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Title: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 13, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Austria's new foreign minister is this strapping young 27 year old:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Kurz

QuoteSebastian Kurz (born 27 August 1986) is an Austrian politician and currently the Secretary of State for Integration. He is a member of the Austrian People's Party (ÖVP). On December 12th 2013, he was designated as the new Minister for Integration, Europe and International Affairs of Austria.

Kurz was born in Vienna and brought up in the city district of Meidling, where he is still living. He entered the Bundesgymnasium und Bundesrealgymnasium Erlgasse in 1996 and after his final exam in 2004 Kurz completed the obligatory military service. In 2009 he was elected chairman of the youth branch of the Austrian People's Party. Between 2010 and 2011 he was member of Vienna's city council. In April 2011 Kurz was appointed to the newly created post of State Secretary for Integration (which is part of the Ministry for Internal Affairs. At Austria's general election in 2013 he was elected member of parliament.

So he's already been part of the previous government for 3 years. He will be the youngest foreign minister in the EU.

Where were you when you were 27? :P

I was in Germany, working a job I didn't care for and pondering whether to move to Austria to live my dream of being a writer.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: The Brain on December 13, 2013, 01:05:31 PM
He's a Nazi.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Phillip V on December 13, 2013, 01:07:08 PM
Tell me about his family.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 13, 2013, 01:11:01 PM
No idea, but his birth district of Meidling is generally a blue collar to middle class area in Vienna.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Iormlund on December 13, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Where were you when you were 27? :P

Heh. You say that as if becoming a politician is something commendable.

I'd be more impressed if he worked as an ER nurse.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: The Brain on December 13, 2013, 01:18:28 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 13, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Where were you when you were 27? :P

Heh. You say that as if becoming a politician is something commendable.

I'd be more impressed if he worked as an ER nurse.

:unsure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHwURR7-BKI
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Grey Fox on December 13, 2013, 01:29:33 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Where were you when you were 27? :P

Right here, giving shit to Caliga for being HR.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Razgovory on December 13, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
When I was 27 I also held high position in imaginary countries.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
This is the kind of wackiness you get when political success is determined by climbing the party ladder.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 13, 2013, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 13, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Heh. You say that as if becoming a politician is something commendable.

Well, he does qualify for a minister's pension afterwards. :P So I'd say he's set for life.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: The Brain on December 13, 2013, 01:44:50 PM
Is he one of those genuinely funny Nazis?
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: crazy canuck on December 13, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2013, 01:35:10 PM
This is the kind of wackiness you get when political success is determined by climbing the party ladder.

Agreed.  It is one of the reasons I have been suspicious of proportionate voting schemes.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Ideologue on December 13, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
Shia LeBouf got a new job, and still everyone bitches about him.  The man has the right to live, okay?
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Ed Anger on December 13, 2013, 05:31:44 PM
Young People.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Caliga on December 13, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Is it really important that Austria have an experienced foreign minister?  Does Austria like, do anything important from a foreign relations standpoint? :hmm:
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Duque de Bragança on December 13, 2013, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 13, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Is it really important that Austria have an experienced foreign minister?  Does Austria like, do anything important from a foreign relations standpoint? :hmm:

They might not want somebody as experienced as Kurt Waldheim indeed.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Ideologue on December 13, 2013, 06:01:42 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 13, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Is it really important that Austria have an experienced foreign minister?  Does Austria like, do anything important from a foreign relations standpoint? :hmm:

Keeps Sweden from dominating central Europe.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Liep on December 13, 2013, 06:03:33 PM
We had a 27 year old tax minister. He lasted for about a year.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Phillip V on December 13, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 13, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Heh. You say that as if becoming a politician is something commendable.

Well, he does qualify for a minister's pension afterwards. :P So I'd say he's set for life.

What is yearly compensation and then pension benefits?
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 13, 2013, 06:47:58 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 13, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Is it really important that Austria have an experienced foreign minister?  Does Austria like, do anything important from a foreign relations standpoint? :hmm:

Bars transit to American troops during unpopular invasions of Middle Eastern countries.  :)
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Scipio on December 13, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Well, he's no Metternich.

Come on. We were all thinking it.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 13, 2013, 11:53:16 PM
Quote from: Phillip V on December 13, 2013, 06:26:13 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 01:43:22 PM
Quote from: Iormlund on December 13, 2013, 01:16:28 PM
Heh. You say that as if becoming a politician is something commendable.

Well, he does qualify for a minister's pension afterwards. :P So I'd say he's set for life.

What is yearly compensation and then pension benefits?

Currently €16,000 x 14 as salary. Pension will depend on how long he's in office. But 4 years guarantees him 50% once he's 65 (which, admittedly is a long time away), and can reach 80% after 15 or 20 years, IIRC. He already has three years as state secretary. Let's say he does the full 20 years. At that time he'll be 44 ... enough time to get a cushy job through political friends (not unusual in Austria's tightly knit network of politics and business) for the next 20 years till retirement.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 13, 2013, 11:58:07 PM
Quote from: Caliga on December 13, 2013, 05:40:52 PM
Is it really important that Austria have an experienced foreign minister?  Does Austria like, do anything important from a foreign relations standpoint? :hmm:

Yeah, that's what I thought, too. He will probably get to hobnob with all the international organizations in Vienna, though (OPEC, IAEA, OSCE, other UN agencies etc.).

I will say in his favor that he had a decent stint as State Secretary for Integration. He had pretty realistic views (not too extreme to either left - "all's peachy" or right - "the immigrants destroy Austria") and a very common sense approach to things.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
The way you post vernacular English gives me a boner Syt.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: jimmy olsen on December 14, 2013, 03:34:59 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
The way you post vernacular English gives me a boner Syt.
Deviant!  :mad:
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: 11B4V on December 14, 2013, 03:37:32 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 13, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Austria's new foreign minister is this strapping young 27 year old:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebastian_Kurz

QuoteSebastian Kurz (born 27 August 1986) is an Austrian politician and currently the Secretary of State for Integration. He is a member of the Austrian People's Party (ÖVP). On December 12th 2013, he was designated as the new Minister for Integration, Europe and International Affairs of Austria.

Kurz was born in Vienna and brought up in the city district of Meidling, where he is still living. He entered the Bundesgymnasium und Bundesrealgymnasium Erlgasse in 1996 and after his final exam in 2004 Kurz completed the obligatory military service. In 2009 he was elected chairman of the youth branch of the Austrian People's Party. Between 2010 and 2011 he was member of Vienna's city council. In April 2011 Kurz was appointed to the newly created post of State Secretary for Integration (which is part of the Ministry for Internal Affairs. At Austria's general election in 2013 he was elected member of parliament.

So he's already been part of the previous government for 3 years. He will be the youngest foreign minister in the EU.

Where were you when you were 27? :P

I was in Germany, working a job I didn't care for and pondering whether to move to Austria to live my dream of being a writer.

:o TEH ANTI-CHRIST

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Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Valmy on December 14, 2013, 03:56:19 AM
Quote from: Scipio on December 13, 2013, 06:48:53 PM
Well, he's no Metternich.

Come on. We were all thinking it.

Well he might be.  He is about half the Prince's age coming into office.

How strange that the Habsburg Monarchy did a better job at vetting their foreign ministers.  Granted it was actually an important job back then.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 14, 2013, 04:02:26 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
The way you post vernacular English gives me a boner Syt.

What? :unsure:
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: The Brain on December 14, 2013, 04:16:48 AM
Quote from: Syt on December 14, 2013, 04:02:26 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 02:56:17 AM
The way you post vernacular English gives me a boner Syt.

What? :unsure:

^_^
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 14, 2013, 04:02:26 AM
What? :unsure:

I was trying to express my admiration for your idiomatic English.  Perhaps I did not express that sentiment previously with my habitual laser sharp precision.
Title: Re: Austria to appoint 27 year old foreign minister.
Post by: Syt on December 15, 2013, 12:39:34 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on December 14, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Quote from: Syt on December 14, 2013, 04:02:26 AM
What? :unsure:

I was trying to express my admiration for your idiomatic English.  Perhaps I did not express that sentiment previously with my habitual laser sharp precision.

My question was inquiring about what I'd said to provoke that reaction, not for an explanation of what you said. :P