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#91
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Admiral Yi - July 17, 2025, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: HVC on July 17, 2025, 03:09:21 PMThat's true, but I also think it's tied to how many in a Society defend an action. No one, or at least not in appreachable numbers, defends China or Saudi Arabia's actions, but there a significant number of people who defend Israel's.

If enough people go "oh that's fine" or even "that's a good thing" then theres an impetus to protest that view. You don't protest against views share your outlook.

Our very own Jake attended a protest about Ukraine.  That somewhat invalidates your point.
#92
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by HVC - July 17, 2025, 03:09:21 PM
Quote from: garbon on July 17, 2025, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2025, 02:12:53 PMI've never understood the argument that, because people don't protest against, say Syrian attacks on civilians, that they are evil when they protest against, say, Israeli attacks on civilians. That's pure bullshit whataboutism, designed to distract from the real issue. The fact that one set of actions is indefensible doesn't at all relate to the fact that another set of actions is indefensible.

People demonstrate when they think that their demonstrations might make a difference. You don't see mass demonstrations against cancer, even though it kills more civilians than Israel, Syria, and Saudi Arabia combined.

I wouldn't undersestimate the factor of people protesting against things that are en vogue to protest about. I think western governments could certaing by their own civilians to take firmer stances on China (Uighurs), Saudi Arabia, even say starvation and homelessness in their own countries. But those aren't causes that draw as much attention as something emotive like Israel-Palestine. Those other items also don't draw as many clicks as say articles and photographs of Gazan anguish.

That's true, but I also think it's tied to how many in a Society defend an action. No one, or at least not in appreachable numbers, defends China or Saudi Arabia's actions, but there a significant number of people who defend Israel's.

If enough people go "oh that's fine" or even "that's a good thing" then theres an impetus to protest that view. You don't protest against views share your outlook.
#93
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by DGuller - July 17, 2025, 03:05:33 PM
Quote from: grumbler on July 17, 2025, 02:12:53 PMI've never understood the argument that, because people don't protest against, say Syrian attacks on civilians, that they are evil when they protest against, say, Israeli attacks on civilians. That's pure bullshit whataboutism, designed to distract from the real issue. The fact that one set of actions is indefensible doesn't at all relate to the fact that another set of actions is indefensible.

People demonstrate when they think that their demonstrations might make a difference. You don't see mass demonstrations against cancer, even though it kills more civilians than Israel, Syria, and Saudi Arabia combined.
The issue with selective protesting is the same as with selective law enforcement.  It raises questions as to whether the law is being enforced out of principle, or because it is a convenient tool to achieve an unrelated end.  It's not always whataboutism to dig into why things are done selectively.
#94
Off the Record / Re: Hungarian Politics
Last post by Valmy - July 17, 2025, 02:48:24 PM
I just have a hard time believing that in the middle of an existential war against Russia, an anti-Hungarian mob is going to form and start committing ethnic cleansing just because the Hungarian government is mad about this one guy dying.

But it is Eastern Europe, their ways are foreign to me.
#95
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by HVC - July 17, 2025, 02:40:54 PM
:yes: Back hugs and shame is for everyone, not just affair partners
#96
Off the Record / Re: General issues
Last post by HVC - July 17, 2025, 02:39:57 PM
Quote from: Syt on July 17, 2025, 12:29:46 AM
Quote from: Baron von Schtinkenbutt on July 01, 2025, 12:28:08 PMWell, it's not going to be so simple.  The database schema doesn't have a proper foreign key setup, so I need to manually identify every table that references topic IDs and edit those columns as well. :rolleyes:

Surely you can let AI do that? - Every manager, currently.

Alternatively: "Can't you just do search/Replace"? - Users who think data tables work like Excel sheets.

Other option is go the classic route and outsource to India :P
#97
Off the Record / Re: Israel-Hamas War 2023
Last post by Sophie Scholl - July 17, 2025, 02:39:01 PM
A lot of this...
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#98
Off the Record / Re: General issues
Last post by Josquius - July 17, 2025, 02:37:26 PM
So... Doom?
#99
Off the Record / Re: The Off Topic Topic
Last post by Valmy - July 17, 2025, 02:37:25 PM
Maybe they were just good friends? Can't a married man take a woman who is not his wife to a concert and panic when pointed out by the front man of the band they came to see and not fall under suspicion? What a cruel world we live in.
#100
Off the Record / Re: What does a TRUMP presiden...
Last post by Valmy - July 17, 2025, 02:32:47 PM

 :rolleyes: We're doomed.