Quote from: Grey Fox on Today at 06:33:47 PMLosing the proxies is a giant concession especially towards their Russian ally.
Quote from: DGuller on Today at 08:15:56 PMQuote from: grumbler on Today at 08:05:21 PMWTF, we're not even a third of the way through?Quote from: Syt on Today at 11:12:09 AMQuote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:13:16 AMIt's awarded by a literal Prince of a European Royal House.
The literal language of the provision is disjunctive: "king, prince, or foreign state"
In addition the control of the order and its succession was established by Papal Bull, thus implicating the Vatican, which is a sovereign foreign state.
If anything, I'd almost expect that there'd be backlash about this being a Papist honor, but then again you have a Catholic VP these days
And the US had a Catholic president until 15 months ago.![]()

Quote from: grumbler on Today at 08:05:21 PMWTF, we're not even a third of the way through?Quote from: Syt on Today at 11:12:09 AMQuote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:13:16 AMIt's awarded by a literal Prince of a European Royal House.
The literal language of the provision is disjunctive: "king, prince, or foreign state"
In addition the control of the order and its succession was established by Papal Bull, thus implicating the Vatican, which is a sovereign foreign state.
If anything, I'd almost expect that there'd be backlash about this being a Papist honor, but then again you have a Catholic VP these days
And the US had a Catholic president until 15 months ago.
Quote from: Syt on Today at 11:12:09 AMQuote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 10:13:16 AMIt's awarded by a literal Prince of a European Royal House.
The literal language of the provision is disjunctive: "king, prince, or foreign state"
In addition the control of the order and its succession was established by Papal Bull, thus implicating the Vatican, which is a sovereign foreign state.
If anything, I'd almost expect that there'd be backlash about this being a Papist honor, but then again you have a Catholic VP these days
Quote from: The Minsky Moment on Today at 06:11:13 PMHe's a real keeper. Leading candidate for the 2027 FIFA Peace Prize Award
QuoteIran dismantling its nuclear capabilities;
Iran committing to not pursuing further nuclear weapons;
Iran not enriching any more nuclear material;
All enriched material will be delivered to Saba on a schedule to be determined by the US, Israel and Iran;
The Natanz, Isfahan and Fordow nuclear facilities will be decommissioned;
The Atomic Energy Agency will get access to all nuclear information with regard to Iran's programme;
Iran will abandon its proxy model;
Iran will stop its actual funding and arming of proxies in the region;
The strait of Hormuz will remain open, as a free maritime zone and unblocked in the future;
Iran will limit the number and range of its missiles;
Any further use of its missiles will be for Iranian self-defence only;
All sanctions on Iran will be lifted;
Iran will be assisted in developing a civil nuclear project in Bushehr;
The snapback threat against Iran will be removed,
The US and Israel will assist Iran in promoting and developing a civil nuclear project in Bushehr (electricity generation).
Quote from: Legbiter on Today at 04:37:50 PMWho is going to be the bad boyar whose bad advice mislead the Czar to this defeat? Hegseth should prepare for claiming political asylum in Norway.![]()
Quote from: OttoVonBismarck on Today at 04:16:22 PMApparently Iran is saying Kushner and Witkoff are persona non grata for future negotiations, they view them both as simply perpetuating bad faith negotiations in the past to prepare for the inevitable U.S. attacks. They now say any negotiations must involve J.D. Vance, since he has historically been skeptical of involvement in Middle Eastern wars.
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