You're independently wealthy, relatively free of social attachments or able to determine where you go. This is probably the place you're going to spend most of your life.
I would probably go Antalya, or a smaller place on the south-east Aegean coast, including Rhodes.
Down South America way. If I'm young and have my libido, Rio. Otherwise I'll wear a white suit and hat and tell bullshit stories in Quito. :)
I'm not sure. Ideal would be a less crowded version of southern California, but still in America. Doesn't exist.
It would definitely not be in a non-English speaking country.
1 - nice weather
2 - clean water
3 - civilized supermarkets
4 - nearby airport
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 29, 2014, 03:20:56 AM
I'm not sure. Ideal would be a less crowded version of southern California, but still in America. Doesn't exist.
It would definitely not be in a non-English speaking country.
Perth in Western Australia would get you closest to that, I think.
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 29, 2014, 03:25:31 AM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 29, 2014, 03:20:56 AM
I'm not sure. Ideal would be a less crowded version of southern California, but still in America. Doesn't exist.
It would definitely not be in a non-English speaking country.
Perth in Western Australia would get you closest to that, I think.
Perth is nice
weather is good, beach is great, local wines, surfing, boats
I've gotten drunk there pretty often, there is a belgian beer bar in the CBD around the corner from the corporate offices.. getting hammered on trappists in perth is worth the hangover
Quote from: Grinning_Colossus on January 29, 2014, 03:25:31 AM
Perth in Western Australia would get you closest to that, I think.
I would stick out every time I opened my mouth in public. I'm not too comfortable with that.
I would consider Australia but probably ultimately compromise on climate. Or buy two houses.
Quote from: Viking on January 29, 2014, 03:23:51 AM
1 - nice weather
2 - clean water
3 - civilized supermarkets
4 - nearby airport
Costa Rica
I believe so.
Since the question stipulated that he's wealthy, why not Hawaii?
I would probably do a snowbird kind of deal: summer in a temperate city (Paris?), winter in the tropics.
Madeira. Mild climate, beautiful landscape.
Yeah, Costa Rica is a lovely country.
I think I'd go for the Dordogne though. Good food, nice weather (but with some variety), close to the sea and to skiing. Not too many French people.
What took you to Costa Rica Guppy?
Cornwall maybe.
Warm weather, rural, pretty. Though maybe a bit much rain outside of summer given it is on the west coast. Northern New Zealand somewhere maybe. Or France but for the French.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 29, 2014, 04:40:50 AM
What took you to Costa Rica Guppy?
Just had a couple of weeks holiday there - maybe 15 years ago. Loved it. Beach, forests, volcanos. Don't really know it well enough to think of it has a retirement place.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on January 29, 2014, 04:17:58 AM
I would probably do a snowbird kind of deal: summer in a temperate city (Paris?), winter in the tropics.
Summers, specially hot ones, are awful in Paris, as in any major city. Cool weather is preferable in these places, even more so for old people.
I might commute, summer in England followed by summer in New Zealand :cool:
Languedoc. And if I win the lottery a pied a terre in St Andrews.
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
Normandie. Cool summer temps and I can pretend I'm defending a hedgerow.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
I'd take you out for some drinks and local food, in order to repay the Philly cheesesteaks. :cheers:
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
You can't beat San Sebastian IMO. The food :licklips:
Nice.
It is France but with amazing pizza.
Like the other Brits, probably South of France.
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 29, 2014, 09:28:05 AM
Like the other Brits, probably South of France.
I will challenge you to a game of Pétanque.
Quote from: The Larch on January 29, 2014, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
I'd take you out for some drinks and local food, in order to repay the Philly cheesesteaks. :cheers:
You can take me to that tapas stand that has a whole bunch of plaques commemorating fallen members of the Guardia Civil and with walls covered in badges of different departments across Spain... oh wait.
;)
Belize.
Or a wet county in Mississippi where there's cheap dirt, a brewery, and an Orthodox church.
I'll retire to my humble estancia in Buenos Aires, to be among my people.
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
I'll retire to my humble estancia in Buenos Aires, to be among my people.
Your in-laws doing ok down there? I ask because it seems like the Argie economy is going into the shitter.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
I'll retire to my humble estancia in Buenos Aires, to be among my people.
Your in-laws doing ok down there? I ask because it seems like the Argie economy is going into the shitter.
Yeah everyone on my Twitter's panicking about emerging markets and Argentina (again) seems worst :(
NYC or LA, I guess. Probably LA.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
I'll retire to my humble estancia in Buenos Aires, to be among my people.
Your in-laws doing ok down there? I ask because it seems like the Argie economy is going into the shitter.
They're used to it. Some are probably positioned to benefit, long term.
But seriously, I'd love to go back to Spain. I'd really like to have one trip going south into Andalusia and Murcia, and another going north into Pais Vasco, Cantabria, Asturias, and Galicia. (Assuming I fly into Madrid.)
Quote from: Queequeg on January 29, 2014, 03:13:04 AM
You're independently wealthy, relatively free of social attachments or able to determine where you go. This is probably the place you're going to spend most of your life.
I would probably go Antalya, or a smaller place on the south-east Aegean coast, including Rhodes.
I have some thoughts on retirement, but they all revolve around being on a fixed government pension and having social attachments through my kids. Under those circumstances I'm somewhat conflicted. Current thoughts are to maintain a permanent residence in Edmonton, but have a place in Europe, probably Italy, that we spend several months per year.
Under the circumstances you outlined... that's easy. I build a fabulous wilderness retreat in Yukon. If it's retirement, probably stick to some place within an hour or two of Whitehorse so you maintain access to a first class hospital.
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:56:37 AM
Quote from: The Larch on January 29, 2014, 09:11:40 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
I'd take you out for some drinks and local food, in order to repay the Philly cheesesteaks. :cheers:
You can take me to that tapas stand that has a whole bunch of plaques commemorating fallen members of the Guardia Civil and with walls covered in badges of different departments across Spain... oh wait.
;)
Cop shrines ain't our thing. :P
I don't know. I'm thinking somewhere with no humidity.
So, Arizona?
Big Sur
Chile. I'm thinking the mountain lakes north of Puerto Montt.
Preferably far away from the cold, but also from too much heat. Perhaps a nice wooden house in the fjords of Norway during the summer, and a beach house on a caribbean island during winter.
Quote from: Sheilbh on January 29, 2014, 10:06:11 AM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 10:04:27 AM
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 10:00:19 AM
I'll retire to my humble estancia in Buenos Aires, to be among my people.
Your in-laws doing ok down there? I ask because it seems like the Argie economy is going into the shitter.
Yeah everyone on my Twitter's panicking about emerging markets and Argentina (again) seems worst :(
We don't get much news here on Argentina, but one telegram showed up today: "Governor fires 340 employees via YouTube". :P
Dunno. Maybe England. Italy is nice but I just can't trust that amount of grease.
Some kind of big city, maybe New York or Berlin or Singapore or so.
Bilbao area of Spain, California Coast up by PDH.
Some time in a major city, some time in pleasant rural environment, some time near my direct descendants and other close family, where ever they end up.
Away from languishites.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 01:44:21 PM
Away from languishites.
You're already retired, and you're already away from languishites. Mission accomplished :cheers:
Spicy and Cal are almost intolerably close.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
Spicy and Cal are almost intolerably close.
That would unsettle me as well.
The Danakil Depression for me. I need to get ready for the afterlife.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 29, 2014, 01:47:05 PM
Spicy and Cal are almost intolerably close.
And we've nearly triangulated your position.
Heh, I'm close to retirement but haven't given much thought to where I want to spend a lot of time. My brother and his wife spend winter in Florida, and I have friends in Arizona. So I'd be going to one of those, and I'd also like to check out Southern California.
If money were no object, I'd spend my summer in Michigan's Keweenaw Peninsula, autumn in Paris, winter here in Florida and spring in...
London, maybe? :unsure: Robert Browning made it sound nice.
One of my favourite pubs was the Robert Browning. Last time I went it had been renamed the Eagle. Though they hadn't changed any of the decoration so it still featured two Robert Browning stained glass windows and one of Elizabeth too.
Sandy ego.
Also disappointed that the first two states KRonn mentioned are two that often vie for worst state in the union.
Quote from: garbon on January 29, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
Sandy ego.
Also disappointed that the first two states KRonn mentioned are two that often vie for worst state in the union.
I've only spent minutes inside of Arizona, so I can't speak to that one, but Florida? :huh:
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 29, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
Sandy ego.
Also disappointed that the first two states KRonn mentioned are two that often vie for worst state in the union.
I've only spent minutes inside of Arizona, so I can't speak to that one, but Florida? :huh:
https://twitter.com/_FloridaMan
Quote from: Gups on January 29, 2014, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 09:07:07 AM
Somewhere mild but rainy, where I can be calm and do some thinking... I've never been, but I'd be willing to give Atlantic/Biscayan Spain a try, maybe Asturias? :) Or Galicia, of course, not to snub Larch. :P And I actually have a long-lost friend originally from A Coruña who might give me advice.
You can't beat San Sebastian IMO. The food :licklips:
San Sebastián is great, yeah. You can have fantastic food anywhere in Spain, by the way.
When I was a kid my dad took me on a summer trip camping through the North. We visited Euskadi, Cantabria, Asturias, Galicia and came back via Castille & León. Two thousand miles of mild oceanic weather, lots of interesting history and ridiculously good food. One of the best vacations ever.
Surprised no one is saying Sardinia, Sicily or Tuscany.
Maggot cheese, mobsters and wops.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 29, 2014, 06:03:43 PM
Surprised no one is saying Sardinia, Sicily or Tuscany.
All of them are nice.
To be honest I could happily retire anywhere (reasonably pro-gay) by the sea south of La Rochelle.
Staying in North America, I think I wouldn't mind an unconstrained version the Canadian snowbird lifestyle. :Canuck:
Maybe 8 months split between Montréal and Nova Scotia, 4 months somewhere nice in Florida -- the Keys sound great, but of the places I've been I'd pick St. Pete Beach (where there are, coincidentally, plenty of Canadian snowbirds and a couple of Francophone motels). Home of the illustrious Don CeSar (sic) Hotel:
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.fineartamerica.com%2Fimages-medium-large%2Fdon-cesar-hotel-st-pete-beach-florida-john-black.jpg&hash=93c1c4345b461af52cd81952c03b011f81c5bf7a)
Quote from: derspiess on January 29, 2014, 05:31:41 PM
Quote from: garbon on January 29, 2014, 05:26:34 PM
Sandy ego.
Also disappointed that the first two states KRonn mentioned are two that often vie for worst state in the union.
I've only spent minutes inside of Arizona, so I can't speak to that one, but Florida? :huh:
Garbon refuses to go anywhere without his hoodie. :P
Maybe Flagstaff AZ, where it's dry but has all the seasons in reasonable doses, or Nantucket Island, where I can drink myself to death in dreary New England weather.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 29, 2014, 09:14:33 PM
or Nantucket Island, where I can drink myself to death in dreary New England weather.
Okay, CountdeCheever. :P
Quote from: Capetan Mihali on January 29, 2014, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 29, 2014, 09:14:33 PM
or Nantucket Island, where I can drink myself to death in dreary New England weather.
Okay, CountdeCheever. :P
Well, we are talking retirement. On a long enough timeline it's all hospice anyway.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 29, 2014, 06:03:43 PM
Surprised no one is saying Sardinia, Sicily or Tuscany.
I realize I only mentioned "Italy" in my realistic retirement scenario, but I actually meant Tuscany.
Being on an island would be a bit limiting.
RyanAir.
Quote from: Barrister on January 30, 2014, 12:30:24 AM
Being on an island would be a bit limiting.
We keep Germans retirees in the Balearic and Canary Islands, but we let them out from time to time.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 29, 2014, 06:03:43 PM
Surprised no one is saying Sardinia, Sicily or Tuscany.
I prefer Umbria to Tuscany. Less North American tourists. I would also consider something on the Adriatic coast. Even less English speaking tourists.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 29, 2014, 06:03:43 PM
Surprised no one is saying Sardinia, Sicily or Tuscany.
I get enough toxic waste during my working years, was hoping to get away from it in retirement.
Quote from: Queequeg on January 30, 2014, 01:57:35 AM
RyanAir.
Is this like the modern version of getting put on an ice floe and left to drift away?
Maybe he would like to live like George Clooney in Up in the Air, minus the firing people bit.
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 30, 2014, 10:32:55 PM
Maybe he would like to live like George Clooney in Up in the Air, minus the firing people bit.
But why RyanAir?
Totnes, Devon, UK
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That's a lovely town but too hilly if your hip goes in your old age.
Quote from: Gups on January 31, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
That's a lovely town but too hilly if your hip goes in your old age.
Walking the hills will keep your hips in shape. ;)
Now that I have thought about it, to be realistic I am probably going to retire right here. Unless my kids all move away or something.
8 months in Ontario and 4 in Thailand.
Quote from: merithyn on January 31, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 31, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
That's a lovely town but too hilly if your hip goes in your old age.
Walking the hills will keep your hips in shape. ;)
Until you slip and fall (like I did last night as my one pair of boots have gotten slick on the bottom and there was a random patch of wetness in entrance to subway. :(
Quote from: merithyn on January 31, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 31, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
That's a lovely town but too hilly if your hip goes in your old age.
Walking the hills will keep your hips in shape. ;)
And if you do fall Max will be a lot younger he can push you around.
Some small town in northern Italy probably. Like Bergamo or Mantua :wub:
Quote from: merithyn on January 31, 2014, 08:51:24 AM
Quote from: Gups on January 31, 2014, 04:03:30 AM
That's a lovely town but too hilly if your hip goes in your old age.
Walking the hills will keep your hips in shape. ;)
Listen to your body
Nice motte.
To be honest, I can't see me ever wanting to live outside the States (travel extensively, yeah, but live overseas? No thanks).
The problem is, that most of the places in the U.S. I'd like to live from a cultural and social standpoint are places where I'm not crazy about the climate.
Quote from: dps on February 01, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
To be honest, I can't see me ever wanting to live outside the States (travel extensively, yeah, but live overseas? No thanks).
The pioneer spirit is strong with this one.
Quote from: The Brain on February 01, 2014, 07:15:52 PM
Quote from: dps on February 01, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
To be honest, I can't see me ever wanting to live outside the States (travel extensively, yeah, but live overseas? No thanks).
The pioneer spirit is strong with this one.
So is the spirit for indoor plumbing, central air and the concept of living space square footage that utilizes a comma.
I want to change my plan. I would go wherever the spirit moves me.
Quote from: dps on February 01, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
To be honest, I can't see me ever wanting to live outside the States (travel extensively, yeah, but live overseas? No thanks).
The problem is, that most of the places in the U.S. I'd like to live from a cultural and social standpoint are places where I'm not crazy about the climate.
I feel the same way. I'm bred for SC, not for CT. The Pac NW is probably ok thanks to the ocean current, but New England? Fuck that shit. They make the most hideous noises with their mouths too.
:lol:
Quote from: Admiral Yi on February 02, 2014, 01:30:15 AM
I want to change my plan. I would go wherever the spirit moves me.
If the spirit moved you to move to Iowa, I wouldn't trust the spirit anymore.
Quote from: katmai on February 02, 2014, 01:36:05 AM
:lol:
I'm confused about CT having appeal from a cultural/social standpoint.
Begur, Girona, SPA
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Some other village in the whereabouts works too, it's a truely lovely area.
My Girona! :mad:
San Juan islands, Olympic Peninsula, Methow Valley (Washington State), or Southeast Alaska somewhere (probably Juneau or Ketchikan).
But in reality, I am probably on a course to share the CdM retirement plan.
I'm pretty sure I'll never see retirement and that I'll have to work til I drop. The yearly orange envelope containing my retirement esitmates says I can go 2050 but I'm sure they'll keep pushing that limit in front of me like a carrot on a stick.
Quote from: garbon on February 02, 2014, 09:36:27 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 02, 2014, 01:36:05 AM
:lol:
I'm confused about CT having appeal from a cultural/social standpoint.
Bear in mind that my conception of everything north of Baltimore is pretty undifferentiated.
It's not like you treat SC, NC, GA, and AL any differently. :P
I think you meant to separate those. I have different thoughts on SC&NC vs. AL&GA.
I'm curious as to what they are. I still say it's all East Coast Elites once you get past Maryland. Certainly once you get to Princeton. Then it's just ivy-covered brick walls and skyscrapers and bad accents and snowstorms till Bangor.
That's because you are lacking adequate information. There is quite a bit of variety in that stretch of country. I don't even want to know what broad generalizations you draw on California.
It's a 24/7 porno sex party north of San Diego, but around SF it gets pretty gay. It's like that till you reach the Oregon border, where it stays gay but gets smelly, before straight people reappear around Portland. South of San Diego it's Aztlan and run by the Juarez Cartel, who provide cocaine for the sex party. The deserts of Sacramento are run by an armed Republican insurgency and led by a deathless robot that escaped from a lab in Palo Alto. They extort supplies from the decent coastal folks by turning the electricity from Hoover Dam on and off, and by starting forest fires. Everybody has been in at least three feature films.
Besides the fact that straight people start reappearing as far south as Redding...Ide has it about right.
Well, and Hoover Dam is actually controlled by the Vegas Casino/Prostitution Mafia...he must have mixed that up with control of all the water from the Hetch Hetchy reservoir.
I'm confused on why he drifted into describing Mexico.
Quote from: garbon on February 02, 2014, 03:18:32 PM
I'm confused on why he drifted into describing Mexico.
I just presume that like many easterners, he probably figures that Mexico has overrun most of SoCal already.
South of San Diego is Mexico. ^_^
I meant more in spirit. :P
I was pretty explicit about that. :D
I'm just sad I wasn't able to work in a mean reference to Stanford. I was going along the lines of "it's less of a traditional college than it is a P.O. box, but don't let Harvard and Yale know."
I'm most proud of the "deserts of Sacramento."
Not really true...but if everything about the mega drought that Cali going through right now is true...might be very soon.
Ide's understanding of Oregon is completely opposite of reality.
Outside of a small enclave in Eugene I don't think there are ANY gays south of Portland.
Quote from: sbr on February 02, 2014, 03:45:41 PM
Ide's understanding of Oregon is completely opposite of reality.
Outside of a small enclave in Eugene I don't think there are ANY gays south of Portland.
Indeed. And with Portland is so permeated with weirdness, that it would be impossible to be sure one way or the other.
In Portland it doesn't matter what sex they are, your gas gets pumped for you by law.
Quote from: garbon on February 02, 2014, 09:36:27 AM
Quote from: katmai on February 02, 2014, 01:36:05 AM
:lol:
I'm confused about CT having appeal from a cultural/social standpoint.
Sorry I was laughing at the hideous noises comment from our local yokel.
Quote from: Ideologue on February 02, 2014, 04:14:01 PM
In Portland it doesn't matter what sex they are, your gas gets pumped for you by law.
Hate double entendres <_<
Well NJ also requires such and I don't think that says anything salacious about that place.
@Sheilbh - doesn't the history of homosexual communication rely on those?
Ah. That explains a lot then :P
Idealk returment location?
Tel A viv, and jopefulle the nukes miss u.