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#1

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Valmy - February 09, 2026, 10:58:18 PM

Ok, no chain.  They need to spend 3 years in the country.  But they get a favorable treatment comparable to other immigrants who'd want to become citizens, no?

If an Ivorian wanted to become a Canadian citizen, he couldn't just come here on a visa and become a citizen after 3 years, no?

I probably would need to actually find some kind of conclusive proof this guy was actually born in Sutton, Quebec. His family fled there after foul treachery occured in their native Rhode Island, but it isn't like I have some kind of birth certificate from 1811 laying around.

But hey maybe we just need to finally make our way up to Cape Breton. Hopefully we can drive across the Gordie Howe bridge on our way.

#2

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by mongers - February 09, 2026, 10:05:11 PM

Well that Reddit community explains why the AI answered the way it did. Almost every dossier is a 4 generation descendant of the Canadian citizen.

I don't know if it's enough but it's the same situation Valmy find himself in.

Tbf, that's just the summary table.  I did quizz a lot more than that.

Valmy or his children could get the citizenship.

Then whomever gets the citizenship has to stay in Canada 3 years so that their children can get the citizenship.

Valmy gets the citizenship.  He sends his kids to study at UQAM.  They go back to Texas.  They send their kids to study at McGill. They move back to the independent Republic of California. Their children study at UBC because it's the hip thing to do when you want to be in a serious basketball league.  They meet CC's and Zoupa's great grandaughters who have become staple of the New Canadian Liberal Conservative Party opposed to the Republican Bloc.  And so on and so on they're all Canadians.

 

#3

Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by viper37 - February 09, 2026, 09:55:09 PM

I find it strange, weird and disturbing that an elected leader is officially rating half-time shows and officially disparages an athlete from one's own country that has won Olympic gold. Particularly when said elected leader's brain consists of gold and hamberder.

Well, you haven't read his latest rant about the Gordie Howe bridge between Ontario (Canada) and Michigan (US).

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/trump-gordie-howe-bridge-9.7081924

#4

Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by viper37 - February 09, 2026, 09:52:58 PM

The over sensitivity and insanity of the outrage machine is ridiculous.

They're snowflakes.

#5

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by viper37 - February 09, 2026, 08:53:25 PM

Can dead people who would've been able to get Canadian citizenship if they were alive under the current legislation be granted Canadian citizenship retroactively?

The "OMG is this for real" reading seems to imply that if anyone of your direct ancestors were Canadians, then each of the descendants gets posthumous citizenship in turn, creating a domino effect of citizenship.

On the other hand when I read the link Grey Fox shared, the requirement seems to be at minimum that you are a grandchild of a Canadian citizen and that your Canadian descended parent spent at least 3 years in Canada. It says nothing about posthumous citizenship being granted to dead non-Canadian citizens if they would've qualified under the current law.

Presumbably if your great-great grandparent was a Canadian and had a child (your great grandparent) that spent at least 3 years in Canada, that great-grandparent could become a citizen now. But if they're dead then they are not and have never been a Canadian citizen, they're never going to be able to apply for citizenship or take the oath - so the chain of citizenship eligibility would seem to end there.

No

Also, there is no chain of eligibility. The initial post that suggested there was what simply wrong. 

Ok, no chain.  They need to spend 3 years in the country.  But they get a favorable treatment comparable to other immigrants who'd want to become citizens, no?

If an Ivorian wanted to become a Canadian citizen, he couldn't just come here on a visa and become a citizen after 3 years, no?

#6

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by viper37 - February 09, 2026, 08:40:44 PM

Can dead people who would've been able to get Canadian citizenship if they were alive under the current legislation be granted Canadian citizenship retroactively?

The "OMG is this for real" reading seems to imply that if anyone of your direct ancestors were Canadians, then each of the descendants gets posthumous citizenship in turn, creating a domino effect of citizenship.

On the other hand when I read the link Grey Fox shared, the requirement seems to be at minimum that you are a grandchild of a Canadian citizen and that your Canadian descended parent spent at least 3 years in Canada. It says nothing about posthumous citizenship being granted to dead non-Canadian citizens if they would've qualified under the current law.

Presumbably if your great-great grandparent was a Canadian and had a child (your great grandparent) that spent at least 3 years in Canada, that great-grandparent could become a citizen now. But if they're dead then they are not and have never been a Canadian citizen, they're never going to be able to apply for citizenship or take the oath - so the chain of citizenship eligibility would seem to end there.

Everything I'm reading indicates that as long as your ancestor could have been a Canadian citizen (it does not extend to New France) in 1867 and you can prove it, bill C-3 clause about "lost Canadians" applies.  Unclear:  Ancestry from as far as 1759-1763.

And that's what BanQ in Quebec has been busy since January, digging citizenship & marriage proofs for American citizens who have had ancestors in Quebec in the 19th century.

I provided an article about this, but you have to use your browser translation.  It is not AI, it is real research.


Edit:
found legalese:
https://www.ourcommons.ca/Content/Committee/451/CIMM/Brief/BR13624033/br-external/ChapmanDon-e.pdf


I have an headache.

115 000 new citizens according to PBO, up to 2 000 000 eligible, mostly Americans.

Well, at least we may get a 3rd bridge and some Nordiques fans.

#7

Off the Record / Re: Facebook Follies of Friend...

Last post by Zoupa - February 09, 2026, 08:29:00 PM

The thing is he insists on nitpicking and devil advocating, but does not reciprocate when presented with counterpoints. Feels like talking with a teenager, which is why I've largely stopped.

#8

Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...

Last post by mongers - February 09, 2026, 08:25:59 PM

This is what labour now needs:

#9

Off the Record / Re: Refractory Gauls, or the F...

Last post by Zoupa - February 09, 2026, 08:25:23 PM

Fun fact: he owns a summer home in my parents' village. He's the epitome of the gauche caviar, with all the associated moral corruption (and I guess actual corruption) that entails. This was long overdue.

#10

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by viper37 - February 09, 2026, 08:24:56 PM

Well that Reddit community explains why the AI answered the way it did. Almost every dossier is a 4 generation descendant of the Canadian citizen.

I don't know if it's enough but it's the same situation Valmy find himself in.

Tbf, that's just the summary table.  I did quizz a lot more than that.

Valmy or his children could get the citizenship.

Then whomever gets the citizenship has to stay in Canada 3 years so that their children can get the citizenship.

Valmy gets the citizenship.  He sends his kids to study at UQAM.  They go back to Texas.  They send their kids to study at McGill. They move back to the independent Republic of California. Their children study at UBC because it's the hip thing to do when you want to be in a serious basketball league.  They meet CC's and Zoupa's great grandaughters who have become staple of the New Canadian Liberal Conservative Party opposed to the Republican Bloc.  And so on and so on they're all Canadians.