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#1
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Zoupa - Today at 05:57:23 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 05:08:24 AMI haven't seen one post where Raz states he's concerned about Palestinian collateral damage. I'm happy to be proven wrong if such posts exist.

We have a number of posters who don't participate at all in this thread.  Can we conclude from this that they are wholly unconcerned about Palestinian and Israeli civilian deaths?

Have you ever posted your concern about Israeli deaths or hostages?

Answer to your first question: I don't know, data is insufficient.

Answer to your second question: I don't know if I've posted about it, it's been almost two years and I can't recall. Oct 7th were some brutal images and whoever participated should be hunted to the ends of the earth, including the mobs that formed in Gaza proper when they brought the hostages.

I maintain that the IDF's methods are barbaric and counterproductive.
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Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 05:48:59 PM
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#3
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by DGuller - Today at 05:00:42 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on Today at 04:55:21 PMWe have a number of posters who don't participate at all in this thread.
Their loss.
#4
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 04:55:21 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 05:08:24 AMI haven't seen one post where Raz states he's concerned about Palestinian collateral damage. I'm happy to be proven wrong if such posts exist.

We have a number of posters who don't participate at all in this thread.  Can we conclude from this that they are wholly unconcerned about Palestinian and Israeli civilian deaths?

Have you ever posted your concern about Israeli deaths or hostages?
#5
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Razgovory - Today at 04:54:47 PM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 01:59:46 PM
Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 10:52:24 AM
Quote from: Zoupa on Today at 05:45:37 AMMore whataboutism. So no posts where you lament collateral damage to Palestinians from you then.

As I said previously, you are wholly unconcerned with civilian collateral victims as long as it's the IDF doing it.

Quote from: Razgovory on Today at 05:15:52 AMThe sympathy for Palestine is based on the antipathy people have for the guys fighting them.

Speaking for myself, I don't have "sympathy for Palestine"; I simply find the IDF's methods to be horrible and ineffective. Do you really think that Hamas can be defeated this way? The IDF is creating tomorrow's Hamas recruits by making a zillion people homeless, orphans etc. It's dumb.


Incorrect.  I have as much concern as for civilian casualties in Palestine as I did for Syrian and Iraqi casualties during the war against ISIS.  Can you say the same?

Yes. Although in your case, you are technically correct: zero concern = zero concern = zero concern.
And your concern varies on a race by race basis.
#6
Off the Record / Re: Life on the Rails
Last post by Josquius - Today at 04:51:29 PM
I've heard about that station before. Didn't know about the renovation though. Good news.

Reminds me a lot of the Romanian parliament 
#7
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 04:03:06 PM
The largest demonstrations we ever had in Vancouver, over many years, was the anti-nuclear protest movement.  Tens of thousands of people would participate in an annual march to protest nuclear weapons. There was no significant support for nuclear weapons in Vancouver, or Canada.
#8
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - Today at 03:38:39 PM
Quote from: Jacob on Today at 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: Admiral Yi on July 17, 2025, 03:42:02 PMYeah, Jake's thing was one and done.  You may have a point.

Could you clarify the point you're using me to make? I don't quite follow.

I'm agreeing with Hillary's point, that protestors protest when there is opposition to their position.  You attended a pro Ukraine protest, but as there isn't any significant support for Russia in Canada, it's not an on going thing.
#9
Off the Record / Re: Life on the Rails
Last post by crazy canuck - Today at 03:32:51 PM
Wow, that is beautiful
#10
Off the Record / Re: Life on the Rails
Last post by Savonarola - Today at 03:00:38 PM
I was back in Detroit in early July.  My wife and I went to see Michigan Central Station (which I thought was funny - going to a train station on my vacation.  It's sort of like how in the end of the Iliad the Greeks hold funerary games for Patroclus in which they throw spears and race around in chariots, the same thing they do on their office days.)  In any event Michigan Central Station had long been a symbol of the city's ruin:



The guy who owned it (slumlord extraordinaire Matty Moruoun) put almost no money into securing the facility so it became a haven for urban spelunkers, scrappers, graffiti artists and vagrants.  There was so little risk of getting caught that there were groups who held paintball tournaments in it.  Bill Ford bought the building a few years ago and has spent probably around a billion dollars restoring it.  Today the upper levels are office space for Ford's EV division and Google has some offices there as well.  The main floor is restored to what it had been when Vanderbilts opened it in the Gilded Age:



(In true Detroit fashion they built only a minimal amount of additional parking, so the streets are now jam-packed.)

The interior is opulent:



A lot had to be replaced; not only was a lot of stuff stolen or broken, but the harsh Michigan winters ate away at the structure (especially the lime stone pillars.)  The tour focused a lot on the restoration; they foundation worked with the local art college (Center for Creative Studies) to remove the paint, identify the graffiti and determine if it was worth preserving or not (as they could identify the artists - and not just the ones who still taught there ;).)  They did keep one of the halls still covered with graffiti, I thought that was kind of cool.