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#1
Off the Record / Re: The China Thread
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 03:43:50 PMWe'll quickly see how well isolated that ivory tower is at the EU

Time to get down into the gutter with the rest of us.
#2
Off the Record / Re: The China Thread
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:53:53 PM
Europe probably is going to have to spend a ton of money making sure those refugees never make it there. You already see how destabilizing politically refugees have already been on Europe. An Iranian refugee crisis is going to be orders of magnitude larger.
#3
Off the Record / Re: The China Thread
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 03:43:50 PM
Quote from: Sheilbh on Today at 03:24:30 PMI'm with HVC. I think 2 and 3 are basically right and 1 is far too soon to tell (also not sure the US is likely to level Zhongnanhai any time soon).

I'd even say not just about not getting trampled but just shaping events. But Europe is far more exposed on energy than the US or Israel and we've already seen how destabilising the collapse of Syria (population 15 million) was on European politics. If this has an impact on energy or leads to major outflows of refugees from Iran (population 90 million), Europe is going to feel it. But Europe's ability to actually shape that impact is basically reliant on our relations with Turkey and the US.

We'll quickly see how well isolated that ivory tower is at the EU
#4
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 03:41:25 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 03:06:22 PMYeah, we have a close friend who's Persian. Her response was basically "today I'm getting out the Champagne to celebrate that that asshole is dead! Tomorrow I'll worry about what happens next."
a sensible sentiment
#5
Off the Record / Re: The China Thread
Last post by HVC - Today at 03:40:33 PM
I've told you, we Canadians will gladly provide energy for security :P

Just need some seed money.

* edit* you should also ignore the greens on nuclear power. Stupid greens *old man grumbly sounds*
#6
Off the Record / Re: The China Thread
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 03:24:30 PM
I'm with HVC. I think 2 and 3 are basically right and 1 is far too soon to tell (also not sure the US is likely to level Zhongnanhai any time soon).

I'd even say not just about not getting trampled but just shaping events. But Europe is far more exposed on energy than the US or Israel and we've already seen how destabilising the collapse of Syria (population 15 million) was on European politics. If this has an impact on energy or leads to major outflows of refugees from Iran (population 90 million), Europe is going to feel it. But Europe's ability to actually shape that impact is basically reliant on our relations with Turkey and the US.
#7
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Valmy - Today at 03:22:35 PM
Quote from: Duque de Bragança on Today at 03:15:55 PMSeen on TV Iranian refugees celebrating Khamenei's death in Portugal.

Yeah well good for them
#8
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Richard Hakluyt - Today at 03:22:10 PM
It would be fantastic if the end result was a half-decent, or better, regime for Iran. I just feel that is rather unlikely  :(

Well, we will see.
#9
Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 03:15:55 PM
Seen on TV Iranian refugees celebrating Khamenei's death in Portugal.
#10
Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 03:14:58 PM
Can Canada organise the whole World Cup on short notice?  :P

Otherwise, it's Europe or South America again; right now Saudi Arabia is not ready and Qatar is too close to instability for comfort.

I forgot the Far East, as in Japan and Korea. China? :hmm: