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#1

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Darth Wagtaros - Today at 02:12:41 PM

They failed to achieve the objective set forward by the Commander in chief of the US Army.  The US intelligence report says so.

In the past, when an army ceded the field at the end of the day, not matter if the battle seemed like a tactical draw, it meant a loss.

I'm counting this one as a loss for the US.

A fuckton of military expenditures for not achieving its goals.

Well, since it allowed you to sound obnoxious and superior, the cost was worth it.

If this was 1943, you would be crowing that the US lost the war to Germany because the last B-17 bombing run did not force the Germans to surrender.

Don't forget Kasserine Pass.  Hitler himself said we were like the Italians, which is about as vile an insult as has ever been levied against any nation. 

#2

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by grumbler - Today at 12:03:53 PM

They failed to achieve the objective set forward by the Commander in chief of the US Army.  The US intelligence report says so.

In the past, when an army ceded the field at the end of the day, not matter if the battle seemed like a tactical draw, it meant a loss.

I'm counting this one as a loss for the US.

A fuckton of military expenditures for not achieving its goals.

Well, since it allowed you to sound obnoxious and superior, the cost was worth it.

If this was 1943, you would be crowing that the US lost the war to Germany because the last B-17 bombing run did not force the Germans to surrender.

#3

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by viper37 - Today at 10:11:58 AM

You sure?  You lost the last one with Grey Fox.

I'm sure. Impossible to adjudicate.

I did not.

The USA has lost against Iran, the Ayatollah himself said so.

They failed to achieve the objective set forward by the Commander in chief of the US Army.  The US intelligence report says so.

In the past, when an army ceded the field at the end of the day, not matter if the battle seemed like a tactical draw, it meant a loss.

I'm counting this one as a loss for the US.

A fuckton of military expenditures for not achieving its goals.

#4

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Syt - Today at 09:34:31 AM

We had our final 36h exercise in blistering sun, running around in gas mask and shrapnel wests. Noone told me that soldiering was so hysterically sweaty. I sweated through and into my backpack and down to my knees.

Also: yes. Worst was the shitty "rain gear" we had. Some already got nice Goretex stuff, most of us still had rubber pants/jackets that made you sweat so much that it you'd be soaked either way.

Our basic training was during a particularly hot spell (over 30°C ... it was unusual for us at the time ), and during one of our first field days, our Captain assured us we'd have enough drink. Which ended up being a bottle of sparkling water of 0.7l. To share between two people. We had a few people collapse on the march back to base from exhaustion/heat/dehydration. Our captain got thoroughly chewed out by our base chief of medical.

Though we also then shifted our field days to start at 4-5 am (by which time it would already be fairly light outside) and take a long break during midday heat.

#5

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Syt - Today at 09:31:05 AM

Due to the incompetence of a generation of politicians I trained on a H&K G3 built in 1967...

So did I, 30 years ago

#6

Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic

Last post by Threviel - Today at 07:32:57 AM

So. With everything going to shit i've joined the Home Guard. Just back from my basic basic two weeks military training.

Due to the incompetence of a generation of politicians I trained on a H&K G3 built in 1967...

We had our final 36h exercise in blistering sun, running around in gas mask and shrapnel wests. Noone told me that soldiering was so hysterically sweaty. I sweated through and into my backpack and down to my knees.

#7

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Tamas - Today at 06:09:16 AM

The USA has lost against Iran, the Ayatollah himself said so.

Your point eludes me.

#8

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 05:30:21 AM

The USA has lost against Iran, the Ayatollah himself said so.

Your point eludes me.

#9

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Tamas - Today at 05:16:11 AM

You sure?  You lost the last one with Grey Fox.

I'm sure. Impossible to adjudicate.

I did not.

The USA has lost against Iran, the Ayatollah himself said so.

#10

Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread

Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 04:42:42 AM

Convincing stuff celery.