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Off the Record / Re: Climate Change/Mass Extinc...

Last post by Norgy - Today at 03:04:51 AM

This has been the case for Norway as well. When it rains, it pours. Our infrastructure has been found wanting and we are woefully ill prepared for the weather changing. As some probably know, Norway is sort of... hilly and with mountains. Large quantities of water from above tend to release whatever light stones and soil in huge mudslides. This is bad. As people live below hills. And mudslides are bad for houses. And that resale value.

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Off the Record / Re: Bobby Kennedy Junior

Last post by Norgy - Today at 02:49:35 AM

Pasteurisation was probably the fundamental change that made dairy products more available even for kids in the city.

Milk from the cow, if you had one, had a shelf life of one to two days before pasteurisation.

The MAHA crowd seems to reject any idea of eating vegetables and firmly grasps "proteins" as what will make you ripped and healthy. Joe Rogan is one such person.

I think the health secretary may have confused raw milk with whole milk. But that is just a theory.
Most Europeans, I believe, look at the lax regulation of American food industries and nod at how the EU has banned this and that additive (even though allowing huge amounts of antibiotics in animal feed).

The fact of the matter that across continents, people eat a lot of affordable crap instead of healthy, and somewhat unaffordable foods. A good cut of a farmed salmon is around 30 to 38 Euro per kilo in Norway. And we produce this shit. A frozen ultra-processed pizza is 4 Euro. For 700 grams or so of flour, "cheese" and "ham" and some red stuff claiming to be tomato.

The label "ultra-processed" is somewhat problematic as well, as it applies to both Doritos and the method of making liver paste and some traditional sausages.

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Gaming HQ / Re: The Miscellaneous PC & vid...

Last post by Tonitrus - Today at 02:40:12 AM

I imagine it is also a bit like watching a movie you loved as a kid.  You may still some nostalgic feels...but you also now realize/see all the holes and flaws.  And some "rerun" fatigue.

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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by Razgovory - Today at 02:25:57 AM

Come now, I think CC can explain this himself.

#5

Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...

Last post by Solmyr - Today at 01:37:18 AM

Man of the people here.

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Gaming HQ / Re: The Miscellaneous PC & vid...

Last post by Solmyr - Today at 01:34:19 AM

I got the newish reskin of Master of Magic, as I've been lpaying the original a lot. Not sure I like it.

Nostalgia is strong with that game, but there's been a lot of QoL development in Civ-like games in 30 years.

[Raw milk definitely has safety risks, namely food poisoning. Pasteurization eliminates that risk.]

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Off the Record / Re: Bobby Kennedy Junior

Last post by crazy canuck - February 19, 2026, 11:31:37 PM

You can buy raw milk in lots of European countries.

It's nothing to do with safety - it's industrial capture of regulators in America and MacDonaldisation and mass production of food is not "safer".

Oh my, so much misinformation, so little time to correct it.

Raw milk definitely has safety risks, namely food poisoning.  Pasteurization eliminates that risk. If a source of raw milk can be found where there is a high degree of confidence that the practices used to obtain, store and ship the milk has a low chance of being contaminated with salmonella, E. coli and listeria then of course the risk is reduced.

But have you ever actually been to a diary farm?  You do realize there is shit every where right? You would need to have a very high degree confidence the diary farmer has taken all necessary precautions.

Cheese from raw milk is a different matter - the risk there is much lower.

This was the public safety lesson learnt in the the early 20th century, I don't know why people think in the 21st century that a different one can be an outcome?

My pet theory is that a lot of people's knowledge extends only as far back as an Internet search will reach.

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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by Valmy - February 19, 2026, 10:44:13 PM

Foreign workers putting Romans out of work was certainly a factor?

What has happened to the American educational system?

The lack of further conquests and so the lack of additional slaves and the spoils of war enriching Romans is a bit better of an explanation.

Oh, please explain why the lack of conquests caused the Republic to fall.  I am all ears.

No it was very much the opposite of that that caused the Republic to fall 

Well sort of. The rich Romans didn't need the poor Romans anymore.

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Off the Record / Re: Bobby Kennedy Junior

Last post by frunk - February 19, 2026, 09:15:36 PM

In RFK's case I think there is a a vague suspicion that American food regulation isn't healthy - and 25 years ago I suspect every single person on this forum currently defending American food regulation as a good thing would have agreed that it's unhealthy and been on the side of Jose Bove. And they would have been right. I think we're negatively polarised away from that - a distasteful person who is wrong is talking about it so we oppose which I don't think is adequate.

I definitely wouldn't of agreed with you 25 years ago.  The conservative push towards deregulation had already started by then, and I was very skeptical of the benefits of that.  Every large organization can benefit from reform, but that's very different from advocating for its elimination on principle and we already had the start of that movement.

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Off the Record / Re: Bobby Kennedy Junior

Last post by Razgovory - February 19, 2026, 09:10:29 PM

It is part of a larger revolt against elites.  All experts, including health officials and doctors are part of the elite class.  If not by wealth than by education.