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Idiotic way to go.
He had three young kids and as much talent as any American actor of his generation. It's fucking horrible.
WTF
:(
Quote from: WikiOn February 2nd 2014, Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead at his apartment. He died of aids
And it's gone.
QuoteAward-winning actor Philip Seymour Hoffman was found dead Sunday afternoon in his New York City apartment, a law-enforcement official said.
The New York Police Department is investigating, and the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner to determine exact cause of death. The official said Mr. Hoffman, 46 years old, was found dead at his apartment at 35 Bethune St. in the West Village neighborhood of Manhattan.
Mr. Hoffman won the Academy Award for Best Actor for the 2005 film, "Capote."
The actor was found in the bathroom of his fourth floor apartment in the Pickwick House around 11:15 a.m. by a screenwriter, who called 911, the official said.
Here's his building:
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/building/pickwick-house
Here's what you can get there for $3.1M, 3 years ago--
http://streeteasy.com/nyc/sale/480676-condo-35-bethune-street-west-village-new-york
Really sad to hear. A great actor.
Are you sure you didn't just watch Before The Devil Knows You're Dead? :(
This sucks.
Wouldn't have had him in my dead pool. :(
He was being treated for heroin addiction pretty recently but claimed to had beaten it.
Quote from: Queequeg on February 02, 2014, 02:10:40 PM
He was being treated for heroin addiction pretty recently but claimed to had beaten it.
Junkies always claim to have beaten their addiction demons, right up to the point when their heart stops.
What the shit. :(
GODDAMMIT
I've heard of him. :(
My first thought was "life imitates art," referring to his heroin addict role in Tropic Thunder.
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:o
:cry:
Fuckin idiot, fuckin idiot, fuckin idiot.... :weep:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 02, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
My first thought was "life imitates art," referring to his heroin addict role in Tropic Thunder.
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....Jesus.
For once I agree with Cal, this news just pisses me off.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 02, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
My first thought was "life imitates art," referring to his heroin addict role in Tropic Thunder.
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It was Jack Black in that movie, not him.
Ah fuck. This sucks. Still amazes me seeing people of means and clear intelligence getting caught by this :(
One of the best actors of his generation.
Quote from: The Larch on February 02, 2014, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 02, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
My first thought was "life imitates art," referring to his heroin addict role in Tropic Thunder.
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It was Jack Black in that movie, not him.
Us round eyes all look the same.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 02, 2014, 05:12:42 PM
Us round eyes all look the same.
Especially when the most you watch of a film is 25 minutes in the middle.
Quote from: celedhring on February 02, 2014, 05:10:05 PM
Ah fuck. This sucks. Still amazes me seeing people of means and clear intelligence getting caught by this :(
One of the best actors of his generation.
I think I understand the impulse. You get in to it a as young kid but, remarkably, and with a great deal of will, quit. Then, when you're older and think you can control it, you see if you can return to it on your own terms. You can't.
:(
I'm pretty much floored by this. I look a lot like him, and he's been my favorite American actor for years and years. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is appropriate.
Quote from: Queequeg on February 02, 2014, 06:16:23 PM
I'm pretty much floored by this. I look a lot like him, and he's been my favorite American actor for years and years. I'm starting to wonder how much of this is appropriate.
How much of what?
My emotional reaction?
It's certainly appropriate to have an emotional reaction here. Just so long as it doesn't interfere with your real life.
:(
Quote from: Neil on February 02, 2014, 07:07:53 PM
It's certainly appropriate to have an emotional reaction here. Just so long as it doesn't interfere with your real life.
Well you know how Spellus gets worked up over weird things.
Weight until murdt ingestigation I uber.
I sai he was mordor victimeee.
Quote from: Siege on February 03, 2014, 05:24:37 AM
I sai he was mordor victimeee.
Killed by a ringwraith?
Very sad, and just devastating to family and fans. Very sad too that damn drugs takes another life.
Quote from: The Larch on February 02, 2014, 05:00:43 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 02, 2014, 04:34:57 PM
My first thought was "life imitates art," referring to his heroin addict role in Tropic Thunder.
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It was Jack Black in that movie, not him.
The first movie I saw him in was Along Came Polly. In that movie he seemed like a poor man's Jack Black. But obviously once I saw him in a few other films I changed my mind.
50 bags of heroin found in his apartment!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/02/03/22557861-hoffman-found-with-50-bags-of-heroin-addiction-meds-sources?lite
I sure hope that was a decade supply.
Sucks for the estate that thousands of dollars worth of heroin are just going to go to waste.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 03, 2014, 05:56:43 PM
Sucks for the estate that thousands of dollars worth of heroin are just going to go to waste.
I know, right? Why not just save the bags for when his kids get hooked?
You are both horrible people and I hope you die painfully and alone.
Quote from: Habbaku on February 03, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on February 03, 2014, 05:56:43 PM
Sucks for the estate that thousands of dollars worth of heroin are just going to go to waste.
I know, right? Why not just save the bags for when his kids get hooked?
I'm actually not kidding. I guess if it's Hoffman, it doesn't matter too much in the grand scheme, but if my dad bought $50,000 worth of drugs and then proceeded to die before getting through the first bag, I'd be really pissed. Wouldn't you? I mean, at least if he went through $50,000 worth of drugs, that's his heroin. If he dies, it's mine, and heroin, like any other good, has value, except since it's illegal, the government's agents sell it for their own profit. I mean just destroy it.
Quote from: Queequeg on February 03, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
You are both horrible people and I hope you die painfully and alone.
I WAS SYMPATHIZING WITH HIS HEIRS. Hoffman blew thousands of dollars that they'll never see, and he didn't even get to use. It's
unfair.
You're the one being self-centered, Mr. But What About Mockingjay Part II.
*sigh*
Quote from: Queequeg on February 03, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
You are both horrible people and I hope you die painfully and alone.
Really, you get a little too involved, Spellus. Let it go, there are tragedies large and small in life. They are not life. If we can't laugh with black humor at the malevolence of it all then we might just as well curl up.
N.B. "what about Mockingjay" is what Greece said when she found out about Hoffman's death, which I thought was an insanely crass reaction to the end of a human life. Ironically, however, it seems I will be more likely to die alone.
That was sarcastic.
I know you didn't really mean it. :hug: I don't think you're really self-centered either. :)
Queenqueq getting torqued up over actors dying from substance abuse BECAUSE THAT NEVER HAPPENS is kinda like getting upset over tribal conflict in Africa. Happens every day.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 03, 2014, 09:06:53 PM
You're the one being self-centered, Mr. But What About Mockingjay Part II.
When did I ask this?
Quote from: CountDeMoney on February 03, 2014, 09:10:44 PM
Queenqueq getting torqued up over actors dying from substance abuse BECAUSE THAT NEVER HAPPENS is kinda like getting upset over tribal conflict in Africa. Happens every day.
It was more that he was my favorite actor in most of my favorite movies, including my favorite movie (Boogie Nights), and that he was kind of my doppelganger.
Quote from: Queequeg on February 03, 2014, 09:05:30 PM
You are both horrible people and I hope you die painfully and alone.
I was making fun of Ide and his Assburgers level of worry about the dollar amount of some lost drugs in the middle of a tragedy.
I hope you die... painlessly and surrounded by loved ones, but that they don't get a fucking dime.
Especially when heroin has been so cheap and of higher quality.
Glad to see that bombing the living piss out of the Taliban while we were tear-assing around Afghanistan looking for the shit the last 10 years really put a dent in the heroin trade. :lol:
I hope that after I die, people will say of me : "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."
Shit, I must be your hero. :P
Quote from: PDH on February 03, 2014, 09:08:45 PM
Really, you get a little too involved, Spellus. Let it go, there are tragedies large and small in life. They are not life. If we can't laugh with black humor at the malevolence of it all then we might just as well curl up.
Most Koreans don't really get black humor, or sarcasm, it makes my life difficult sometimes. <_<
I want to go to the country you're too dark for.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 03, 2014, 09:58:03 PM
I want to go to the country you're too dark for.
Here you go. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provo,_Utah)
Or don't, really. It's a blasted wasteland a thousand times more oppressive that the surrounding desert.
Jaron would know.
Sounds good to me.
Sounds like sitcom material. Ed, Tim, Sheilbh and Jaron are roommates in Utah and have to learn to deal with each other as well as their wacky Mormon neighbors.
A lot of Utah is fine. I love semi-deserts, actually.
50 bags of NYC heroin is worth probably $400, tops.
Why am I not surprised he knows this..
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
50 bags of NYC heroin is worth probably $400, tops.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Sounds like sitcom material. Ed, Tim, Sheilbh and Jaron are roommates in Utah and have to learn to deal with each other as well as their wacky Mormon neighbors.
Tim gets stabbed in the neck, me and Shiela discuss the English Civil War and Jaron does yard work.
Quote from: katmai on February 03, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
Why am I not surprised he knows this..Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
50 bags of NYC heroin is worth probably $400, tops.
Because he sold it to Hoffman on Thursday.
Quote from: Ed Anger on February 03, 2014, 10:25:30 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Sounds like sitcom material. Ed, Tim, Sheilbh and Jaron are roommates in Utah and have to learn to deal with each other as well as their wacky Mormon neighbors.
Tim gets stabbed in the neck, me and Shiela discuss the English Civil War and Jaron does yard work.
Ok, the producers would like to know, if they were to recast Spellus in the Tim role, could you keep your murderous impulses in check? Legal liability issues and what not.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on February 03, 2014, 10:55:36 PM
Ok, the producers would like to know, if they were to recast Spellus in the Tim role, could you keep your murderous impulses in check? Legal liability issues and what not.
Why you assuming Ed would be the one to kill Tim? :P
:blink:
Quote from: katmai on February 03, 2014, 10:24:46 PM
Why am I not surprised he knows this..Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 10:20:12 PM
50 bags of NYC heroin is worth probably $400, tops.
Well, a $50-80 bundle (ten bags rubber-banded together) of NYC/Newark/Philly heroin is sold at basically the same price, but more stepped-on, in Hartford Conn. or Springfield Mass., and then sold for $150-175 in Vermont, and then re-sold for $20-25 an individual bag. Which is still much cheaper than its equivalent in prescription opioids.
WTF
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
Well, a $50-80 bundle (ten bags rubber-banded together) of NYC/Newark/Philly heroin is sold at basically the same price, but more stepped-on, in Hartford Conn. or Springfield Mass., and then sold for $150-175 in Vermont, and then re-sold for $20-25 an individual bag. Which is still much cheaper than its equivalent in prescription opioids.
But which gives you more bang for the buck? Say you wanted to stretch out $200, what would you buy?
I was hoping they'd make a sequel to Charlie Wilson's War.
Quote from: alfred russel on February 03, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 11:02:05 PM
Well, a $50-80 bundle (ten bags rubber-banded together) of NYC/Newark/Philly heroin is sold at basically the same price, but more stepped-on, in Hartford Conn. or Springfield Mass., and then sold for $150-175 in Vermont, and then re-sold for $20-25 an individual bag. Which is still much cheaper than its equivalent in prescription opioids.
But which gives you more bang for the buck? Say you wanted to stretch out $200, what would you buy?
If you had $200 and decent connections, you'd go to one of the big heroin cities and "buy by weight," i.e. bypass the bagging system, and buy by the gram. You could probably get 2-3 grams for that amount of money. While in theory a bundle should = a gram, bags tend to be both lighter and more stepped-on (adulterated) in practice. So people who have the resources to buy by weight generally do.
Mihali, I'm glad I didn't know you earlier in life. I think you are a bad influence. :)
To put Hoffman's 50 bags in perspective, I've recently talked with a couple different people (in Vermont) who had been shooting 20-30 bags a day at their peak.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 11:20:13 PM
To put Hoffman's 50 bags in perspective, I've recently talked with a couple different people (in Vermont) who had been shooting 20-30 bags a day at their peak.
On the other hand, Mihali, when I am diagnosed with a terminal disease, the two of us are flying first class to Bangkok and we are going to go harder than rock stars. :)
Mihali, you're the most fun person I don't know.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on February 03, 2014, 11:15:50 PM
Quote from: alfred russel on February 03, 2014, 11:07:26 PM
But which gives you more bang for the buck? Say you wanted to stretch out $200, what would you buy?
If you had $200 and decent connections, you'd go to one of the big heroin cities and "buy by weight," i.e. bypass the bagging system, and buy by the gram. You could probably get 2-3 grams for that amount of money. While in theory a bundle should = a gram, bags tend to be both lighter and more stepped-on (adulterated) in practice. So people who have the resources to buy by weight generally do.
Finally, someone who knows how to solve the knapsack problem. :lol:
Mihali saved this thread. :)
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/4-Suspects-Questioned-Hoffman-NYC-Heroin-Sales-Sources-243622861.html
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Suspects Arrested as Police Investigate Heroin in Philip Seymour Hoffman's Apartment
By Jonathan Dienst
Wednesday, Feb 5, 2014 | Updated 10:47 PM EST
Several suspects were arrested at a Manhattan building as investigators tried to determine whether they sold drugs to actor Philip Seymour Hoffman, who was found dead of an apparent overdose.
Two law enforcement sources said Hoffman's phone number was found on the cell phone of one of the suspects.
Three suspects -- Robert Vineberg, 57, Max Rosenblum and Juliana Luchkiw, both 22 -- were arrested on drug charges Tuesday after police searched three apartments in the Mott Street building and allegedly found about 300 bags of heroin stamped "Red Bull" and "Black List," along with three small bags of cocaine and some unidentified pills, according to NBC News.
A fourth suspect initially named by police is not being charged because he does not live in the building and investigators cannot link him to the case, sources said.
All three suspects appeared before a judge Wednesday and entered not guilty pleas through their lawyers. They're being held until their next court appearance.
Luchkiw's lawyer, Stephen Turano, said his client had no relationship with Hoffman and that she was "in the wrong place at the wrong time." He said he believes the large amounts of recovered heroin were found in the other apartments.
Rosenblum and Luchkiw are a couple and live in the same apartment. Turano said only small amounts of cocaine and marijuana were recovered from their apartment, not heroin.
Police are looking into whether the suspects supplied drugs to Hoffman, who was found dead in the bathroom of his West Village apartment Sunday with a syringe in his arm, sources say. The Oscar-winning actor had been dead several hours when he was found by a friend and is suspected to have died of an overdose.
The medical examiner said Wednesday that the autopsy was inconclusive as to the cause and manner of death. Authorities are awaiting further test results, including toxicology.
Dozens of bags of heroin were found in Hoffman's apartment, along with prescription drugs and a bag of white powder police were testing for cocaine. Some of the heroin found there was stamped "Ace of Spades."
Hoffman's last known contacts on Saturday night were with his longtime girlfriend around 8 p.m., and a screenwriter friend about 9 p.m., officials said.
Sources say bank records show Hoffman withdrew $1,200 from an ATM at a supermarket near his West Village home between 8 p.m. and 9 p.m. the night he died. A witness told investigators he saw Hoffman speaking with two men wearing messenger bags as he withdrew the money.
Detectives are looking into whether he bought the drugs the night of his death.
Hoffman, who was 46 and had three children, won the Oscar for Best Actor in 2006 for his starring role in "Capote." He was nominated for Oscars three other times, including for 2012's "The Master," and he earned two Tony nominations for his work on Broadway.
Hoffman spoke over the years about past struggles with drug addiction. After 23 years sober, he admitted in interviews last year to falling off the wagon and developing a heroin problem that led to a stint in rehab.
--Katy Tur contributed to this story