Raz, tired of being the most ignorant and useless person on this board is thinking about going back to school. I have some student debt (about 6k or so) and haven't gone back to school in 10 years. I'm not sure where to start. Any ideas?
katmai still posts here.
Take an English class at your local JC.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2014, 03:15:05 PM
Raz, tired of being the most ignorant and useless person on this board is thinking about going back to school. I have some student debt (about 6k or so) and haven't gone back to school in 10 years. I'm not sure where to start. Any ideas?
For a start, a change is as good as a rest, so I think it's a positive.
You seem an intelligent chap, so why not apply it and get some more bits of academic paper.
Just don't go all IDE on us over debt and career.
Good luck Raz.
Quote from: mongers on April 12, 2014, 03:38:11 PM
Just don't go all IDE on us over debt and career.
:lol:
Impoverished
Detonated
Education
Get a degree from Stanford. I hear they have plenty of money.
Go the the highest cost of living area possible, take out the maximum loans, and invest in something likelier to provide solid returns than a degree.
Quote from: Ideologue on April 12, 2014, 03:53:48 PM
Go the the highest cost of living area possible, take out the maximum loans, and invest in something likelier to provide solid returns than a degree.
Dude, being in your financial and career situation would be an improvement for me.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 03:34:23 PM
Take an English class at your local JC.
What's a JC? Where I live "JC" means the high school or the town which the high school is named after. There is actually a nice university here in town. It's called the Black Harvard of the Midwest. So it's only two qualifications from being an Ivy League school. Incidentally I would like to find out a way to increase my debt, so I can pay for schooling.
Junior college. Juco. Community college.
Fill out a FAFSA. See what the Feds offer. You'll need to pick a major for it to go through.
Missouri might offer some funds. Go to CC and pick something you like. Usually, you can attend CC on just grant money, if you get the whole shebang.
Study accounting. It isn't too hard to find jobs. (although I know in your case there may be problems finding work. In that case, study something fun like history)
Quote from: alfred russel on April 12, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
Study accounting. It isn't too hard to find jobs. (although I know in your case there may be problems finding work. In that case, study something fun like history)
Or maybe something scientific with various career paths?
In retrospect, geology would have been good for someone like me.
Quote from: mongers on April 12, 2014, 05:06:22 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 12, 2014, 05:04:04 PM
Study accounting. It isn't too hard to find jobs. (although I know in your case there may be problems finding work. In that case, study something fun like history)
Or maybe something scientific with various career paths?
In retrospect, geology would have been good for someone like me.
The benefit to accounting is that you don't need a graduate degree to get going. Assuming you have a solid college base (near graduation or already graduated), a couple of intro classes plus a solid year of school and you are ready to begin a professional career. You can't start from scratch and become a scientist so quickly.
Yeah I recommend Community or Junior College and get an associates first. What were you thinking of doing with this degree and what were you thinking of studying?
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
[Malthus]
Anything but archeology.
[/Malthus]
I don't get it.
Raz, what was your area of study before? How many college credits do you already have, and from which school(s)?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
This is what I'm thinking. See, Yi understands me. More then anything I want this as a method of getting better mentally. I'm thinking of taking one course this summer and after that see about a full semester.
Dance?
School is just a means to get a job. Therefore, before you go to school, figure out what kind of job you have in mind. Then work toward getting the job. Which may or may not include going back to school.
Captain fun is here.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2014, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
This is what I'm thinking. See, Yi understands me. More then anything I want this as a method of getting better mentally. I'm thinking of taking one course this summer and after that see about a full semester.
Then definitely take a class you'd think you'll enjoy. Like history.
Can't say much else than go for it, and good luck! :hug:
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2014, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
This is what I'm thinking. See, Yi understands me. More then anything I want this as a method of getting better mentally. I'm thinking of taking one course this summer and after that see about a full semester.
My advice still stands though: Community/Junior College. Are you able to work? Or is this just about personal enrichment?
Quote from: Norgy on April 12, 2014, 07:20:25 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on April 12, 2014, 06:41:33 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 12, 2014, 05:25:18 PM
I think it's premature to talk about a degree, even an associates. Raz just wants to dip his toe back into the water. Take a light load, one course, nothing too pointy headed, see how it goes.
This is what I'm thinking. See, Yi understands me. More then anything I want this as a method of getting better mentally. I'm thinking of taking one course this summer and after that see about a full semester.
Then definitely take a class you'd think you'll enjoy. Like history.
Can't say much else than go for it, and good luck! :hug:
Yeah, I agree with Norgy--if it's just one summer class, history is a good choice. It's interesting in its own right (assuming a decent instructor), and if you do decide to go for a degree later, it can count as an elective with almost any major.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 12, 2014, 06:46:01 PM
School is just a means to get a job. Therefore, before you go to school, figure out what kind of job you have in mind. Then work toward getting the job. Which may or may not include going back to school.
I conditionally agree with Mono.
If you can afford the expense of college and want to go to for fun or to improve your mental state, I'd consider all the other things you could do with that money. If college still seems like the most fun/best option, then go for it. I can't imagine it is though.
There is hope for you Raz, I mean if Ide can complete law school.
I was thinking a creative writing or a literature class. American novel, something like that.
Quote from: alfred russel on April 13, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
I conditionally agree with Mono.
If you can afford the expense of college and want to go to for fun or to improve your mental state, I'd consider all the other things you could do with that money. If college still seems like the most fun/best option, then go for it. I can't imagine it is though.
3 credit hours at a CC is gonna cost, what, $600 maybe? That's a lot of entertainment and therapy for $600.
Another good option IMO would be an intro Spanish class.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2014, 04:34:47 AM
3 credit hours at a CC is gonna cost, what, $600 maybe? That's a lot of entertainment and therapy for $600.
I was thumbing through my Mom's copy of the local Community college catalog, they're offering non-credit, shortened classes on everything from Gettysburg to Microsoft Office to cooking these days. Hell, Dad's registered for 6 evening sessions on digital photography for the Nikon D40. All those little buttons must do something.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2014, 04:34:47 AM
Quote from: alfred russel on April 13, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
I conditionally agree with Mono.
If you can afford the expense of college and want to go to for fun or to improve your mental state, I'd consider all the other things you could do with that money. If college still seems like the most fun/best option, then go for it. I can't imagine it is though.
3 credit hours at a CC is gonna cost, what, $600 maybe? That's a lot of entertainment and therapy for $600.
That's fairly close to like four visits with a Psychologist.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2014, 04:32:40 AM
I was thinking a creative writing or a literature class. American novel, something like that.
You're writing a movie script about this, aren't you? :hmm:
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
I think you're being to touchy-feely on this one, LaCroix. Maybe you should be more direct.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
I think you're being to touchy-feely on this one, LaCroix. Maybe you should be more direct.
:lol:
i mean, really. with how godawful raz has said of his situation, time and again, people really should not be encouraging college. i'm pro-college for 99% of the time. but this clearly is not a good idea
I guess it depends on Raz's ultimate goal. If the goal is indeed to get a job, then I would say he should probably pursue something unskilled and easy first (like a cashier someplace). If he can't handle that because he just can't hack working, then getting a college degree won't change it.
Either way best of luck to you, Raz. :hug:
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
I think you're being to touchy-feely on this one, LaCroix. Maybe you should be more direct.
:lol:
i mean, really. with how godawful raz has said of his situation, time and again, people really should not be encouraging college. i'm pro-college for 99% of the time. but this clearly is not a good idea
I think you are over-analyzing this. If Raz is in what accept as a "godawful" situation, then changes are to be encouraged. A summer course, or even a degree, might not be financially justifiable, but it lets Raz get back into a familiar pattern that still requires him to interact with people, and it allows him to be successful in an endeavor that obviously has meaning to him. Financial aid might also be available, but I think a summer course at a CC is probably a good investment even if it doesn't work out. In the latter case, at least Raz will not have to wonder if he should be trying school again. That's worth $600 right there.
If he needs mental health he should get a job (I suppose he's too old for the military). Surely there's some part time volunteer jobs that could serve the same toedipping purpose.
If he wants to learn moar stuff then he should hit the books. No need to stupid educate.
Quote from: grumbler on April 13, 2014, 12:33:40 PM
I think you are over-analyzing this. If Raz is in what accept as a "godawful" situation, then changes are to be encouraged. A summer course, or even a degree, might not be financially justifiable, but it lets Raz get back into a familiar pattern that still requires him to interact with people, and it allows him to be successful in an endeavor that obviously has meaning to him. Financial aid might also be available, but I think a summer course at a CC is probably a good investment even if it doesn't work out. In the latter case, at least Raz will not have to wonder if he should be trying school again. That's worth $600 right there.
The cost of 1 course may be $600, but most people end up purchasing them in groups. Assuming he plans to take a few courses, for the same money he could fly the Philippines, get some cheap accomodation in Angeles City, and do things that have meaning to him and require interaction with people.
Even if it doesn't work out, it will be an awesome adventure and he will probably learn a lot more than he would in school.
Only insight I can add is to try to study something that will give you a tangible, marketable skill. I myself have a history degree, and I know many others with various social science degrees. They're fun to study but not very marketable outside of academic positions.
You're a smart guy so just find what interests you and can make you some green and go for it. :showoff:
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
Persona non grata at library.
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
You're overlooking the human interaction aspect.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
You're overlooking the human interaction aspect.
LaCroix accounts for that with the guy at the counter when he tells Raz to buy a gun and blow his brains out.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on April 13, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
You're overlooking the human interaction aspect.
Judging from his spelling and punctuation, LaCroix is an English major. English majors don't know a lot about human interaction.
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 11:00:44 AM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 13, 2014, 10:56:31 AM
I think you're being to touchy-feely on this one, LaCroix. Maybe you should be more direct.
:lol:
i mean, really. with how godawful raz has said of his situation, time and again, people really should not be encouraging college. i'm pro-college for 99% of the time. but this clearly is not a good idea
Social interaction is good for 99 % of people. Being isolated isn't. If community college helps someone get out the door and maybe meet people, that's worth a lot already.
If college is a bad idea, what do you suggest? A Living Doll?
Quote from: grumbler on April 13, 2014, 12:33:40 PMI think you are over-analyzing this. If Raz is in what accept as a "godawful" situation, then changes are to be encouraged. A summer course, or even a degree, might not be financially justifiable, but it lets Raz get back into a familiar pattern that still requires him to interact with people, and it allows him to be successful in an endeavor that obviously has meaning to him. Financial aid might also be available, but I think a summer course at a CC is probably a good investment even if it doesn't work out. In the latter case, at least Raz will not have to wonder if he should be trying school again. That's worth $600 right there.
Quote from: Admiral YiYou're overlooking the human interaction aspect.
Quote from: NorgySocial interaction is good for 99 % of people. Being isolated isn't. If community college helps someone get out the door and maybe meet people, that's worth a lot already.
If college is a bad idea, what do you suggest? A Living Doll?
as brain mentioned, there are plenty of ways for one to gain social interaction than spend money attending classes. furthermore, i will point out that no where in this thread has raz said his goal of going back to college is to interact with others. that is something brought up by other posters, not raz. from his posts here, he wishes to improve his mental capacity
raz could volunteer as brain suggested, or be active with the church. i'm sure his psychiatrist/case workers would have suggestions and likely would know what options are available in his city.
also, there seems to be odd false dichotomy going on here. "either raz spends money to go to college or does nothing," no, there are other options. my whole point is that raz, who simply does not have money to burn, should not waste it by going to college when 1) he can learn far more through other avenues (like having his parents rent out books from the library for him or whatever) and 2) if he really does want social interaction, which he said no where in this thread that he does, then he can interact with groups for free
finally, there seems to be this assumption by many here that if raz did go to college, that he would get positive social interaction. that is not necessarily the case. weird people get ostracized real quick. there's a strong chance raz would be the class weirdo and shunned by everyone. furthermore, there's a possibility that because class discussion often leads to debates, he might get agitated and cause an incident. remember the drive-thru event he talked about awhile back? shit, man, at least at church potlucks the atmosphere is pretty informal and friendly
so, going to college seems like a really bad option for a number of reasons. i don't see any positives to it. just a whole ton of negatives and bad outcomes
Raz should be a freebooter in darkest Africa, where even with his mental impairments he'll be ahead of the curve. It would provide opportunities for personal advancement, and he could vent his frustrations in a healthy environment. I like to think he could find an Afrikaner on the cusp of their twilight years to apprentice under. He could wear a dashing hat!
I think the "human interaction" bit is a subtext that other posters have pulled out and Raz has tacitly agreed with.
I forget the drive-thru incident, but there is a non-negligible possibility that classroom discussion does provoke an upsetting experience.
And Raz, do you know if you've actually been trespassed at the library? You can check with the police to see if there's a current order against you. I kind of imagine you might have been asked to leave once, but that's not enough to bar you from the premises.
For better or worse, we don't live under Sulla and/or Lucullus, so persona non grata has lost some of its significance. The library has to formally add you to its proscription rolls before it can legitimately keep you out.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on April 13, 2014, 04:11:56 PM
I think the "human interaction" bit is a subtext that other posters have pulled out and Raz has tacitly agreed with.
I forget the drive-thru incident, but there is a non-negligible possibility that classroom discussion does provoke an upsetting experience.
2 drive-thru lanes (where orders are given/received) merged into one for the pay/pick up. raz was in one of the lanes and let a woman in the other through to be polite. someone behind raz honked his horn. so, raz got out of his car, went to the driver's door, peered into the window, and asked him to stop honking. as he relayed it to the board, he appeared distressed over the incident
best thing raz could do with his life is probably pawn his computer and kindle, which are really just holding him back since i imagine he spends a ungodly amount of time on electronics. from there, he could take baby steps toward integrating himself in a warm, friendly environment, like a local catholic church or volunteer organization. on the side, he picks a subject and starts reading. this would all be completely free, except for gas, i guess. or bus fare
college :rolleyes:
I'm with Cal, get a job.
College doesn't actually require, or--when you're old as fuck like us--even encourage social interaction. I don't know why anyone would suggest college for that reason.
But a job does. (It's also a net positive financial decision, unlike taking random bullshit courses, but that's so obvious I don't think it really needs pointing out.)
If his community college is anything like mine was, social interaction outside class is limited to whoever is on the other side of the phones everyone had attached.
I'm with the job crowd. The ultimate aim should be self-sufficiency. A job is the most direct approach toward that goal. A community college course helps in the long-run, and does offer formal recognition that self-study doesn't. May also be a start toward some kind of academic qualification. But that's more for the future. A job can help right now in terms of financial benefits and social interaction. Completing a course may or may not require human contact. I completed a lot of courses at university level without talking to anybody in class.
Raz probably knows more about history than the average JC history professor does.
Raz, don't listen to the haters: they already have their degrees.
You want to get some classes under your belt, do it. Like Yi recommended, start small, like a History or Writing class. One class, take it from there.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2014, 10:31:43 PM
Raz, don't listen to the haters: they already have their degrees.
You want to get some classes under your belt, do it. Like Yi recommended, start small, like a History or Writing class. One class, take it from there.
It is possible to get a job and take one course at the same time.
He has to walk before he can run. He has...issues he has to deal with.
Quote from: Monoriu on April 15, 2014, 10:37:57 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on April 15, 2014, 10:31:43 PM
Raz, don't listen to the haters: they already have their degrees.
You want to get some classes under your belt, do it. Like Yi recommended, start small, like a History or Writing class. One class, take it from there.
It is possible to get a job and take one course at the same time.
A job may knock him out of state medical benefits. I think he receives hep from the gub'mint.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 13, 2014, 02:10:35 PM
Quote from: LaCroix on April 13, 2014, 10:55:01 AM
raz is in a terrible financial situation and very likely won't ever have another job in his life. certainly not a normal job, at least. so, college is a pointless expense to him. he wants to learn? library card. through his own research, raz will learn far more than he ever would in a classroom environment. just look at history majors. by and large, they don't know shit about history
having a professor present is useful to improve writing, but raz's post doesn't indicate that's what he's really interested in. so, he'd be paying to have a professor explain reading material that he probably could figure out himself, so he's better off cutting out that $500-3000 middleman. especially in his case where he doesn't have hundreds of dollars to pile up and set on fire
Persona non grata at library.
How?
Raz, count me in on wondering what the scoop is with the library (if you're not comfy putting it out in nullsec forum space, PM and FB messages are always an option).
The reason I ask is that you might want to see how you fare in a group setting before dropping the money on a class; often, the local library will run some free group classes that you could take strictly for edification's sake, with the added bonus that you can use that as a control to see how you function in a group education environment.
Meh, I just don't go the library. Girl I had a crush on works there. She would not be happy to see me.
Is there a restraining order involved? :hmm:
No. Her name is Melody and she thinks I'm insane. Women don't find that kind of thing attractive.
Well, as long as you just check out your books and don't bother her any more than you have to, I don't see the problem.
Quote from: Razgovory on April 17, 2014, 12:04:50 PM
No. Her name is Melody and she thinks I'm insane. Women don't find that kind of thing attractive.
Romantic comedies have lied to us. :(
Libraries are public places. If there's no restraining order involved, she'll have to put up with your presence. If she doesn't like it she can get another job where she doesn't have to deal with the public. :mellow:
I dunno guys - if Raz thinks that his going to the library would distress this girl then I for one take him at his word. :mellow:
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on April 17, 2014, 12:20:26 PM
Well, as long as you just check out your her bookbs and don't bother her any more than you have to, I don't see the problem.
:hmm:
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2014, 12:57:08 PM
I dunno guys - if Raz thinks that his going to the library would distress this girl then I for one take him at his word. :mellow:
Raz needs to put himself first, before some random chick he has no relationship with. :hmm:
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2014, 12:57:08 PM
I dunno guys - if Raz thinks that his going to the library would distress this girl then I for one take him at his word. :mellow:
Raz is to be forever precluded from using the library because he may run into a woman who maybe doesn't like him? Not good.
I suspect that this may be pathological shyness on Raz's part at work.
The library isn't that great to begin with. It's not really an issue.
Quote from: Caliga on April 17, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
Quote from: Barrister on April 17, 2014, 12:57:08 PM
I dunno guys - if Raz thinks that his going to the library would distress this girl then I for one take him at his word. :mellow:
Raz needs to put himself first, before some random chick he has no relationship with. :hmm:
This.
Raz should put Raz first. :)
Well after the women and children.
I have to pay my old school loan in full to get the transcripts shifted. I don't exactly have that kind of money laying around. It's about 7 grand. Not sure what to do next. Anyone have some ideas?
That's one hell of an overdue library fine.
Current plan: Fake death, get loan forgiven and get transcripts sent to new place. There's still some bugs in the plan, and really it's more of a plan B.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 18, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
Current plan: Fake death, get loan forgiven and get transcripts sent to new place. There's still some bugs in the plan, and really it's more of a plan B.
What about, form a new political party campaigning for some social justice in America, get millions of CdMs to vote for you, become President, enact legislation to make higher education free in America and forgive all outstanding education loans ? :cool:
Quote from: mongers on June 18, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
What about, form a new political party campaigning for some social justice in America, get millions of CdMs to vote for you, become President, enact legislation to make higher education free in America and forgive all outstanding education loans ? :cool:
Stop trying to get Raz killed please.
Quote from: mongers on June 18, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 18, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
Current plan: Fake death, get loan forgiven and get transcripts sent to new place. There's still some bugs in the plan, and really it's more of a plan B.
What about, form a new political party campaigning for some social justice in America, get millions of CdMs to vote for you, become President, enact legislation to make higher education free in America and forgive all outstanding education loans ? :cool:
Don't think I can swing that by August.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 18, 2014, 05:18:29 PM
Quote from: mongers on June 18, 2014, 01:06:44 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 18, 2014, 11:55:33 AM
Current plan: Fake death, get loan forgiven and get transcripts sent to new place. There's still some bugs in the plan, and really it's more of a plan B.
What about, form a new political party campaigning for some social justice in America, get millions of CdMs to vote for you, become President, enact legislation to make higher education free in America and forgive all outstanding education loans ? :cool:
Don't think I can swing that by August.
Yeah, sorry I got the timetable all wrong, but I guess it's still a goer for 2016? :cool:
Get a job first, save up the money, repay the loan, then go to school next year?
I'm trying to start school so I can get over my agoraphobia and get a job. I wonder if there is someone I can talk to about all this. Like a lawyer or something.
Why do you need the transcript to transfer?
Quote from: Admiral Yi on June 19, 2014, 07:34:58 AM
Why do you need the transcript to transfer?
Cause that's what they told me. Not that the transcripts are actually worth anything.
Did they say you can't register without a transcript?
Could you transfer your credits later on?
You need to transfer credits when you want to earn a degree or get out of a prerequisite. The first doesn't apply to Raz, not sure if the second does.
I think Yi might be on to something. Since I didn't pass any of those classes at the other school, maybe I won't have to transfer anything.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
I think Yi might be on to something. Since I didn't pass any of those classes at the other school, maybe I won't have to transfer anything.
:huh: If you didn't pass any classes, you wouldn't want the new school to know about that in the first place.
Raz, two things are unclear to me.
First, why is a loan is stopping you from getting your transcript? Normally transcripts are only withheld if there are outstanding fees owed. Is this a loan you have directly with the school? That sounds a bit odd to me. But if it is there may be policies the school has regarding loan forgiveness.
Second, I am not sure why you need the transcript for the reasons Yi stated.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 08:20:28 AM
I think Yi might be on to something. Since I didn't pass any of those classes at the other school, maybe I won't have to transfer anything.
:huh: If you didn't pass any classes, you wouldn't want the new school to know about that in the first place.
No kidding.
"Have you attended another college or university?" The answer is NO.
Especially if that's how the question was phrased. He might have enrolled somewhere else at some point, but it sounds like he didn't exactly attend.
They dont verify that stuff anyway, they're only concerned about established residency.
I was kind of surprised Delaware let me in after seeing my Marshall transcript :Embarrass:
They did shave off almost a year's worth of credits, but they still let me in.
Quote from: derspiess on June 19, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
I was kind of surprised Delaware let me in after seeing my Marshall transcript :Embarrass:
We aren't Marshall? :(
Hell no.
You guys are proving quite helpful. I have some cash, enough to pay for some new classes. I just can't pay the debt for the old ones (where I didn't graduate because was going insane). My primary goal is to become more sane and going to classes I hope will help that (along with all the medications I take).
Then now's as good a time as any to start over. Forget the other transcripts and coursework, start over and start small.
Doctor said I should take a full schedule which I don't think is wise. I think I'll take Yi's advice and take one class either English or History. History would be easier, English would teach me more. I can take a class as a "visiting student", but it won't count for anything.
I do warn you guys, if I start going to school you'll won't be able to partake in my wisdom as much on this board. Just so you know.
Just don't shoot it up.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 03:53:16 PM
Doctor said I should take a full schedule which I don't think is wise. I think I'll take Yi's advice and take one class either English or History. History would be easier, English would teach me more. I can take a class as a "visiting student", but it won't count for anything.
Why dont you talk to you doctor about your concerns and see what the doctor says.
Quote from: The Brain on June 19, 2014, 03:59:00 PM
Just don't shoot it up.
Universities do trigger warnings or whatever these days to prevent people from getting angry or offended. Situation: fixed.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
I do warn you guys, if I start going to school you'll won't be able to partake in my wisdom as much on this board. Just so you know.
That's a chance we're just going to have to take, Raz.
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 19, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 03:53:16 PM
Doctor said I should take a full schedule which I don't think is wise. I think I'll take Yi's advice and take one class either English or History. History would be easier, English would teach me more. I can take a class as a "visiting student", but it won't count for anything.
Why dont you talk to you doctor about your concerns and see what the doctor says.
I did. She simply said she didn't want me graduating at age 80. The social worker (who sees me once a week), agreed with me. Besides I don't have that much cash on hand. I have a little over a grand.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
Quote from: crazy canuck on June 19, 2014, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 03:53:16 PM
Doctor said I should take a full schedule which I don't think is wise. I think I'll take Yi's advice and take one class either English or History. History would be easier, English would teach me more. I can take a class as a "visiting student", but it won't count for anything.
Why dont you talk to you doctor about your concerns and see what the doctor says.
I did. She simply said she didn't want me graduating at age 80. The social worker (who sees me once a week), agreed with me. Besides I don't have that much cash on hand. I have a little over a grand.
Good luck to you then :)
But on the theme of not graduating when you are 80 why not start taking a course for credit now? Also, make sure you recieve whatever accomodations you need. One more thing to talk to your doctor/social worker about.
Quote from: Razgovory on June 19, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
I did. She simply said she didn't want me graduating at age 80. The social worker (who sees me once a week), agreed with me. Besides I don't have that much cash on hand. I have a little over a grand.
If you only have a grand, then it seems like the better option to me would be to try to get a job. You can then have more money and possibly afford to pay for an education. Also, don't let anyone trick you into taking out a ton of loans, especially not to some fake for-profit 'university'. You'll never get a job with a degree from one of those places.
This is a fairly well respected institution. My dad got a degree there.