QuoteRUSSIA'S ARTILLERY PROBLEM
In the past three months Russia has lost almost 3,000 artillery pieces. Russians are moaning about the lack of artillery support. It isn't just about ammunition.
The issues now are threefold. Physical complete loss by drone or artillery is one. Lack of ammo is indeed another. It's not so much quantity of ammo not being available, but not being able to have it supplied due to interdiction.
The last is possibly even more significant. They have run out of barrels for their guns.
Barrels have a calculated lifespan based on rounds fired. The speed at which those rounds are fired is also critically important because the heat generated increases wear - especially on rifled barrels which the Russians do have. It was one of the reasons that newer versions of western tanks went to smooth bore, along with the multiple variations in shell types that could be used.
Russian forces and to be fair Ukrainians too, have became highly inclined to fire far to much far to quickly. I've seen with my own eyes a PzH2000 in use and the Germans (don't be surprised they have so many rules!) recommend only firing it six times on one fast burst every 20 minutes to let the barrel cool. That's not what the Ukrainians do! They bang out multiple
6 shell barrages as fast as they can until they can't any more.
The Russians do the same and the result is firstly increasing inaccurate fire as the barrel droops (yes they start to drop - even a fraction of a millimetre magnified over distance turns to meters). If they keep going, eventually the barrel will burst.
You can't fix a barrel. All you can do is melt it down and recast it as a new one.
Russia is suffering a chronic lack of barrels. They've apparently lost the capability to mass produce them - it's a heavy industry practice and requires a lot of space, metallurgical expertise and precision engineering. They just don't have enough of that capacity to produce them at a major industrial level. Production is said to be as low as 2 per week.
To get around this they have ransacked their reserves and stored stock- some of it over 50 years old. The only requirement is that it's got at least 50% of its life left, approximately.
Well now it seems they've used them up too and there's nothing viable left.
The result is that there is a massive retraction in available artillery pieces. What they have they can't service and that's if it survives Ukrainian drone and counter battery fire.
If there is anything Russia needs more from North Korea, it's new field artillery.
So the fact that the war has gone on so long - three days remember and it was all meant to be over, nobody ever imagined these problems would crop up.
It's also been a problem
for Ukraine in terms of wear but a concerted effort to produce barrels has been underway since
it was identified back last year. The west realised it would be an issue and had no reserves to call on, so new was the only choice. They're not mass produced in quite the numbers you'd call ideal by any one manufacturer, but several working together have managed to sustain supply - just. That may not be so if the Slovakian elections return the pro-Russian party to power this weekend, and Slovakia cuts off aid to Ukraine.
In conclusion it's a problem for both sides. But it's a seriously bad one for Russia because its whole military philosophy is based on the massive use of heavy artillery.
Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦!
Quote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2023, 06:56:16 PMQuote from: Josquius on September 30, 2023, 05:41:45 PMQuote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2023, 05:00:24 PMI think that's it for the counteroffensive. Lines haven't moved really and russia is doing increased air strikes all over the advance which has effectively broken the momentum.
Either there's an unlikely collapse of russian morale, or we'll have to wait for F-16 or front line air defense to have any movement of the lines.
Source on this?
I've heard the opposite. Ukraine is showing signs of breaking through and the Russian air force is staying quiet, afraid of Ukrainian anti air.
Also Russia is fast running out of artillery y barrels.
Time will tell
https://map.ukrdailyupdate.com/
IMO this is the best map out there. Look at the number of red dots compared to blue. Pay attention to the air strikes. You can also go back to the beginning of june and see how little terrain has changed. There is certainly no breakthrough in depth. Ukraine has attrited russian artillery, but it's nowhere near enough. No western country is scaling their artillery ammunition or mortar rounds to a scale that Ukraine needs.
This was all very avoidable if the west had been quicker.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2023, 08:57:30 PMYou can zoom out and make the russian fortification lines appear in the layers options, top right corner.
Ukraine is nowhere near the last line. They've barely passed the 1st, and in very narrow sections only.
Quote from: Zoupa on September 30, 2023, 06:56:16 PMhttps://map.ukrdailyupdate.com/
IMO this is the best map out there. Look at the number of red dots compared to blue. Pay attention to the air strikes. You can also go back to the beginning of june and see how little terrain has changed. There is certainly no breakthrough in depth. Ukraine has attrited russian artillery, but it's nowhere near enough. No western country is scaling their artillery ammunition or mortar rounds to a scale that Ukraine needs.
This was all very avoidable if the west had been quicker.
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