Quote from: garbon on Today at 04:20:44 AMWhy not? It is a disability that has the propensity to trigger offense, why shouldn't there be a warning on that? It isn't like you fall down a slippery slope if you warn that there is someone who is prone to involuntarily saying the n-word when they see black people that suddenly you have to warn people if someone is using a wheelchair.Fair - my understanding is that basicaly this type of Tourette's is that part of the tic is saying socially unacceptable, taboo, obscene things. And may be part of accommodating and understanding people with that disability is a pre-warning of some sort. You may be right and I take the point on the slippery slope but there feels to me something slightly uncomfortable about warning people about a characteristic about another person that they've no control over. I think it probably is something they should have done, but it feels slightly weird.![]()

QuoteI saw them engaging in the same behaviour again this morning on BBC Breakfast. They mentioned that Dawn Butler was asking for information on BBC on how this happened. They said that a guest at the awards had said something inappropriate while Michael B Jordan and Delroy Lindo were on stage. Maybe I missed it but I didn't even here that is was a racially abusive term and instead they quickly went to a clip of some man talking about how mortifying it must have been for the man with tourette's. No one speaking for how it would feel to be the target of such abuse.Yeah and as I say I think there is a difference between the people running the live event in the room. Alan Cummings maybe didn't quite deal with it perfectly but I think did handle it pretty well (and maybe, as we've said, the warning about someone with this type of Tourette's should have been given before the event). It's a rare example of where I think "sorry for any offence caused" is kind of appropriate.
Feels like, yeah it was bad but he didn't mean it; in fact, think how bad he feels, get over it.
Quote from: Syt on Today at 02:14:19 AMQuote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 01:23:01 AMif we have any young readers present
Unless we have kids from some of our regulars lurking here I find that increasingly unlikely![]()
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 01:23:01 AMThe Labour manifesto also helped the Conservatives. Gerald Kaufman famously called it the "longest suicide note in history" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_longest_suicide_note_in_historyYeah I think that's true. The bit I'd add which is the bit I wonder about is the SDP - and how small parties are able to actually break through or not. In late 1981, the SDP were consistently coming first in the polls and occasionally even polling at 50%. By spring of 1982 (before the Falklands) they're back down to about 30%. I know psephologists have done lots of work and say that the SDP took about equally from Tories and Labour - but that still feels wrong to me so I acknowledge that it's true and also not
Given that it incorporated leaving the EEC (European Economic Community if we have any young readers present) I felt obliged, like many, to vote for a different party despite despising the Conservatives. It had other failings, principally it was too socialist for the country's taste and too isolationist for many socialists.
I suspect a lot of the SDP-curious were basically people on a journey away from Labour in 1983.
QuoteI also think that Reform may have shot their bolt though. Rupert Lowe and his Restore Britain party is outflanking them on the right. As a response, or possibly to keep money flowing in from right-wing American donors, Reform has gone large on anti-immigration policies that show precisely who they are https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/feb/22/reform-uk-ice-style-agency-end-leave-to-remain-zia-yusufI'm not sure how it'll play out.
The possibility of filthy ICE-style thugs patrolling Britain's streets will delight the true believers but maybe give the "we need a change" folks pause for for thought.
QuoteAll these Reform and Restore Britain parties. I wonder if Laurence Llewelyn-Bowen could be persuaded to form a new party, Redecorate Britain, that could somehow weaken Reform's vote even further.Or Restore (the Stuarts):


Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2026, 02:47:23 PMThat's fair. I think it is so difficult. If he wasn't asked to leave then he probably chose to leave halfway through the ceremony where the biopic of his life was being awarded. To me that doesn't feel like he was prioritising himself - although I suppose you could almost see it the other way in that. I think he's said he's "deeply mortified" and you can almost see from the disability perspective that that is the experience of the disease and he left.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2026, 02:47:23 PMTotally agree on the people at the event although I slightly wonder the extent to which they did or should have warned people (particularly hosts) that there's someone with the type of Tourette's where they say taboo, obscene, socially unacceptable things as part of their tic. But then I don't know - I mean it doesn't feel right that you have to warn people there's someone with x disability in advance.
Quote from: Sheilbh on February 23, 2026, 02:47:23 PMOn the other hand the BBC excuse that they just didn't hear it because they were working in a truck is risible.
Quote from: Richard Hakluyt on Today at 01:23:01 AMif we have any young readers present

Quote from: Sophie Scholl on February 23, 2026, 11:59:17 PMIt would be such a powerful message to the world if Fidesz got trounced thoroughly. I'm wondering if maybe they're just putting the effort you mention up as a front while they pillage everything they can access and send it offshore?
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