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NFL Point Spreads For Week 5 - Week Five NFL Football Point Spread - NFL Spreads 10/3 - 10/7, 2013
Date & Time Favorite Spread Underdog
10/3 8:25 ET At Cleveland -3.5 Buffalo
10/6 1:00 ET Kansas City -3 At Tennessee
10/6 1:00 ET At Miami -3 Baltimore
10/6 1:00 ET At St. Louis -11.5 Jacksonville
10/6 1:00 ET At Cincinnati -1 New England
10/6 1:00 ET Seattle -3 At Indianapolis
10/6 1:00 ET At Green Bay -7 Detroit
10/6 1:00 ET New Orleans -1 At Chicago
10/6 1:00 ET At NY Giants -2 Philadelphia
10/6 4:05 ET Carolina -2 At Arizona
10/6 11:35 ET San Diego -4.5 At Oakland
10/6 4:25 ET Denver -7.5 At Dallas
10/6 8:30 ET At San Francisco -6.5 Houston
Monday Night Football Point Spread
10/7 8:40 ET At Atlanta -10 NY JetsQuote
I love how Apple's autocorrect wants to spell it NY Jests.
Playoff baseball is doing it for me. Kinda surprised at the Bengals-Patriots spread, though.
I'm about done with pro football myself. The constant fantasy shit and blithering over analysis just about sets my teeth on edge.
Right, because baseball has none of that.
I don't watch baseball on TV.
And they call me a Luddite.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 03, 2013, 09:37:39 PM
And they call me a Luddite.
:lol:
I only watch minor league ball in person.
I hate the fantasy blather too.
"Oh yeah, you should definitely start Peyton Manning this week"
Thanks, Tips.
Where are your lines from; I was seeing Chicago -1 over New Orleans, but you have New Orleans +1 over Chicago?
Yeah Ulmont, I don't know what CBS Sports was thinking on that one.
Meanwhile...wow.
QuoteThe Ravens have cut veteran wide receiver Brandon Stokley and have re-signed veteran tight end Billy Bajema.
Stokley's release is a good indication that Jacoby Jones (knee), Marlon Brown (hamstring) and Deonte Thompson (concussion) are nearing a return.
The veteran wide receiver, a member of the Ravens' Super Bowl XXXV championship team, had been dealing with a groin injury and didn't play in the Ravens' 23-20 loss to the Buffalo Bills last Sunday.
Stokley didn't practice Friday and was listed as questionable on the injury report.
As a vested veteran, Stokley's $940,000 contract is guaranteed and counts against the Ravens' salary cap.
Bajema is known for his blocking. He was cut Thursday when the Ravens made their trade official for offensive tackle Eugene Monroe.
Bajema is playing under a 1-year contract tthat counts $155,000 against the salary cap under the minimum salary benefit.
NFL salaries, outside of QBs, really suck.
You've got to be kidding. 940K for a #5 WR is bad money?
I think what GF is trying to say is, since the most recent CBA, you're seeing a wider disparity of salaries between certain positions. Wonder where they got that idea from.
I think that Stokley was a #3 receiver. And a million dollars a year for a guy in Stokley's situation is pretty good for the player.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
You've got to be kidding. 940K for a #5 WR is bad money?
Travis Moen, a 4th Liner in the NHL, makes 1.85 million a year.
Jerome Boger :yucky:
Really don't like him.
I'm not sure why anyone would think $940,000 (for three games and only nine catches it turns out) guaranteed sucks for a ~15 year player.
Oh look Danny Amendola is back. I guess he's scheduled to play for another couple of quarters before getting injured again?
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 06, 2013, 07:54:10 AM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 05, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
You've got to be kidding. 940K for a #5 WR is bad money?
Travis Moen, a 4th Liner in the NHL, makes 1.85 million a year.
Yeah, but he's still a first-stringer. In the NHL, your fourth line still plays significant minutes. In the NFL, your third-stringers are only playing special teams or if the starters get hurt. The two aren't really the same.
So how about those Ravens? :P
Line can't block.
Fucking defense. <_<
Well, there was a pretty weak PI penalty there to set them up at the 20. But Miami's been tackling pretty well. That stick on Deonte Thompson was a thing of beauty.
Its about time Ray Rice. :mad:
Is Suggs a monster or did the Miami line catch retard-itis from McKinnie?
Bears showing their 3-0 start was a fluke. Time for fair weather fan Yi to slip quietly off the bandwagon.
Well, Seahawks had to lose sometime. :(
It's interesting how all the talking heads keep trying to say that the NFC is so much better than the AFC, but when they play head to head the AFC almost always wins.
Wow even with Brady playing like shit, looks like I'll beat MBM in LFFL
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Wow even with Brady playing like shit, looks like I'll beat MBM in LFFL
Well, you're beating Yahoo.
Brady's touchdown streak is snapped now. Good job, Bengals.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 06, 2013, 04:21:21 PM
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2013, 03:33:33 PM
Wow even with Brady playing like shit, looks like I'll beat MBM in LFFL
Well, you're beating Yahoo.
not my fault you don't pay attention to your team.
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
Brady's touchdown streak is snapped now. Good job, Bengals.
:punk: A little frustrating that the Bungles couldn't put the game away earlier, and Brady got his obligatory roughing call late in the game. But it was nice when the rain started pouring on the Patriots last possession.
I'll take the win.
Awesome naked bootleg by Manning. Dallas was fooled, Cameraman was fooled, I was fooled.
You know, I really hate the pale pink 'flag' display that CBS is using. You don't really see it.
Fuck breast cancer awareness month.
That pink shit gets on my nerves too.
Romo's gotta Romo :bleeding:
Another wonderful romoception y'all.
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 06, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
That pink shit gets on my nerves too.
And the first down line is hard to see.
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2013, 04:46:24 PM
Brady's touchdown streak is snapped now. Good job, Bengals.
Who Dat!
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 06, 2013, 06:20:08 PM
That pink shit gets on my nerves too.
Yeah. for an entire month.
NFL gamepass is now coming up in Korean for me and I can't seem to change it back. <_<
:lol:
My LFFL season is going down the drain fast.
@Tim, stop using IE.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 06, 2013, 07:27:00 PM
My LFFL season is going down the drain fast.
@Tim, stop using IE.
I'm using firefox
Quote from: katmai on October 06, 2013, 04:50:41 PM
not my fault you don't pay attention to your team.
It's not my team. I didn't pick it. It's Yahoo's team. :)
Then don't sign up for league :rolleyes:
But then Yahoo wouldn't have a team.
Wait is that right? That team is 3-1? That's awesome
Goddamn fantasy fags. I'm gonna start describing my 18th level Paladin soon.
:lol: That's probably cooler than fantasy football.
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 06, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Goddamn fantasy fags. I'm gonna start describing my 18th level Paladin soon.
That would still be the most information you ever shared with us by a mile.
Man. Schaub is just not having a good night.
Ugh, that Pats-Bengals game was ugly. :yuk:
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2013, 09:43:31 PM
Man. Schaub is just not having a good night.
He's been not so good the whole year. Whatever his problem is, they need to sit him down until he gets it fixed. He's thrown like 10 picks this year, 4 of which have gone for 6 the other way. SF has dropped at least two more INTs tonight too.
Yates is in now. Same results.
Yates threw a pick6 too? I turned it off and am watching some DVRd shows right now.
Kodiak yanked Schaub? That's gotta hurt.
Overheard Chris Collins talking about the only fear he had when he was playing, which was the fear of embarrassing himself, in the context of Schaub's current run.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 06, 2013, 10:00:07 PM
Yates threw a pick6 too? I turned it off and am watching some DVRd shows right now.
No, but they had another turnover.
Who would you rather have as your blocking assignment: Sooh or Watt?
Quote from: citizen k on October 06, 2013, 10:03:28 PM
No, but they had another turnover.
Someone other than the QB turned it over? IMPROVEMENT
Quote from: Admiral Yi on October 06, 2013, 10:06:33 PM
Who would you rather have as your blocking assignment: Sooh or Watt?
I'd go with Watt. Suh is more likely to do something crazy and actively try to permanently cripple you.
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2013, 03:31:23 PM
It's interesting how all the talking heads keep trying to say that the NFC is so much better than the AFC, but when they play head to head the AFC almost always wins.
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I said almost. This one win by San Francisco doesn't change the fact that the AFC has been killing it all year,
Quote from: Neil on October 06, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
I said almost. This one win by San Francisco doesn't change the fact that the Broncos have been killing it all year,
Ftfy
I'm not sold on the chiefs or Indy. And the AFC East never counts.
In Week 1: Jets over Bucs, Bears over Bengals. 1-1
in Week 2: Chargers over Eagles, Chiefs over Cowboys, Bills over Panthers, Broncos over Giants. 4-0
In Week 3: Chiefs over Eagles, Patriots over Bucs, Bengals over Packers, Browns over Vikings, Dolphins over Falcons, Colts over 49ers, Seahawks over Jags, Bears over Steelers. 6-2
In Week 4: Vikings over Steelers, Chiefs over Giants, Seahawks over Texans, Redskins over Raiders, Broncos over Eagles, Chargers over Cowboys, Patriots over Falcons, Saints over Dolphins. 4-4
In Week 5: Colts over Seahawks, Rams over Jaguars, Broncos over Cowboys, 49ers over Texans 2-2.
17-9 isn't quite as bad as I thought, but it's pretty clear that the AFC is better top to bottom. Except for Jacksonville. They're just the worst.
Though the seahawks lost today, I think they're probably the best team in the NFC, and the Broncos are obviously the best team in the AFC.
There are a lot of teams you mention, but I dont think most of them matter in all reality. The only teams that really matter right now if you can project to the playoffs, in my opinion, are Broncos, Seahawks, Saints. KC, Indy, and Pats and Niners are wild cards in my opinion, heck maybe even the bungles on that list.
Jets/bucs, bears? Chargers/eagles, Bills/panthers? I can't read any more of that list.
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 07, 2013, 12:28:00 AM
Though the seahawks lost today, I think they're probably the best team in the NFC, and the Broncos are obviously the best team in the AFC.
There are a lot of teams you mention, but I dont think most of them matter in all reality. The only teams that really matter right now if you can project to the playoffs, in my opinion, are Broncos, Seahawks, Saints. KC, Indy, and Pats and Niners are wild cards in my opinion, heck maybe even the bungles on that list.
Jets/bucs, bears? Chargers/eagles, Bills/panthers? I can't read any more of that list.
That's just neat. Not sure what it has to do with Neil's original point. So far when the AFC play the NFC the AFC has won more.
Some dumbass trying to project playoff team in the first week of October doesn't really change that.
Im sorry the pats suck and you're being a whiny bitch, don't take it out on me.
And since you're feeling a little slow today, his point was that he thinks there are more quality teams in the AFC than the NFC, I disagree.
:console:
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 07, 2013, 12:45:02 AM
Im sorry the pats suck and you're being a whiny bitch, don't take it out on me.
:huh:
Quote from: Alcibiades on October 07, 2013, 12:46:58 AM
And since you're feeling a little slow today, his point was that he thinks there are more quality teams in the AFC than the NFC, I disagree.
:console:
OK. We will take you opinion over the win-loss record so far. :rolleyes:
Because the jets beating the bucs or the rams beating the jags are real good indicators of 'quality' alright. :rolleyes:
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I'm not 100% sold on the awesomeness of the Seahawks. Sure, they're great at home, but they have to play 8 games on the road.
Quote from: Neil on October 07, 2013, 08:01:07 AM
I'm not 100% sold on the awesomeness of the Seahawks. Sure, they're great at home, but they have to play 8 games on the road.
And they only get one against the Texans.
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 06, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 06, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Goddamn fantasy fags. I'm gonna start describing my 18th level Paladin soon.
That would still be the most information you ever shared with us by a mile.
Get bent.
Ed obviously had to go apple picking on the one Sunday the Bungles beat the Patriots.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2013, 08:30:26 AM
Ed obviously had to go apple picking on the one Sunday the Bungles beat the Patriots.
Actually, I watched Seattle-Indy. Much more entertaining than listening to Dierdorf.
A SUPERLATIVE PLAY BY A PREMIER PLAYER PLAYING THIS GAME SUPERLATIVELY
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 07, 2013, 08:27:34 AM
Quote from: Grey Fox on October 06, 2013, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on October 06, 2013, 08:10:49 PM
Goddamn fantasy fags. I'm gonna start describing my 18th level Paladin soon.
That would still be the most information you ever shared with us by a mile.
Get bent.
swiper no swiping
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Romo is getting crucified for that last pick because Cowboys fans are fucking retarded. 506 passing yards and 5TDs? And they lost? Yeah, it wasn't that one INT, morons.
I loathe Tony Homo, but even I thought he showed testicular fortitude in that game.
The Broncos don't punt all game and its Romo's fault. :lol:
Yeah, I would normally love to pile on in the Romo-bashing, but as usual Cowboys fans are wrong about everything.
Man, these two teams make it look like circus.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2013, 08:30:26 AM
Ed obviously had to go apple picking on the one Sunday the Bungles beat the Patriots.
Yeah, and you only hear from him when the Bengals fuck up.
Go polish Mike Brown's Poloroid.
He got me a new rain suit this week!
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2013, 08:27:46 PM
He got me a new rain suit this week!
From Big Lots. Or Ollie's Bargain Outlet.
Nope, this one's genuine official NFL-issue NIEK brand :)
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
Nope, this one's genuine official NFL-issue NIEK brand :)
:lol:
Also lol @ Falcons.
Atlanta's secondary has issues. Geno is looking good, but his receivers are getting open way too easily.
Quote from: derspiess on October 07, 2013, 08:32:53 PM
Nope, this one's genuine official NFL-issue NIEK brand :)
Sounds like a Chinese knockoff.
Whoosh.
:lol:
Wow, nice job on the goal line there ATL
Holy crap, nice goal line stand. Five chances from the 1 yard line & the Falcons can't punch it in :lol:
Loved the first "Sunday Soundracks" sound bite. Tom Brady to Pacman Jones: "Good luck today!" Pacman to Tom Brady: "Huh huh huh" :D
And there's the Bengals mascot, JB, right there next to Marvin in the locker room :lol:
LOL, duck Geno! Too late!
That's the second tackle the Falcon's kicker made.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 08:58:28 AM
Romo is getting crucified for that last pick because Cowboys fans are fucking retarded. 506 passing yards and 5TDs? And they lost? Yeah, it wasn't that one INT, morons.
Um yeah ok that is what Romo always does. He look brilliant and puts up HoF numbers and then losses. Granted he usually does not do it to this extreme, that Broncos game was his masterpiece.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 08:58:28 AM
Romo is getting crucified for that last pick because Cowboys fans are fucking retarded. 506 passing yards and 5TDs? And they lost? Yeah, it wasn't that one INT, morons.
Um yeah ok that is what Romo always does. He look brilliant and puts up HoF numbers and then losses. Granted he usually does not do it to this extreme, that Broncos game was his masterpiece.
I'm not a fan of Romo, but he did pretty well considering the Broncos never punted and put up 51 points. I think the Cowboys had bigger problems on defense.
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2013, 09:57:18 PM
Um yeah ok that is what Romo always does. He look brilliant and puts up HoF numbers and then losses. Granted he usually does not do it to this extreme, that Broncos game was his masterpiece.
If you think that L is on Romo, you're no better than a typical Cowboys fan. :mellow:
E: And no, that's not what Romo always does. Romo doesn't always throw for 500+ yards and 5 touchdowns.
25/36 for 506 5TD and 1INT Yep definitely that guy's fault they lost. I'm no fan of Romo and the Cowboys, but that dude was fuckin slingin it on Sunday. Romo didn't give up 51 points, and I'm really tired of hearing idiot Cowboys fans complain about it. Schaub is out there handing the other guys free TDs in every game, and they're complaining about a dude who put 35 on the board for his own team.
Romo has had more than enough justification for the "fail" tag at times, but that loss was not his. Given a defense that did ANYTHING, he does not need the stats he had to even be tied with 2 minutes left.
500 yards speaks for itself. Y.A. Tittle would agree.
Can't really pin this one on Romo. Did all he could to win the game. Can't do it all by himself.
That's nuts that the Broncos didn't punt once.
Quote from: CountDeMoney on October 07, 2013, 10:19:40 PM
Can't really pin this one on Romo. Did all he could to win the game. Can't do it all by himself.
I never pinned it on Romo. I said this is what he does. He had the ball with two minutes to go and a chance to win and EVERYBODY in that stadium knew that INT was coming. It was hilarious how fatalistic the Cowboy fans were, he really has them well trained.
So yeah you could get into how many yards were thrown, how many TDs were scored, how horrible the defense played blah blah. But that shit has never ever mattered even a little bit. Romo, and the Cowboys, always find ways to lose and that makes me happy.
I don't think you hate the Broncos enough.
Cowboys fans are stupid and deserve Quincy Carter instead of Romo.
http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/74796/the-two-faces-of-tony-romo
QuoteRomo has 19 game-winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime, tied for fifth-most since he took over the starting job in 2006. <QBR bullshit>
This season, Romo is second in the NFL with 13 touchdown passes. And only Peyton Manning has fewer interceptions among quarterbacks with at least 30 pass attempts per.
QuoteMost INT in 4th Quarter or OT
Score Tied or Leading by 7 or Fewer
Tony Romo 8
Tom Brady 7
Matt Ryan 7
Matt Schaub 6
Chad Henne 6
*Since Tony Romo's 1st Season (2006)
So before the OMG HE COULD HAVE WON THE GAME (he couldn't because the D would have immediately given up a TD anyway) he was tied with Tom Brady and Matt Ryan of all people. Wouldn't want either one of them on my team no sir.
lol Falcons. Come all the way back, then give up the FG to lose it in the end.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 10:11:50 PM
If you think that L is on Romo, you're no better than a typical Cowboys fan. :mellow:
E: And no, that's not what Romo always does. Romo doesn't always throw for 500+ yards and 5 touchdowns.
Ok whatever. Seriously when Romo had the ball back at the end did anybody not see that INT coming? I knew it, heck the whole freaking stadium knew it and Romo did not disappoint.
And yes it is exactly what Romo always does. He puts up Hall of Fame numbers and finds ways to lose. I would certainly qualify the sort of game he had yesterday as a Hall of Fame type performance.
Yep, that's what he does. Except for the 19 game winning drives?
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 10:32:29 PM
Cowboys fans are stupid and deserve Quincy Carter instead of Romo.
The problem with guys like Carter is they are not long for the league. Romo is a long term curse.
Of course it is less fun now that Jerry has mostly dismantled the great team Parcells put together. I mean with that terrible defense they have now anybody could lose.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 10:38:08 PM
Yep, that's what he does. Except for the 19 game winning drives?
Hey I love Romo I hope he stays in Dallas for many years to come. His stats certainly suggest he is a Hall of Fame player.
You're not really reading what you're typing. If a QB is putting up "hall of fame" numbers and his team is losing, there is something wrong with the team. The QB should not be having to bring the team back or run the two minute drill throwing the ball all over the field after his offense puts up "hall of fame" numbers on the scoreboard. They should be running the clock out and taking knees.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
You're not really reading what you're typing. If a QB is putting up "hall of fame" numbers and his team is losing, there is something wrong with the team. The QB should not be having to bring the team back or run the two minute drill throwing the ball all over the field after his offense puts up "hall of fame" numbers on the scoreboard.
Yeah well not all of the defeats have come in this exact same fashion. And yes it makes no sense that is what is so amazing about it. I have never seen anything like this. He is the Marty Schottenheimer of players.
LOL Falcons.
As for Romo, it seems to me that he wins the Cowboys more games than he loses.
Quote from: MadBurgerMaker on October 07, 2013, 10:40:54 PM
You're not really reading what you're typing. If a QB is putting up "hall of fame" numbers and his team is losing, there is something wrong with the team. The QB should not be having to bring the team back or run the two minute drill throwing the ball all over the field after his offense puts up "hall of fame" numbers on the scoreboard. They should be running the clock out and taking knees.
What does that have to do with ROmo sucking?
Quote from: Valmy on October 07, 2013, 10:43:51 PM
Yeah well not all of the defeats have come in this exact same fashion.
That's the whole point, dude.
None (or at least next to none) have come in this fashion.
Quote from: Neil on October 07, 2013, 10:48:44 PM
LOL Falcons.
As for Romo, it seems to me that he wins the Cowboys more games than he loses.
He does, unfortunately.
And a Y.A. Tittle reference falls to the wayside :(
Quote from: PDH on October 07, 2013, 10:53:55 PM
And a Y.A. Tittle reference falls to the wayside :(
I appreciated it, as all those who believe they are over the hill appreciate Tittle.
Poor old bastard had to play with an experimental plexiglass face mask one year.
Sucks to be a Falcon fan atm,
QuoteHey, Falcons fans! Think things couldn't get worse for your team after falling to 1-4 and losing two straight nationally televised games? Think again!
That's right, Julio Jones, the second-leading receiver in the NFL (after New Orleans' Jimmy Graham), the guy who makes unbelievable circus-catch plays that keep Atlanta in games their defense plays them out of, is apparently out for the year with a foot injury. Jones was observed limping after Monday night's loss to the Jets, and it's clear that the injury was more serious than anyone had believed at the time.
Poor Gonzalez. He thought he was going to come back to a Ray Lewis-style ride to glory, but instead he's not even going to get to the playoffs this year.
A co-worker originally from Cleveland is all full of himself over his team's surprise winning record at this point. After some thought, I'm gonna let him have his moment :)
Oh this is nice. Some mooks showed up at Schaub's house to talk some shit and.....take photos of his family? Yeah that's not weird or creepy at all...
http://houston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/08/fans-accost-matt-schaub-at-his-home/
Yeah, the pizza promotion was funny. Shit like this is way, way, way over the line. Carson Palmer was dealing with some similar shit here, though it didn't make the news.
Texans are just weird with their football #knoxcitygreyhounds
Looks like Aldon Smith will be spending some time in jail due to being a gun nut.
Stalking the players isn't cool.
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2013, 11:13:06 AM
A co-worker originally from Cleveland is all full of himself over his team's surprise winning record at this point. After some thought, I'm gonna let him have his moment :)
For someone who is a legitimate Browns fan, that seems only charitable. :)
Quote from: Barrister on October 09, 2013, 10:55:07 PM
Quote from: derspiess on October 09, 2013, 11:13:06 AM
A co-worker originally from Cleveland is all full of himself over his team's surprise winning record at this point. After some thought, I'm gonna let him have his moment :)
For someone who is a legitimate Browns fan, that seems only charitable. :)
:thumbsup:
Besides, I would imagine that the rest of the season will take care of the job of kicking Browns fans in the balls. Remember how the Cardinals started last year 3-0? You are who your record says you are, but only at the end of the year.
Forgot to mention, last Sunday I met the dude who was at the center of Spygate :ph34r:
Seedy, slacker.
Quote from: derspiess on October 10, 2013, 08:15:51 AM
Forgot to mention, last Sunday I met the dude who was at the center of Spygate :ph34r:
The guy with the camera? Or Mangini?
Quote from: Neil on October 10, 2013, 10:35:57 AM
Quote from: derspiess on October 10, 2013, 08:15:51 AM
Forgot to mention, last Sunday I met the dude who was at the center of Spygate :ph34r:
The guy with the camera? Or Mangini?
Video guy.