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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 12:22:43 PMPeter Thiel, the man behind JD Vance's brain, is holding a lecture series in Rome on the coming of the Antichrist, which he identifies as forces behind efforts to regulate AI.
The above is an actual sentence which describes a true event happening in the world, not a rejected MadLibs fragment or early stage LLM training run output.
The above is an actual sentence which describes a true event happening in the world, not a rejected MadLibs fragment or early stage LLM training run output.
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Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by Zanza - Today at 12:17:34 PMIsrael bombed the biggest Iranian gas field today. Iran threatened retaliation. 
I read an estimate today that the global economic damage from closing the Straits is 14 billion USD per day.
I read an estimate today that the global economic damage from closing the Straits is 14 billion USD per day.
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Off the Record / Re: The EU thread
Last post by Jacob - Today at 11:58:45 AMI don't think Trump understands the concept of collaborating, nor on the implications of a long term collaboration (or the ending of same).
He only understands snapping fingers and having minions scurry to obey, and asserting something to be true with sufficient vehemence for his social spheres (online and physical) to agree that's how it is.
The practicalities and logistics of exerting power in the arctic - and the advantages of collaborating - is so far from that mindset that honestly, I don't think this registers as having much significance to Trump.
He only understands snapping fingers and having minions scurry to obey, and asserting something to be true with sufficient vehemence for his social spheres (online and physical) to agree that's how it is.
The practicalities and logistics of exerting power in the arctic - and the advantages of collaborating - is so far from that mindset that honestly, I don't think this registers as having much significance to Trump.
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Off the Record / Re: The EU thread
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 11:50:46 AMNo one wants to give the bad news to the King . . .
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Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Jacob - Today at 11:49:28 AMThe Moroccan ball-boy behaviour was awful. They in no way deserve to be the champions if they lost at home and exhibited that degree of unsporting behaviour.
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Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Valmy - Today at 11:43:52 AMI disagree with the concept of giving the championship to the runner up if the champion forfeits their title somehow. It should just be vacant. You only win a championship on the field...er...pitch.
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Off the Record / Re: Football (Soccer) Thread
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 10:32:27 AMThe real football news of yesterday evening!
https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20260317-senegal-stripped-of-africa-cup-of-nations-title-morocco-declared-champion-by-caf-appeal-board
Beyond the precedent, that could give ideas to the next summer's tournament in North America, assuming it still takes place, given the venality of Gianni Infantino and Trump's behavior in general.
There was actually an earlier case in Africa involving clubs, in the local Champions' League final, in 2019 with a Tunisian squad being stripped of its title, title given to a Moroccan club.
Solomonic judgement needed to restore the peace? As in no winner for that edition.
https://www.france24.com/en/sport/20260317-senegal-stripped-of-africa-cup-of-nations-title-morocco-declared-champion-by-caf-appeal-board
QuoteSenegal to appeal being stripped of AFCON title, handing 2025 championship to Morocco
SPORT
The Senegalese national football team said they will appeal after they were stripped of their Africa Cup of Nations (AFCON) victory on Tuesday, with Morocco declared the new 2025 champions over a protest walk-off during the final in January. African football authorities said Senegal was "declared to have forfeited the match" by leaving the pitch.
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Senegal say they will appeal after they were sensationally stripped of the Africa Cup of Nations title on Tuesday and the Confederation of African Football (CAF) instead declared Morocco champions, two months after their chaotic final.
Several Senegalese players controversially walked off the pitch in Rabat during the final on January 18 in protest when the hosts were awarded a penalty late in second-half stoppage time.
After Senegal's players eventually returned having been coaxed back onto the pitch by captain Sadio Mane, Morocco missed the penalty and Pape Gueye went on to score the goal in extra time that gave his team a 1-0 victory.
CAF said that having studied Morocco's appeal, "the Senegal national team is declared to have forfeited the match" and the result was "officially recorded as 3-0" in favour of Morocco.
The CAF Appeals Committee justified its decision by applying Articles 82 and 84 of the AFCON Regulations, which state that if a team "refuses to play or leaves the ground before the regular end of the match without the authorisation of the referee, it shall be considered (loser) and shall be eliminated for good from the current competition".
The articles add that the team contravening the regulations "will lose its match by 3-0".
The Royal Moroccan Football Federation (FRMF) said in a statement its appeal "was never intended to contest the sporting performance of the teams participating in this competition, but solely to request the application of the competition regulations".
"The Federation reaffirms its commitment to respecting the rules, to the clarity of the competitive framework, and to the stability of African competitions," the statement added.
Senegal's football authorities said they will appeal "as soon as possible" to the Court of Arbitration for Sport.
"The Senegalese Football Federation condemns this unjust, unprecedented and unacceptable decision, which brings African football into disrepute," it said in a statement.
Chaotic scenes
Minutes before the end of the match, some Senegalese supporters attempted a pitch invasion, while Senegal's players halted the game for nearly 20 minutes to protest the late penalty awarded to Morocco.
The controversial spot-kick was awarded by Congolese referee Jean-Jacques Ndala right at the end of the allotted eight added minutes in normal time following a VAR check for a challenge on Brahim Diaz by El Hadji Malick Diouf.
The game was goalless at the time and Diaz could have won the trophy for Morocco with the spot-kick in the 24th minute of added time at the end of normal time.
But Senegal goalkeeper Edouard Mendy easily saved the weak attempted 'Panenka' chip by the Real Madrid winger, who was clearly distracted by the long delay that followed the penalty award.
The game at the Prince Moulay Abdellah Stadium then went to extra time, and Gueye's brilliant 94th-minute strike won it for Senegal.
Several of the team's players posted on social media after the announcement that they had been stripped of the title.
Defender Moussa Niakhate, who plays for French club Lyon, posted a picture of himself lifting the Africa Cup of Nations trophy with a message that said "they're mad", in an apparent reference to CAF.
In the immediate aftermath of the final, FIFA president Gianni Infantino had condemned "some Senegal players" for the "unacceptable scenes".
"It is unacceptable to leave the field of play in this manner, and equally, violence cannot be tolerated in our sport, it is simply not right," Infantino, who attended the match, said.
In late January, CAF imposed a series of disciplinary sanctions, including fines amounting to several hundred thousand euros, on the federations of both countries for unsportsmanlike conduct and violations of fair play principles.
The appeal trial of 18 Senegalese supporters, imprisoned since the final and sentenced to prison terms ranging from three months to one year for "hooliganism", which was scheduled to take place on Monday, has been postponed until March 30.
(FRANCE 24 with AFP)
Beyond the precedent, that could give ideas to the next summer's tournament in North America, assuming it still takes place, given the venality of Gianni Infantino and Trump's behavior in general.
There was actually an earlier case in Africa involving clubs, in the local Champions' League final, in 2019 with a Tunisian squad being stripped of its title, title given to a Moroccan club.
Solomonic judgement needed to restore the peace? As in no winner for that edition.
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Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Norgy - Today at 10:19:37 AMAnyone brave enough to look at the methodology?
#9
Off the Record / Re: Cuba vs Trump
Last post by Baron von Schtinkenbutt - Today at 10:09:23 AMNo, sanctions against Cuba are not justified at all. They're the product of rabid, irrational anti-Communism. My point, though, was about effect (and how some people labeled that effect), not justification.
There were (and are) many who consider the Iraq sanctions a crime against humanity as well. For those who believe that, justification is irrelevant because crimes against humanity are never justified. Several consecutive American administrations have believed this wasn't the case. This dovetails into my other point that no US administration is ever going to submit to non-US judgement on "war crimes" or "crimes against humanity" without being forced to at gunpoint.
Personally, I think the Iraq sanctions were overly harsh, but not a crime. It was a difficult situation where there were limited options to deal with a recalcitrant government. This blockade (even if the Trump regime refuses to call it that), though, does rise to that level. I really hope some Democrats will grow a spine and call it that openly, but I'm not holding my breath. That said, I still don't think anybody is going to The Hague over this.
There were (and are) many who consider the Iraq sanctions a crime against humanity as well. For those who believe that, justification is irrelevant because crimes against humanity are never justified. Several consecutive American administrations have believed this wasn't the case. This dovetails into my other point that no US administration is ever going to submit to non-US judgement on "war crimes" or "crimes against humanity" without being forced to at gunpoint.
Personally, I think the Iraq sanctions were overly harsh, but not a crime. It was a difficult situation where there were limited options to deal with a recalcitrant government. This blockade (even if the Trump regime refuses to call it that), though, does rise to that level. I really hope some Democrats will grow a spine and call it that openly, but I'm not holding my breath. That said, I still don't think anybody is going to The Hague over this.
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Off the Record / Re: Iran War?
Last post by The Minsky Moment - Today at 10:01:45 AMI always knew Obama was impressive, but starting a major international war at age 17 has got to make him the GOAT.
George Washington didn't manage to pull that off until he was 22.
George Washington didn't manage to pull that off until he was 22.