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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 03:25:30 PM

Well you did say you could come up with a completely different theory.  I  not sure how without making stuff up.

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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Barrister - Today at 03:19:55 PM

You know, I could come up with an alternate theory of the case that would run very counter to this.

Why don't we wait until the facts come out?

It's so great to have you back. 

Sophie, I'm curious why you respond to me saying

Why don't we wait until the facts come out?

With this emoji:



I offered no particular hypothesis about what happened.

Other than it is a tragedy.

#3

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Baron von Schtinkenbutt - Today at 02:30:36 PM

Last year, Immigration Minister Marc Miller was indirectly quoted by the CBC as indicating the three-year requirement is only a hard requirement going forward:

Miller said his department will offer "discretionary" citizenship grants for affected people who were born or adopted before Dec. 19, 2023 — the date of the original Ontario court ruling.

Potential "lost Canadians" born or adopted after that date who have a citizen parent who has spent at least three cumulative years in Canada are also eligible for citizenship under the interim rules.

The government's own backgrounder also makes a distinction between those born or adopted before and after the date of passage, only attaching the three-year requirement to the latter:

On June 5, 2025, the government introduced Bill C-3, An Act to Amend the Citizenship Act (2025), to extend citizenship by descent beyond the first-generation in a way that is more inclusive and protects the value of Canadian citizenship. The bill received royal assent on November 20, 2025, and came into effect on December 15, 2025. This means that IRCC now recognizes new eligible citizens and is applying the new rules for passing citizenship on going forward. With the coming into effect of this bill

    people who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new law can apply to get proof of Canadian citizenship
    people adopted abroad before December 15, 2025, by a Canadian parent born or adopted abroad can apply for Canadian citizenship for an adopted child
    people born or adopted abroad on or after December 15, 2025, to a Canadian parent also born or adopted abroad must demonstrate that their Canadian parent has spent three years in Canada when applying for proof of Canadian citizenship, or applying for Canadian citizenship for an adopted child
    people born before December 15, 2025, who automatically became Canadian citizens under the new law and were not previously granted citizenship, and who now want to give up (renounce) Canadian citizenship can apply through a simplified renunciation process

The IRCC website also makes this distinction:

If you were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent

If you were born outside of Canada before December 15, 2025, you're likely a Canadian citizen if your parent was also a Canadian citizen when you were born.

If you were born outside of Canada on or after December 15, 2025, to a Canadian parent also born outside of Canada, you're likely a Canadian citizen if

    your parent was also a Canadian citizen when you were born, and
    your Canadian parent spent at least 1,095 days in Canada before you were born

If your parent became a citizen after you were born

You're not automatically a Canadian citizen if your parent was granted Canadian citizenship after you were born.

There is still the question of chaining, as that final bullet from the IRCC site implies there may be limits on that, but all sources are clear to me that the three-year requirement does not apply to those people who are applying that GF has been talking about, as they would (potentially) have qualified before the new bill, and it was the new bill that added the three-year requirement.

Is there something wrong with my interpretation of these statements?  When GF partially quoted this earlier, you said it was saying the same thing as you, but that's not how I read it.

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Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 02:07:08 PM

The people at IRCC seems to have decided that a birth certificate/baptism record is enough when G0 has been dead for a while.

[Olympia]

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Off the Record / Re: The Miscellaneous Sports T...

Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 01:57:21 PM

By the way, IOC holds the

Anyone looking to buy an official IOC 1936 Berlin Olympics t-shirt?

https://shop2.olympics.com/en/olympic-games/mens-natural-1936-berlin-games-olympic-heritage-t-shirt/t-10259387+p-0222349001530+z-7-4279097087?loc=en-GB



The IOC said they're of course aware that those games were used as nazi propaganda, but it's also important to honor the thousands of athletes. Also, there's more content given in the Olympic museum in Lausanne for those interested.

Sold out! 

By the way, the IOC holds the rights for Riefenstahl's Olympia.

Can't get a stand alone version on disc though, you'll have to cough up for the whole olympic box set by Criterion.

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Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 01:49:59 PM

Not saying it's not true, but I does sound a hell of a lot like the caricature of the evil rich person.

Yes. Although worth noting the Italian magistrates are investigating a truck driver - we're talking thousands of dollars in the 1990s. An expensive holiday but not the preserve of the rich (I think it's perhaps similar the everyday sex tourists in South-East Asia?).

But I had a similar sense of incredulity especially when it got to the guy with a skull on his car - then there was a picture of the car.

But with the Balkans and Italian involvement and such an extaordinary story I can't help but think of the highly problematic (but fantastic) writer Curzio Malaparte who was posted as a reporter for Mussolini's Italy in the Balkans and wrote several extraordinary autobiographical books. In one he recalls meeting Ante Pavelic when he was the head of the Ustashi:

While he spoke, I gazed at a wicker basket on [his] desk. The lid was raised and the basket seemed to be filled with mussels, or shelled oysters, as they are occasionally displayed in the windows of Fortnum and Mason in Piccadilly in London. 'Are they Dalmatian oysters?' I asked Pavelic. [He] removed the lid from the basket and revealed the mussels, that slimy and jelly-like mass, and he said, smiling, with that tired good-natured smile of his, 'It is a present from my loyal Ustashi. Forty pounds of human eyes.'

For a long-time his writing was interpreted as a form of reportage, including this section. It's since been established that he entirely made it up - but that it was perhaps a synecdoche for the wider enthusiastic (but not industrial) violence of the Ustashi. Except in the time when it was still considered reportage it was picked up in the Balkans and Malaparte was very widely known for that specific story. It then ends up forming a regularly repeated part of Serbian propaganda.

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Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 01:49:00 PM

Not saying it's not true, but I does sound a hell of a lot like the caricature of the evil rich person.

Strong Count Zaroff vibes actually, with the caveat that even Count Zaroff would give a fighting chance to his victims or prey.

#8

Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...

Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 01:44:38 PM

That doesn't tell me much about how the applicants satisfied the substantial connection test.

I know you for some reason doubt the wording of the legislative amendments themselves, and so here is what the Federal Government website says

Substantial connection
To demonstrate a substantial connection to Canada, the applicant must show that their Canadian parent born or adopted abroad has at least 1,095 days (three years) of cumulative physical presence in Canada before the applicant's birth or adoption.

#9

Off the Record / Re: The EU thread

Last post by Grey Fox - Today at 01:36:39 PM

In late capitalism world where most of the wealth is captured by the very few and hard work does not provide enough to have a good life. Yes.

#10

Off the Record / Re: The Miscellaneous Sports T...

Last post by Norgy - Today at 12:51:44 PM

Norway defeated Germany 2-0 in football and won bronze in 1936. Of course, sore losers that they are, Germany invaded Norway to make sure we could not repeat that in 1940.

Joking aside, that is peak IOC.