Something I'd been thinking about lately, and some comments by Shelf made me want to start a thread on it. How much damage did the first World War do to Europe, economically speaking. I know that wealth of the average American was greater then his European brethren even before the war, and it certainly was after. I imagine the gap widened as a result of the war. Not only did the have an enormous cost in money, but the slaughter of generation of men had to have had a devastating effect on the economy as well.
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Apparently it didn't set them back far enough, because they broke even more stuff in World War II.
WWI had lots of casualties, but at least their cities survived.
It put us sexy back.
About 5 ft.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2013, 07:14:47 AM
Apparently it didn't set them back far enough, because they broke even more stuff in World War II.
WWI had lots of casualties, but at least their cities survived.
Well, when when round two came around our boys rode in trucks and theirs rode on horse drawn wagons. So it was clear they were pretty far behind us.
No, that's just European quaintness. Like how they still buy fresh bread daily and shit.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
No, that's just European quaintness. Like how they still buy fresh bread daily and shit.
That fresh daily bread is delicious. Until you have to walk the next day to get more. Going shopping every day...ugh.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 25, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
That fresh daily bread is delicious. Until you have to walk the next day to get more. Going shopping every day...ugh.
Just ride your bike there Pierre.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 25, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
That fresh daily bread is delicious. Until you have to walk the next day to get more. Going shopping every day...ugh.
Just ride your bike there Pierre.
I don't do bikes. I'm not 12 anymore.
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Rule the world.
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Thank our Creator for the gift of citizenship in the greatest country in the world.
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 25, 2013, 04:14:46 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 25, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
That fresh daily bread is delicious. Until you have to walk the next day to get more. Going shopping every day...ugh.
Just ride your bike there Pierre.
I don't do bikes. I'm not 12 anymore.
Get a Vespa.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2013, 04:23:57 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Thank our Creator for the gift of citizenship in the greatest country in the world.
I don't think one can get citizenship in the Republic of Texas anymore :hmm:
Quote from: mongers on November 25, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Whinge.
Clearly that would be a British thing. We don't speak that way. :P
Quote from: mongers on November 25, 2013, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Whinge.
Americans never whinge. We do not even whine about whinging.
Shit, we don't even know how to pronounce whinge.
Quote from: The Brain on November 25, 2013, 04:19:04 PM
Is there anything Americans do every day?
Pray we still have jobs tomorrow.
:yeahright:
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
No, that's just European quaintness. Like how they still buy fresh bread daily and shit.
I think it also has something to do with availability and security of petroleum supplies. Most European countries didn't have oil, and so wasting it on huge numbers of trucks was something they couldn't afford to do.
Quote from: Valmy on November 25, 2013, 04:29:39 PM
I don't think one can get citizenship in the Republic of Texas anymore :hmm:
Your foreign Senator seems to think otherwise.
QuoteSen. Ted Cruz cracked on Congress and the whole D.C. political culture with a recent Twitter message pointing to the brewing battle: Inside the Beltway vs. Beyond the Beltway.
His tweet: "It's great to be back home — I've spent the past month in Washington, D.C., and it is great to be back in America!"
Nice.
I wouldn't take that as an attack on the poisonous political culture created by the Democrats in Washington, but rather his discomfort at being in a city with so many blacks. He's Canadian, and we aren't built for that sort of thing.
But Canadians are blacks. :huh:
Nice call back :lol:
WWI? :unsure:
Did you mean the
http://www.history.co.uk/node/220191
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Could someone hit Tim? Please. He deserves it.
Wait, that's a real thing? Good God!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on November 25, 2013, 04:13:22 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on November 25, 2013, 04:01:39 PM
That fresh daily bread is delicious. Until you have to walk the next day to get more. Going shopping every day...ugh.
Just ride your bike there Pierre.
Or even worse, JUST WALK.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2013, 05:15:31 AM
Could someone hit Tim? Please. He deserves it.
He has too many assbuddies and fanbois here. Like one of Jerry's Kids, you can't just euthanize him. Too many people would notice.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2013, 05:44:22 AM
Something I'd been thinking about lately, and some comments by Shelf made me want to start a thread on it. How much damage did the first World War do to Europe, economically speaking. I know that wealth of the average American was greater then his European brethren even before the war, and it certainly was after. I imagine the gap widened as a result of the war. Not only did the have an enormous cost in money, but the slaughter of generation of men had to have had a devastating effect on the economy as well.
I
War is the engine of civilization and technological development.
Or is it
conflict?
Quote from: Siege on November 26, 2013, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2013, 05:44:22 AM
Something I'd been thinking about lately, and some comments by Shelf made me want to start a thread on it. How much damage did the first World War do to Europe, economically speaking. I know that wealth of the average American was greater then his European brethren even before the war, and it certainly was after. I imagine the gap widened as a result of the war. Not only did the have an enormous cost in money, but the slaughter of generation of men had to have had a devastating effect on the economy as well.
I
War is the engine of civilization and technological development.
Or is it conflict?
It's disorder in general. Doesn't have to be war.
Quote from: Neil on November 25, 2013, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
No, that's just European quaintness. Like how they still buy fresh bread daily and shit.
I think it also has something to do with availability and security of petroleum supplies. Most European countries didn't have oil, and so wasting it on huge numbers of trucks was something they couldn't afford to do.
The mid 1930s had a oil glut on the world market. Nothing stopping those countries from getting oil except in most cases, internal politics. Germany, in particular, was so strangling its trade economy that they didn't have enough foreign currency to pay for the raw materials they needed.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2013, 05:20:18 AM
Wait, that's a real thing? Good God!
Come on, it looks way more interesting than their ancient alien psuedohistorical crap. They're actually have fun with it and making a retro scifi mockumentary.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 26, 2013, 06:27:52 PM
Quote from: Neil on November 25, 2013, 08:36:35 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on November 25, 2013, 01:28:32 PM
No, that's just European quaintness. Like how they still buy fresh bread daily and shit.
I think it also has something to do with availability and security of petroleum supplies. Most European countries didn't have oil, and so wasting it on huge numbers of trucks was something they couldn't afford to do.
The mid 1930s had a oil glut on the world market. Nothing stopping those countries from getting oil except in most cases, internal politics. Germany, in particular, was so strangling its trade economy that they didn't have enough foreign currency to pay for the raw materials they needed.
Do you think it would be wise for a country to build their military around a resource to which access could be easily severed at any time? How did that work out for Japan, whose dependence on US oil exports put it in a position where it had no choice but to start a war it couldn't win?
Embargos, after all, would prevent countries from getting oil.
They did build their militaries around it, so I guess they're stupid. Using horse wagons wasn't a strategic decision. They did it because they had to and because the Panzers, Luftwaffe and navies needed the fuel.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 26, 2013, 08:53:45 PM
They did build their militaries around it, so I guess they're stupid. Using horse wagons wasn't a strategic decision. They did it because they had to and because the Panzers, Luftwaffe and navies needed the fuel.
They were modern armies. They would have been stupid had they been wasting precious fuel on trucks to cart around the infantry.
Quote from: MadImmortalMan on November 26, 2013, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: Siege on November 26, 2013, 06:11:59 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on November 25, 2013, 05:44:22 AM
Something I'd been thinking about lately, and some comments by Shelf made me want to start a thread on it. How much damage did the first World War do to Europe, economically speaking. I know that wealth of the average American was greater then his European brethren even before the war, and it certainly was after. I imagine the gap widened as a result of the war. Not only did the have an enormous cost in money, but the slaughter of generation of men had to have had a devastating effect on the economy as well.
I
War is the engine of civilization and technological development.
Or is it conflict?
It's disorder in general. Doesn't have to be war.
I'm not sure it's either. War and disorder are rather costly. Competition can drive economic and technological progress but it need not be disorderly or chaotic.
Quote from: Razgovory on November 26, 2013, 10:46:05 PM
I'm not sure it's either. War and disorder are rather costly. Competition can drive economic and technological progress but it need not be disorderly or chaotic.
Perhaps I should have said "a less-structured environment" rather than simply "disorder".