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#1
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Legbiter - Today at 08:13:57 PM
QuoteNEW — Korean media published an image from today, showing the US dismantling its THAAD and Patriot systems from S-Korea, to send to the Middle East.



They're trying to plug the gap in coverage since Iran took out several such systems. The US made twelve (12) THAAD interceptors last year. The russians or the Chinese will spot these immediately and given Tehran the coordinates.
#2
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 08:07:20 PM
And I suspect the next phase is likely to be to escalate beyond the Gulf, I still think at some point Iran will involve the Houthis trying to close the Red Sea.

Edit: And on ther other hand Iran issuing fairly threatening comments about any protesters (basically saying they'll be treated as enemies and the security forces will shoot) and reports of checkpoints in Tehran and on major roads.
#3
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Legbiter - Today at 07:44:57 PM
This shitshow war continues. The Iranians have started mining the Hormuz Strait. This is now a covid-tier global economic shock.
#4
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 06:47:42 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on Today at 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 04:55:27 PMImage of ship status'

A listing/graphic like that should be classified.

But I am guessing it could be a product of enthusiasts/"ship spotters"...shoot, plane spotters used to save me a lot of legwork.  :P

 :D

Psst, you don't know me, but I'm told B-52 have been seen in England not 70 miles from here.  :ph34r:

It turned out that the Russians have them to.  :P

But I am still kinda surprised that they let the plane spotting spot right off RAF Waddington stay there...when I lived nearby, it even expanded and put in space for a food truck.  :wacko:

borsht?
#5
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Tonitrus - Today at 06:31:16 PM
Quote from: mongers on Today at 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 04:55:27 PMImage of ship status'

A listing/graphic like that should be classified.

But I am guessing it could be a product of enthusiasts/"ship spotters"...shoot, plane spotters used to save me a lot of legwork.  :P

 :D

Psst, you don't know me, but I'm told B-52 have been seen in England not 70 miles from here.  :ph34r:

It turned out that the Russians have them to.  :P

But I am still kinda surprised that they let the plane spotting spot right off RAF Waddington stay there...when I lived nearby, it even expanded and put in space for a food truck.  :wacko:
#6
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 06:29:53 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 04:55:27 PMImage of ship status'

A listing/graphic like that should be classified.

But I am guessing it could be a product of enthusiasts/"ship spotters"...shoot, plane spotters used to save me a lot of legwork.  :P

It's as if Britain's navy isn't even ruling the bathtub in Downing Street 10 currently :(
#7
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 06:25:25 PM
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on Today at 05:31:59 PMI think most are in the Indian Ocean.

Also—ISW which has been doing high quality daily reports stated today their satellite data partner at DOD request will now delay all satellite imagery by 14 days, so ISW will no longer be able to confirm aerial strikes in its daily maps.

how 'delightfully' authoritarian. Next they'll tell us Paulus is still holding out in Volgograd
#8
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by mongers - Today at 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 04:43:43 PMTrump has shown he cares little for allies. If he can get his mission accomplished photo op on a boat and some slaps on the back he'll be ecstatic. Maybe throw in a few peace prizes for bringing peace to the middle east. Then it'll all start over once epstein is in the news again. What people should worry about is who he'll attack next after Cuba to get ahead of the news cycle.

My meaning was not so much about the alliances themselves, but about a belligerent and dangerous Iran keeping Hormuz closed indefinitely after Trump bows out. 

They will be much more incentivized and likely to threaten and blackmail the other gulf states.  Probably even for reparations to rebuild destroyed oil infrastructure on the "if we can't do it, neither will you" idea.

Well trump famously judged Zelensky of having not cards, now the Iranians had very few cards, which trump might have seen as weakness and gone along with Israel's attack, hoping to destroy the whole Iranian hand, so to speak.

But it turns out Iran has one card left, closing the straits, a trump card to trump trump if you will.
#9
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 06:20:30 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:00:48 PM
Quote from: HVC on Today at 04:43:43 PMTrump has shown he cares little for allies. If he can get his mission accomplished photo op on a boat and some slaps on the back he'll be ecstatic. Maybe throw in a few peace prizes for bringing peace to the middle east. Then it'll all start over once epstein is in the news again. What people should worry about is who he'll attack next after Cuba to get ahead of the news cycle.

My meaning was not so much about the alliances themselves, but about a belligerent and dangerous Iran keeping Hormuz closed indefinitely after Trump bows out. 

They will be much more incentivized and likely to threaten and blackmail the other gulf states.  Probably even for reparations to rebuild destroyed oil infrastructure on the "if we can't do it, neither will you" idea.

I think it would be a bit more nuanced, and frankly reasonable, to say "Hey you guys were the ones who let the US into this region, now take some responsibility for cleaning up the mess you helped create."
#10
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by mongers - Today at 06:11:12 PM
Quote from: Tonitrus on Today at 06:02:14 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 04:55:27 PMImage of ship status'

A listing/graphic like that should be classified.

But I am guessing it could be a product of enthusiasts/"ship spotters"...shoot, plane spotters used to save me a lot of legwork.  :P

 :D

Psst, you don't know me, but I'm told B-52 have been seen in England not 70 miles from here.  :ph34r: