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Title: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 04:54:55 PM
This happened about 90 miles south of us. We have good friends who live in the town. (Some may recognize it as the home of one of the largest crosses in the country, set up right next to the interstate.)

Other reports claim that after she tripped and fell, he saw her twitch, so he went inside, got a knife, and came out to "put her out of her misery". The stabbings are believed to be what killed her, not the stick.

QuotePolice suspect that a family member killed a 7-year-old girl who went missing Sunday.

Justin DeRyke, 22, of Watson, Ill., was arrested on Tuesday after authorities found Willow Long's body south of town, CNN reports. DeRyke is the victim's maternal uncle.

DeRyke's father Dale told KDSK that his son confessed to the killing during police questioning. Justin DeRyke was reportedly watching Long and her younger brother on Saturday night while their mother was away from home. He told police that Willow woke up and started playing that night, when she ran outside and tripped in the yard, Dale DeRyke said.

"She ran, she tripped a stick went right through her neck and into her head," he told the station. "He's thinking oh my God, I killed her or she just died they are going to blame me, he's not thinking correctly ... I believe he put her out of her misery, and that's all I can say for sure."

On Sunday, Long's mother said she was taking a 90-minute nap due to a headache. When she awoke, Long was missing. Police initially thought Long disappeared while reenacting a scene from the movie she was watching, "The Princess and the Frog."

An autopsy is underway at a hospital in Effingham. Police say the death appears to be a homicide, though an official cause of death hasn't been released.

The state attorney's office is expected to file first-degree murder charges today, and DeRyke will make an initial court appearance.

Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
Am I suppose to know who Willow Long is? 

Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: jimmy olsen on September 11, 2013, 05:37:46 PM
I thought I was going to be reading about a midget murdered by a geriatric uncle here.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
Am I suppose to know who Willow Long is?

Well, if you read the OP, yes. Otherwise, not unless you happened to see the Amber Alerts for her. :mellow:
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 06:17:06 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
Am I suppose to know who Willow Long is?

Well, if you read the OP, yes. Otherwise, not unless you happened to see the Amber Alerts for her. :mellow:

Well normally you only put the name of person in the header if people are expected to recognize it.  Otherwise it'd be something like "Illinois girl killed by uncle".  It also works in reverse:  You wouldn't write "Illinois man threatens to bomb Syria", you'd write "Barack Obama threatens to bomb Syria".

As an aside, "she fell on a stick and so I had to take her out her misery with a knife" is a terrible legal defense.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 06:17:06 PM
Well normally you only put the name of person in the header if people are expected to recognize it.  Otherwise it'd be something like "Illinois girl killed by uncle".  It also works in reverse:  You wouldn't write "Illinois man threatens to bomb Syria", you'd write "Barack Obama threatens to bomb Syria".

You mean you wouldn't. I, obviously, would.

QuoteAs an aside, "she fell on a stick and so I had to take her out her misery with a knife" is a terrible legal defense.

That was why I posted the thread. It seemed a very strange line of defense.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 06:26:22 PM
Alright, whatever.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:27:40 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 06:17:06 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 05:56:09 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 05:08:56 PM
Am I suppose to know who Willow Long is?

Well, if you read the OP, yes. Otherwise, not unless you happened to see the Amber Alerts for her. :mellow:

Well normally you only put the name of person in the header if people are expected to recognize it.  Otherwise it'd be something like "Illinois girl killed by uncle".  It also works in reverse:  You wouldn't write "Illinois man threatens to bomb Syria", you'd write "Barack Obama threatens to bomb Syria".

As an aside, "she fell on a stick and so I had to take her out her misery with a knife" is a terrible legal defense.

Indeed.  That's for a properly convened Death Panel to decide.

P.S.: Concur regarding Meri's journalism.  It thought Willow Long was somehow famous outside of disappearing in a state that I've never been to and which, as far I know, could be entirely fictional.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
You guys really are ridiculous on what you latch onto on threads. Not the fact that a seven-year-old child was killed by her uncle in a horrible way, that his defense is insane (thought not one of insanity), or that it was only a short distance from where I live.

No. You bitch because you don't like the thread title.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Caliga on September 11, 2013, 06:31:56 PM
I was wondering if maybe the story got saturation coverage in Meri's area, and so she thought it was a national story and assumed we'd know the name.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Neil on September 11, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
For us, the big problem isn't some random kid getting killed.  The problem is that you're acting like you expect us to know who she is.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
You guys really are ridiculous on what you latch onto on threads. Not the fact that a seven-year-old child was killed by her uncle in a horrible way, that his defense is insane (thought not one of insanity), or that it was only a short distance from where I live.

No. You bitch because you don't like the thread title.  :rolleyes:

Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: katmai on September 11, 2013, 06:39:28 PM
Quote from: Neil on September 11, 2013, 06:33:39 PM
For us, the big problem isn't some random kid getting killed.  The problem is that you're acting like you expect us to know who she is.
:yes:
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
I liked the movie Willow. Eat it.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Caliga on September 11, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
I liked the movie Willow. Eat it.
I liked the part with the midgets.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 11, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
I liked the movie Willow. Eat it.
I liked the part with the midgets.

Ahem. "Little people"
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 07:04:57 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: Caliga on September 11, 2013, 06:41:24 PM
Quote from: Ed Anger on September 11, 2013, 06:40:04 PM
I liked the movie Willow. Eat it.
I liked the part with the midgets.

Ahem. "Little people"

Except there guys who were even littler.  They sounded French, but looked like Yahoo Serious.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: dps on September 11, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
You guys really are ridiculous on what you latch onto on threads. Not the fact that a seven-year-old child was killed by her uncle in a horrible way, that his defense is insane (thought not one of insanity), or that it was only a short distance from where I live.

No. You bitch because you don't like the thread title.  :rolleyes:

Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Yeah, it's not like anyone here was going to enthusiastically cheer for her death.  Well, maybe Viking if he figures that she believed in God.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Phillip V on September 11, 2013, 07:15:48 PM
The whole extended family should be put in prison.

Yet another reminder: the person most likely to rape and/or kill your child is your relative or partner.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Maximus on September 11, 2013, 07:21:19 PM
We should put all relatives and partners in prison to be safe.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: Maximus on September 11, 2013, 07:21:19 PM
We should put all relatives and partners in prison to be safe.

You know Meri can read that right?
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: garbon on September 11, 2013, 09:29:04 PM
Quote from: dps on September 11, 2013, 07:09:48 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
You guys really are ridiculous on what you latch onto on threads. Not the fact that a seven-year-old child was killed by her uncle in a horrible way, that his defense is insane (thought not one of insanity), or that it was only a short distance from where I live.

No. You bitch because you don't like the thread title.  :rolleyes:

Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Yeah, it's not like anyone here was going to enthusiastically cheer for her death.  Well, maybe Viking if he figures that she believed in God.

Yeah sorry, mer, but that's really all we have to latch on to here.

That said, dps, you left out Neil, if she was a lesbian; Malthus, if she was in favor of Quebec separatism; Seeds, if she was black and because she was female; Ide & Jos, if she had a job; Grallon, if she was a Muslim.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2013, 09:33:01 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 04:54:55 PM
Other reports claim that after she tripped and fell, he saw her twitch, so he went inside, got a knife, and came out to "put her out of her misery". The stabbings are believed to be what killed her, not the stick.

Certainly inventive, in a way.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Murder is bad. Yes, that's true.

Murder of a 7-year-old child by her uncle using the argument, "She fell on a stick, and I put her out of her misery"? That's .... insanity. I thought that would garner some reaction other than "Haha! Dum thred titel!!" I was mistaken.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2013, 09:48:37 PM
Don't let these Assburgers and lawyers get to you, Meri.  Thread title is fine. 
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: garbon on September 11, 2013, 09:49:14 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Murder is bad. Yes, that's true.

Murder of a 7-year-old child by her uncle using the argument, "She fell on a stick, and I put her out of her misery"? That's .... insanity. I thought that would garner some reaction other than "Haha! Dum thred titel!!" I was mistaken.

Criminals are stupid so no...didn't strike me as particularly insane. :blush:
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 10:05:12 PM
Yeah, I agree with garbon.  That's just stupid.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: DGuller on September 11, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Murder is bad. Yes, that's true.

Murder of a 7-year-old child by her uncle using the argument, "She fell on a stick, and I put her out of her misery"? That's .... insanity. I thought that would garner some reaction other than "Haha! Dum thred titel!!" I was mistaken.
It's sad when children die, but threads have to have proper titles.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
To be honest, these stories always depress me.  We had one in the area last month.  Guy kidnapped a girl, and the Amber Alert went out immediately.  They caught the guy an hour and a half after she was kidnapped.  Still wasn't fast enough.  He didn't even have the decency of telling them where the body was, so it took several days to find her.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 11, 2013, 10:35:41 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2013, 09:48:37 PM
Thread title is fine.

It meets Siege's standards of specificity, at least.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 10:45:24 PM
Here's an article with more information, including the comment that she had defensive wounds on her hands.

QuoteA 22-year-old man on Wednesday was officially charged with killing his 7-year-old niece as more details got released on what happened in the moments leading up to and after her death.

Justin DeRyke was charged at the Effingham County Courthouse with three counts of first-degree murder in the death of Willow Long. His bond was set at $5 million.

According to court documents, DeRyke told officers he was home alone watching Long and other children when the alleged incident occurred. Police said Long's mother was at a local bar and her grandparents were working as truck drivers at the time.

DeRyke told police he spend most of the evening in his room playing video games. When he left the room to go to the bathroom, he said Long tugged on his arm and asked him to watch a movie with her. During the exchange, DeRyke said the girl accidentally scratched his arm, causing it to bleed.

He reportedly got upset and yelled at Long, which caused her to run into the front yard. According to his statement DeRyke said she then fell on a brush pile, causing a stick to impale her in the neck.
The 22-year-old said he wanted to end her suffering.
 

Prosecutors said DeRyke then slit her throat before stabbing her in the heart and throat. Police said DeRyke put the girl's body in a plastic bag, duct taped it and dumped it in the Little Wabash River. That's where her body was found by four volunteers around 7:30 p.m. Monday. DeRyke was arrested about 6 a.m. Tuesday.

According to police, an autopsy concluded Long's throat had been slashed, and she had stab wounds on her collarbone and neck, as well as defensive wounds on her hands.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Eddie Teach on September 11, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
How are there three murder charges with one body? :unsure:
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 10:48:39 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 11, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
How are there three murder charges with one body? :unsure:

I think it's because there are three wounds that could cause the murder, but I'm not sure.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 10:53:32 PM
Quote from: Peter Wiggin on September 11, 2013, 10:48:00 PM
How are there three murder charges with one body? :unsure:


That's a really good question.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Admiral Yi on September 11, 2013, 10:53:42 PM
Quote from: CountDeMoney on September 11, 2013, 09:48:37 PM
Don't let these Assburgers and lawyers get to you, Meri.  Thread title is fine.

Sorry to pile on while you're feeling so brittle Meri, but you did bury the leed.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Ed Anger on September 12, 2013, 06:11:48 AM
Quote from: Razgovory on September 11, 2013, 10:25:55 PM
To be honest, these stories always depress me.  We had one in the area last month.  Guy kidnapped a girl, and the Amber Alert went out immediately.  They caught the guy an hour and a half after she was kidnapped.  Still wasn't fast enough.  He didn't even have the decency of telling them where the body was, so it took several days to find her.

There was a case years ago in dayton where a girl interrupted her mom boning. So she hit her. With her hand that was in a cast. Then her and white trash piece of shit boyfriend told the cops that she was missing. She wasn't. They dumped her body in one of the old industrial sites.

Fucking white trash. They should have stung those two up right then and there.
Title: Re: Willow Long killed by uncle
Post by: Berkut on September 12, 2013, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: DGuller on September 11, 2013, 10:18:55 PM
Quote from: merithyn on September 11, 2013, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Ideologue on September 11, 2013, 06:34:16 PM
Hey, what kind of commentary do you want regarding the murder?  It's bad.  That's all I've got.

Murder is bad. Yes, that's true.

Murder of a 7-year-old child by her uncle using the argument, "She fell on a stick, and I put her out of her misery"? That's .... insanity. I thought that would garner some reaction other than "Haha! Dum thred titel!!" I was mistaken.
It's sad when children die, but threads have to have proper titles.

Indeed.

We cannot control the horror and tragedy of random uncles killing children, but we can control our own civic duty, even responsibility, to create meaningful, appropriate, and useful thread titles.

While I find the uncles defense somewhat surprising and less then compelling, I have to say it is better than Meri's defense of her thread title.

Discuss.