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Poll
Question: Favorite film by director Paul Verhoeven?
Option 1: Turkish Delight votes: 1
Option 2: Keetje Tippel votes: 0
Option 3: Soldier of Orange votes: 5
Option 4: The fourth Man votes: 0
Option 5: Robocop votes: 12
Option 6: Total Recall votes: 12
Option 7: Basic Instinct votes: 1
Option 8: Showgirls votes: 3
Option 9: Starship Troopers votes: 8
Option 10: Hollow Man votes: 0
Option 11: Black Book votes: 0
Option 12: Other votes: 0
Option 13: I'm a joyless motherfucker who can't so much as admit that Robocop is wonderful votes: 2
Title: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Queequeg on January 27, 2014, 07:32:36 PM
Threeway tie between Robocop, Soldiers of Orange and Black Book for me, might vote for Soldiers of Orange because Robocop will get it's share of votes. 
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
Bad poll, so can't answer.

I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.

You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Sheilbh on January 27, 2014, 07:40:45 PM
Total Recall :wub:
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:43:12 PM
BTW, I didn't realize that Starship Troopers was a Verhoeven movie.  His movies have some flaws (sometimes serious ones), but that one is so unrelentingly bad that I never thought for a moment it might be one of his.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: LaCroix on January 27, 2014, 07:43:22 PM
voted before i read the last option  :(
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Ed Anger on January 27, 2014, 07:44:06 PM
I forgot about Total Recall. Younger Sharon Stone.....
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: dps on January 27, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:40:07 PM

I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.

You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.

Flesh + Blood isn't set during the 30 Years War. 

Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: sbr on January 27, 2014, 07:48:10 PM
I was fully prepared to come in with my standard 'I haven't seen any of these' but was surprised to see that I had seen a few.

Close call between Total Recall and Robocop.  I had to go Robocop though.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Liep on January 27, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
Starship Troopers. With Total Recall as a close second. ST is just the right amount of bad, at least it has entertained me many times.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Admiral Yi on January 27, 2014, 07:55:37 PM
Robocop is watchable. Total Recall, Starship Troopers, and Showgirls are crap.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
Quote from: dps on January 27, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:40:07 PM

I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.

You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.

Flesh + Blood isn't set during the 30 Years War.

I could have sworn it was, but you are right, and I was just mis-remembering its setting.  It was set in the Italian Wars a hundred+ years earlier.

Don't see many good movies in that setting, either.  :P
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Grinning_Colossus on January 27, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
Starship Troopers was meant to be bad. It was conceived as the sort of movie that a fascist society like the one depicted in the film would produce as a propaganda piece.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Ed Anger on January 27, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
I liked Doogie Howser, space Gestapo.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2014, 08:34:41 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 27, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
I liked Doogie Howser, space Gestapo.

The better gag would've been Doogie Howser, SS.

Anyway, fuck Verhoeven.  He's not a household name like ROBERT FUCKING ZEMECKIS
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 27, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Highest quality- Total Recall
Most entertaining- Showgirls
Suppose I should see again- Robocop
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: garbon on January 27, 2014, 09:02:40 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 27, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Highest quality- Total Recall
Most entertaining- Showgirls
Suppose I should see again- Robocop


Most formative for me: Basic Instinct
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Viking on January 27, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
 1 Total Recall
2 RoboCop
3 Starship Troopers (anybody who still thinks this isn't a parody of fascism still doesn't get it)
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Capetan Mihali on January 27, 2014, 09:07:29 PM
RoboCop, after not seeing it for a while, really stands up.  And it seems like half the baddies/best characters from Twin Peaks are in there!
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Queequeg on January 27, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Who besides George Clooney's cousin?
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: katmai on January 27, 2014, 09:21:52 PM
Quote from: Queequeg on January 27, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Who besides George Clooney's cousin?

Well the great Ray Wise for one.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting.  Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie).  Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish.  Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Caliga on January 27, 2014, 09:30:53 PM
Total Recall for the one liners.

GIF DEES PEOPLE AYRE
SEE YOU AT DA POTTY RICHTA
CONSIDDADATTADIVOHSE
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting.  Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie).  Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish.  Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).

What wasn't humorous was how dumbass kept chasing Denise Richardson like an imbecile, when Dina Meyer was so much hotter and chasing him.  Talk about outlandish.

Despite its ubercampiness, it does get bonus points for Michael Fucking Ironside, as with all things that have Michael Fucking Ironside.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Josephus on January 27, 2014, 10:19:21 PM
I voted for Showgirls.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: FunkMonk on January 27, 2014, 10:23:22 PM
Robocop, easily.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: DontSayBanana on January 27, 2014, 10:34:14 PM
Can't decide between Total Recall and Robocop.  Total Recall was the better movie of the two, but Robocop toys pretty much filled up my playtime as a kid. :wub:

God, I miss the '90s- when parents could get their 9-year-old kids Robocop and Predator toys and not have to worry about getting dragged in for child study team meetings.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 27, 2014, 11:28:28 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Dina Meyer was so much hotter

Nuh uh.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: fhdz on January 27, 2014, 11:30:44 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting.  Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie).  Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish.  Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).

What wasn't humorous was how dumbass kept chasing Denise Richardson like an imbecile, when Dina Meyer was so much hotter and chasing him.  Talk about outlandish.

Despite its ubercampiness, it does get bonus points for Michael Fucking Ironside, as with all things that have Michael Fucking Ironside.

I liked the part when all the Space Mormons got slaughtered.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Drakken on January 28, 2014, 12:04:21 AM
I'm erect. Why aren't you erect?
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: garbon on January 28, 2014, 12:05:37 AM
Quote from: Drakken on January 28, 2014, 12:04:21 AM
I'm erect. Why aren't you erect?

Is that a seduction community pick up line?

edit: Better would have been does the seduction community now use that as a pick up line? -_-
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: The Brain on January 28, 2014, 01:51:51 AM
Starship Troopers, then Robocop.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: celedhring on January 28, 2014, 04:55:04 AM
The hipster option is The Fourth Man, but I'll go with Robocop - I just enjoy it way too much.

I like Starship Troopers too, but I agree Robocop does what ST wants to do so much better.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Maladict on January 28, 2014, 05:15:39 AM
Not a big Verhoeven fan, but probably Turks Fruit.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Agelastus on January 28, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
Flesh and Blood should definitely have been in the poll; I'd still have voted for Robocop but I do consider it to be his second best film.

It appears that 1985 (Flesh and Blood) to 1990 (Total Recall) was his best period.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: The Brain on January 28, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
Flesh and Blood is flawed.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Eddie Teach on January 28, 2014, 01:00:27 PM
Quote from: The Brain on January 28, 2014, 12:41:35 PM
Flesh and Blood is flawed.

Art imitates life.
Title: Re: Favorite Paul Verhoeven Movie?
Post by: Darth Wagtaros on January 28, 2014, 07:14:34 PM
Robocop sucked least of the big bag of suck that is that euro-hack's pathetic career.