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Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Tonitrus - Today at 09:02:51 PMFollowing on all up-and-down rumors of Chechen vassal Kadyrov being near death all the time...his eldest son was apparently recently nearly killed in a car accident, and is in Moscow in critical condition.
#2
Off the Record / Re: TV/Movies Megathread
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:23:29 PMSpeaking to a friend about it and I am embarrassingly hyped for Wuthering Heights 
Although I absolutely loved the Andrea Arnold adaptation which is the bar for me.
It's also one of those books I read at like 17 and was like "this is what love is!" and then I read it in my 30s and was like "these people are unhinged", so I might read it again before the film. (I have this with Jane Austen too - she is the only author I regularly re-read and part of it is just because the characters/perspectives I sympathise with change every single time.)
Although I absolutely loved the Andrea Arnold adaptation which is the bar for me.
It's also one of those books I read at like 17 and was like "this is what love is!" and then I read it in my 30s and was like "these people are unhinged", so I might read it again before the film. (I have this with Jane Austen too - she is the only author I regularly re-read and part of it is just because the characters/perspectives I sympathise with change every single time.)
#3
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 07:12:56 PMit's things like this that can and do sour the trump-aligned parties in europe on trump.
Cause they now have to chose: lick trumps boots and look like patsies, or be patriotric and defend the veterans/honour of the nation.
push 'em in such a situation enough times and even there support will start to vaporise
Cause they now have to chose: lick trumps boots and look like patsies, or be patriotric and defend the veterans/honour of the nation.
push 'em in such a situation enough times and even there support will start to vaporise
#4
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:03:00 PMI don't agree. While I think we are sentimentalising veterans in an unhelpful way in this country, in the UK and I suspect every other NATO country his line will have been interpreted as an attack on our veterans and our dead. I think this is the emotional side of the "death of NATO".
Article 5 was used because of an attack on America. In the subsequent war in Afghanistan, Denmark, Estonia, the UK and Canada all suffered more losses per capita than the US. My own view to Trump questioning the commitment of allies is, to nick a phrase from the Vice-President, "have you said thank you once?"
I don't think this is Trump living rent free in our heads, I think it's is like a British PM going to Arlington Cemetery or the Arc de Triomphe and asking if the Americans or French have ever really done anything for our alliance.
I would also say for all the gags about Farage or the slightly more pro-Trump view among Reform voters - this is the sort of thing that really cuts through with the patriotic, "our boys" kind of person who may, in other respects, be a bit more sympathetic to Trump.
Edit: And I'd add - I have family who are veterans - my social media after the Zelensky ambush in the White House and again today has been clogged with them re-sharing images of coffins coming through Wootton Bassett with a union jack on them and people quoting that "have you said thank you once?" line. I think this is the sort of thing that is actually vastly more toxic for Trump and America's brand in the rest of the world than, say, ICE.
Edit: Just as an addition on the veteran point - I'm not sure about Canada and Estonia (but given their casualties I suspect true for them ) - but with veterans the idea of British and Danish forces being behind the safety of the front-lines is also insulting. They were in Helmand province which was a Taliban stronghold - and why their casualty figures are so high. Both Denmark and the UK (and I assume Canada and Estonia) were deployed to areas with some of the most intensive fighting in Afghanistan and the US President is now basically saying they were in the Green Zone by the pool.
Article 5 was used because of an attack on America. In the subsequent war in Afghanistan, Denmark, Estonia, the UK and Canada all suffered more losses per capita than the US. My own view to Trump questioning the commitment of allies is, to nick a phrase from the Vice-President, "have you said thank you once?"
I don't think this is Trump living rent free in our heads, I think it's is like a British PM going to Arlington Cemetery or the Arc de Triomphe and asking if the Americans or French have ever really done anything for our alliance.
I would also say for all the gags about Farage or the slightly more pro-Trump view among Reform voters - this is the sort of thing that really cuts through with the patriotic, "our boys" kind of person who may, in other respects, be a bit more sympathetic to Trump.
Edit: And I'd add - I have family who are veterans - my social media after the Zelensky ambush in the White House and again today has been clogged with them re-sharing images of coffins coming through Wootton Bassett with a union jack on them and people quoting that "have you said thank you once?" line. I think this is the sort of thing that is actually vastly more toxic for Trump and America's brand in the rest of the world than, say, ICE.
Edit: Just as an addition on the veteran point - I'm not sure about Canada and Estonia (but given their casualties I suspect true for them ) - but with veterans the idea of British and Danish forces being behind the safety of the front-lines is also insulting. They were in Helmand province which was a Taliban stronghold - and why their casualty figures are so high. Both Denmark and the UK (and I assume Canada and Estonia) were deployed to areas with some of the most intensive fighting in Afghanistan and the US President is now basically saying they were in the Green Zone by the pool.
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Gaming HQ / Re: PSA: Game Discounts
Last post by Sophie Scholl - Today at 06:08:17 PMSid Meier/Civ collection on Humble Bundle including 40% off coupons for Civ VII:
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#6
Off the Record / Re: US - Greenland Crisis Thre...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 06:05:48 PMTwo month old video on the US vs the rest of NATO invading Greenland
I thought it pretty interesting:
I thought it pretty interesting:
#7
Off the Record / Re: Brexit and the waning days...
Last post by garbon - Today at 05:43:42 PMWhy did British media spend the whole day discussing Trump's line on national and Afghanistan? Why did we need a televised clip from Starmer on it? I get when it is something serious like Greenland debacle but with this...like we want him to live rent free in our heads all of the time.
#8
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Oexmelin - Today at 04:58:24 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on Today at 04:41:00 PMQuote from: Oexmelin on Today at 02:52:18 PMQuote from: crazy canuck on Today at 02:44:16 PMYou have picked a bad example. The concept of the Honour of the Crown which has been developed in a long line of Supreme Court of Canada cases is premised on promises the Crown made to First Nations in order to obtain their cooperation and friendship.
Yes, and framing it as if that was the big push that made the relations between Canada and First Nations a harmonious whole would somehow gloss over residential schools.
I think you missed my point entirely
Or rather, perhaps you could address my point?
If you feel I am missing it, then it's quite probable I am missing it. I don't see the relevance of your point.
#9
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Oexmelin - Today at 04:57:06 PMQuote from: Jacob on Today at 04:44:11 PMI think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.
On a historical note: much of the identity of "British", forged in the 18th century, was indeed aimed at coopting Scots into English imperial ventures. The conquest of Canada - which involved a number of Highland regiments - was part of the process.
On a contemporary note: similarly, what francophone Québec needs to come to term with, is the participation of French Canada, or French Canadians, at least, in the Canadian imperial ventures, notably against First Nations.
#10
Off the Record / Re: [Canada] Canadian Politics...
Last post by Jacob - Today at 04:44:11 PMQuote from: Grey Fox on Today at 04:10:51 PMI would not have the Prime Minister of Canada ever do a speech on the Plaines or any other place where a battle happened between French/Francophones and British/ Anglophones.
Okay, that's a nice clear cut line that's easy to understand. Thanks
QuoteOn erasing the Scots contribution. Back then Francophones were Canadiens and the Anglos call themselves English. I never seen it described otherwise. Oex, have you?
I think it's less about Canada and more about how modern day Scots often like to cast themselves as a oppressed colonial victims of British oppression (like Ireland or Quebec, for example) when the Scots were fairly vigorous participants in the British imperial enterprise not only in terms of leadership, but also in terms of the rank and file participation and of economic benefits.