Crazyness :wacko:
http://news.yahoo.com/17-old-student-tops-sitting-w-va-lawmaker-215416397.html
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17-year-old student tops sitting W.Va. lawmaker
Associated Press
May 14, 2014 9:30 AM
CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — A week before her high school graduation, Saira Blair was barely old enough to vote when she unseated a West Virginia lawmaker almost four times her age.
After Tuesday's GOP primary, the 17-year-old is one election away from becoming the youngest state lawmaker in West Virginia history. Larry Swan, sworn in as a 20-year-old delegate in 1972, set the current record.
Blair's birthday is in July, so she would just meet the 18-year-old minimum age for West Virginia House of Delegates members. Seventeen-year-olds who will turn 18 by the November election can vote in West Virginia's primary.
Soft-spoken and on-message, Blair is a churchgoer who says she is pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun rights and pro-business. She can rattle off a laundry list of businesses taxes she wants abolished or lowered.
"People saw that you don't need to wait until you are 40, 50 or 60 to realize our conservative principles are beneficial to everyone," the Martinsburg teen said of her primary win.
Blair also has family experience on her side. Her electrician father, Craig Blair, is a state senator who once held the House seat she is seeking.
The teenager has more on her mind than stump speeches. She graduates from Hedgesville High School next Wednesday. Then she'll head to West Virginia University in the fall to pursue economics and Spanish degrees. She says finance is her field of choice.
Blair will skip spring classes if she clinches the Eastern Panhandle seat, since lawmakers convene for business in Charleston from January to March. The two-year House gig pays a $20,000 annual salary, plus per diem.
Only about 150 votes separated Blair from Republican Del. Larry Kump in the Eastern Panhandle primary, according to unofficial results. But midterm turnout was dismal: Only about 1,600 votes were cast in the 59th House District.
Friends in her high school class of 400 helped wave signs at polling places. She rallied some to register to vote. Blair also spent $4,900 and had a $2,300 loan, compared to Kump's $1,840 in spending.
"Quite frankly, she out-campaigned me," said Kump, 67, finishing his second House term. "It was a low voter turnout election and she won."
Blair's conservative platform meshes with her Eastern Panhandle community, a GOP stronghold filled with Washington, D.C., commuters.
Kump espoused his own brand of quirky conservatism. He sat in the Democratic House's back row with a yellow "Don't tread on me" flag on his desk. He occasionally tapped into his inner Dr. Seuss and delivered rhymes in opposition to bills he considered government intrusion.
He also wanted the Eastern Panhandle to return to Virginia, which Blair opposed.
Blair has attended GOP meetings with her dad since the sixth grade and volunteers with various groups. She skipped senior prom to participate in a Youth in Government meeting in Charleston.
"She has never had a curfew or anything like that," Craig Blair said. "As long as you're performing to the best of your ability, I don't make rules for her."
Blair's Democratic opponent, 44-year-old lawyer Layne Diehl, said that it's positive that the teen won the primary, despite their differing views.
"She certainly has taken on this challenge and I think that she's up to it," Diehl said.
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Monstrous.
Fellow high school friends garnered support for Saira along busy West Virginia roads.
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I can see how that would be effective.
Too old, too fat
In a stunning development Phillip is posting pics of high school girls again.
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
Quote from: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
Some counties lean Republican. Plus the labor union death grip on state politics seems to have slightly lessened. No idea what chance she has in the general election, though.
Quote from: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
She won the Democratic primary against an old incumbent; thus "newsworthy".
Quote from: derspiess on May 15, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Plus the labor union death grip on state politics seems to have slightly lessened.
Yes, because that's precisely what's wrong with West Virginia. Knob.
Quote from: Phillip V on May 15, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
She won the Democratic primary against an old incumbent; thus "newsworthy".
Republican
Quote from: merithyn on May 15, 2014, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 15, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
She won the Democratic primary against an old incumbent; thus "newsworthy".
Republican
Don't mind Phillip he was too busy looking at the pictures of the high school girls.
I agree with Tim. This is crazy. What's a high school kid doing in the Republican Party?
Quote from: Tyr on May 15, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
What's a high school kid doing in the Republican Party?
Running for a seat in the West Virginia House of Delegates?
"Saira." :bleeding:
Quote from: merithyn on May 15, 2014, 10:22:43 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on May 15, 2014, 09:24:58 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 15, 2014, 09:11:48 PM
I thought VW was solidly democrat? Y'know, since 1861. Does this matter?
She won the Democratic primary against an old incumbent; thus "newsworthy".
Republican
Misread the news article. My mistake! :sleep:
Regardless, the district she's in his heavily Republican (Republican primary opponent was incumbent), so she is favored to win the general election in the fall.
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2014, 12:23:18 AM
"Saira." :bleeding:
Despite being horribly white she looks kind of non-white. It is a normal Asian name,
If Valerius Corvinus was consul at 22 (23?) I'm sure West Virginia can be ruled by a teenage chick.
Also, did we check that it's actually "statehouse"? :unsure:
Clubhouse.
Considering the bulk of VW politicians she's probably above average in maturity.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2014, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 15, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Plus the labor union death grip on state politics seems to have slightly lessened.
Yes, because that's precisely what's wrong with West Virginia. Knob.
That's a lot of it. Union deathgrip = decades of one-party rule. I don't care which party you support, that's not a good thing. There are other problems in the state, but the question was raised re: Democrats dominating the state.
Quote from: Habbaku on May 16, 2014, 12:23:18 AM
"Saira." :bleeding:
That actually fits the pronunciation many West Virginians use :)
Quote$20,000 annual salary
That's a pretty pitiful salary, even for W. Virginia.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2014, 07:54:52 AM
Quote$20,000 annual salary
That's a pretty pitiful salary, even for W. Virginia.
But you only have to work part of the year, and it isn't bad pocket money for a college student. For most people this is a second job.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 07:39:11 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 15, 2014, 09:57:24 PM
Quote from: derspiess on May 15, 2014, 09:22:32 PM
Plus the labor union death grip on state politics seems to have slightly lessened.
Yes, because that's precisely what's wrong with West Virginia. Knob.
That's a lot of it. Union deathgrip = decades of one-party rule. I don't care which party you support, that's not a good thing. There are other problems in the state, but the question was raised re: Democrats dominating the state.
And republicans freed the slaves. Big deal. Get over the Robert Byrd thing.
Romney carried the state by 27% in 2012. Nto what I call a "union deathgrip". Or were there other factors at play? :ohnotehblacks:
Good for this kid, hope she wins election, get some young blood in Congress.
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 16, 2014, 07:54:52 AM
Quote$20,000 annual salary
That's a pretty pitiful salary, even for W. Virginia.
Plus per diem and other hidden benefits. Delegates work 60 days a year.
Best hidden gig around where I am is County Board of Commissioners. The seven commissioners meet twice a month for about an hour or two and get paid $22k/yr + other benefits. Upon my reading the published meeting minutes, some county commissioners don't even show up! Thus, one could probably pull about 40 hours a year for that office and $22k+.
I'm going to make her work for my vote.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2014, 08:17:52 AM
And republicans freed the slaves.
Don't you forget it.
QuoteBig deal. Get over the Robert Byrd thing.
No.
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Romney carried the state by 27% in 2012. Nto what I call a "union deathgrip". Or were there other factors at play? :ohnotehblacks:
Bush won the state in 2000 and 2004. Anyway, national politics play differently than state politics. And given that we're talking about some girl running for the WV House of Delegates, state politics is more relevant here.
Democrats have controlled the House of Delegates since 1930, largely due to the strength of the coal miner's union. But the margin has decreased dramatically over the past few years. In 1976 is was 91 Democrats to 9 Republicans. Now it's 53 to 47.
But please, continue talking out of your ass about a neighboring state you know nothing about.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
Democrats have controlled the House of Delegates since 1930, largely due to the strength of the coal miner's union. But the margin has decreased dramatically over the past few years. In 1976 is was 91 Democrats to 9 Republicans. Now it's 53 to 47.
It sorta seems like it reflects the decline of coal mining. See Spicey those environmentalists are good for something.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 08:42:28 AM
It sorta seems like it reflects the decline of coal mining. See Spicey those environmentalists are good for something.
Fracking/natural gas also helped that along.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:44:56 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 08:42:28 AM
It sorta seems like it reflects the decline of coal mining. See Spicey those environmentalists are good for something.
Fracking/natural gas also helped that along.
Natural Gas burns clean Spicey. Man made global warming can be prevented.
Quote from: Phillip V on May 15, 2014, 07:52:27 PM
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Somebody suggested she thought felons convicted of mass shootings should not be able to carry concealed miniature grenade launchers into police stations. Fortunately she has no such anti-Constitutional views.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 08:45:43 AM
Natural Gas burns clean Spicey.
Indeed. I've always been a big fan of it.
QuoteMan made global warming can be prevented.
Can we also prevent: non-man made global warming?
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:50:06 AM
Can we also prevent: non-man made global warming?
No. We are fucked on that one.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:50:06 AM
Can we also prevent: non-man made global warming?
No. We are fucked on that one.
Then the answer is more green jobs.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:55:50 AM
Then the answer is more green jobs.
Only if they are in power.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
But please, continue talking out of your ass about a neighboring state you know nothing about.
OK. But only because it pisses your redneck mouthbreathing Mountaineer ass off.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on May 16, 2014, 10:58:01 AM
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 08:32:53 AM
But please, continue talking out of your ass about a neighboring state you know nothing about.
OK. But only because it pisses your redneck mouthbreathing Mountaineer ass off.
That it does, you Black Irish bastard :ultra:
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Quote from: Tyr on May 16, 2014, 06:28:52 AM
Despite being horribly white she looks kind of non-white. It is a normal Asian name,
Melungian!
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Is there a utility in differentiating?
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Not really. Redneck implies farming(generally done on flat land).
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 16, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Not really. Redneck implies farming(generally done on flat land).
Maybe in a historical sense. I don't think that implication is part of typical use today.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 16, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Not really. Redneck implies farming(generally done on flat land).
Thank you. At least somebody around here is sensitive to other cultures.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 16, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Not really. Redneck implies farming(generally done on flat land).
Did not know that. First time I ever see it mentioned.
The idea is they are working outside with their shirt and hat on so only their neck gets sunburned.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:19:26 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 16, 2014, 11:17:29 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Not really. Redneck implies farming(generally done on flat land).
Thank you. At least somebody around here is sensitive to other cultures.
Cultures? Oh FFS.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:23:37 AM
The idea is they are working outside with their shirt and hat on so only their neck gets sunburned.
While hillbillies hide in caves?
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Nah. West Virginians don't use many Chinese words.
Quote from: garbon on May 16, 2014, 11:28:54 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:23:37 AM
The idea is they are working outside with their shirt and hat on so only their neck gets sunburned.
While hillbillies hide in caves?
Some do, actually.
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:23:37 AM
The idea is they are working outside with their shirt and hat on so only their neck gets sunburned.
Isn't that from sitting out drinking moonshin'
Quote from: Grey Fox on May 16, 2014, 11:10:24 AM
Quote from: Valmy on May 16, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
Oh FFS West Virginians are Hillbillies not Rednecks.
Sinonyms.
Hillbillies = Deliverance.
Rednecks = In the Heath of the Night.
I think :mellow:
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 16, 2014, 11:53:06 AM
Rednecks = In the Heath of the Night.
Chocolate on the brain? :P
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on May 16, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on May 16, 2014, 11:53:06 AM
Rednecks = In the Heath of the Night.
Chocolate on the brain? :P
The killer in the film is a Tory PM, but everyone forgets that because the real story is the relationship between Sidney Poitier and Rod Steiger.
Seems to me in the modern usage redneck means white bigot, with strong implications of southern. Whereas hillbilly still means what it has always meant: poor, white, inbred, uneducated, bad teeth.
There is quite a bit of overlap between the two, so it's not a big deal to use them interchangeably.
Quote from: derspiess on May 16, 2014, 12:27:31 PM
There is quite a bit of overlap between the two, so it's not a big deal to use them interchangeably.
You have no pride in your hillbilly people Spicey.
In the british empire "red neck" had quite differnt connotations to what they have in the US. Roinekke - afrikaans for red-neck - was used for English immigrants (who are known to go out in the mid-day sun with the mad dogs). The Austrialian use of "poms" for english is that the skin on their "red-necks" looked like the skin of a pommegranite.
Etymology wise the "red-neck" would be the valley dweller with sensitive skin who worked outside on his farm and hillbilly would be the "gentleman" of scottish ancestry who's ancestors moved from a hill in scotland to a hill in america continuing the dislike the lowlanders living below them.
Viking gets it. I am impressed with your Americana-fu.
What the hell...The adults in this town should be embarrassed
http://www.texomashomepage.com/story/d/story/18-year-old-becomes-archer-city-mayor/39081/R28H_fWBOUCdrZTGSuYB2g
QuoteHe may be graduating from high school this month, but already he's entering the political ring.
Kelvin Green, 18, was sworn in as Archer City Mayor Friday morning.
Green was the only person who filed to run for the position.
City officials say he is about twenty years younger than all of the city's previous mayors.
Green says while growing up, people always told him he'd be great for the position, because of his passion for Archer City.
"It's my whole world, its my life, I have lived here for 18 years and I am proud to be a part of it," he said.
Green says he doesn't have a grand agenda as the mayor. He says when you start telling people what you are going to do they usually get upset and he wants to avoid that.
It has 1800 people...
Quote from: jimmy olsen on May 18, 2014, 11:03:48 AM
What the hell...The adults in this town should be embarrassed
http://www.texomashomepage.com/story/d/story/18-year-old-becomes-archer-city-mayor/39081/R28H_fWBOUCdrZTGSuYB2g
QuoteHe may be graduating from high school this month, but already he's entering the political ring.
Kelvin Green, 18, was sworn in as Archer City Mayor Friday morning.
Green was the only person who filed to run for the position.
City officials say he is about twenty years younger than all of the city's previous mayors.
Green says while growing up, people always told him he'd be great for the position, because of his passion for Archer City.
"It's my whole world, its my life, I have lived here for 18 years and I am proud to be a part of it," he said.
Green says he doesn't have a grand agenda as the mayor. He says when you start telling people what you are going to do they usually get upset and he wants to avoid that.
This new 18-year-old can pat himself for being mayor, but he still can't legally drink. America. :(
De fault. The two sweetest words in the English language.
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2014, 01:31:28 PM
In the british empire "red neck" had quite differnt connotations to what they have in the US. Roinekke - afrikaans for red-neck - was used for English immigrants (who are known to go out in the mid-day sun with the mad dogs). The Austrialian use of "poms" for english is that the skin on their "red-necks" looked like the skin of a pommegranite.
Etymology wise the "red-neck" would be the valley dweller with sensitive skin who worked outside on his farm and hillbilly would be the "gentleman" of scottish ancestry who's ancestors moved from a hill in scotland to a hill in america continuing the dislike the lowlanders living below them.
I don't think that's that different from the North American usage, minus any specific implications of Englishness. Rednecks are thought to be poor, rural, and white - the red neck coming from being outside working for long stretches of time. Now, of course, the word carries strong connotations of the most prevalent cultural and social values of that group.
I guess in the US there may be some geographic connotations as well, but I'm not that convinced as I've heard (Americans) speak of rednecks in, say, Oregon and California, not just the South. And in Canada we use the term as well.
It's used un-self-consciously in northern New England as well, and without a strong connotation of bigotry (since there have historically been essentially no non-whites to be bigoted against), in my experience. There's a general connotation of cultural conservatism, but it really brings up more of the rural, outdoor-oriented lifestyle.
Country music is almost as popular in the rural North (and English-speaking Canada, from what I'm led to believe) as it is in the South, so "redneck" has lost a lot of its regional specificity via the radio, especially the redneck-celebration/backlash subgenre.
Have you run into anyone who uses the term Swamp Yankee?
I haven't. I thought it kind of was specific to the eastern Conn./R.I./southeastern Mass. zone, though.
Quote from: Jacob on May 18, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Viking on May 16, 2014, 01:31:28 PM
In the british empire "red neck" had quite differnt connotations to what they have in the US. Roinekke - afrikaans for red-neck - was used for English immigrants (who are known to go out in the mid-day sun with the mad dogs). The Austrialian use of "poms" for english is that the skin on their "red-necks" looked like the skin of a pommegranite.
Etymology wise the "red-neck" would be the valley dweller with sensitive skin who worked outside on his farm and hillbilly would be the "gentleman" of scottish ancestry who's ancestors moved from a hill in scotland to a hill in america continuing the dislike the lowlanders living below them.
I don't think that's that different from the North American usage, minus any specific implications of Englishness. Rednecks are thought to be poor, rural, and white - the red neck coming from being outside working for long stretches of time. Now, of course, the word carries strong connotations of the most prevalent cultural and social values of that group.
I guess in the US there may be some geographic connotations as well, but I'm not that convinced as I've heard (Americans) speak of rednecks in, say, Oregon and California, not just the South. And in Canada we use the term as well.
I'd say that "redneck" is more general term for a rustic while hillbilly is a subset of rural people living in the mountains and hills of the Ozarks and Appalachia. There is certainly a separate culture down there, I can understand a damn thing anyone living south of Jefferson City says. Folks down there are poorer as well, it's a hardscrabble life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3jIE3b-bhY
I suspect she will win; I'm familiar with D.C. area types who live in the Eastern Panhandle of WV, they're basically the people whose careers have brought them to DC (typically work w/the or for the government), but want to be rednecks with property, and they're willing to commute 60-90 minutes to do it (it's not that bad of a commute since it's a train ride and I guess you can sleep during it.)
It's kind of a shame the other guy is out, I'd heard of his efforts to bring the Eastern Panhandle back to WV, it never should have been part of WV in the first place. It wasn't even part of the initial vote process, literally after it was clear WV was going to be formed as a State Lincoln said, "oh hey this section contains vital railroad and transit links so we'll go ahead and chop this off of Virginia too."
That kind of a commute being "not bad" is insane to me, I can't imagine that kind of waste of time.
I have about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 in the afternoon. Of course if I worked later than my 6AM-2:30PM shift it wold be worse for me, but still never that bad on a regular basis.
If you have an hour on the train - there is plenty you can do. Only really terrible if you are in the car.
Quote from: sbr on May 18, 2014, 08:40:35 PM
That kind of a commute being "not bad" is insane to me, I can't imagine that kind of waste of time.
I have about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 in the afternoon. Of course if I worked later than my 6AM-2:30PM shift it wold be worse for me, but still never that bad on a regular basis.
It's honestly typical, I know tons of people with commutes 45m+, not just in the DC area, I know people who commute over 60m to work in NYC, people who drive 65 mi/one way a day from the Houston exurbs etc.
I commute 5 minutes...6.5 minutes if there is traffic.
I commute to the can.
Quote from: garbon on May 18, 2014, 08:45:33 PM
If you have an hour on the train - there is plenty you can do. Only really terrible if you are in the car.
Yeah, there is plenty you can do, but there is even more you can't do while sitting on a train and not at home/anywhere else. I guess it is the price you pay to work downtown in large metropolitan areas, but there is no way I would ever do that willingly.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 18, 2014, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: sbr on May 18, 2014, 08:40:35 PM
That kind of a commute being "not bad" is insane to me, I can't imagine that kind of waste of time.
I have about 35 minutes in the morning and 45 in the afternoon. Of course if I worked later than my 6AM-2:30PM shift it wold be worse for me, but still never that bad on a regular basis.
It's honestly typical, I know tons of people with commutes 45m+, not just in the DC area, I know people who commute over 60m to work in NYC, people who drive 65 mi/one way a day from the Houston exurbs etc.
I understand that it is typical. There are lots of things some people find typical that I would never willingly do.
My guess is, these people also probably work more than 8 hours a day; at that point you are spending more than half of every day either working or traveling to/from work. Yuck. :yuk:
A lot of them are government employees, trust me, we don't ever work 8 hours a day. I'd say the average is 3-4, with some working 0.
It'd be more accurate to say they are present on site for 8 hours (although given most people arrive 15 minutes late leave 15 minutes early and take a 60-85 minute lunch even that is questionable), a lot of the ones with the really long commutes actually do the 4 x 10 schedule, so they only have to do that commute 4x a week.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 18, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
A lot of them are government employees, trust me, we don't ever work 8 hours a day. I'd say the average is 3-4, with some working 0.
Ain't that the truth. In my few short months in Federal Contractorland, I have to say I've not been too terribly impressed. No wonder everybody's so fucking friendly: they don't operate under the constant fear of a RIF. You institutionalized welfare queens never had it so good.
QuoteIt'd be more accurate to say they are present on site for 8 hours (although given most people arrive 15 minutes late leave 15 minutes early and take a 60-85 minute lunch even that is questionable), a lot of the ones with the really long commutes actually do the 4 x 10 schedule, so they only have to do that commute 4x a week.
Shit, they get to work from home twice a week anyway. Makes the 90-miles in-90-minutes drive from WV much more bearable. I drive 90 minutes too, but for 50 miles. WV is a drag race as far as commutes go.
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on May 18, 2014, 10:30:31 PM
A lot of them are government employees, trust me, we don't ever work 8 hours a day. I'd say the average is 3-4, with some working 0.
It'd be more accurate to say they are present on site for 8 hours (although given most people arrive 15 minutes late leave 15 minutes early and take a 60-85 minute lunch even that is questionable), a lot of the ones with the really long commutes actually do the 4 x 10 schedule, so they only have to do that commute 4x a week.
I want. :(
Quote from: Phillip V on May 18, 2014, 11:25:28 PM
I want. :(
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