Poll
Question:
Favorite film by director Paul Verhoeven?
Option 1: Turkish Delight
votes: 1
Option 2: Keetje Tippel
votes: 0
Option 3: Soldier of Orange
votes: 5
Option 4: The fourth Man
votes: 0
Option 5: Robocop
votes: 12
Option 6: Total Recall
votes: 12
Option 7: Basic Instinct
votes: 1
Option 8: Showgirls
votes: 3
Option 9: Starship Troopers
votes: 8
Option 10: Hollow Man
votes: 0
Option 11: Black Book
votes: 0
Option 12: Other
votes: 0
Option 13: I'm a joyless motherfucker who can't so much as admit that Robocop is wonderful
votes: 2
Threeway tie between Robocop, Soldiers of Orange and Black Book for me, might vote for Soldiers of Orange because Robocop will get it's share of votes.
Bad poll, so can't answer.
I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.
You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.
Total Recall :wub:
BTW, I didn't realize that Starship Troopers was a Verhoeven movie. His movies have some flaws (sometimes serious ones), but that one is so unrelentingly bad that I never thought for a moment it might be one of his.
voted before i read the last option :(
I forgot about Total Recall. Younger Sharon Stone.....
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.
You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.
Flesh + Blood isn't set during the 30 Years War.
I was fully prepared to come in with my standard 'I haven't seen any of these' but was surprised to see that I had seen a few.
Close call between Total Recall and Robocop. I had to go Robocop though.
Starship Troopers. With Total Recall as a close second. ST is just the right amount of bad, at least it has entertained me many times.
Robocop is watchable. Total Recall, Starship Troopers, and Showgirls are crap.
Quote from: dps on January 27, 2014, 07:47:13 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 07:40:07 PM
I enjoyed Flesh+Blood more than even Robocop; certainly more than Soldier of Orange.
You just don't see many well-done 30 years war movies.
Flesh + Blood isn't set during the 30 Years War.
I could have sworn it was, but you are right, and I was just mis-remembering its setting. It was set in the Italian Wars a hundred+ years earlier.
Don't see many good movies in that setting, either. :P
Starship Troopers was meant to be bad. It was conceived as the sort of movie that a fascist society like the one depicted in the film would produce as a propaganda piece.
I liked Doogie Howser, space Gestapo.
Quote from: Ed Anger on January 27, 2014, 07:59:11 PM
I liked Doogie Howser, space Gestapo.
The better gag would've been
Doogie Howser, SS.
Anyway, fuck Verhoeven. He's not a household name like ROBERT FUCKING ZEMECKIS
Highest quality- Total Recall
Most entertaining- Showgirls
Suppose I should see again- Robocop
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on January 27, 2014, 08:44:10 PM
Highest quality- Total Recall
Most entertaining- Showgirls
Suppose I should see again- Robocop
Most formative for me: Basic Instinct
1 Total Recall
2 RoboCop
3 Starship Troopers (anybody who still thinks this isn't a parody of fascism still doesn't get it)
RoboCop, after not seeing it for a while, really stands up. And it seems like half the baddies/best characters from Twin Peaks are in there!
Who besides George Clooney's cousin?
Quote from: Queequeg on January 27, 2014, 09:16:15 PM
Who besides George Clooney's cousin?
Well the great Ray Wise for one.
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting. Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie). Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish. Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).
Total Recall for the one liners.
GIF DEES PEOPLE AYRE
SEE YOU AT DA POTTY RICHTA
CONSIDDADATTADIVOHSE
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting. Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie). Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish. Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).
What wasn't humorous was how dumbass kept chasing Denise Richardson like an imbecile, when Dina Meyer was so much hotter and chasing him. Talk about outlandish.
Despite its ubercampiness, it does get bonus points for Michael Fucking Ironside, as with all things that have Michael Fucking Ironside.
I voted for Showgirls.
Robocop, easily.
Can't decide between Total Recall and Robocop. Total Recall was the better movie of the two, but Robocop toys pretty much filled up my playtime as a kid. :wub:
God, I miss the '90s- when parents could get their 9-year-old kids Robocop and Predator toys and not have to worry about getting dragged in for child study team meetings.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on January 27, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Quote from: grumbler on January 27, 2014, 09:26:31 PM
Starship Troopers is such a ham-handed parody of fascism that I don't see how people find it good or even interesting. Robocop does the same thing, but much better (which is one of the reasons I didn't realize ST was even a Verhoeven movie). Satire really only works when it is subtle or outlandish. Satire that screams "this is satire" doesn't work (at least for me).
What wasn't humorous was how dumbass kept chasing Denise Richardson like an imbecile, when Dina Meyer was so much hotter and chasing him. Talk about outlandish.
Despite its ubercampiness, it does get bonus points for Michael Fucking Ironside, as with all things that have Michael Fucking Ironside.
I liked the part when all the Space Mormons got slaughtered.
I'm erect. Why aren't you erect?
Quote from: Drakken on January 28, 2014, 12:04:21 AM
I'm erect. Why aren't you erect?
Is that a seduction community pick up line?
edit: Better would have been does the seduction community now use that as a pick up line? -_-
Starship Troopers, then Robocop.
The hipster option is The Fourth Man, but I'll go with Robocop - I just enjoy it way too much.
I like Starship Troopers too, but I agree Robocop does what ST wants to do so much better.
Not a big Verhoeven fan, but probably Turks Fruit.
Flesh and Blood should definitely have been in the poll; I'd still have voted for Robocop but I do consider it to be his second best film.
It appears that 1985 (Flesh and Blood) to 1990 (Total Recall) was his best period.
Flesh and Blood is flawed.
Robocop sucked least of the big bag of suck that is that euro-hack's pathetic career.