But I think Pakistani and Bengali-origin kids have made the biggest jump. Now bottom of the class are white working class boys (who've been overtaken by Black Caribbean boys), but even then they do far better in London schools than the rest of the country.
Quote from: Sheilbh on August 02, 2014, 10:51:06 AM
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on August 01, 2014, 10:31:07 AM
I believe that the Bangladeshis in London are starting to do quite well nowadays, perhaps mainly due to a huge improvement in the quality of state education there. Meanwhile the situation of people of Pakistani origin in dead Lancashire mill towns is pitiful.
Yep. The London state education thing is really interesting and a little weird.
But I think Pakistani and Bengali-origin kids have made the biggest jump. Now bottom of the class are white working class boys (who've been overtaken by Black Caribbean boys), but even then they do far better in London schools than the rest of the country.
I cannot claim to understand why the state education system in London has improved so much, but the fact that it has is tremendously cheering. If we can do it there then we can do it anywhere.