11 year old Iman was on summer vacation in Somalia (as usual, it seems their urgent need to run from their country expires once they get permanent resident status and can then proceed to go on vacations to the country where they feared torture, murder and/or mutilation) and her mother expediently decided it was time to snip snip her naughty bits.
In 2006, her mother was sentenced to 3 years in prison and was ordered to pay the sum of 450 000 SEK in damages to her daughter (~$50 000).
Of course, had this story ended here it would've been a non-story. Those savages mutilate their children for fun and profit and there doesn't seem to be any stopping it.
No, the story goes on.
The mother, she cannot pay 450 000 SEK given that she is part of the 90% of Somalis who are on permanent welfare and so the Crime Victims Fund steps in and shells out the money.
1. Flee persecution in home country
2. Attain residency in the land of plenty aka Sweden aka the land of the retardedly naive
3. Go on vacation in home country, snippety snip
4. Profit!
It's not funny anymore.
Come on, Norgy; tell me how this makes sense. I know you probably have several arguments why this is right and proper and why we should make sure all somali girls who've been mutilated need to be compensated. You can use the Norwegian Pension Fund.
I bet you have indexed files on this sort of thing. :lol:
Quote from: Malthus on June 01, 2009, 10:06:51 AM
I bet you have indexed files on this sort of thing. :lol:
I have considered it.
The bits and pieces I relay here won't convince anyone who can't (or won't) see the bigger picture.
The sheer volume that is out there rightly should.
But I'm sure you think giving people financial incentives to mutilate their children is a great idea.
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 01, 2009, 10:06:51 AM
I bet you have indexed files on this sort of thing. :lol:
I have considered it.
The bits and pieces I relay here won't convince anyone who can't (or won't) see the bigger picture.
The sheer volume that is out there rightly should.
But I'm sure you think giving people financial incentives to mutilate their children is a great idea.
I do.
I like genital mutilation of children so much, I did it myself. :D
There has to be backlash coming with policies as stupid as this. I wonder what form will it take in the West.
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
Crime Victims Fund
The Crime Victims Fund steps in to fund a crime perpetrator? What a strange fund.
That country is a dump.
Quote from: Valmy on June 01, 2009, 11:10:17 AM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
Crime Victims Fund
The Crime Victims Fund steps in to fund a crime perpetrator? What a strange fund.
No, it steps in to pay compensation to victims in cases where the perpetrator cannot pay. In norwegian criminal law (as well as swedish) the perpetrator can be found liable to pay compensation, in most cases this is paid through insurance in traffic accidents where the accident was less than accidental (drunk driving etc.). The Fund is there to guarantee that the victim is compensated, not to pay the perpetrators costs.
In this case I presume the kid was taken from the family and thus the mother did not just get control over the money due to her being the kids guardian. Or at least I really really hope.
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
In this case I presume the kid was taken from the family and thus the mother did not just get control over the money due to her being the kids guardian. Or at least I really really hope.
Ah ok I hope you are right.
and that great big pendulum in the sky keeps swinging to the right
Quote from: Viking on June 01, 2009, 11:17:00 AM
Quote from: Valmy on June 01, 2009, 11:10:17 AM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
Crime Victims Fund
The Crime Victims Fund steps in to fund a crime perpetrator? What a strange fund.
No, it steps in to pay compensation to victims in cases where the perpetrator cannot pay. In norwegian criminal law (as well as swedish) the perpetrator can be found liable to pay compensation, in most cases this is paid through insurance in traffic accidents where the accident was less than accidental (drunk driving etc.). The Fund is there to guarantee that the victim is compensated, not to pay the perpetrators costs.
In this case I presume the kid was taken from the family and thus the mother did not just get control over the money due to her being the kids guardian. Or at least I really really hope.
She's 19 now, so technically it's her money. Whether her Clan demands part of it or not and whether it ends up paying for a couple of K's of semtex I fear we'll never know.
Still, I have zero doubt that we'll be seeing more cases like this now.
They told me I was incorrect in predicting a torrent of asylum seekers citing fear of genital mutilation once they gave that one woman asylum for that cause, and lo and behold, 6 months later there is a sudden and inexplicable massive rise in the number of Kenyan asylum seekers citing just that reason. Who could have ever guessed? :rolleyes:
They really should revoke assylum seekers residency if they go home on holiday. Its just logical.
Quote from: Tyr on June 01, 2009, 01:13:42 PM
They really should revoke assylum seekers residency if they go home on holiday. Its just logical.
Racist. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 01, 2009, 10:06:51 AM
I bet you have indexed files on this sort of thing. :lol:
I have considered it.
The bits and pieces I relay here won't convince anyone who can't (or won't) see the bigger picture.
The sheer volume that is out there rightly should.
But I'm sure you think giving people financial incentives to mutilate their children is a great idea.
Wait, you have considered keeping the mutilated bits and pieces in question in an indexed file? And you say that with the volume of the collection you should? :unsure:
Quote from: lustindarkness on June 01, 2009, 01:19:15 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 10:09:16 AM
Quote from: Malthus on June 01, 2009, 10:06:51 AM
I bet you have indexed files on this sort of thing. :lol:
I have considered it.
The bits and pieces I relay here won't convince anyone who can't (or won't) see the bigger picture.
The sheer volume that is out there rightly should.
But I'm sure you think giving people financial incentives to mutilate their children is a great idea.
Wait, you have considered keeping the mutilated bits and pieces in question in an indexed file? And you say that with the volume of the collection you should? :unsure:
Sure. In the beginning I was able to recognize pieces of my collection by sight, touch and taste.
Nowadays, I need a catalogue to remember where each item was collected.
It's really getting to the point where I need that Garage of yours, aswell.
Do you have a basement, btw?
Edit: Nevermind. I was thinking about Valmy. But really, DO you have a basement? When is the next american languish meet at your place anyway?
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 01, 2009, 01:13:42 PM
They really should revoke assylum seekers residency if they go home on holiday. Its just logical.
Racist. :rolleyes:
Thats their reasoning for not?
Surely this issue will have been raised before.
No garage or basement. :(
Quote from: Tyr on June 01, 2009, 01:24:08 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:16:48 PM
Quote from: Tyr on June 01, 2009, 01:13:42 PM
They really should revoke assylum seekers residency if they go home on holiday. Its just logical.
Racist. :rolleyes:
Thats their reasoning for not?
Surely this issue will have been raised before.
:lol:
You do not, of course, realize the level the swedish discourse on this subject is at.
The Liberal Party scored strongly among certain segments of the population on the last election by their "tough on immigrants" stance which was basically a proposal that learning swedish should be a requirement for attaining permanent residency.
It was a gimmick of course, since they are one of the parties that wants open borders, and the entire stunt failed when they were accused of "pandering to racists" and likened to "that nazi party" the Swedish Democratic Party.
This stuff doesn't cause any meaningful debate since
1. Any public debate that could possibly imply there is anything negative with mass-immigration and attached nonsensical policy is discouraged in established media outlets.
2. Being branded racist in Sweden anno 2009 is about as helpful as being branded a witch in the 13th century, and a lot easier.
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
2. Being branded racist in Sweden anno 2009 is about as helpful as being branded a witch in the 13th century, and a lot easier.
I don't understand. Is it helpful or not?
Quote from: Siege on June 01, 2009, 01:53:31 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
2. Being branded racist in Sweden anno 2009 is about as helpful as being branded a witch in the 13th century, and a lot easier.
I don't understand. Is it helpful or not?
Facetious much? :huh:
While hyperbole, the mechanism is much the same. People have been fired from their jobs over party membership, and I'm not talking about nazi party membership. The nazis generally despise SD since they preach assimilation and reduced immigration from third world countries rather than throwing them out / gassing them.
Got any solutions?
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
They told me I was incorrect in predicting a torrent of asylum seekers citing fear of genital mutilation once they gave that one woman asylum for that cause, and lo and behold, 6 months later there is a sudden and inexplicable massive rise in the number of Kenyan asylum seekers citing just that reason. Who could have ever guessed? :rolleyes:
I'd sure as hell want to get out of the country if I was under threat of genital mutilation, wouldn't you?
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
Got any solutions?
Several. :zipped:
But they mostly deal with treating the disease, and not individual symptoms.
It is not practical to treat culture enrichers any different than we treat other citizens so the only way to turn the ship around is by a full stop on handing out PUT.
We will have to live with most of the filth we've already received, I'm afraid. But we certainly don't need to import more.
I'm curious, though, Sal. Do you think that this and the myriad of similar atrocities is acceptable? Are you happy to be paying for the upkeep of a by now pretty large group of people of which 9 out of 10 don't work?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2009, 02:12:21 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 01:09:40 PM
They told me I was incorrect in predicting a torrent of asylum seekers citing fear of genital mutilation once they gave that one woman asylum for that cause, and lo and behold, 6 months later there is a sudden and inexplicable massive rise in the number of Kenyan asylum seekers citing just that reason. Who could have ever guessed? :rolleyes:
I'd sure as hell want to get out of the country if I was under threat of genital mutilation, wouldn't you?
The woman in question came from a region of the country that didn't practice genital mutilation. It was simply an excuse to gain entry.
Regardless, why should Norwegian taxpayers be saddled with paying her welfare checks for the rest of her life simply because her people are barbarians?
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 02:08:05 PM
Got any solutions?
Several. :zipped:
But they mostly deal with treating the disease, and not individual symptoms.
It is not practical to treat culture enrichers any different than we treat other citizens so the only way to turn the ship around is by a full stop on handing out PUT.
We will have to live with most of the filth we've already received, I'm afraid. But we certainly don't need to import more.
I'm curious, though, Sal. Do you think that this and the myriad of similar atrocities is acceptable? Are you happy to be paying for the upkeep of a by now pretty large group of people of which 9 out of 10 don't work?
An interesting choice of vocabulary that you use; "filth", "disease" & "symptoms".
I have no problem paying for the upkeep for the Somali individuals out of work.
While on the subject of Somali's it's interesting that in the U.S a high percentage
of the Somali population is working. So is there a difference between the Somalis that
go to the U.S and the Somalis that come to Sweden? Are the Somilis in the U.S enhanced Supersomalis able to jump high buildings in one leap?
Then there is the paradox that you in some manner share the same views
to those that you consider "barbarians". You condemn their views by which
individuals are mashed together inte eg. tribes, clans or families and that
they don't respect an individuals rights etc.
But aren't you like those you say you oppose? You are fusing together a
great many individuals into one homogeneous group? Using words like "volume" and "myriad?
You don't mind paying upkeep for people that choose to exploit the system and not even look for work at all?
Are you gay?
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 02:44:46 PM
While on the subject of Somali's it's interesting that in the U.S a high percentage
of the Somali population is working.
If they don't work they'll be on the street.
Quote from: DisturbedPervert on June 01, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 02:44:46 PM
While on the subject of Somali's it's interesting that in the U.S a high percentage
of the Somali population is working.
If they don't work they'll be on the street.
But remember there is also a carrot in this not only a stick.
If we hadn't made Sweden into a Socialist hellhole the problems associated with mass immigration would have been greatly reduced. If we want a Sweden that works okayish then we must eliminate Socialism as a political force. The enemy within is the one we must confront and destroy with fire and sword (mostly fire).
Socialists don't agree with this but they are wrong, as always. Why is it that bright, competent people invariably are non-Socialists (rhetorical)?
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 02:51:47 PM
If we hadn't made Sweden into a Socialist hellhole the problems associated with mass immigration would have been greatly reduced. If we want a Sweden that works okayish then we must eliminate Socialism as a political force. The enemy within is the one we must confront and destroy with fire and sword (mostly fire).
Socialists don't agree with this but they are wrong, as always. Why is it that bright, competent people invariably are non-Socialists (rhetorical)?
:lmfao:
If the Swedish system had been well defined (in this context), ie if Swedes had wanted something other than what they did and do, then the system would have been able to handle vast hordes of immigrants.
Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. This is key to understanding the issue.
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
If the Swedish system had been well defined (in this context), ie if Swedes had wanted something other than what they did and do, then the system would have been able to handle vast hordes of immigrants.
Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. This is key to understanding the issue.
So you know the will of the people? Will this knowledge lead to a better democracy? Maybe a true democracy?
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
If the Swedish system had been well defined (in this context), ie if Swedes had wanted something other than what they did and do, then the system would have been able to handle vast hordes of immigrants.
Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. This is key to understanding the issue.
So you know the will of the people? Will this knowledge lead to a better democracy? Maybe a true democracy?
I don't follow. What are you talking about?
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
I know what the people want.
More cowbell.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
Is he claiming that though? I thought he was claiming to know what was good for them.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
If you want to say something just come out and say it.
I'm not here to convince you, I am here to inform you. Just like most large corporations in Sweden do not want to make a lot of money so Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. If you're not willing to do what it takes to achieve something then you do not want to achieve it. Take me for instance. I would love to be able to speak Japanese, but I do not want to learn Japanese.
How do I know these things? You have to remember that I am no ordinary man. You don't meet many men like me in a lifetime. I see more clearly than ordinary men. This means that sometimes what I say may seem strange to you. I can only point to what I see from my mountain top. If you're still struggling to reach base camp then I can still describe it to you but you won't see. See?
Quote from: jimmy olsen on June 01, 2009, 03:26:42 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
Is he claiming that though? I thought he was claiming to know what was good for them.
Good? I don't even know what that means.
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
If you want to say something just come out and say it.
I'm not here to convince you, I am here to inform you. Just like most large corporations in Sweden do not want to make a lot of money so Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. If you're not willing to do what it takes to achieve something then you do not want to achieve it. Take me for instance. I would love to be able to speak Japanese, but I do not want to learn Japanese.
How do I know these things? You have to remember that I am no ordinary man. You don't meet many men like me in a lifetime. I see more clearly than ordinary men. This means that sometimes what I say may seem strange to you. I can only point to what I see from my mountain top. If you're still struggling to reach base camp then I can still describe it to you but you won't see. See?
I already said it. I'm wary of men that say that they know what the people want. Always will be.
And if I'm supposed to take that last paragraph seriously then the yes. I have met men that speake like you before. Most of the used to sit in a Central Committee or claimed that they were living the destiny Allah had chosen for them.
So, Slargos, should I convert to Islam for Migrationverket to consider my candidacy favorably?
Perhaps I should totally deny I have any knowledge of the Swedish language to gain some points, or take a picture of myself with a blackened face and a Turban around the head. <_<
Quote from: Drakken on June 01, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
So, Slargos, should I convert to Islam for Migrationverket to consider my candidacy favorably?
Perhaps I should totally deny I have any knowledge of the Swedish knowledge. <_<
You need to successfully argue that you are being persecuted in your country.
Flushing your passport down the toilet only works for brown people.
Besides, you are the kind of immigrant we don't want here, being from a first world country.
Sorry, but no dice.
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 01, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
So, Slargos, should I convert to Islam for Migrationverket to consider my candidacy favorably?
Perhaps I should totally deny I have any knowledge of the Swedish knowledge. <_<
You need to successfully argue that you are being persecuted in your country.
Flushing your passport down the toilet only works for brown people.
Besides, you are the kind of immigrant we don't want here, being from a first world country.
Sorry, but no dice.
How ironic, don't you think? A country which doesn't want immigrants descending from their own emigrants to another first-world country. :lol:
We aren't allowed to have public services in Swedish here, so I am persecuted. Finns have more luck than me. :cry:
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:13:38 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:09:10 PM
If the Swedish system had been well defined (in this context), ie if Swedes had wanted something other than what they did and do, then the system would have been able to handle vast hordes of immigrants.
Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. This is key to understanding the issue.
So you know the will of the people? Will this knowledge lead to a better democracy? Maybe a true democracy?
I think it is safe to say that the swedish people by and large want a social-democratic welfare state given the history of voting in that country.
It is also safe to say that a social-democratic welfare state like Sweden cannot function with a mass-immigration scheme like we're seeing right now.
I appreciate your honesty, btw. I assume it will be alright if I crash at your place for a few months and I expect to see the fridge well stocked with my favourite foodstuffs.
Or are you only generous with other people's resources?
Quote from: Drakken on June 01, 2009, 03:48:34 PM
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: Drakken on June 01, 2009, 03:43:41 PM
So, Slargos, should I convert to Islam for Migrationverket to consider my candidacy favorably?
Perhaps I should totally deny I have any knowledge of the Swedish knowledge. <_<
You need to successfully argue that you are being persecuted in your country.
Flushing your passport down the toilet only works for brown people.
Besides, you are the kind of immigrant we don't want here, being from a first world country.
Sorry, but no dice.
How ironic, don't you think? A country which doesn't want immigrants descending from their own emigrants to another first-world country. :lol:
We aren't allowed to have public services in Swedish here, so I am persecuted. Finns have more luck than me. :cry:
I wouldn't say ironic. I would say disgusting, pathetic and sad.
But the swedish people has by and large spoken on the subject, and they have been given several opportunities to speak up against it again which they have refused.
All I can say is good luck and good riddance.
Quote from: Slargos on June 01, 2009, 03:50:43 PM
I think it is safe to say that the swedish people by and large want a social-democratic welfare state given the history of voting in that country.
It is also safe to say that a social-democratic welfare state like Sweden cannot function with a mass-immigration scheme like we're seeing right now.
I appreciate your honesty, btw. I assume it will be alright if I crash at your place for a few months and I expect to see the fridge well stocked with my favourite foodstuffs.
Or are you only generous with other people's resources?
These things are not total opposites it's about utilizing resources and potentials as best as one can.
What do you mean with other people's resources? I'm a taxpayer too.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:30:52 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 03:19:37 PM
I'm always wary of ppl that claim that they know what the people want.
If you want to say something just come out and say it.
I'm not here to convince you, I am here to inform you. Just like most large corporations in Sweden do not want to make a lot of money so Swedes do not want a system that can handle vast hordes of immigrants. If you're not willing to do what it takes to achieve something then you do not want to achieve it. Take me for instance. I would love to be able to speak Japanese, but I do not want to learn Japanese.
How do I know these things? You have to remember that I am no ordinary man. You don't meet many men like me in a lifetime. I see more clearly than ordinary men. This means that sometimes what I say may seem strange to you. I can only point to what I see from my mountain top. If you're still struggling to reach base camp then I can still describe it to you but you won't see. See?
I already said it. I'm wary of men that say that they know what the people want. Always will be.
But why are you wary of them? You do realize of course that the entire democratic system is based on knowing what people want. Why are you afraid of this knowledge?
I don't care that you've met nutjobs. If you're gonna filter what I say through crazy people filter then the conversation is pointless. How about you don't assume that I am crazy and I don't assume that you are?
Remember, unlike some posters in the thread there is no doubt in my mind that we can build a society where there is very little antagonism between immigrants and natives. Should we want to.
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
But why are you wary of them? You do realize of course that the entire democratic system is based on knowing what people want. Why are you afraid of this knowledge?
I don't care that you've met nutjobs. If you're gonna filter what I say through crazy people filter then the conversation is pointless. How about you don't assume that I am crazy and I don't assume that you are?
Remember, unlike some posters in the thread there is no doubt in my mind that we can build a society where there is very little antagonism between immigrants and natives. Should we want to.
You are not understanding my point. My point was that you are claiming that you and only you know the will of the people. And then when you add to that your sermon about being the man on the mountain top how the hell am I supposed to filter it without the crazy people filter?
And the people haven't been presented with any options, neither the "immigrants" or the "natives" no political party in Sweden has been able to present a viable alternative.
I have a deep belief that the system can change and it has changed a lot since I came to Sweden. Mostly for the worse for the "immigrant" population and most importantly for their children that are born here.
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
But why are you wary of them? You do realize of course that the entire democratic system is based on knowing what people want. Why are you afraid of this knowledge?
I don't care that you've met nutjobs. If you're gonna filter what I say through crazy people filter then the conversation is pointless. How about you don't assume that I am crazy and I don't assume that you are?
Remember, unlike some posters in the thread there is no doubt in my mind that we can build a society where there is very little antagonism between immigrants and natives. Should we want to.
You are not understanding my point. My point was that you are claiming that you and only you know the will of the people. And then when you add to that your sermon about being the man on the mountain top how the hell am I supposed to filter it without the crazy people filter?
And the people haven't been presented with any options, neither the "immigrants" or the "natives" no political party in Sweden has been able to present a viable alternative.
I have a deep belief that the system can change and it has changed a lot since I came to Sweden. Mostly for the worse for the "immigrant" population and most importantly for their children that are born here.
OK I give up. You don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you? Talk about a waste of good posts.
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
But why are you wary of them? You do realize of course that the entire democratic system is based on knowing what people want. Why are you afraid of this knowledge?
I don't care that you've met nutjobs. If you're gonna filter what I say through crazy people filter then the conversation is pointless. How about you don't assume that I am crazy and I don't assume that you are?
Remember, unlike some posters in the thread there is no doubt in my mind that we can build a society where there is very little antagonism between immigrants and natives. Should we want to.
You are not understanding my point. My point was that you are claiming that you and only you know the will of the people. And then when you add to that your sermon about being the man on the mountain top how the hell am I supposed to filter it without the crazy people filter?
And the people haven't been presented with any options, neither the "immigrants" or the "natives" no political party in Sweden has been able to present a viable alternative.
I have a deep belief that the system can change and it has changed a lot since I came to Sweden. Mostly for the worse for the "immigrant" population and most importantly for their children that are born here.
OK I give up. You don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you? Talk about a waste of good posts.
You are talking about remaking the Swedish system into a system that is a more capitalist non socialist system?
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 04:17:34 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
Quote from: Saladin on June 01, 2009, 04:10:17 PM
Quote from: The Brain on June 01, 2009, 03:57:58 PM
But why are you wary of them? You do realize of course that the entire democratic system is based on knowing what people want. Why are you afraid of this knowledge?
I don't care that you've met nutjobs. If you're gonna filter what I say through crazy people filter then the conversation is pointless. How about you don't assume that I am crazy and I don't assume that you are?
Remember, unlike some posters in the thread there is no doubt in my mind that we can build a society where there is very little antagonism between immigrants and natives. Should we want to.
You are not understanding my point. My point was that you are claiming that you and only you know the will of the people. And then when you add to that your sermon about being the man on the mountain top how the hell am I supposed to filter it without the crazy people filter?
And the people haven't been presented with any options, neither the "immigrants" or the "natives" no political party in Sweden has been able to present a viable alternative.
I have a deep belief that the system can change and it has changed a lot since I came to Sweden. Mostly for the worse for the "immigrant" population and most importantly for their children that are born here.
OK I give up. You don't have a clue what I'm talking about do you? Talk about a waste of good posts.
You are talking about remaking the Swedish system into a system that is a more capitalist non socialist system?
That's about 5% of what I have been talking about yes.
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you probably don't see yourself as significantly more intelligent than people who are normally considered intelligent. When you encounter someone who claims to be extremely bright do you ever pause and consider the fact that maybe he's right?
The arrogance of the mediocre is typically astronomical compared to the arrogance of the wise.
Not enough kittens in this thread.
What the fuck?
Why are two threads with the same fucking name?
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 01, 2009, 04:45:15 PM
Not enough kittens in this thread.
Somalians ate them.
Or maybe it was Slargos. :D
Quote from: Siege on June 01, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
What the fuck?
Why are two threads with the same fucking name?
Clearly the threads need to be merged.
Quote from: Siege on June 01, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
What the fuck?
Why are two threads with the same fucking name?
No.
One of the names are both the same.
Quote from: Siege on June 01, 2009, 05:07:59 PM
What the fuck?
Why are two threads with the same fucking name?
Maybe you need to l2r
I would support Slargos in his myopic campaign to rid the world of humans he doesn't think are white enough - but only if he moves to Northern Idaho first.
(bumped both for Siegy)
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Damn you, Garbon
This thread needs more Maru.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_AbfPXTKms
Quote from: Ed Anger on June 01, 2009, 07:42:26 PM
This thread needs more Maru.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_AbfPXTKms
Maru and the Big Box
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdhLQCYQ-nQ