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Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by viper37 - Today at 09:39:52 PM

If it wasn't a brutal terror regime, I'd kinda like them just for the stuff they post online.

Likely the reason OpenAI is pulling the plug on Sora.

#2

Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 07:40:57 PM

burgers voted for this.

I'm so sick of burgers appointing the dregs.

They should and must be ruled by cosmopolitan men who speak 4 languages, inherited wealth and are much smarter than me.



Rested, ready, tanned.

#3

Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...

Last post by Sheilbh - Today at 07:21:04 PM

There is also some sort of modernisation programme going on; a tilt towards unmanned vessels, drones etc etc. I'm mainly aware of this from a speech by the head of the RN https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news/2025/september/11/20250911-first-sea-lord-outlines-future-of-the-royal-navy-at-dsei , it sounds promising, but part of his job is to maintain morale in the service of course.

I agree - and the frigate gap will end in a few years when the new ships are finally commissioned.

But I think this is sort of indicative of my urgency on European defence and spending. This isn't Starmer's fault or even the last few governments' faults. It goes back to Strategic Defence Reviews in the 2000s and Brown basically forcing the MoD to fund either Iraq and Afghanistan or what they said they needed in the SDR, so cutting the number of ships they "required" in half. The coalition further salami slice it, but do commit to the new frigaates - but it's pushed back (I suspect to move capital expenditure out of a budget cycle for the purpose of Treasury rules).

The ships, proposed in the 2000s, finally committed to 15 years ago won't be ready for another four years. And that story of underinvestment, salami slicing, delaying commitments is endemic in European defence and it will take time to recover even when the spending is there.

I see.

Yeah I wish it was just political will. But I think right now the Royal Navy consists of under 20 ships (aside from support vessels), of which somewhere around or more than 15 are undergoing maintenance or re-fits. There is a very real constraint as well as political will and a legalist attitude

#4

Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by Zanza - Today at 06:59:03 PM

Mar 3: "We won the war."
Mar 7: "We defeated Iran."
Mar 9: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 9: "The war is ending almost completely, and very beautifully."
Mar 11: "We must attack Iran."
Mar 12: "We did win, but we haven't won completely yet."
Mar 13: "We won the war."
Mar 14: "Please help us."
Mar 15: "If you don't help us, I will certainly remember it."
Mar 16: "Actually, we don't need any help at all."
Mar 16: "I was just testing to see who's listening to me."
Mar 16: "If NATO doesn't help, they will suffer something very bad."
Mar 17: "We neither need nor want NATO's help."
Mar 17: "I don't need Congressional approval to withdraw from NATO."
Mar 18: "Our allies must cooperate in reopening the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 19: "US allies need to get a grip - step up and help open the Strait of Hormuz."
Mar 20: "NATO are cowards."
Mar 21: "The Strait of Hormuz must be protected by the countries that use it. We don't use it, we don't need to open it."
Mar 22: "This is the last time. I will give Iran 48 hours. Open the strait"
Mar 22: "Iran is Dead"
Mar 23: "We had very good and productive talks with Iran."
Mar 24: "They gave us a present, and the present arrived today, and it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money."
Mar 25: No major quote
Mar 26: "Make a deal, or we'll just keep blowing them away."
Mar 27: "We don't have to be there for NATO."
Mar 28: No major quote
Mar 29: Claimed talks were progressing
Mar 30: "Open the Strait of Hormuz immediately, or face devastating consequences."
Mar 31: Claimed a deal was "very close" and that Iran would "do the right thing"
Apr 1: "We'll see what happens very soon."
Apr 2: Repeated that a deal was likely, while warning of continued strikes if not
Apr 3: "Something big is going to happen."
Apr 4: Said Iran must comply "immediately" or face further consequences
Apr 5: "Open the fuckin' Strait, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah."

#5

Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 05:58:30 PM

I think he must be Sunni....it explains why he is so pissed off with Iran.

That explains it. Alhamdulillah!!!

P.S. Next Tuesday you die!

#6

Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 05:23:14 PM

There's things the burgers can do extremely well. One of them is saving their own downed airmen in the middle of Iran.  Imagine being a russian aviator "wait, you guys get rescued". 

#7

Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by Tamas - Today at 05:15:05 PM

Donald Trump said "I don't want to talk about that" when asked about targeting civilian infrastructure in Iran, and threatened that the "whole country" would be "gone" if it doesn't accept a deal.

In an interview with ABC's Rachel Scott:, reportedly Trump said: "Well, I don't want to talk about that. But the civilians want me to do it. Okay, the civilians, you know, when they're most unhappy, when they don't hear bombs going off because they're living in hell."

When asked if he would move back his deadline for Iran, he said "I don't want to talk about it, they have plenty of time to make a deal. If they don't want to make a deal — their whole country is gone," he said.

#8

Off the Record / Re: Hungarian Politics

Last post by Tamas - Today at 04:31:02 PM

Same sort of thing said here:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj60x206dx1o

On 2 April, Hungarian security expert Andras Racz warned on Facebook that a "fake attack" on the TurkStream pipeline could be staged inside Serbia.

Racz also predicted that the explosives would be identified as Ukrainian, allowing Orban to once again point the finger of blame at Kyiv.

"We had some solid preliminary information about this operation, including details about the place and possible timing," former senior Hungarian counter-intelligence officer, Peter Buda, told the BBC

Toss up between chutzpah and stupid to have a false-flag op exposed, then run with it anyway...like something the Russians would do.

Yeah I meant Rácz

#9

Off the Record / Re: Hungarian Politics

Last post by Legbiter - Today at 04:18:51 PM

But, whatever. I have given up on the country itself, all I want it to be is a western-aligned feudal shithole, instead of a Russia-oriented one.

My only hope is that russian semen is not an essential micronutrient for him like it is with Orban.

#10

Off the Record / Re: Iran War

Last post by PRC - Today at 03:44:15 PM

"Praise be to Allah!" sayeth Donald Trump on Easter Day.  It really is astounding.