QuoteNEWPORT, Tenn. (AP) — A judge in Tennessee changed a 7-month-old boy's name to Martin from Messiah, saying the religious name was earned by one person and "that one person is Jesus Christ."
Child Support Magistrate Lu Ann Ballew ordered the name change last week, according to WBIR-TV (http://on.wbir.com/1cDOeTY). The boy's parents were in court because they could not agree on the child's last name, but when the judge heard the boy's first name, she ordered it changed, too.
"It could put him at odds with a lot of people and at this point he has had no choice in what his name is," Ballew said.
It was the first time she ordered a first name change, the judge said.
Messiah was No. 4 among the fastest-rising baby names in 2012, according to the Social Security Administration's annual list of popular baby names.
The judge in eastern Tennessee said the baby was to be named Martin DeShawn McCullough, which includes both parents' last name.
The boy's mother, Jaleesa Martin, of Newport, said she will appeal. She says Messiah is unique and she liked how it sounded alongside the boy's two siblings — Micah and Mason.
"Everybody believes what they want so I think I should be able to name my child what I want to name him, not someone else," Martin said.
Ballew said the name Messiah could cause problems if the child grows up in Cocke County, which has a large Christian population.
"The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ," the judge said.
Quote from: katmai on August 11, 2013, 08:08:30 PM
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"The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ," the judge said.
WTF? Strange a guy dictating theology from the bench would be so mind bogglingly ignorant of the Bible.
Quote from: Valmy on August 11, 2013, 09:35:17 PM
Quote from: katmai on August 11, 2013, 08:08:30 PM
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"The word Messiah is a title and it's a title that has only been earned by one person and that one person is Jesus Christ," the judge said.
WTF? Strange a guy dictating theology from the bench would be so mind bogglingly ignorant of the Bible.
The guy wasn't a guy.
Well then she should have remembered 1 Timothy 2:11 and not gone on preaching :P
The name "Jesus" however is a dime a dozen.
I can't see this one being upheld on appeal.
QuoteNEWPORT, Tenn. (AP) — A judge in Tennessee changed a 7-month-old boy's name to Martin from Messiah, saying the religious name was earned by one person and "that one person is Jesus Christ."
See, the person I feel bad for is the law grad who works for a year for this woman and then winds up in doc review, while the magistrate who clearly violated at least two First Amendment principles in a way only a complete retard could do will be just fine, get her pension, and so on.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 12, 2013, 12:16:40 AM
See, the person I feel bad for is the law grad who works for a year for this woman and then winds up in doc review, while the magistrate who clearly violated at least two First Amendment principles in a way only a complete retard could do will be just fine, get her pension, and so on.
Everybody has to wait their turn, rookie.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 12, 2013, 12:16:40 AM
QuoteNEWPORT, Tenn. (AP) — A judge in Tennessee changed a 7-month-old boy's name to Martin from Messiah, saying the religious name was earned by one person and "that one person is Jesus Christ."
See, the person I feel bad for is the law grad who works for a year for this woman and then winds up in doc review, while the magistrate who clearly violated at least two First Amendment principles in a way only a complete retard could do will be just fine, get her pension, and so on.
Pretty sure this violates the judicial canons as well. So this judge may be up for a reprimand.
Good, it's about time someone got a handel on the overuse of this name.
Boo. Hiss. Boo.
Hallelujah.
I bet he'll be a very naughty boy.
Quote from: Brazen on August 12, 2013, 07:37:48 AM
I bet he'll be a very naught boy.
Yeah it is like naming a daughter 'chastity'.
I mean you are just asking for it.
From a babynames website, synonyms to Messiah include
Anjita, Carsten, Chandnin, Chrys, Crysta, Karsten, Khristos, Krist, Kristian, Kristin, Kristr, Krystan and Samoel.
There are lots of Karstens, Kristians and Kristins around here.
(https://languish.org/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.telegraph.co.uk%2Fmultimedia%2Farchive%2F02023%2Fhes-not-the-messia_2023026i.jpg&hash=b6b35a245203e9321396ef71a6991ba4b3d07306)
Quote from: Brazen on August 12, 2013, 08:27:35 AM
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Oh right :blush:
Quote from: Viking on August 12, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
From a babynames website, synonyms to Messiah include
Anjita, Carsten, Chandnin, Chrys, Crysta, Karsten, Khristos, Krist, Kristian, Kristin, Kristr, Krystan and Samoel.
There are lots of Karstens, Kristians and Kristins around here.
Lots of Brians too.
So...is the judge opposing it on jesussy lines or are they just being nice to the kid and saving him from rabid cross
worshippers?
:nelson: anyway. Going to the judge on an unrelated matter and getting this idiocy put right.
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 12, 2013, 10:32:03 AM
Quote from: Viking on August 12, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
From a babynames website, synonyms to Messiah include
Anjita, Carsten, Chandnin, Chrys, Crysta, Karsten, Khristos, Krist, Kristian, Kristin, Kristr, Krystan and Samoel.
There are lots of Karstens, Kristians and Kristins around here.
Lots of Brians too.
You find Brians in Denmark, not Norway.
Isn't it an Irish name?
Some people dont watch enough Monty Python. But I see Brazen was there before me. :)
Quote from: crazy canuck on August 12, 2013, 10:45:59 AM
Some people dont watch enough Monty Python.
Some people jump to conclusions.
I wonder if this is a real judge or one of those fake elected 'judge' positions we're fond of in the South. :hmm:
Since the judge is named 'Lu Ann' I would tend to lean toward the latter. :)
She's a magistrate. They are appointed by juvenile court judges. The only requirements is that they must be "suitable" (not defined) and be a member of the TN bar. These may be part time positions and the magistrates (and even the juvenile judges) can carry on their own private law practices.
Quote from: Viking on August 12, 2013, 08:22:37 AM
From a babynames website, synonyms to Messiah include
Anjita, Carsten, Chandnin, Chrys, Crysta, Karsten, Khristos, Krist, Kristian, Kristin, Kristr, Krystan and Samoel.
There are lots of Karstens, Kristians and Kristins around here.
A guy I know once had a complaint/observation about all the Hispanic guys named "Jesus."
His name was Josh.
Quote from: Ideologue on August 12, 2013, 04:06:05 PM
A guy I know once had a complaint/observation about all the Hispanic guys named "Jesus."
His name was Josh.
:frusty:
:lol:
Hunter de Valera.
Hello. My name is Hunter Montoya. You ate my Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. Prepare to die.
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2013, 07:47:59 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 12, 2013, 07:37:48 AM
I bet he'll be a very naught boy.
Yeah it is like naming a daughter 'chastity'.
I mean you are just asking for it.
Wooosh...the sound of a joke going over Valmy's head :lol:
edit: Ok, ok, he got it finally,
Quote from: Tyr on August 12, 2013, 10:33:40 AM
So...is the judge opposing it on jesussy lines or are they just being nice to the kid and saving him from rabid cross
worshippers?
Seems to be both from her comments.
She's
probably overstepping her authority in doing it in "best intersts of the child" or whatever they call it in Tennessee, but definately doing it because she thinkts that only Jesus Christ has earned the title should be right out legally.
Quote from: Josephus on August 12, 2013, 06:55:25 PM
Quote from: Valmy on August 12, 2013, 07:47:59 AM
Quote from: Brazen on August 12, 2013, 07:37:48 AM
I bet he'll be a very naught boy.
Yeah it is like naming a daughter 'chastity'.
I mean you are just asking for it.
Wooosh...the sound of a joke going over Valmy's head :lol:
edit: Ok, ok, he got it finally,
I love that movie to. How embarrasing :blush:
And I only needed one more post to get it!
A man called Messiah:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23626986 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23626986)
QuoteThere were 762 American baby boys named Messiah last year, and that figure is growing. The Social Security Administration ranks it the fourth fastest-growing name for baby boys - it leapt from 633rd in 2011 to 387th in 2012.
http://www.ourbabynamer.com/Raistlin-name-popularity.html
:homestar: