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Off the Record / Re: STAR TREK
Last post by Josephus - Today at 05:42:34 AM
Is it?
#2
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Syt - Today at 03:42:37 AM
Yes, but:

QuoteThe first American edition was published in 1922 by Thomas Seltzer and illustrated by Homer Boss. The latter's wife Adele Szold-Seltzer (1876-1940), the daughter of Benjamin Szold and younger sister of Henrietta Szold, was the translator.

QuoteHenrietta Szold (/zoʊld/ ZOHLD, Hungarian: [ˈsold]; December 21, 1860 – February 13, 1945) was an American-born Jewish Zionist leader and founder of Hadassah, the Women's Zionist Organization of America. In 1942, she co-founded Ihud, a political party in Mandatory Palestine dedicated to a binational solution.

I can tell you, nobody knows the books anymore, but everyone knows the TV show.

And as said in your quote:

QuoteAfter World War II, adaptations toned down the militarist element considerably, reduced the hornets' role. The 1975 anime added the character of Willy, a lazy and quite un-warlike drone bee. In the cartoon series, the briskly marching, but ridiculously incompetent ant armies provide a parody of militarism.

So unless you aim to read the original stories to your kid and extol the virtues of a tightly organized state under military control, you should be fine. :P
#3
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Josquius - Today at 03:28:51 AM
Quote from: Syt on Today at 12:40:16 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 15, 2024, 02:46:06 PMAnyone ever encountered Maya the bee before?
I've never heard of it. Seems big in some countries.
The boy has become a fan.
I checked the Wikipedia page.
On ramp to nazism?

The 1975 cartoon (commissioned by German TV in Japan) was huge when I was little. Looking at the German/English wiki pages for it, I don't see any problematic stuff there (it's based on 1910s childrens books).


QuoteSulevi Riukulehto suggested that the book may have carried a political message. This view depicts the beehive as a well-organised militarist society and Maya as an ideal citizen. Elements of nationalism also appear when Maya gets angry at a grasshopper for failing to distinguish between bees and wasps (whom she calls "a useless gang of bandits" [Räubergeschlecht] that have no "home or faith" [Heimat und Glauben]) and at a insulting fly, whom Maya threatens to teach "respect for bees" and with her stinger. Riukulehto interprets this to mean that respect is based on the threat of violence. Collectivism versus individualism is also a theme. Maya's independence and departure from the beehive is seen as reproachable, but it is atoned by her warning of the hornets' attack. This show of loyalty restores her position in the society. In the hornet attack part of the story, the bees' will to defend the hive and the heroic deaths of bee officers are glorified, often in overtly militarist tones.[9]

After World War II, adaptations toned down the militarist element considerably, reduced the hornets' role. The 1975 anime added the character of Willy, a lazy and quite un-warlike drone bee. In the cartoon series, the briskly marching, but ridiculously incompetent ant armies provide a parody of militarism.

and the author

QuoteBonsels was an outspoken antisemite and expressed his approval of Nazi politics against Jews in 1933, calling the Jew "a deadly enemy" who was "poisoning the culture" in an article (NSDAP und Judentum) which was widely published.[2]

#4
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Tamas - Today at 03:25:08 AM
I remember it from Hungarian TV but by the time it got there I was way too old for it.
#5
Off the Record / Re: Climate Change/Mass Extinc...
Last post by Josquius - Today at 03:16:23 AM
Would vertical panels be worth the bother?
#6
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Josquius - Today at 03:14:24 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on Today at 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 13, 2024, 01:53:21 PMI don't find it funny as this kind of disconnect with reality you're showing is sadly all too common and the far right pushing it as part of their path to power is sadly as old as the hills.
I can say, and will say, the eact same words but for you and the extreme left.

I do think Jacob's question of what on earth you mean by  the far left and what establishment they control is valid here.

As I just can't see where the far left these days even pass the bar for being particularly influential never mind controlling institutions (a word which by its very meaning carries right wing vibes).
#7
Off the Record / Re: The Bitcoin Thread
Last post by Tamas - Today at 02:55:30 AM
Except these are not shares they may never get back to their former value.
#8
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Duque de Bragança - Today at 01:32:19 AM
Quote from: celedhring on April 15, 2024, 05:26:35 PMVery popular in Spain in the 1970s-80s

Same in France. Later '70s I'd say.
#10
Off the Record / Re: Russo-Ukrainian War 2014-2...
Last post by Crazy_Ivan80 - Today at 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 13, 2024, 01:53:21 PM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 13, 2024, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 13, 2024, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 13, 2024, 11:14:53 AM
Quote from: Tamas on April 13, 2024, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: Crazy_Ivan80 on April 13, 2024, 04:37:08 AM
Quote from: Josquius on April 12, 2024, 03:38:50 PMThe far left though are mostly just a bunch of guys in a pub shouting at each other for being liberals.

The far right are an actual threat.

Not really. The far left is equally dangerous

If they had the far-right's popularity at the moment they would be. But it is dishonest to pretend that they do.
They're far more embedded in the institutions though. Places where popularity with voters matters less but the damage that can be done is real enough

Thats the complete opposite of the truth. It's the far right who have all the big dodgy establishment links.
The far left are outsiders. Proudly so. Ideological purity demands it.

Long time since I laughed so hard. You're in complete denial of reality.

I don't find it funny as this kind of disconnect with reality you're showing is sadly all too common and the far right pushing it as part of their path to power is sadly as old as the hills.
I can say, and will say, the eact same words but for you and the extreme left.