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Title: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 06:35:34 PM
Why did the author feel the need to state they are human children? :yeahright:

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/human-tide-children-sweeps-across-u-s-borders-n128966
QuoteHuman Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
By Mark Potter and Kerry Sanders

As he parried questions from senators Wednesday about the flood of children flowing into the U.S. from Central America, the secretary of homeland security reminded Americans that the surge is more than just a political crisis — it's also a humanitarian crisis.

So many children are flowing across the Mexican border into Texas without their parents that government facilities are overwhelmed trying to process them all, Jeh Johnson said at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing.

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Almost 50,000 unaccompanied children have illegally moved into the U.S. through the Rio Grande Valley since October, according to government statistics. Most of them are from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador.

Recently, 14 children who were helped into the country by three adults, including a 5-year-old girl, crossed a dam near the Rio Grande after having traveled almost 1,000 miles from El Salvador.

Instead of dispersing to safety somewhere in the Southwest, they promptly turned themselves in to U.S. authorities, who could, for now, protect them from deadly violence and poverty at home.

Border Surge: Children Caught Crossing Into Texas
Nightly News

"The maras gang is killing our children," Dora Hidalgo told NBC News. "That's why I escaped with my son."

The maras are thuggish gangs — some of which, like the infamous MS-13, or Mara Salvatrucha, began in the U.S. before spreading south to Central America — that traffic in drugs, arms and human beings.

A relative of one of the 14 children who crossed near the Rio Grande dam told NBC News his parents paid a smuggler more than $8,000 to keep their child out of the hands of the maras, which aggressively recruit new members among middle and high school students, according to the FBI.

Some families have been drawn here by rumors that the U.S. is letting women and children into the country. That's what led Roxanna Lopez, 20, of Guatemala to travel with her son to the border at McAllen, Texas — where even legal immigration often tops 300 people a day.

Lopez told NBC News she paid smugglers everything she had because she'd heard that all women and children were welcome,

U.S. officials say that isn't necessarily true. But their proclamations haven't stopped the surge.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Really? A tide? Sweeping?
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: 11B4V on June 11, 2014, 07:07:19 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.

They work for cheap.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: dps on June 11, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 06:35:34 PM
Why did the author feel the need to state they are human children? :yeahright:


He didn't.  He used the common-enough phrase "a human tide" and modified it with the phrase "of children".

And to think, you're teaching English.  God help South Korea.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Phillip V on June 11, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.
Their parents, but not the children.

IIRC, illegal children can and do attend American public schools. (?)

I say give them citizenship after 8 years of service in the American military.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 11, 2014, 09:05:10 PM
We're already turning away citizens from recruiting offices I believe.

Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Josquius on June 11, 2014, 09:15:20 PM
I wonder, in the US do you get many adults claiming to be kids for asylum purposes?
Hell.... I don't think I've ever heard much about asylum seekers in the us.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 09:19:30 PM
Quote from: dps on June 11, 2014, 07:39:15 PM
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 11, 2014, 06:35:34 PM
Why did the author feel the need to state they are human children? :yeahright:


He didn't.  He used the common-enough phrase "a human tide" and modified it with the phrase "of children".

And to think, you're teaching English.  God help South Korea.
It sounds awkward to me.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2014, 10:33:34 PM
I agree, Tim. Human does seem like a bit of an exaggeration in this case.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Eddie Teach on June 11, 2014, 10:40:24 PM
I'm pretty sure most of these children are in fact illegal aliens.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Jaron on June 11, 2014, 10:41:42 PM
 :area52:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Really? A tide? Sweeping?

Other options:

"a lot of children" not poetic enough
"a gang of children" are you calling latinos gang members? are you racist?
"a mass of children" draws parallels between hispanic children and cancer invading the US body politic. also racist.
"a mob of children" racist
"a swarm of children" racist racist racist
"a flock of children" mexican obesity is worse than in the US. can't compare them to birds (except ostriches--obese ostriches)
"a plethora of children" makes me think of the Three Amigos. Also set in Mexico. Funny movie. Racist.
"a murder of children" probably the best choice
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 08:34:58 AM
We can use these children to create a fanatical army of super soldiers through unethical government experiments.  Hmmmmm I feel a book coming on.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:32:30 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 11, 2014, 06:39:42 PM
Really? A tide? Sweeping?

Other options:

"a lot of children" not poetic enough
"a gang of children" are you calling latinos gang members? are you racist?
"a mass of children" draws parallels between hispanic children and cancer invading the US body politic. also racist.
"a mob of children" racist
"a swarm of children" racist racist racist
"a flock of children" mexican obesity is worse than in the US. can't compare them to birds (except ostriches--obese ostriches)
"a plethora of children" makes me think of the Three Amigos. Also set in Mexico. Funny movie. Racist.
"a murder of children" probably the best choice
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 08:49:01 AM
Anyway, although he only bothered to comment on the title of the article, I imagine Timmay is tickled to death over this happening-- given how he thinks illegal immigration is great and lamented seeing that brief drop in illegal immigration a year or two ago.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"

A single child is an annoyance. I don't know that the word captures the implications of 50,000 unaccompanied kids.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"

A single child is an annoyance. I don't know that the word captures the implications of 50,000 unaccompanied kids.

Hell, the 6 kids at my house this weekend were bad enough.  One of them got the bright idea to "plant birdseed" in my front flower bed.  Not only did I end up with a gigantic hole in my flower bed, but also birdseed all over the floor of my garage. 
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2014, 09:17:48 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"

A single child is an annoyance. I don't know that the word captures the implications of 50,000 unaccompanied kids.

That would be called "University of North Carolina"
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Ed Anger on June 12, 2014, 09:19:04 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"

A single child is an annoyance. I don't know that the word captures the implications of 50,000 unaccompanied kids.

Hell, the 6 kids at my house this weekend were bad enough.  One of them got the bright idea to "plant birdseed" in my front flower bed.  Not only did I end up with a gigantic hole in my flower bed, but also birdseed all over the floor of my garage.
6?

N00b
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Syt on June 12, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 11, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.
Their parents, but not the children.

That's right, the kids work on tobacco farms:

http://mg.co.za/multimedia/2014-06-11-child-workers-in-danger-on-us-tobacco-farms
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on June 12, 2014, 08:52:38 AM
Quote from: HVC on June 12, 2014, 08:44:16 AM
I nominate that the name for a group of children be "An Annoyance"

A single child is an annoyance. I don't know that the word captures the implications of 50,000 unaccompanied kids.

Hell, the 6 kids at my house this weekend were bad enough.  One of them got the bright idea to "plant birdseed" in my front flower bed.  Not only did I end up with a gigantic hole in my flower bed, but also birdseed all over the floor of my garage.


Were they expecting to start growing birds in your flower bed? :D
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
Quote from: Syt on June 12, 2014, 11:38:16 AM
Quote from: Phillip V on June 11, 2014, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.
Their parents, but not the children.

That's right, the kids work on tobacco farms:

http://mg.co.za/multimedia/2014-06-11-child-workers-in-danger-on-us-tobacco-farms

My mom grew up on a tobacco farm & she turned out okay.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
Were they expecting to start growing birds in your flower bed? :D

I was too pissed to ask, but yeah, probably.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Sheilbh on June 12, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
I suppose it's better than a tide of children breaking against America :mellow:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:31 AM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 11:40:27 AM
Were they expecting to start growing birds in your flower bed? :D

I was too pissed to ask, but yeah, probably.

See, how can you be overly upset at that. :lol:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Valmy on June 12, 2014, 12:08:10 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on June 12, 2014, 12:00:12 PM
I suppose it's better than a tide of children breaking against America :mellow:

We are talking about real problems here ok Shielbh!
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
See, how can you be overly upset at that. :lol:

Because the birdseed was all over the damned place.  And still is in the corners.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: PDH on June 12, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
See, how can you be overly upset at that. :lol:

Because the birdseed was all over the damned place.  And still is in the corners.

The good news is that all the mice in the neighborhood will eat it now.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 12, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
See, how can you be overly upset at that. :lol:

Because the birdseed was all over the damned place.  And still is in the corners.

The good news is that all the mice in the neighborhood will eat it now.

Or whatever damned animal wanders in from the woods.  We have squirrels, raccoons, opossum, deer, rabbits, moles, groundhogs, and who knows what else.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: KRonn on June 12, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:28:10 PM
Quote from: PDH on June 12, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
Quote from: Barrister on June 12, 2014, 12:03:05 PM
See, how can you be overly upset at that. :lol:

Because the birdseed was all over the damned place.  And still is in the corners.

The good news is that all the mice in the neighborhood will eat it now.

Or whatever damned animal wanders in from the woods.  We have squirrels, raccoons, opossum, deer, rabbits, moles, groundhogs, and who knows what else.

Lions and tigers and bears!!
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: sbr on June 12, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Oh my!
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Norgy on June 12, 2014, 02:38:05 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 11, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
The future lettuce pickers of America.

No corn references to this sweeping tide of children?  :ph34r:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Admiral Yi on June 12, 2014, 04:13:10 PM
Corn is all harvested by machines.

The machines are called, ever so appropriately, harvesters.
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: The Brain on June 12, 2014, 04:20:41 PM
Harvester of corn, language of the... what?
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
My mom grew up on a tobacco farm & she turned out okay.

Yes, she raised a perfectly fine 19th century Amish son.   :lol:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: garbon on June 12, 2014, 06:49:52 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
My mom grew up on a tobacco farm & she turned out okay.

Yes, she raised a perfectly fine 19th century Amish son.   :lol:

Rough!
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 06:52:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
My mom grew up on a tobacco farm & she turned out okay.

Yes, she raised a perfectly fine 19th century Amish son.   :lol:

And? :unsure:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: frunk on June 12, 2014, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 06:52:06 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on June 12, 2014, 06:47:41 PM
Quote from: derspiess on June 12, 2014, 11:42:06 AM
My mom grew up on a tobacco farm & she turned out okay.

Yes, she raised a perfectly fine 19th century Amish son.   :lol:

And? :unsure:

"His name's Gunner and he's dating my mom."
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: Razgovory on June 13, 2014, 04:18:21 PM
Yeah, people bitch that you have 50,000 unaccompanied children hanging around but if someone actually does something about it, everyone flies off the handle crying that there are hundreds of human skeletons in a septic tank and how that's evil. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: derspiess on June 20, 2014, 01:23:19 PM
http://www.gallup.com/poll/171755/approval-obama-handling-immigration-falls.aspx

(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcontent.gallup.com%2Forigin%2Fgallupinc%2FGallupSpaces%2FProduction%2FCms%2FPOLL%2Fqvboufgo-uecbes9jeazbq.png&hash=22cf82320bdcf21b75400b491a2192e7fc0e1ab8)
Title: Re: Tide of Children Sweeps Across U.S. Borders
Post by: CountDeMoney on June 20, 2014, 01:27:33 PM
So his haters disapprove because he is trying to do something, and his supporters disappeove because he hasnt been able to do squat.  Imagine that.